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Tobias Annages
The Scope Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.03.24 06:20:00 -
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http://community.eveonline.com/news/newsFromEve.asp?of=true&newsTitle=widespread-destruction-hampers-caldari-prime-relief-effort
LUMINARE GÇô Caldari Prime continues to burn this evening, after the Gallente Federation launched its largest military offensive since the end of the Gallente-Caldari war in YC12.
Rescue operations in Arcurio are still underway after wreckage from the destroyed Leviathan-class titan Shiigeru passed overhead on entry, causing a concussion wave strong enough to topple a number of high-rise buildings and cause widespread damage to a large area of the city's south side. |

Diana Kim
State Protectorate Caldari State
377
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Posted - 2013.03.24 06:32:00 -
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Blasted gallentes! They will pay for this atrocity!!
And Ishukone are spineless freaks! Instead of talking with federal dogs, they could break to planet with force. |

Uraniae Fehrnah
Viziam Amarr Empire
205
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Posted - 2013.03.24 07:35:00 -
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Mister Annages, while linking to the article itself you left out a very important piece of information at the end of the unabridged release. That being the reports of Ishukone being in contact with the Federation Senate over access to assist with the relief efforts. That has to be the first small bit of good news to come out of all of this. If The Scope's sources are genuine and accurate this small detail just might, optimistically, serve as a starting point for further diplomatic relations between the State and the Federation.
Caldari Prime may be scarred and reeling from this chain of events, but it seems hope is still alive. |

Noli Toin
Toin Night Research
1
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Posted - 2013.03.24 07:47:00 -
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Diana Kim wrote:
And Ishukone are spineless freaks! Instead of talking with federal dogs, they could break to planet with force.
I have no doubt that Reppola-haan will give your opinion the consideration it deserves. |

Aquila Shadow
Midnight Security Consulting
107
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Posted - 2013.03.24 08:17:00 -
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Uraniae Fehrnah wrote:Mister Annages, while linking to the article itself you left out a very important piece of information at the end of the unabridged release. That being the reports of Ishukone being in contact with the Federation Senate over access to assist with the relief efforts. That has to be the first small bit of good news to come out of all of this. If The Scope's sources are genuine and accurate this small detail just might, optimistically, serve as a starting point for further diplomatic relations between the State and the Federation.
Caldari Prime may be scarred and reeling from this chain of events, but it seems hope is still alive.
The paragraph that Mister Annages has placed in his post is not an abridged version of the article, it is in fact just the first paragraph of the article. The only he left out Ishkones request would be because it was not in the first paragraph. -á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á "Let Vigilance Be Your Sword" |

Katran Luftschreck
Royal Ammatar Engineering Corps
1196
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Posted - 2013.03.24 09:03:00 -
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"Reports are also beginning to circulate that the Ishukone Corporation has made contact with the Gallente Senate in a diplomatic effort to gain access to Caldari Prime to assist with the relief operation."
Hmmm, interesting. Now why would a company on Heth's blaque list gain by doing that, wonders I? Other than getting themselves purged faster for "collaboration" of course.
"Several details about the area remain unclear due to an impenetrable blanket of atmospheric dust and ash that restricts orbital reconnaissance."
"The wreckage is reportedly spread over an area of some 2 million square kilometers.
Render the planet worthless & uninhabitable to everyone... hmmm... problem solved I guess?  Live Events are neither. |

Arkenai Wyrnspire
Turalyon Plus
437
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Posted - 2013.03.24 09:35:00 -
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Diana Kim wrote:Blasted gallentes! They will pay for this atrocity!!
And Ishukone are spineless freaks! Instead of talking with federal dogs, they could break to planet with force.
Arcurio is primarily Gallente city. It is one of the places where the unrest was strongest. CN Shiigeru was threatening to glass it before it was destroyed. If any empire is to take the blame, it is the Caldari. |

Xindi Kraid
The Night Wardens Viro Mors Non Est
208
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Posted - 2013.03.24 10:17:00 -
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Katran Luftschreck wrote:Hmmm, interesting. Now why would a company on Heth's blaque list gain by doing that, wonders I? Other than getting themselves purged faster for "collaboration" of course. They would gain the knowledge that they are actually helping.
We can only hope it's only a matter of time till Heth is the one purged. |

