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Commander A9
The Scope Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.03.24 22:37:00 -
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Hello, all!
I see that the "Assault on Caldari Prime Ribbon" and "Defense of Caldari Prime Ribbon" have become items.
Might I suggest that any accolades to be awarded to pilots who participated in this event (or for whatever qualifications deemed relevant) be issued as medals which players can display on their profiles as decorations?
Decorations are more permanent, and I think more profound and rewarding. That and anyone can auto-link an item into a chat and proclaim "I was there! Look what I got!" without there being any way to show proof of participation. Plus, as an item, it can be lost, or bought (i.e., reminds me of a scenario begging for "stolen valor"), which would degrade its value.
However, if the award for participation (sic) is a medal, as a decoration, granted by the fleet commanders of the Federation and/or Caldari Navies (names escape me), the act is more permanent and motivating-there's no way to fake participation, and I would say such recognition through this act would motivate people to participate in future live events.
To help it remain unique, the medal could use graphics and designs which no standard player corporation can access (perhaps a ribbon extending down to a circle depicting the planet itself...I'm thinking of some old medals from the old 1995 X-Wing simulator by Lucasarts)
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Might I also suggest that future live event rewards be bestowed as medal decorations, as motivating player to participate and for players to show off to colleagues. Recommendations: -bring back the Jukebox! -enable ships wobbling in hangar view (pre-Captains Quarters) -add more missions (NPC fleet vs. NPC fleets that actually shoot) -less focus on graphics, more on mechanics |
Calathorn Virpio
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2013.03.24 22:43:00 -
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+1 CCP are the French gate camping=/=PVP everything else is fair game |
Ilunes Lailara
Spiritus Draconis Sicarius Draconis
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Posted - 2013.03.24 22:49:00 -
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I second this motion. It has been done previously with the Caldari and Gallente FW medals, although it allegedly has been hard to implement. |
Simon Louvaki
Sengokuvaa Kaltiovon
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Posted - 2013.03.24 22:51:00 -
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Fully support this idea. The weak of mind are quick to judge with slightest tempt; Thus fools go forth to spread false word.
- The Scriptures, Book of Trials 2:13 - 2:21 |
Daoa Hakoke
Federal Defense Union Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.03.24 23:15:00 -
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I second this as well. I have been thinking the exact same thing and would love to see this. |
Aquila Shadow
Midnight Security Consulting
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Posted - 2013.03.25 03:57:00 -
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I fully endorse this product and/or statement. -á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á "Let Vigilance Be Your Sword" |
Grideris
Fleet Coordination Commission Fleet Coordination Coalition
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Posted - 2013.03.25 09:19:00 -
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You don't really need unique models for the medals. That's what the "granting corporation" bits are for. http://www.dust514.org - the unofficial forum for everything DUST 514 http://www.dust514base.com - the blog site with everything else DUST 514 you need
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Commander A9
The Scope Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.03.25 15:05:00 -
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Grideris wrote:You don't really need unique models for the medals. That's what the "granting corporation" bits are for.
Mmm, perhaps. But a medal unique to each live event might be interesting.
Also, some people were talking to me about "just how might this be done."
My response would be: 1. Check the killmails on the capital ships (those who shot Caldari get the Assault Medal, those who shot Gallente get the defense medal; the logs would show who shot who as well) 2. Check with Live Events personnel to see who participated (so we don't forget about our logistical support that kept alot of us alive; lots of us have screenshots with names, and fleet logs would show who participated as well) 3. Check Faction Warfare (Gallente, Caldari, easy enough)
I know it's lofty and might take some time, but, hell, so does setting up live events. :P
I was thinking that if CCP could issue medals regardless of who was in what corps, that might be simplistic. Or those who participated could be invited into a temporary corporation such as "awards ceremony" (sic).
