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DarthNefarius
Minmatar Heavy Industries
754
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Posted - 2013.03.22 15:26:00 -
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Last I heard 998 in system & I can't get in 
Ripard Teg-á for CSM 8 |
MeBiatch
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
872
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Posted - 2013.03.22 15:27:00 -
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i too am lazy and dont use the search button...
Ok, so you've corrected my spelling,do you care to make a valid point?
-áThere are no stupid Questions... just stupid people... |
silens vesica
Corsair Cartel
1094
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Posted - 2013.03.22 15:28:00 -
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DarthNefarius wrote:Last I heard 998 in system & I can't get in
Seems to be true.
TiDi will be less of a factor. Many folks will be queued-up at gates. Time to break out the disco-gank fleet.
Tell someone you love them today, because life is short. But scream it at them in Esperanto, because life is also terrifying and confusing.
Malcanis for CSM8 |
Vincent Athena
V.I.C.E.
1718
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Posted - 2013.03.22 15:31:00 -
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When the population is below the cap for 10 seconds the gates open. When its above cap for 10 seconds the gates close. The result is the population slowly drops until its below cap, then shoots up as the gates open and a horde of people get in. Then the gates close and the cycle repeats.
Now if you logged in at 1200 eve time and went to Luminaire you would have had no issue getting in. Then just wait until it all starts.
http://vincentoneve.wordpress.com/ |
DarthNefarius
Minmatar Heavy Industries
754
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Posted - 2013.03.22 15:35:00 -
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Vincent Athena wrote:When the population is below the cap for 10 seconds the gates open. When its above cap for 10 seconds the gates close. The result is the population slowly drops until its below cap, then shoots up as the gates open and a horde of people get in. Then the gates close and the cycle repeats.
Now if you logged in at 1200 eve time and went to Luminaire you would have had no issue getting in. Then just wait until it all starts.
So if you didn't log in right after DT then go to sleep & come back you are screwed out of Luminaire? 
Are 'reinforced' NULL SEC systems also capped at 1000?
Ripard Teg-á for CSM 8 |
Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
2800
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Posted - 2013.03.22 15:37:00 -
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System population caps are nothing new, and therefore not news, and therefore NOT threadworthy.
Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings? |
DarthNefarius
Minmatar Heavy Industries
754
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Posted - 2013.03.22 15:43:00 -
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Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:System population caps are nothing new, and therefore not news, and therefore NOT threadworthy.
What is the typical system CAP for a NULL SEC fleet battle?
Jita is 2500 correct?
Ripard Teg-á for CSM 8 |
Abrazzar
Vardaugas Family
1155
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Posted - 2013.03.22 15:44:00 -
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I just spent five minutes clicking jump until I got in. Lucky me, I guess.
Mining Overhaul
Nothing changed since 2008. |
Stray Bullets
Perkone
Caldari State
26
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Posted - 2013.03.22 15:45:00 -
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DarthNefarius wrote:Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:System population caps are nothing new, and therefore not news, and therefore NOT threadworthy. What is the typical system CAP for a NULL SEC fleet battle? Jita is 2500 correct?
They don't want TiDi ... it's bad press ;) Just sit and wait like every other scrub :) |
KIller Wabbit
The Scope
Gallente Federation
336
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Posted - 2013.03.22 15:50:00 -
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DarthNefarius wrote:Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:System population caps are nothing new, and therefore not news, and therefore NOT threadworthy. What is the typical system CAP for a NULL SEC fleet battle? Jita is 2500 correct?
They don't cap fight systems in null.
They have been keeping Jita below 2100 as of late.
GM's/Dev's don't like to play under TiDi apparently.
CCP Punkturis-á "I want to get in on the goodposter circle jerk!"
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Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
1174
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Posted - 2013.03.22 15:53:00 -
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You can occupy yourself whilst you wait with this:
http://garyc.me/bring/
The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper 'no.' |
Tyraeil Starblade
Eleutherian Guard
Villore Accords
35
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Posted - 2013.03.22 15:56:00 -
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I can't log into Luminaire either... I hope they let you in that way if pop is small enough yuh. |
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
3809
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Posted - 2013.03.22 15:58:00 -
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KIller Wabbit wrote:DarthNefarius wrote:Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:System population caps are nothing new, and therefore not news, and therefore NOT threadworthy. What is the typical system CAP for a NULL SEC fleet battle? Jita is 2500 correct? They don't cap fight systems in null. They have been keeping Jita below 2100 as of late. GM's/Dev's don't like to play under TiDi apparently.