Lasairiona
The Studmuffin's SpaceMonkey's Alliance
22
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Posted - 2013.03.24 10:18:00 -
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I feel sorry for the poor civilians caught in the crossfire of this battle. I hope there were not too many innocent deaths. The poor children. |

Lialus Raithe
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
147
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Posted - 2013.03.24 10:47:00 -
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Diana Kim wrote:Blasted gallentes! They will pay for this atrocity!!
And Ishukone are spineless freaks! Instead of talking with federal dogs, they could break to planet with force.
No, they can't.
Negotiation will more likely get Ishukone access, allowing assistance to the people that need it.
Force will just result in Ishukone getting repelled, losing investments and ultimately accomplishing nothing. |

Ninavask
The Synenose Accord Celestial Imperative
27
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Posted - 2013.03.24 14:03:00 -
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I don't care what nationality you are, what beliefs you have. What matters is getting help to those in the path of destruction this tragedy has wrought. The fact innocents where harmed in this and we should make every effort to help them in this time of crisis. Those with power should use it for the good of all, not just the good of themselves. We are already incomprehensible demons to baseliners, let's correct this. Dr. Ninavask Revan CEO - Commander The Synenose Accord Not indicative of corporate policy unless otherwise stated. |

Istvaan Shogaatsu
Guiding Hand Social Club
859
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Posted - 2013.03.24 14:15:00 -
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You know, there's a simple rule that could have prevented all this.
"You break it, you buy it." |

Andreus Ixiris
Mixed Metaphor
2312
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Posted - 2013.03.24 15:02:00 -
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Diana Kim wrote:Blasted gallentes! They will pay for this atrocity!!
And Ishukone are spineless freaks! Instead of talking with federal dogs, they could break to planet with force. Go spew your bile in your own thread. Adults are talking.
Now, as to important matters, Mixed Metaphor has a very large budget surplus due to recent developments - I'm willing to spend every last penny of it on getting help and supplies to the people on Caldari Prime who need them. Do we know as of yet who's co-ordinating relief efforts? Mane 614
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Caellach Marellus
Aideron Technologies
775
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Posted - 2013.03.24 15:09:00 -
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I believe Morwen Lagann already has a plan of action here. Enjoy your gaming.
http://northern-goblin.blogspot.com |

Silas Vitalia
Nobilita Nera JIHADASQUAD
751
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Posted - 2013.03.24 16:04:00 -
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Unsurprising move from Ishukone.
Surprising that Heth has not made moves, or is unable to make moves, to stop them.
Sabik now, Sabik forever |

Astroyka
Mirkur Draug'Tyr
140
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Posted - 2013.03.24 16:53:00 -
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As Heth made any statements since the destruction of his symbol of oppression? That in its self speaks volumes. No words of condolence for the civilians loyal or otherwise, nor the for the loss of his veteran officers.
Seems the State is lacking leadership, anyone care to step up? Astroyka - A Mirkur Draug'Tyr pilot, fighting against slavery in New Eden www.astroyka.net |

Andreus Ixiris
Mixed Metaphor
2314
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Posted - 2013.03.24 17:00:00 -
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I know if I was in charge of a nation and a disaster comparable to this had occured on a Friday, I'd probably spend the weekend drinking too. Mane 614
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Fredfredbug4
The Scope Gallente Federation
602
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Posted - 2013.03.24 17:09:00 -
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The last we saw of Heth was the afternoon before the attack. He was exhausted, nervous, and just completely stressed out.
His hold on power is slipping, and he knows that, all of the Megacorps know it too. Ishukone would not have attempted to contact the Gallente senate if they knew Heth was capable of stopping them from doing so. I accidentally my assets, is this bad?-á |

Mekhana
Spiritus Draconis Sicarius Draconis
829
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Posted - 2013.03.24 17:31:00 -
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If this is a legitimate attempt from them to bury the hatchet then I believe the Federation should accept it.
Ishukone showed great civility with this act. I wish more Caldari had as much tact as they possess.
Vide longe er eros di Luminaire VII, uni canse pra krage e determiniex! Sange por Sange! Descanse bravex eros, mie freires. Mortir por vostre Liberete, farmilie, ide e amis. lons Proviste sen mort! Luminaire liber mas!-á |