Hell, the next live event could BE an awards ceremony, like in New Caldari or Algogille. Recommendations: -bring back the Jukebox! -enable ships wobbling in hangar view (pre-Captains Quarters) -add more missions (NPC fleet vs. NPC fleets that actually shoot) -less focus on graphics, more on mechanics |
Vad Lander
Interstellar Brotherhood of Eternal Warfare
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Posted - 2013.03.25 15:54:00 -
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I would rather an actual medal rather than an item. Supported +1. |
Simon Louvaki
Sengokuvaa Kaltiovon
390
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Posted - 2013.03.25 16:01:00 -
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Where did you see/obtain these items btw? The weak of mind are quick to judge with slightest tempt; Thus fools go forth to spread false word.
- The Scriptures, Book of Trials 2:13 - 2:21 |
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Commander A9
The Scope Gallente Federation
152
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Posted - 2013.03.25 20:03:00 -
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If you auto-link "Assault on Caldari Prime Ribbon" and "Defense of Caldari Prime Ribbon" in any text format, you will see it designate an item. Recommendations: -bring back the Jukebox! -enable ships wobbling in hangar view (pre-Captains Quarters) -add more missions (NPC fleet vs. NPC fleets that actually shoot) -less focus on graphics, more on mechanics |
Aquila Shadow
Midnight Security Consulting
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Posted - 2013.03.26 09:12:00 -
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I think Simon was secretly asking were he could get one. -á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á "Let Vigilance Be Your Sword" |
Ace Echo
The Shadow Raiders Fleet Coordination Coalition
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Posted - 2013.03.26 14:51:00 -
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Aquila Shadow wrote:I think Simon was secretly asking were he could get one.
A9 answered the see part, not the obtain.
I would love to see this implemeneted but it seems like a crapton of extra non-critical work for CCP and ergo I doubt it will happen. Creds if they do manage it, though. |
Commander A9
The Scope Gallente Federation
154
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Posted - 2013.03.26 14:58:00 -
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Ah, well, yes, I haven't obtained or received one, and we're not sure of anyone who has as of yet.
Live Events Channel and FCORD discovered the existence of these items, so I got an idea in my head about them, hence this topic. :P Recommendations: -bring back the Jukebox! -enable ships wobbling in hangar view (pre-Captains Quarters) -add more missions (NPC fleet vs. NPC fleets that actually shoot) -less focus on graphics, more on mechanics |
Simon Louvaki
Sengokuvaa Kaltiovon
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Posted - 2013.03.26 16:05:00 -
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Aquila Shadow wrote:I think Simon was secretly asking were he could get one.
Secretly...yes...erhehm.. I just like to think my shattered remains floating above Caldari Prime wasn't for nothing :P
The weak of mind are quick to judge with slightest tempt; Thus fools go forth to spread false word.
- The Scriptures, Book of Trials 2:13 - 2:21 |
Commander A9
The Scope Gallente Federation
154
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Posted - 2013.03.26 16:45:00 -
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Simon Louvaki wrote:Aquila Shadow wrote:I think Simon was secretly asking were he could get one. Secretly...yes...erhehm.. I just like to think my shattered remains floating above Caldari Prime wasn't for nothing :P
I hope everyone who participated is awarded properly myself, now and in the future. :P
Who doesn't love medals? Recommendations: -bring back the Jukebox! -enable ships wobbling in hangar view (pre-Captains Quarters) -add more missions (NPC fleet vs. NPC fleets that actually shoot) -less focus on graphics, more on mechanics |
Aliventi
Burning Napalm Northern Coalition.
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Posted - 2013.03.26 20:23:00 -
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Commander A9 wrote:Grideris wrote:You don't really need unique models for the medals. That's what the "granting corporation" bits are for. My response would be: 1. Check the killmails on the capital ships (those who shot Caldari get the Assault Medal, those who shot Gallente get the defense medal; the logs would show who shot who as well) Unfortunately that won't work. Some of us smarter KM whores shot the titan and wyverns anyway because they going to die even though we were supporting the Caldari. Still shot and helped kill a lot of gallente caps. Of course you could give me both
The simplest solution would be to find out where was there, then in game/through account management allow us to choose which one we would prefer. |
Turelus
Caldari Independent Navy Reserve The Fourth District
317
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Posted - 2013.03.26 23:30:00 -
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What ever action they choose they will upset people, those who couldn't get into system because of the cap, those who didn't shoot the right targets, those who didn't fight due to x or y reasons. Will be interesting to see what they do, I already got screwed out of one medal by CCP so I don't think I will lose any sleep over not getting one. [00:18:15] Intex Encapor > THIS NOW IN: TURELUS 5% MORE BITTER THAN INTEX |
Markus Reese
Incertae Sedis
345
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Posted - 2013.03.27 01:50:00 -
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Turelus wrote:What ever action they choose they will upset people, those who couldn't get into system because of the cap, those who didn't shoot the right targets, those who didn't fight due to x or y reasons. Will be interesting to see what they do, I already got screwed out of one medal by CCP so I don't think I will lose any sleep over not getting one.
