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La Nariz
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2013.03.24 03:01:00 -
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I think the term came from a moron but I can't confirm it. I think character is a better description. This post was loving crafted by a member of the Official GoonWaffe recruitment team. |

Tesal
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Posted - 2013.03.24 03:24:00 -
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La Nariz wrote:I think the term came from a moron but I can't confirm it. I think character is a better description. This post was loving crafted by a member of the Goon recruiting team.
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Apocryphal Noise
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
19
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Posted - 2013.03.24 04:03:00 -
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Eli Green wrote:Lugia3 wrote:Where did the EvE Term "Toon", short for character, come from? I see a lot of people don't like it. google is your friend :D
That led me back to this thread. Checkmate. |

Sharon Anne
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.03.24 07:30:00 -
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I thought I read toot. n\m  |

Jill Xelitras
Xeltec services Russian International Allegiance
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Posted - 2013.03.24 11:09:00 -
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It comes from the ancient greek word "kharaktun" which had the meaning of dress-up doll appealing to kids.
In latin it was later divided to "character" and "toon", which respectively denoted dolls for boys and dolls for girls.
I prefer avatar myself. It's from a movie by James Cameron, where people incarnate some 3D animated intelligent life-form.
Jill.
EVE Racing (resuscitation efforts ongoing) https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=215860&find=unread |

Din Chao
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Posted - 2013.03.24 11:30:00 -
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ISD Libertina wrote:The term 'toon' got to to be as widespread and accepted within EvE when a second influx of players appeared from StarWars Galaxies, bringing with them their terminology for characters to play with. We definitely used the term on SWG. I think that's where I first heard it. |

Disastro
Wrecking Shots Black Legion.
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Posted - 2013.03.24 11:40:00 -
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Andr Katelo wrote:I believe it became popular with WoW, its car toony graphics might have had something to do with it.  For the sophisticated gentlemen here, those who braved the MMO market before WoW, the term char (short for character) seems much more familiar, appropriate and, as some might claim, less gay.
The term is definitely pre wow. We used that term in everquest years ago. It is probably pre everquest too. Earlier MMOs often had cartoonish graphics. In everquest it was not unusual for the women in game (and yes there were actually real females who played the game) to pick their armor and equipment based upon the color coordination they had in mind for their "toon" instead of the statistics given by the piece of equipment "oh these pink boots go well with my wizard's robe!" |

HVAC Repairman
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2013.03.24 12:29:00 -
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anime is cartoons
cartoons are for kids Follow me on twitter |

Xen Solarus
Inner 5phere
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Posted - 2013.03.24 15:01:00 -
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Eli Green wrote:Lugia3 wrote:Where did the EvE Term "Toon", short for character, come from? I see a lot of people don't like it. google is your friend :D
I find it hilarious that your link to google (you obviously couldn't be bothered to "actually" google for the answer yourself) gets the top hit for this very thread. The others are also very speculative to the origins of the word Toon as well, meaning this isn't something you can just google and get a definitive answer for.
Being that Toon was definately not used "back in the day", its almost certainly something that has been imported from other games. Where it first started though, is anyone's guess. Post with your main, like a BOSS! |

Domina Trix
McKNOBBLER DRINKING CLAN
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Posted - 2013.03.24 15:27:00 -
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Jill Xelitras wrote:It comes from the ancient greek word "kharaktun" which had the meaning of dress-up doll appealing to kids.
In latin it was later divided to "character" and "toon", which respectively denoted dolls for boys and dolls for girls.
I prefer avatar myself. It's from a movie by James Cameron, where people incarnate some 3D animated intelligent life-form.
Jill.
The term Avatar to describe a character controlled by someone else was around way before that movie, why do you think he called it "Avatar" in the first place?
Two of the defining characteristics of a carebear are wanting other players to play the way the carebear wants and whining on the forums for the game to change when they don't. Yet I see more threads on these forums from gankers than I do miners whining about wanting the game changed to suit them. |

Domina Trix
McKNOBBLER DRINKING CLAN
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Posted - 2013.03.24 15:33:00 -
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HVAC Repairman wrote:anime is cartoons
cartoons are for kids
I disagree, a cartoon is just the media used to portray a story. The content of the story is what determines the target audience.
Try showing a cartoon version of The Human Centipede in between episodes of Tom and Jerry and see what happens. Two of the defining characteristics of a carebear are wanting other players to play the way the carebear wants and whining on the forums for the game to change when they don't. Yet I see more threads on these forums from gankers than I do miners whining about wanting the game changed to suit them. |

Buzzy Warstl
The Strontium Asylum
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Posted - 2013.03.24 15:36:00 -
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It's so much fun watching the "serious" players getting their pixels in a bunch over people using "toon" that many people use it as a taunt, as well. http://www.mud.co.uk/richard/hcds.htm Richard Bartle: Players who suit MUDs |

