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Xython
Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.10.15 15:56:00 -
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>Isn't it about time suicide ganking was fixed? (Not removed, just made harder).
No.
Well, that was a quick thread.
(They already DID this, back when Jihadswarm started. HARDEN UP, PUBBIES.) |
Xython
Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.10.15 15:59:00 -
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Alara IonStorm wrote:I think changes need to be made...
To the ships. Mining Barges have almost no room for tank..
Why would it? It's supposed to be weak. You're supposed to have an escort if you're in a dangerous area. And with the Goons around, Gallente Ice Fields are a dangerous area.
I'm really sorry your guys' Ice Miner Bot Alts got ganked, but that's the chances you take when you run an AFK Bot.
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Xython
Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.10.15 16:03:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Igualmentedos wrote:If you ABSOLUTELY want to kill someone, you should be able to do it no matter where they are, but it should actually cost some isk. Fun fact: it does, even with insurance. Quote:I disagree, the purpose for suicide ganking should be to eliminate your opponent, and in rare circumstances you would be able to turn a profit. SoGǪ why should it be disincentivised? And why should it only be profitable under rare circumstances? Quote:overall, you should lose a great deal of ISK in the process (depending on target and your ship). Insurance should be removed for those smacked down by concord. Why?
The hilarious thing is that Mittani called this one right off weeks ago. Highsec carebears literally cannot grasp the concept that this isn't about isk. It's about having fun.
Just wait until the stockpiles of Bot mined Oxytopes run out in a week or two. Oh god, then we're gonna have some delicious forum rage when people go to fill their Gallente POSes and the market absolutely collapses... |
Xython
Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.10.15 16:15:00 -
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Alara IonStorm wrote:Xython wrote:
Why would it? It's supposed to be weak. You're supposed to have an escort if you're in a dangerous area.
Tactics that makes no sense in current game mechanics: Check. - SNIP - Bonus Points: A member Goonswarm condemning botting. The results: definitely your average Goon post.
Yes, cause Goons bot all the time. In fact, I'm actually a really, really complex dictionary script. BadPoster3000 2.1 Alpha. Fnord brisk, Blood orange away!
Silly pubbie. Botting is against the Goonswarm rules, and the last thing I'd do is break the Goonswarm rules.
As for "the tactic" (having a bodyguard), it actually does make perfect sense... as long as you're not a fat lazy AFK mining pubbie with an entitlement complex who feels he should be able to just set up his ice miner bot and come back a few billion isk richer.
But I'll bite. What "current game mechanics" exist that suggest that having an escort, or a remote rep logistics ship, or something similar covering your six no longer works? Remember, "fat lazy afk pubbie" isn't a mechanic, it's a character flaw.
I can't wait to see you carebears trying to wrap your cute little heads around the idea of needing a bodyguard and scouts and crap when they move all Ice to nullsec. You guys are going to have nervous breakdowns. Especially cause when that happens, it won't be one Brutix suicide ganking you. It'll be 20 of them. With bubbles and tackle. |
Xython
Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.10.15 16:23:00 -
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Ogi Talvanen wrote:Last time i was ganking hulks and macks in belts funny thing is we warned them 10 minutes before in local not to mine or they will loose their ships. No one took us seriously until they lost their ships and then raged in the local. I dont get that.
Combination of Entitlement Syndrome (the game OWES me this ore and isk) and an arrogant belief that they're invincible in highsec (which is why this is so fun). |
Xython
Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.10.15 16:37:00 -
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Zerra Zeta wrote:k, just don't change 'afk' cloaking (it's a viable tactic), easy suicide ganking is sort of silly.... actually I wonder if the goons are working with hellmar
Er, can you try that again with sentences? I think you're saying we like AFK cloaking (we -- or at least I -- don't), but I don't want to get all ranty only to hear you say "er, that's what I meant" after the fact.
That's considered a FAUX PAS, after all. |
Xython
Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.10.15 16:41:00 -
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Ogi Talvanen wrote:Watch local. Be aligned. Dont afk. Use warp core stabilizer. Tank ship.