Keep in mind also that Jita's dedicated node is on beefed up hardware compared to everywhere else.
To carve a successful niche for yourself in EVE you need to be able to out sell, out produce, out fight,-á out run, or out wit your competitors.
If you can do none of the above, your only option is to complain on the forums that somehow you are at a disadvantage using the exact same tool set-áas the rest of the player base. |
silens vesica
Corsair Cartel
1095
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Posted - 2013.03.22 15:59:00 -
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DarthNefarius wrote:Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:System population caps are nothing new, and therefore not news, and therefore NOT threadworthy. What is the typical system CAP for a NULL SEC fleet battle? Jita is 2500 correct? Jita is a special case, residing an a specifically-re-enforced node. There are other re-enforced nodes available, but nothing so beefy as Jita.
Edit:
Whups. Ranger 1 was there before me.
Tell someone you love them today, because life is short. But scream it at them in Esperanto, because life is also terrifying and confusing.
Malcanis for CSM8 |
Katran Luftschreck
Royal Ammatar Engineering Corps
1180
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Posted - 2013.03.22 16:01:00 -
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KIller Wabbit wrote:GM's/Dev's don't like to play under TiDi apparently.
Who says they do?
Live Events are neither. |
Xenuria
Marcabian 5th Invasion Fleet
746
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Posted - 2013.03.22 16:02:00 -
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I don't see how this will be any different from the many other live events.
Major alliances will systematically gank anybody that isn't blue and anybody who isn't blue won't be able to participate.
CSM 8 Candidate
Philanthropist
Polymath
Savant
Hero |
Joelleaveek
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
203
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Posted - 2013.03.22 16:02:00 -
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Great live event, very well planned it seems. |
silens vesica
Corsair Cartel
1096
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Posted - 2013.03.22 16:07:00 -
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Xenuria wrote:I don't see how this will be any different from the many other live events.
Major alliances will systematically gank anybody that isn't blue and anybody who isn't blue won't be able to participate.
Based on what I saw this morning, Not so.
This isn't Nul, the fleets are already formed up and are being led professionally by capable FCs. Other fleets may form, but this is still rather organized.
Tell someone you love them today, because life is short. But scream it at them in Esperanto, because life is also terrifying and confusing.
Malcanis for CSM8 |
DarthNefarius
Minmatar Heavy Industries
754
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Posted - 2013.03.22 16:10:00 -
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Joelleaveek wrote:Great live event, very well planned it seems.
You forgot the /sarcasm emote 
Ripard Teg-á for CSM 8 |
Na Und
Galactronics
8
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Posted - 2013.03.22 16:15:00 -
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Is it easier to log in from the splash page (I'm there already), or be diverted to an adjoining system and try the gate? |
Primary Me
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
51
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Posted - 2013.03.22 16:15:00 -
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DarthNefarius wrote:Last I heard 998 in system & I can't get in
Perhaps the faction police have read your forum posts?
James 315 for CSM 8. A voice for hi-sec, a voice for reason. |
Stray Bullets
Perkone
Caldari State
27
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Posted - 2013.03.22 16:19:00 -
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Na Und wrote:Is it easier to log in from the splash page (I'm there already), or be diverted to an adjoining system and try the gate?
It's actually the same. The system is already capped out (1k players in system) so you'll need to be lucky and getting a spot if/when it drops from 1k. Keep in mind there's probably a few hundred like you, wanting to login into sytem directly and there's at least 300/500 more in game, spamming the gates. So ... do you feel lucky? 
Last I saw, the Mies gate had about 180 guys. Algogille had about 500 on local, about 400 on the gate.