Those who shoot the right targets, that would be one that I would fall under probably. I had a tough time getting into the fight, and when I was in, I didn't focus on the NPCs but instead assisting calls from other roleplayers.
For myself, it would be more an issue of management. There has been alot of feedback from past live events people on what we liked and didnt like. Most successful live events in terms of story, etc.
Personally, if they are going to become pointless gank fests, just about killmails and FFA fighting, I hope ccp just comes out and says so. I will sound bitter in this, I always sound bitter talking live events and roleplay. But this latest live event today, same thing. We will run a quick fleet through lowsec. But if we announce it, it will be a hotdrop. So lets not really let the people who make the live events work have time to do anything. |
Commander A9
The Scope Gallente Federation
160
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Posted - 2013.03.28 20:03:00 -
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Well, we'll see what happens.
Thanks, everyone, for airing your thoughts. :) Recommendations: -bring back the Jukebox! -enable ships wobbling in hangar view (pre-Captains Quarters) -add more missions (NPC fleet vs. NPC fleets that actually shoot) -less focus on graphics, more on mechanics |
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Sassaniak
Rayvek Laboratories
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Posted - 2013.03.29 18:00:00 -
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I shot none of the right people.
As someone who flew logi without the seemingly requisite warrior Drone for getting on kms, I don't think there will be much evidence i was there, other then the logs and a few screenshots.
I would like a medal for this but since none of the other live events gave medals i dont know why this would be that much different. ...............................................................................
Sometimes, you all make me very disappointed. |
Commander A9
The Scope Gallente Federation
161
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Posted - 2013.03.30 14:38:00 -
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Sassaniak wrote:I shot none of the right people.
As someone who flew logi without the seemingly requisite warrior Drone for getting on kms, I don't think there will be much evidence i was there, other then the logs and a few screenshots.
I would like a medal for this but since none of the other live events gave medals i dont know why this would be that much different.
Doesn't mean they can't award a medal for this event.
There WAS a question of how we'd recognize logistical pilots in FCORD Live Events chat; my solution would be exactly as you mentioned-check the logs.
That and sometimes we get some developers who pop into Live Events; they can always check the logs or talk to the fleet commanders-there's a list of logistical pilots. A few clicks of a mouse and those pilots are recognized. In fact, I think CCP Falcon popped into Live Events just yesterday when the New Caldari demonstration was in progress. Recommendations: -bring back the Jukebox! -enable ships wobbling in hangar view (pre-Captains Quarters) -add more missions (NPC fleet vs. NPC fleets that actually shoot) -less focus on graphics, more on mechanics |
Commander A9
The Scope Gallente Federation
161
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Posted - 2013.04.02 21:24:00 -
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I just spoke with CCP Falcon in FCORD "Live Events" chat. He tells me he and the staff are examining player feedback of how to handle awarding the "ribbons" in question to people.
I wanted to say thanks to CCP for taking player concerns into consideration. :)
One discussion I recently had with some colleagues focused on how to award medals en masse to people, if the idea of medals were to be pursued.
Aside from the other ideas I listed here, I was thinking that if medals from CCP were truly confined to being awarded based on corps enlistment (i.e., can only award medals to people in same corps), CCP could theoretically invite recipients into special corps, such as the Federation Navy or Caldari Navy themselves if possible, or even Faction Warfare, and award them that way.
