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Neptunus	Posted - 2003.07.24 19:11:00 - [1] Edited by: Neptunus on 24/07/2003 20:24:34 Playboy Enterprises, Heff and the the Economic Warmongers There are many forms of warfare in EVE, but they all ultimately result in lost ISK to you or your corporation. I am here to tell you about Playboy Enterprises and their active dealings to take literally billions in lost revenue from many corporations of good (and bad) standing in the galaxy. Let me tell you Playboy EnterpriseÆs modus operandi, and this is something that is known in small circles and a scheme I am sure they will readily admit to: They buy blueprints then sell COUNTLESS copies at roughly the price of the product itself. By flooding the market with cheap BP copies, it allows corporations to build internally and not need to use the market at all. In other words, who would buy a cruiser when they can get the BP for just a bit more? Did you ever wonder why it is so hard to make money selling cruisers now? ItÆs because Playboy Enterprises flooded the market û with 2 results. 1)Corps that really want a lot of cruisers buy BPs from Playboy, taking away the most significant customer base. 2)There are so many producers of cruisers because of Playboy BP flooding that profit margins are in the tank. How much money has you or your corp lost because of the practices Playboy Enterprises? You know as well as I do that you are basically selling the minerals at close to cost in the form of a Moa or a Thorax. ItÆs not just cruisers of course û missiles, weapons, you name it. Now, Playboy Enterprises is in the battleship market. They have already left the cruiser market a wasteland and now it they are steadily destroying the battleship market, which is even more driven by industrialist corps and hard-working individualists. Remember, you may be buying a gun, but you are also shooting yourself in the foot. Ask the cruiser producers what their average profit per sale is. ItÆs hardly worth the time it takes to get together the minerals. The same thing will soon happen to battleship sales thanks to creeps like Heff and Playboy Enterprises that continue to cost the ECONOMY of EVE billions in lost revenue. Yes, this is ôlostö money. Those of you that understand economy know how money can simply evaporate. Yes, Playboy Enterprises makes a ôlittleö money in the sales of the BPs, but in so doing, they are eviscerating hundreds of millions in lost profits for the general population. So it is the height of stupidity and short-sightedness with which Heff runs that company. They are small-time scriveners, huddled in labs, making copies for pennies, hardly enriching themselves while steadily pulling money out of every industrialist in EVE. It is pitiful. I wholeheartedly recommend that all corporations that understand the basics of economics, production, and Intellectual Property dumping boycott Playboy Enterprises, or use this as an opportunity as a casus belli against their corporation. I know I am personally getting together a group of other industrialists who build battleships and we will hunt them if they ever stick their scrivener-gnarled fingers out of a space station. Contact me in game and I will share all intelligence with you on the matter.
Neptunus Minmatar Sebiestor tribe	Posted - 2003.07.24 19:11:00 - [2] Edited by: Neptunus on 24/07/2003 20:24:34 Playboy Enterprises, Heff and the the Economic Warmongers There are many forms of warfare in EVE, but they all ultimately result in lost ISK to you or your corporation. I am here to tell you about Playboy Enterprises and their active dealings to take literally billions in lost revenue from many corporations of good (and bad) standing in the galaxy. Let me tell you Playboy EnterpriseÆs modus operandi, and this is something that is known in small circles and a scheme I am sure they will readily admit to: They buy blueprints then sell COUNTLESS copies at roughly the price of the product itself. By flooding the market with cheap BP copies, it allows corporations to build internally and not need to use the market at all. In other words, who would buy a cruiser when they can get the BP for just a bit more? Did you ever wonder why it is so hard to make money selling cruisers now? ItÆs because Playboy Enterprises flooded the market û with 2 results. 1)Corps that really want a lot of cruisers buy BPs from Playboy, taking away the most significant customer base. 2)There are so many producers of cruisers because of Playboy BP flooding that profit margins are in the tank. How much money has you or your corp lost because of the practices Playboy Enterprises? You know as well as I do that you are basically selling the minerals at close to cost in the form of a Moa or a Thorax. ItÆs not just cruisers of course û missiles, weapons, you name it. Now, Playboy Enterprises is in the battleship market. They have already left the cruiser market a wasteland and now it they are steadily destroying the battleship market, which is even more driven by industrialist corps and hard-working individualists. Remember, you may be buying a gun, but you are also shooting yourself in the foot. Ask the cruiser producers what their average profit per sale is. ItÆs hardly worth the time it takes to get together the minerals. The same thing will soon happen to battleship sales thanks to creeps like Heff and Playboy Enterprises that continue to cost the ECONOMY of EVE billions in lost revenue. Yes, this is ôlostö money. Those of you that understand economy know how money can simply evaporate. Yes, Playboy Enterprises makes a ôlittleö money in the sales of the BPs, but in so doing, they are eviscerating hundreds of millions in lost profits for the general population. So it is the height of stupidity and short-sightedness with which Heff runs that company. They are small-time scriveners, huddled in labs, making copies for pennies, hardly enriching themselves while steadily pulling money out of every industrialist in EVE. It is pitiful. I wholeheartedly recommend that all corporations that understand the basics of economics, production, and Intellectual Property dumping boycott Playboy Enterprises, or use this as an opportunity as a casus belli against their corporation. I know I am personally getting together a group of other industrialists who build battleships and we will hunt them if they ever stick their scrivener-gnarled fingers out of a space station. Contact me in game and I will share all intelligence with you on the matter.