Just spam it and you may get lucky. I've got better things to do with my time. |
Na Und
Galactronics
8
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Posted - 2013.03.22 16:22:00 -
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My bar has WiFi, so I'll just try occasionally. |
silens vesica
Corsair Cartel
1096
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Posted - 2013.03.22 16:22:00 -
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Stray Bullets wrote:
Last I saw, the Mies gate had about 180 guys. Algogille had about 500 on local, about 400 on the gate.
We really need a suicide disco fleet just abuot now...
Tell someone you love them today, because life is short. But scream it at them in Esperanto, because life is also terrifying and confusing.
Malcanis for CSM8 |
No More Heroes
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
2278
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Posted - 2013.03.22 16:23:00 -
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Welp, glad I didnt journey there
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Vincent Athena
V.I.C.E.
1718
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Posted - 2013.03.22 16:24:00 -
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CCP said they will not be pushing up the cap until fighting starts. They want to see the effect on the server with fighting, not just ships sitting in space. (Or docked, like Jita. The load per player docked is less than one in space, which is less than one in a big fur ball fighting).
Also, it is a reinforced node, just like Jita has.
http://vincentoneve.wordpress.com/ |
Stray Bullets
Perkone
Caldari State
28
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Posted - 2013.03.22 16:28:00 -
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Vincent Athena wrote:CCP said they will not be pushing up the cap until fighting starts. They want to see the effect on the server with fighting, not just ships sitting in space. (Or docked, like Jita. The load per player docked is less than one in space, which is less than one in a big fur ball fighting).
Also, it is a reinforced node, just like Jita has.
So in a sense, welcome to mass testing on TQ! :) If a unreinforced node handled the asakai battle (2500+), this one can surely handle 2k in better shape. It's a mass test / marketing stunt :| |
silens vesica
Corsair Cartel
1096
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Posted - 2013.03.22 16:31:00 -
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Vincent Athena wrote:CCP said they will not be pushing up the cap until fighting starts. They want to see the effect on the server with fighting, not just ships sitting in space. (Or docked, like Jita. The load per player docked is less than one in space, which is less than one in a big fur ball fighting).
Also, it is a reinforced node, just like Jita has. Are the spare re-enforced nodes as beefy as Jita? I thought Jita was in a class of ts own.
Good news, though - this improves my chances of getting a decent bite at things, later.
Tell someone you love them today, because life is short. But scream it at them in Esperanto, because life is also terrifying and confusing.
Malcanis for CSM8 |
Vincent Athena
V.I.C.E.
1719
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Posted - 2013.03.22 16:44:00 -
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silens vesica wrote:Vincent Athena wrote:CCP said they will not be pushing up the cap until fighting starts. They want to see the effect on the server with fighting, not just ships sitting in space. (Or docked, like Jita. The load per player docked is less than one in space, which is less than one in a big fur ball fighting).
Also, it is a reinforced node, just like Jita has. Are the spare re-enforced nodes as beefy as Jita? I thought Jita was in a class of ts own. Good news, though - this improves my chances of getting a decent bite at things, later.
That I'm not sure. Its been awhile, so they could have gotten more units of that super hardware. Or just use the Jita node for the day, and set the Jita cap down. All I know for sure is Luminaire is on a reinforced node.
It will be interesting to see how far the population can grow, and if they allow TiDi to get large.
http://vincentoneve.wordpress.com/ |
Pak Narhoo
Splinter Foundation
919
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Posted - 2013.03.22 17:02:00 -
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Been in all day. On my other main since this guy has barely any pew pew skills.
Went into the 'the big finger' fleet pro Gallente of course, and we just jumped in around6 for 17.00 and, yeah, the transgaming client crashes.
./o\ |
RaTTuS
BIG
Everywhere - Everything
240
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Posted - 2013.03.22 17:11:00 -
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http://www.twitch.tv/ccp/new
says 1600 ATM
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Beekeeper Bob
Beekeepers Anonymous
524
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Posted - 2013.03.22 17:28:00 -
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Well played CCP, lets have a live event, that NO ONE CAN COME TOO!
I move ships up there, dock in station, can't log into Luminaire.
Well, at least you've proved even more incompetent than usual.
Once again I have to wonder why I keep any accounts open.
The single biggest danger to EVE is the proliferation of ALTS! Kill an alt today!