Beckie DeLey
Living From Scraps
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Posted - 2013.03.24 15:39:00 -
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Domina Trix wrote: Try showing a cartoon version of The Human Centipede in between episodes of Tom and Jerry and see what happens.
I know what you mean.
Tom and Jerry are disgusting. Such violence! So... i started an industry blog at www.derbk.com/eve It has a manufacturing guide that is updated almost once every two months! Check it out!
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Primary This Rifter
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.03.24 16:57:00 -
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Roime wrote:Andr Katelo wrote:I believe it became popular with WoW, its car toony graphics might have had something to do with it.  For the sophisticated gentlemen here, those who braved the MMO market before WoW, the term char (short for character) seems much more familiar, appropriate and, as some might claim, less gay. Actually the word "char" is just ridiculous and sounds ********, and that's why nobody uses it. It's less ridiculous than "toon". Yes, I'm an alt. Congratulations. |

Murk Paradox
Red Tsunami No Value
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Posted - 2013.03.25 15:07:00 -
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Tippia wrote:It was used rather extensively in The Realm (1996), so it predates UO as well. Of course, in the case of The Realm, the term is rather appropriate.
Hah mid 90s, lucky guess on my part!
Oh, and yes, we used "toon" in Everquest quite often. We also used "alt" and "twink", since not everything was untradeable like in WoW, we would use our "mains" (hardcore raiding groups) and the "crap" tradeable items, or very expensive items that were overpowered, we would trade to a lesser skilled/leveled "alt/twink" to pimp out.
Easiest reference for example would be if you had a miner/industry main pilot and decided to outfit a blingy machariel to a pvp pilot who didn't really have the skills to afford to mission run his way to get one himself.
Or faction fitting a smaller cruiser or frig etc, you get the idea. "I say tomato, you say tomaCCP BAN ALL TOMATOES THEY ARE HARASSING ME I WANT TOMATO FREE HIGHSEC."-á -TheGunslinger42 Proud enforcer of the Code, see [url]http://www.minerbumping.com[/url]-á for details. |

De'Veldrin
East India Ore Trade The East India Co.
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Posted - 2013.03.25 15:21:00 -
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HVAC Repairman wrote:anime is cartoons
cartoons are for kids
You don't watch a lot of anime do you? Some of it is DEFINITELY NOT for children. Malcanis for CSM 8
Eve Online: The full-contact sport for your brain. Twitter --á@DeVeldrin |

Debora Tsung
The Investment Bankers Guild
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Posted - 2013.03.25 15:33:00 -
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Roime wrote:Andr Katelo wrote:I believe it became popular with WoW, its car toony graphics might have had something to do with it.  For the sophisticated gentlemen here, those who braved the MMO market before WoW, the term char (short for character) seems much more familiar, appropriate and, as some might claim, less gay. Actually the word "char" is just ridiculous and sounds ********, and that's why nobody uses it. Character is too long and cumbersome, hence "toon".
And it's misleading, if I claim to sell my char the first question I get is if I was talking about my toon or a charon. There's nothing a million chinese guys can't do cheaper. |

Ginger Barbarella
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.03.25 16:03:00 -
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I say "toon" unabashedly. Don't like it? Too freakin' bad. The avatars are cartoons, people, not images of people. "Blow it all on Quafe and strippers." --- Sorlac |

Velicitia
Arma Artificer
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Posted - 2013.03.25 16:13:00 -
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Beckie DeLey wrote:Domina Trix wrote: Try showing a cartoon version of The Human Centipede in between episodes of Tom and Jerry and see what happens.
I know what you mean. Tom and Jerry are disgusting. Such violence!
I miss cartoon violence
One of the bitter points of a good bittervet is the realisation that all those SP don't really do much, and that the newbie is having much more fun with what little he has. - Tippia Malcanis for CSM8 |

TimmyyyJr
Perkone Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.03.25 19:57:00 -
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I first heard and started using the term toon in Star Wars Galaxies. It is easier to type. Has 4 letters, but you only need 3 keys to type it! |

Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
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Posted - 2013.03.25 20:19:00 -
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There was an RPG game in the 80s called "Toon".
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Montevius Williams
Eclipse Industrial Inc
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Posted - 2013.03.25 20:32:00 -
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I call my guy a toon, I guess I'm from the WoW school of thought. "The American Government indoctrination system known as public education has been relentlessly churning out socialists for over 20 years". - TravisWB |

Super spikinator
Hegemonous Conscripts Hegemonous Pandorum
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Posted - 2013.03.25 20:38:00 -
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Lugia3 wrote:Where did the EvE Term "Toon", short for character, come from? I see a lot of people don't like it.
You are e-famous now. This thread is on the #1 spot when you ask where did the term toon come from :P |
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