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Finger Puppet
D00M.
Northern Coalition.
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Posted - 2013.03.19 21:38:00 -
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So I competed with 300 other pod Pilots to race 78 jumps in Tuskers DeathRace. Great event, and I'm here today to ask you opinion on whether or not I should have been declared the winner.
After 3 waypoints and a lot of jumps our final winning destination was announced as a CAN anchored 250 from a 0.0 entrance into Nullsec. I got ahead of the pack because the second to final destination was down a pipe and I knew the last destination would be back down the pipe so I went ahead of most everyone else.
When I was 4 jumps out another pod pilot caught up, his ship was faster and that was fine because I knew we would be jumping into a bubbled gate camp and I didn't want to be the first. My new friend jumped. I followed about 5 seconds after. As planned he decloaked first and started burning, I knew he would pull aggro and distract the gang from myself so I decloaked too and burned strait out of the bubbles inline to a celestial. It worked, he popped and I warped in low shields. I knew I had very little time to get to the finish but there were no celestials back near the gate to use as a warp in so I docked up to repair my shields and warped to the gate at zero.
I landed straight on top of their gang and was 175 from the CAN which also had a bunch of un-anchored bubbles and one inty on it. I started burning and overloaded everything! It was fun because I was also listening to their live stream and could hear them calling me primary and trying to lock me down. I also heard them lose lock and lose hope in killing me as I raced my burning A$$ at almost 7k ms! I was suddenly in structure! Then relief as I overshot the can and started to re-approach then POP! and seconds after I'm back in station.
Now to me I won, but on comms I could hear them saying I burned to the wrong can and didn't make it. I only saw one can and one group of bubbles! The adrenaline coursing through my veins turned cold as I was told I indeed did not win, and that I was popped 7k from the ACTUAL CAN!! I guess I had to be 2.5k GF?
Anyway here is a link to my loss, a link to their announcement blog and a link to their camera showing it happen!
http://tuskersffa.rvbganked.co.uk/index.php/kill_detail/3004/
http://eveoganda.blogspot.ca/2013/03/deathrace-results.html#idc-container
http://www.twitch.tv/suleiman_shouaa/b/378530260
Do you think I should have won? |
Moneta Curran
Lunar Industries Ltd
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Posted - 2013.03.19 21:42:00 -
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I believe you should have won. |
mechtech
Ice Liberation Army
280
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Posted - 2013.03.19 21:42:00 -
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Now I didn't follow the event, but it would seem pretty self-explanatory to require the finisher to physically take an item out of the winner can. Was it not structured that way? |
Finger Puppet
D00M.
Northern Coalition.
3
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Posted - 2013.03.19 21:45:00 -
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mechtech wrote:Now I didn't follow the event, but it would seem pretty self-explanatory to require the finisher to physically take an item out of the winner can. Was it not structured that way?
No it was not, you only had to make it there. |
Djana Libra
The Black Ops
black core alliance
100
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Posted - 2013.03.19 21:55:00 -
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well yeah put 1 item in the can the winner has to take, then if he gets blown up its on the killmail |
Zeko Rena
ENCOM Industries
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Posted - 2013.03.19 21:55:00 -
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mechtech wrote:Now I didn't follow the event, but it would seem pretty self-explanatory to require the finisher to physically take an item out of the winner can. Was it not structured that way?
If you read that second link it says
"The goal of the racers was to jump in and burn to the can without exploding."
Which sounds like the OP did.
But this is EVE Online, and thus I will never take part in any kind of event because like everything in EVE, it is unlikely to be run honestly 
Unless cans of dead pilots were left after the wrecks were salvaged, but that would be a bit stupid and make it extremely confusing |
Rebecha Pucontis
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
47
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Posted - 2013.03.19 22:06:00 -
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Reading this story really emphasises how badly null sec is broken where the null bears are so bored they feel the need to organise these races to entertain themselves. I signed up to play eve for the grim battles, wars, and world domination, not care bear racing games. |
Sidrat Flush
The Praxis Initiative
Gentlemen's Agreement
130
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Posted - 2013.03.19 22:17:00 -
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Rebecha Pucontis wrote:Reading this story really emphasises how badly null sec is broken where the null bears are so bored they feel the need to organise these races to entertain themselves. I signed up to play eve for the grim battles, wars, and world domination, not care bear racing games.
Care bear racing versus ships with guns and bubbles?
Hmm, perhaps the term has a different connotation but to me it means "Risk Averse" - flying a ship through really risky space isn't something a Care bear would do (probably because they're afk mining in empire).
Anyway, if there are no wars for you go and make em, it shouldn't be too hard.