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Feyd Rautha Harkonnen
Lords.Of.Midnight
82
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Posted - 2013.03.22 17:44:00 -
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Vincent Athena wrote:CCP said they will not be pushing up the cap until fighting starts. They want to see the effect on the server with fighting, not just ships sitting in space. (Or docked, like Jita. The load per player docked is less than one in space, which is less than one in a big fur ball fighting).
Also, it is a reinforced node, just like Jita has.
I have this crazy dream, that the infrastructure guys in CCP go hat in hand to the purse-holders (and dev team) and make them realize they really need to implement a dynamic resource allocating architecture from the kernal up, that can dynamically respond to hot spots with more horsepower, without manually pre-re-enforcing nodes, etc etc.
If you are really serious about this 'single sandbox' concept (and not multiple shards), you need to take dynamic resource allocation more seriously than lipstick-on-a-pig TiDi, 24 notification on re-enforce nodes & other workarounds...IMHO. What happens when the gaming media for example catch wind of the fact the EVE single-shard sandbox is vaporware, and that as soon as a big battle ensues TiDi and re-enforce node fail manifests?
I can see the counter-ad's now from WoW or others. "Yeah we are multi-shard, but at least your character wont freeze on you mid battle...". Ouch.
http://evedarklord.blogspot.ca |
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
2511
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Posted - 2013.03.22 17:46:00 -
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Funny this restriction on a 1.0 system... reading the threads around here, you'd think that every high sec system is jam-packed with scared carebears 23/7 and every highsec note would be permebeefed to handle thousands of players at once.
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silens vesica
Corsair Cartel
1097
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Posted - 2013.03.22 17:48:00 -
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Feyd Rautha Harkonnen wrote: What happens when the gaming media for example catch wind of the fact the EVE single-shard sandbox is vaporware, and that as soon as a big battle ensues TiDi and re-enforce node fail manifests?
You seem to have not been watching the news recently. There was a huge battle, completely unscripted, US$22K worth of destroyed ships... And TiDi did its thing. The completely un-reenforced node held the load, even as half the galaxy was streaming towards the fight.
Do try to keep up, hm-kay?
Tell someone you love them today, because life is short. But scream it at them in Esperanto, because life is also terrifying and confusing.
Malcanis for CSM8 |
DarthNefarius
Minmatar Heavy Industries
757
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Posted - 2013.03.22 17:54:00 -
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arg I wasted 3-4 hours moving ships into Luminaire & now wasted 2 hours trying to log my main into it
CCP hates USTZ
Ripard Teg-á for CSM 8 |
Primary This Rifter
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
17
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Posted - 2013.03.22 18:38:00 -
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Your client has waited 5 minutes for a remote call to complete.
This could mean that the server is very loaded.
Please be patient, chances are that the call will complete eventually but depending on the load it might be considerable time.
Click here to see the remote call debug viewer
Yes, I'm an alt. Congratulations. |
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
2511
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Posted - 2013.03.22 18:40:00 -
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"One does not simply jump into Luminaire". Where's Boromir when you need him?  |
Mehashi 'Kho
Idiot with a gun
66
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Posted - 2013.03.22 18:49:00 -
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Spent the last couple of days looking forward to this, never managed to get my alt in despite trying all afternoon. I'm sure CCP tried their best but this has been incredibly disappointing :(
Asakai had more with no notice, Jita has more every day, I understand the hardware has limitations but it just feels like you set the arbitrary population limit way too low given the amount of promotion and hype for the event and the inevitable amount of people who would be interested in it. There were well over a thousand people in the surrounding systems who spent hours trying to get in. I don't imagine many of them leaving without feeling bummed out.
On the plus side, yay gallente. |
Jace Errata
Ghosts That Linger
385
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Posted - 2013.03.22 19:07:00 -
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silens vesica wrote:Feyd Rautha Harkonnen wrote: What happens when the gaming media for example catch wind of the fact the EVE single-shard sandbox is vaporware, and that as soon as a big battle ensues TiDi and re-enforce node fail manifests? You seem to have not been watching the news recently. There was a huge battle, completely unscripted, US$22K worth of destroyed ships... And TiDi did its thing. The completely un-reenforced node held the load, even as half the galaxy was streaming towards the fight. Do try to keep up, hm-kay?