Give this man a prize, he can now be king of the potato people.
Er, I mean pubbies. Pubbies.
Seriously, this isn't HARD.
Ogi -- you did forget the most important part:
Don't mine Ice in Gallente Space. We will find you. We will kill you. We will laugh at your crappy threads crying about it. Go mine elsewhere. |
Xython
Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.10.15 18:40:00 -
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Akrasjel Lanate wrote:Dont remove ganking just ban GSF
I agree! Ban these annoying bastards! I can't believe they're doing this. What do they think this is, a sandbox game?
:whisper whisper:
Huh? What? GSF means what? Goonswarm Fe... Oh crap, that's us!
No, wait, DON'T ban GSF!
I think it's hilarious and sad ... well, mostly hilarious ... that the entirety of the EVE Online Economy is hedging on a few hundred bots bringing in oxytopes for the various POSes et all.
What's even more sad is that the complacent pubbies who are helping ruin the game are more upset at Goonswarm fighting back against the bots than they are at the bots. Puts things in perspective.
(Hint: The perspective is: Fat AFK pubbies are lazy and dumb.) |
Xython
Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.10.15 20:55:00 -
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Valhallas wrote:OK, lets say for arguments sake my hulk (i can't fly a hulk and never will) can survive 30 gank boats with a value 4 times more than my hulk after insurance payback. You still up for the gank?
Though not, don't bring stupid to the forum pls.
I remember having this same discussion with my friends back in the day.
I was 8. It was either Final Fantasy bosses or Pro Wrestlers. I think we decided Sargent Slaughter could beat up Lich but Kraken would probably take him.
(I guess what I'm saying is this is a dumb argument and you should feel bad.) |
Xython
Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.10.15 21:20:00 -
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Psychophantic wrote:Concord kills result in loss of skill points.
Some real consequences instead of this we killed your boat, you lost some sec which wont affect your nano fit smart bombing bs, and heres some isk for your next run.
I have a better idea. How about anyone who ever personally inconveniences me while I'm being AFK and stupid gets DELETED. YEAAA, that'll teach'm.
Oh wait, that's a horrible idea. As is loss of skill points.
For chirsts's sakes people, ganking has been part of the game since the beginning, it's working as intended.
HARDEN THE **** UP. |
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Xython
Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.10.15 21:24:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Psychophantic wrote:Concord kills result in loss of skill points. Why?
Because carebears, that's why. |
Xython
Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.10.15 21:31:00 -
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P42ALPHA wrote:Is there not one other thing ice miners can do for the 1-2 maybe 3 weeks before the goons move on to mess with someone else?
That would require they reconfigure their bots, and WAAAAH, why should they have to they're the most bestest EVE players in the WOOOOORLD!!!111!11o111!111
And anyone who thinks Goons are going to get tired of this has something else coming. Every time one of these threads comes up it just invigorates us to try harder. Because losing one ship is apparently enough to send you thin skinned children into frothy rage, demanding we get banned, have our characters' skillpoints nutered, be teleported out of highsec, etc etc...
All because you all don't actually enjoy the game enough to pay attention to it. |
Xython
Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.10.15 21:36:00 -
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Zhade Lezte wrote:So buff CONCORD response time again huh
No, didn't you listen? Apparently the pubbies won't be satisfied until they replace the entire EVE UI with Hello Kitty Online's.
NO PEEKAY PLESS, I AR SLEEPY |
Xython
Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.10.15 21:47:00 -
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Angelo Doelman wrote:Why must every ship be able to fit a tank? This is a role-specific ship. So specific, that this class of ship are the only ships capable of fitting a strip miner or a ice harvester.
They don't have to fit a tank. If they were aligned out and actually paying attention to the game, they could avoid all these ganks. Just warp out when Goons show up. Easy.
Unfortunately, the people complaining don't actually enjoy the game enough to pay attention to it.