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Darek Castigatus
Immortalis Inc.
Shadow Cartel
342
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Posted - 2013.03.19 22:19:00 -
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Rebecha Pucontis wrote:Reading this story really emphasises how badly null sec is broken where the null bears are so bored they feel the need to organise these races to entertain themselves. I signed up to play eve for the grim battles, wars, and world domination, not care bear racing games.
Umm, you do realise The Tuskers have jack **** to do with null sec apart from occasionally shooting bits of it in the face right??
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Rebecha Pucontis
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
47
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Posted - 2013.03.19 22:30:00 -
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The point is that people are organising these races instead of fighting wars. I think that is party due to broken null sec mechanics as null bears simply want to maintain the status quo and low secers who want to expand their empire into null sec have little chance enless they sell their souls to a null alliance. So people end up organising things like this instead. |
Jonah Gravenstein
Khalkotauroi Defence Labs
6654
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Posted - 2013.03.19 22:34:00 -
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Rebecha Pucontis wrote:Reading this story really emphasises how badly null sec is broken where the null bears are so bored they feel the need to organise these races to entertain themselves. I signed up to play eve for the grim battles, wars, and world domination, not care bear racing games.
It's about having fun, and providing content for others.
Eve in a nutshell, it's you vs the universe, and every machiavellian space bastard in it. |
Xen Solarus
Inner 5phere
312
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Posted - 2013.03.19 23:34:00 -
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Sounds like you got screwed out of the win! 
Sounds like EvE to me! 
Post with your main, like a BOSS! |
Ur235
Moon In Scorpio
The Kadeshi
93
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Posted - 2013.03.19 23:56:00 -
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Its Tuskers mate I have had 2 ransoms a few years ago not honored by these guys, no experience with them after that but I would never trust them anyways. Looks like they screwed you over aswell, its eve live and learn I guess
hmm |
L'ouris
24th Imperial Crusade
Amarr Empire
61
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Posted - 2013.03.20 00:09:00 -
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Ur235 wrote:Its Tuskers mate I have had 2 ransoms a few years ago not honored by these guys, no experience with them after that but I would never trust them anyways. Looks like they screwed you over aswell, its eve live and learn I guess
I find that hard to believe from the tucker org. If this was C&P I'd demand logs if you made a claim such as this. Every one I've come across has done well by their "brand" in regards to their corp code. |
La Nariz
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
819
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Posted - 2013.03.20 00:36:00 -
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Rebecha Pucontis wrote:Reading this story really emphasises how badly null sec is broken where the null bears are so bored they feel the need to organise these races to entertain themselves. I signed up to play eve for the grim battles, wars, and world domination, not care bear racing games.
So providing unique content for players such as the death race is an example of how nullsec is broken? Just because it isn't given to you on a silver platter by npc does not mean its broken. If you want what you signed up for ask CCP to fix the game instead of begging for your mining barge to be buffed repeatedly because of "them dirty gankers."
This post was loving crafted by a member of the Official GoonWaffe recruitment team. |
Fredfredbug4
The Scope
Gallente Federation
547
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Posted - 2013.03.20 00:42:00 -
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Rebecha Pucontis wrote:The point is that people are organising these races instead of fighting wars. I think that is party due to broken null sec mechanics as null bears simply want to maintain the status quo and low secers who want to expand their empire into null sec have little chance enless they sell their souls to a null alliance. So people end up organising things like this instead.
Awww, did you get last place or something?
It's suppose to be fun, and it looks like the people who organized it, watched it, and took part in it had fun.
EVE is a game, games are about having fun.
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DarthNefarius
Minmatar Heavy Industries
723
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Posted - 2013.03.20 00:47:00 -
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/popcorn
Ripard Teg-á for CSM 8 |
Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
1160
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Posted - 2013.03.20 01:04:00 -
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Rebecha Pucontis wrote:Reading this story really emphasises how badly null sec is broken where the null bears are so bored they feel the need to organise these races to entertain themselves. I signed up to play eve for the grim battles, wars, and world domination, not care bear racing games.
See: "Bread and Circuses"
The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper 'no.' |
Beekeeper Bob
Beekeepers Anonymous
514
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Posted - 2013.03.20 06:46:00 -
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Welcome to EvE?
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Stubnitz
Riot0us
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Posted - 2013.03.20 07:27:00 -
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Ur235 wrote:Its Tuskers mate I have had 2 ransoms a few years ago not honored by these guys, no experience with them after that but I would never trust them anyways. Looks like they screwed you over aswell, its eve live and learn I guess
Doubt it tbh.