Scherezad
Lai Dai Research Spacelane Security
722
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Posted - 2013.03.24 17:50:00 -
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Silence does not mean stillness. |

Istvaan Shogaatsu
Guiding Hand Social Club
860
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Posted - 2013.03.24 19:08:00 -
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Scherezad wrote:Silence does not mean stillness.
No, it generally indicates a revenge being planned. |

Gosakumori Noh
Viziam Amarr Empire
165
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Posted - 2013.03.24 20:07:00 -
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[CALDARI PRIME. Camera drones race above the fractured and tumbled floes of great frozen Tekojarvi. The ghosts of Amsten and Etee wail on a cutting gale - a banshee's cry across plains of ice. Lights on the horizon, and the drones beep to one another almost in relief.
Temperate Command Center "LUOSTARI-JO GOGOMO." On a suitably high balcony of the gilded but otherwise functional structure, our dear crone stands almost indistinguishable in black, unnaturally fuzzy furs from head to toe. To her right in pristine white stands the diminutive and alien Other Rabbit; left, decked in crimson lined military cold weather gear, a pot-bellied Ealurian with fine spectacles brushes ice from his neatly trimmed mustache. Behind them all looms the silently cylindrical kameira, blotting out the walls of the command center with his formidable bulk.
Below on the tarmac, cadres of stoic employees wait patriotically in the cold for twelve long torso choir boys to finish the State anthem. At its conclusion, Deteis with immaculate and identical blond crew cuts lead units of co-workers through morning calisthenics, chanting "Go Go Go.. GO-GO-MO" in flawless unison.]
"The supply lines are unusually long, of course," observes the Ealurian after some time. "This consumes more power than may otherwise be necessary, limiting our total productive capacity."
As it must be, my dear Dr. Mheket, to extend our good fortune to as much of the troubled surface as possible! Bacteria, proteins, and biofuels - a humble but necessary beginning to a glorious journey of medical science!
"The characteristics of this planet are most intriguing," agrees the good Doctor. "Will the Brutor be delivering biomass from Aphi III? We will need it to begin on the viral agents necessary for our vaccination work. With so much die-off, disease presents a serious threat."
Never have so manky plankton given their all for such a good cause!
[The crone breathes in deeply.]
Oh, dear. I think I just froze my lungs. "Temperate" my, well, you get the picture.
"Yes, madam," agrees the cylindrical kameira.
Right then, everyone inside! Boys! Boys! This way. Warm one another up. Tea! Tea, please! |

Diana Kim
State Protectorate Caldari State
377
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Posted - 2013.03.24 22:37:00 -
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Lialus Raithe wrote:Diana Kim wrote:Blasted gallentes! They will pay for this atrocity!!
And Ishukone are spineless freaks! Instead of talking with federal dogs, they could break to planet with force. No, they can't. Negotiation will more likely get Ishukone access, allowing assistance to the people that need it. Force will just result in Ishukone getting repelled, losing investments and ultimately accomplishing nothing.
Well, if Ishukone is too weak to deal with federate scum itself, it can always ask for help from the Navy, besides, it could be a nice opportunity to retaliate. |

Diana Kim
State Protectorate Caldari State
377
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Posted - 2013.03.24 22:43:00 -
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Ninavask wrote:I don't care what nationality you are, what beliefs you have. What matters is getting help to those in the path of destruction this tragedy has wrought. The fact innocents where harmed in this and we should make every effort to help them in this time of crisis. Those with power should use it for the good of all, not just the good of themselves. We are already incomprehensible demons to baseliners, let's correct this. We are combat pilots in first place. And it is in our power to unite efforts and strike back, any Federation asset, that can be harmed by capsullers, should be harmed. Any Federation supporters, that can be killed by capsuleers, must be killed. We must make anything possible to prevent such situation ever again. We must save innocent people lives by destroying everything related to Federation.
They will pay for what they done. |