Pity that didn't happen today for the Caldari-Gallente War event of the decade.
Stealth OST puns and blatant lies since 2009
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Primary This Rifter
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
17
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Posted - 2013.03.22 19:23:00 -
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silens vesica wrote:And TiDi did its thing. The completely un-reenforced node held the load, even as half the galaxy was streaming towards the fight.
It's cute that people say "TIDI is working!" when it takes 5+ minutes to activate a module which sometimes completely fails.
Yes, I'm an alt. Congratulations. |
silens vesica
Corsair Cartel
1098
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Posted - 2013.03.22 20:13:00 -
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Primary This Rifter wrote:silens vesica wrote:And TiDi did its thing. The completely un-reenforced node held the load, even as half the galaxy was streaming towards the fight. It's cute that people say "TIDI is working!" when it takes 5+ minutes to activate a module which sometimes completely fails.
TiDi at its most extreme. Still a VAST amount superior and more functional than the old days of 'black screem for an hour, then wake up in a blank clone.'
So cute when people have no idea what the alternative could be and was.
You want less TiDi, stay in your home system. Me, I'm not going to kick.
Tell someone you love them today, because life is short. But scream it at them in Esperanto, because life is also terrifying and confusing.
Malcanis for CSM8 |
Primary This Rifter
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
17
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Posted - 2013.03.22 20:51:00 -
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silens vesica wrote:Primary This Rifter wrote:silens vesica wrote:And TiDi did its thing. The completely un-reenforced node held the load, even as half the galaxy was streaming towards the fight. It's cute that people say "TIDI is working!" when it takes 5+ minutes to activate a module which sometimes completely fails. TiDi at its most extreme. Still a VAST amount superior and more functional than the old days of 'black screen for an hour, then wake up in a blank clone.' So cute when weeks-old forum alts have no idea what the alternative could be and was.
I was in Asakai. There were more people in system on an unreinforced node and yet it was just as bad as today with a population cap and previous node reinforcement.
Yeah, it's better than black screen, but not my much. It's not something to champion like you seem to think it is.
Yes, I'm an alt. Congratulations. |
DarthNefarius
Minmatar Heavy Industries
758
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Posted - 2013.03.22 21:16:00 -
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Looks like they were able to up the CAP to 1700 \o/
Ripard Teg-á for CSM 8 |
Alayna Le'line
National Liberation Force
Nomads.
78
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Posted - 2013.03.22 21:36:00 -
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DarthNefarius wrote:Looks like they were able to up the CAP to 1700 \o/
Most I've seen at a single moment ik Luminaire today was 2060 which was at 18% TiDi. |
KIller Wabbit
The Scope
Gallente Federation
339
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Posted - 2013.03.22 21:58:00 -
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Primary This Rifter wrote:silens vesica wrote:Primary This Rifter wrote:silens vesica wrote:And TiDi did its thing. The completely un-reenforced node held the load, even as half the galaxy was streaming towards the fight. It's cute that people say "TIDI is working!" when it takes 5+ minutes to activate a module which sometimes completely fails. TiDi at its most extreme. Still a VAST amount superior and more functional than the old days of 'black screen for an hour, then wake up in a blank clone.' So cute when weeks-old forum alts have no idea what the alternative could be and was. I was in Asakai. There were more people in system on an unreinforced node and yet it was just as bad as today with a population cap and previous node reinforcement. Yeah, it's better than black screen, but not my much. It's not something to champion like you seem to think it is.
I was in Asakai as well - from the very beginning of the escalation. Asakai was about 5 times worse than today. It took half an hour to warp from the main battle to the station in Asakai. Today in Luminaire it took about 5 or so minutes. Module clicks could actually be controlled today once you got the hang of it. Asakai was a dice roll. :) So for 2K people Luminaire went pretty well with TiDi. Not so well for the other 2 to 3K people stuck outside the system. Also - this was out of prime login period for EVE, an hour or two later and things would have been even worse for those outside.
CCP Punkturis-á "I want to get in on the goodposter circle jerk!"
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