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Djana Libra
The Black Ops
Black Core Alliance
103
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Posted - 2013.03.20 07:30:00 -
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yeah if someone running a marathon gets shot down 7 meters in front of the finish he wont win either. so no ur not screwed out, you just didnt make it. |
Tom Gerard
Red Federation
RvB - RED Federation
973
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Posted - 2013.03.20 09:39:00 -
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ITT: EVE is unfair
One of the oldest mission players in EVE designed a chart that explains stat priority in regards to mission running, compared Alpha, DPS, Ship Speed and Sig Radius and scores them.
http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m24dbrfuWn1r86ax8o1_1280.jpg |
Cable Udan
The Tuskers
147
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Posted - 2013.03.20 11:04:00 -
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Ur235 wrote:Its Tuskers mate I have had 2 ransoms a few years ago not honored by these guys, no experience with them after that but I would never trust them anyways. Looks like they screwed you over aswell, its eve live and learn I guess
Proof or it didn't happen. The Tuskers heirarchy have a strong opposition to corp members not honouring ransoms so I'd wager you just made that up. Also, considering the calibre of pilots that the Tuskers recruit and the fact that this is the first allegation of a dishonoured Tusker ransom (that I've ever heard of at least) I'm willing to bet that you just made that up. Feel free to prove me wrong though by linking lossmails and chatlogs (which I'm sure have conveniently been lost in time or you've changed PCs or formatted your OS or something ;) )
Finger Puppet: I wasn't at the Death Race due to RL commitments so I can't say either way what happened, but from what I understand you were exploded 7-9km from the finish can so didn't... win?
- Cable
http://chasingtheblueflash.blogspot.com/
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I Love Boobies
All Hail Boobies
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Posted - 2013.03.20 11:17:00 -
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I didn't follow the event, so I don't know about how things went at the end. Just wanted to say there might have been some kind of lag between your ship exploding and it showing you where you actually were. I have had that happen in the past, where I thought I was in one place when my ship exploded as I was going at high speed, but then seen on replays from others where I wasn't where I actually thought I was when I exploded. Anyway, in my opinion, just take the fun you had and move on.
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Nova Satar
Rekall Incorporated
Sinewave Alliance
55
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Posted - 2013.03.20 11:25:00 -
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Seems like you won to me. Do the organisers play EVE? Surely they know ships will overshoot the cans?
It seems kind of a **** idea to make people go all that way and then when they reach the can they just get instapopped by a bunch of people sitting there waiting and told they havent won lol.
Who ended up winning? and how? |
Nova Satar
Rekall Incorporated
Sinewave Alliance
55
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Posted - 2013.03.20 11:26:00 -
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Djana Libra wrote:yeah if someone running a marathon gets shot down 7 meters in front of the finish he wont win either. so no ur not screwed out, you just didnt make it.
but what about if he crosses the line and gets shot down 7 meters after? |
Djana Libra
The Black Ops
Black Core Alliance
103
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Posted - 2013.03.20 11:27:00 -
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Nova Satar wrote:Djana Libra wrote:yeah if someone running a marathon gets shot down 7 meters in front of the finish he wont win either. so no ur not screwed out, you just didnt make it. but what about if he crosses the line and gets shot down 7 meters after?
well yeah but he didn't, if he walks behind the finish on a road to the left he still wont have won |
Nova Satar
Rekall Incorporated
Sinewave Alliance
55
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Posted - 2013.03.20 11:29:00 -
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Djana Libra wrote:Nova Satar wrote:Djana Libra wrote:yeah if someone running a marathon gets shot down 7 meters in front of the finish he wont win either. so no ur not screwed out, you just didnt make it. but what about if he crosses the line and gets shot down 7 meters after? well yeah but he didn't, if he walks behind the finish on a road to the left he still wont have won
lol wtf? it's all in the video. The guy burns to the can, reaches it, overshoots and comes back then dies
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War Kitten
Panda McLegion
1778
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Posted - 2013.03.20 11:41:00 -
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From the rules wrote:Finish Order - All decisions regarding the final order of participants will be determined by The Tuskers and posted as soon as possible.
Finger Puppet wrote:... on comms I could hear them saying I burned to the wrong can and didn't make it.
...
Do you think I should have won?
Sounds like no, you didn't win.
I find that without a good mob to provide one for them, most people would have no mentality at all. |
Cable Udan
The Tuskers
147
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Posted - 2013.03.20 11:45:00 -
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Just read the thread on the Deathrace on our forums and from ze video evidence you burnt towards the wrong can.
Unlucky.
http://chasingtheblueflash.blogspot.com/
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