Not just bots, but badposting on forums (mostly crying about Goons killing them while they were on the forums badposting about goons) with EVE open in the background. Stuff like that. |
Xython
Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.10.15 21:56:00 -
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KaarBaak wrote:It's an isk faucet that should be turned off. For everyone.
The only way this makes sense is if you're an AFKing highsec pubbie who can count on one hand the number of ships he's lost this week.
(Usually these types run AFK missions and/or AFK bot mine, so they really don't count for anything other than target practice.)
For the rest of us, those who actually play the game, losing ships is a common enough occurrence that insurance is vital. To say nothing about newbies who rely on that insurance to get back into the game without mining or doing L1 missions in a newbie frig to buy a second battleship... every time they die.
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Xython
Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.10.15 21:58:00 -
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Angelo Doelman wrote:Active doesn't work, because they need to remain close to the ice for the duration of the cycle.
Works fine. Align, when you're pointed at the warpout location, hit ctrl-space to stop your ship. Yes, you'll have to speed up to get out, but it's not like they're going to be tackling you or something.
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Xython
Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.10.15 22:01:00 -
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Alara IonStorm wrote:Then it should be no problem dealing with a competently tanked ship.
Right. And it isn't.
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Xython
Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.10.15 22:05:00 -
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Well, yeah, if they get you targeted and pointed, you're dead.
AND SHOULD BE.
But if you're watching and warp out before they can do that. Like, say, when they enter local.
But again, that would require these people actually enjoy the game enough to pay attention to it while "playing."
And they don't. |
Xython
Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.10.15 22:22:00 -
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Shawnm339 wrote:Do you actually believe this? I mean seriously what a complete turd you are...tears salt wtf are you on with? Seriously go out get laid do something cos this **** makes you sound like a complete comic book guy.......now taste my tears you nob
WOO HOO, We're all nobs!
OI BOYZ, LETZ GO GET UZ SOM 'OOMIES!
WAAAAAAAAGGGH |
Xython
Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.10.15 22:30:00 -
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Yes, killing miners is kinda boring.
Listening to miners cry on the forums about it is HILARIOUS. |
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Xython
Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.10.15 22:32:00 -
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Shawnm339 wrote:Shawnm339 wrote:I actually live down the road from games wrokshop fact......so many neckbeards taking this pixel game way too seriously...youre tears are pure I mean seriously what are people on about? I plaqy cos its fun same as other people if you encroach on my idea of fun ill adapt....I personally cant stand mining it makes me want to run headfirst into a wall but for me to sit here saying that killing them makes me tears i mean what a ***** I dont get what people are on about...salty tears I mean seriously wtf my ship blows up i buy a new one lol what is going on that people are so possessive over **** they own..its a game I've put a lot of time into yeah but thats all it is on either side if you are pursuing people for their tears deoesnt that make you a bit lonely and in need of a hug?
The problem is all these highsec pubbies are so used to never, ever dying and never having to interact with anyone else that the loss of a single ship is a life changing event. Or something. |
Xython
Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.10.15 23:28:00 -
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Shawnm339 wrote:Xython wrote:Yes, killing miners is kinda boring.
Listening to miners cry on the forums about it is HILARIOUS. I agree the end result is probably more humorous than the doing...I mean you're targeting some guy that afks watching films he comes back to his pod.......there is no social interaction
Psst, if he leaves to watch a movie and is still mining, he's using a bot and deserves to lose his ship. |
Xython
Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.10.16 00:38:00 -
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Grey Stormshadow wrote:Concord works fine, ganks are part of the game.
Insurance system is flawed. It should be transformed into contract based player driven business model. Current insurance system pumps too much new iskies to the game and has no real function in the game.
Actually I just realized this suggestion here would let us run insurance scams.
I COMPLETELY SUPPORT THIS. |
Xython
Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.10.16 01:54:00 -
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Hecatonis wrote:in high sec this will get the escort killed and then BS gankers will then kill the miner.
i think this thread would be better if it read "no viable way to stop ganking in high sec" because there isnt one that i know of.
Er, so why would you be sitting there when a bunch of battleships surrounded you and prepared to blast you into space rocks? |
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