Andreus Ixiris
Mixed Metaphor
2316
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Posted - 2013.03.25 00:37:00 -
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Diana Kim wrote:We are combat pilots in first place. And it is in our power to unite efforts and strike back, any Federation asset, that can be harmed by capsullers, should be harmed. Any Federation supporters, that can be killed by capsuleers, must be killed. We must make anything possible to prevent such situation ever again. We must save innocent people lives by destroying everything related to Federation.
They will pay for what they done. You realise that no-one is going to help you, don't you? Mane 614
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Diana Kim
State Protectorate Caldari State
377
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Posted - 2013.03.25 00:54:00 -
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Andreus Ixiris wrote: You realise that no-one is going to help you, don't you?
I am a combat pilot, kid. I am flying with many peoples who share my ideas and goals. So, please stop using this drugs and try to look at the real world at least once. |

Xindi Kraid
The Night Wardens Viro Mors Non Est
224
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Posted - 2013.03.25 01:44:00 -
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Diana Kim wrote:
Well, if Ishukone is too weak to deal with federate scum itself, it can always ask for help from the Navy, besides, it could be a nice opportunity to retaliate.
Not showing martial prowess is not the same as weakness. Sometimes it takes more strength NOT to shoot. Getting the Navy involved won't do any good aside from generating more debris to fall on our homeworld.
It is because of petty warmongering that Caldari prime needs relief efforts in the first place, so kindly shove off. |

Fredfredbug4
The Scope Gallente Federation
605
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Posted - 2013.03.25 01:59:00 -
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Diana Kim wrote:Andreus Ixiris wrote: You realise that no-one is going to help you, don't you?
I am a combat pilot, kid. I am flying with many peoples who share my ideas and goals. So, please stop using this drugs and try to look at the real world at least once.
You appear to be less interested in the ideals and cause of your faction and more interested in just having something to shoot at.
People like you are why the empires will take ages to find peace, if they ever do. You seem more fit to be a pirate than a soldier fighting for a cause.
I accidentally my assets, is this bad?-á |

Diana Kim
State Protectorate Caldari State
377
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Posted - 2013.03.25 03:11:00 -
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Xindi Kraid wrote:Diana Kim wrote:
Well, if Ishukone is too weak to deal with federate scum itself, it can always ask for help from the Navy, besides, it could be a nice opportunity to retaliate.
Not showing martial prowess is not the same as weakness. Sometimes it takes more strength NOT to shoot. Sometimes it take more strength to not shoot, sometimes to shoot...
Xindi Kraid wrote: Getting the Navy involved won't do any good aside from generating more debris to fall on our homeworld.
Whom do you consider our Navy to be? It is gallentean tactic to wage wars by killing civilians. Tell me, how many "debris" there were in space, when Tibus Heth first time kicked gallentean occupants from our planet? I don't think such operation will require any fight on orbit of Caldari Prime, neither low, nor high. During this operation the tripwire system should be temporary disabled or completely destroyed in affected systems, and, if I was planning such operation, I would launch fake or just parallel attack on arbitrary military gallentean installation to distract them from ships operating with civilians.
Xindi Kraid wrote: It is because of petty warmongering that Caldari prime needs relief efforts in the first place, so kindly shove off.
Gallente hit us when we didn't expect it, obliterating many civilian lives with their greedness to have one more planet. And you prefer to let them go without retaliation? Where is your dignity, sir? This is repulsive. |

Diana Kim
State Protectorate Caldari State
377
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Posted - 2013.03.25 03:23:00 -
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Fredfredbug4 wrote: You appear to be less interested in the ideals and cause of your faction and more interested in just having something to shoot at.
People like you are why the empires will take ages to find peace, if they ever do. You seem more fit to be a pirate than a soldier fighting for a cause.
Ideals? Of course, I am not interested in ideals. Ideals are empty words. Only gallentean dumbheads can take others lives because of their ideals. That's why they should be disposed of. That's why I feel no pity when I pull trigger on gallenteans.
What is worth defending are actual interests, actual territories, resources and human lives. Including protecting humans from idealistic bigots like gallentes.
Actually, I would name pirate a soldier who is fighting for an ideal or personal gain. Real soldier fights because of duty and follows orders, not just shoots around. Maybe it is hard to understand to a gallenteans, whose brains were liquefied by numerous gallentean holoreels, that represent bigoted idealistic idiots as heroes and professionals as villains. |
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