Neptunus	Posted - 2003.07.24 20:36:00 - [3] Quote: "Blueprints should be free" Dopey, you are perhaps the dumbest person I have ever seen on these boards, and that is saying a lot.
Neptunus Minmatar Sebiestor tribe	Posted - 2003.07.24 20:36:00 - [4] Quote: "Blueprints should be free" Dopey, you are perhaps the dumbest person I have ever seen on these boards, and that is saying a lot.
Neptunus	Posted - 2003.07.25 04:40:00 - [5] Good points Doctor X. It is clear to anyone what practically free bluepints does to the economy: 1) Makes everyone and their dog a ship producer (or missile, weapon, etc producer) 2) Drives prices down, keeping mineral prices very low. Miners should be selling at 2x NPC prices, but all miners are STILL basically making very low NPC wages. 3) Takes MOST customers away by allowing them to build for themselves at cost The only thing that is needed to become an industrialists is a factory slot (practically free), a BP (practically free, thanks to Playboy), and the Production Efficiency skill (only takes a few weeks and is a free startup skill). So, becoming an industrialist, in all other REAL economies is cost prohibitive. In the EVE economy, there are no barriers to entry, which hurts all industrialists and the miners they support.
Neptunus Minmatar Sebiestor tribe	Posted - 2003.07.25 04:40:00 - [6] Good points Doctor X. It is clear to anyone what practically free bluepints does to the economy: 1) Makes everyone and their dog a ship producer (or missile, weapon, etc producer) 2) Drives prices down, keeping mineral prices very low. Miners should be selling at 2x NPC prices, but all miners are STILL basically making very low NPC wages. 3) Takes MOST customers away by allowing them to build for themselves at cost The only thing that is needed to become an industrialists is a factory slot (practically free), a BP (practically free, thanks to Playboy), and the Production Efficiency skill (only takes a few weeks and is a free startup skill). So, becoming an industrialist, in all other REAL economies is cost prohibitive. In the EVE economy, there are no barriers to entry, which hurts all industrialists and the miners they support.
Neptunus	Posted - 2003.07.25 06:20:00 - [7] What the dev said (actually Hellmar is more than just a dev) is incorrect. Researching mineral efficiency is not the "deciding factor" that makes the original WAY better than the copy. You are referring to a quote that is grossly incorrect as your "way out" of this obvious transgression by Playboy. You and I both know that the BP copies that Playboy sells are either 100% identical or marginally different than the original that Playboy keeps. This completely invalidates Hellmar's statement, to which you so desperately hang and twist in the wind.
Neptunus Minmatar Sebiestor tribe	Posted - 2003.07.25 06:20:00 - [8] What the dev said (actually Hellmar is more than just a dev) is incorrect. Researching mineral efficiency is not the "deciding factor" that makes the original WAY better than the copy. You are referring to a quote that is grossly incorrect as your "way out" of this obvious transgression by Playboy. You and I both know that the BP copies that Playboy sells are either 100% identical or marginally different than the original that Playboy keeps. This completely invalidates Hellmar's statement, to which you so desperately hang and twist in the wind.
Neptunus	Posted - 2003.07.25 06:28:00 - [9] Lys - I just completely invalidated that quote. Playboy sells BP copies that are either 100% or marginally different than the original - so there is the original is NOT more valuable. People who use the copies to produce are making the exact same profit as people that produce from the originals. Now read that again, rinse and repeat. It is not uncommon for a CCP dev to be incorrect, as we all have seen time and time again.
Neptunus Minmatar Sebiestor tribe	Posted - 2003.07.25 06:28:00 - [10] Lys - I just completely invalidated that quote. Playboy sells BP copies that are either 100% or marginally different than the original - so there is the original is NOT more valuable. People who use the copies to produce are making the exact same profit as people that produce from the originals. Now read that again, rinse and repeat. It is not uncommon for a CCP dev to be incorrect, as we all have seen time and time again.

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