I'm not terribly sure of what kind of powers CCP truly has in terms of game mechanics, but, by default, I'd say anything is possible. Recommendations: -bring back the Jukebox! -enable ships wobbling in hangar view (pre-Captains Quarters) -add more missions (NPC fleet vs. NPC fleets that actually shoot) -less focus on graphics, more on mechanics |
Calathorn Virpio
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
180
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Posted - 2013.04.06 21:48:00 -
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in the live events discussion damn dirty cat linked the ribbons for the event, curious on when we will be recieving them
(don't rely on KM, tons of unaligned shot at the titan) CCP are the French gate camping=/=PVP everything else is fair game |
Commander A9
The Scope Gallente Federation
168
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Posted - 2013.04.08 02:57:00 -
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Ah, are they actually profile medal decorations, or just items only 0.1 m3 in size or something like that? Recommendations: -bring back the Jukebox! -enable ships wobbling in hangar view (pre-Captains Quarters) -add more missions (NPC fleet vs. NPC fleets that actually shoot) -less focus on graphics, more on mechanics |
Tavin Aikisen
Revenent Defence Corperation Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
167
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Posted - 2013.04.08 12:56:00 -
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It shouldn't be done based directly on kills. For example in my case for some reason I have not received any registered kills on the Federation fleet yet I fired MANY missiles at them that night. Yet kills I did AFTER the capital ships (against Federation loyalists) have all registered.
This might also pigeonhole people who metagamed by shooting the Titan just to receive the kill, but would generally be State loyalists... Serves them right but a little leniency doesn't hurt. ;) Remember this. Trust your eyes, you will kill each other. Trust your veins, you can all go home. -Cold Wind |
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CCP Falcon
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Posted - 2013.04.09 13:31:00 -
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Sorry guys, I thought I'd already responded to this one.
So, we're looking at how we can take care of this, player concerns taken into account. I've spoken with quite a few players over the last couple of weeks and taken on board a lot of feedback.
Obviously as eagle-eyed EVE players, you've noticed the two decorations that were created as ingame items. These were intended to be distributed depending on how things played out and what criteria we decided upon as a result of the event.
Given how many people were involved and how crazy things got, we're looking at alternate solutions. Please bear with us while we take your feedback into account and decide on a solution that will be the best for everyone.
CCP Falcon -á || -á EVE Community Team -á || -á EVE Illuminati -á || -á Live Events Organizer
@CCP_Falcon -á || -á-á@EVE_LiveEvents |
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Commander A9
The Scope Gallente Federation
304
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Posted - 2013.04.11 19:31:00 -
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Thanks, Falcon! Glad CCP is on top of this. :)
Hey, don't worry. In today's militaries, it can take months to get awards squared away, given how many people potentially qualify.
See you in space! Recommendations: -bring back the Jukebox! -enable ships wobbling in hangar view (pre-Captains Quarters) -add more missions (NPC fleet vs. NPC fleets that actually shoot) -less focus on graphics, more on mechanics |
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CCP Falcon
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Posted - 2013.04.12 10:59:00 -
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So, some feedback on this.
I've spoken to the storyline team with a proposal and descriptive stuff after gathering feedback from you guys. The proposal and the content has been approved for ribbons that will be awarded as a real decoration in the character sheets of those who qualify rather than an ingame item.
However, our content team is intensely busy in the run-up to Fanfest and the summer expansion, as such the decorations won't be making an appearance in your character sheets until a little after EVE Online: Odyssey is released on June 4th.
It's just going to take a little time to get this done since there's a lot of commitments in the run-up to the summer expansion, but the ribbons will be full decorations that will be displayed in the character sheets of those who receive them.
Thanks for your feedback on this guys, its been much appreciated and we hope you're happy with the outcome.
CCP Falcon -á || -á EVE Community Team -á || -á EVE Illuminati -á || -á Live Events Organizer
@CCP_Falcon -á || -á-á@EVE_LiveEvents |
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Aquila Shadow
Midnight Security Consulting
142
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Posted - 2013.04.12 11:14:00 -
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This will be well worth the wait! -á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á "Let Vigilance Be Your Sword" |
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