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Harisdrop	Posted - 2005.08.30 17:31:00 - [1] I have to mention that without Carebears your Alliance aint doo Mine you own roids. Buy your own BP I Would like all those carebears in those border regions start selling Battleships for 300million and HAC's should be 200million Interceptors should be 150million Assualt frigs 150million. your PVP corps will be sucking crokite with miner 1 and buying Trit for 10 isk each. -------------------------- Does it matter why, its when is more crucial! Sometimes you dont worry about today when its thursday.
Sku1ly	Posted - 2005.08.30 17:32:00 - [2] Great post. A+++++++++.
FalloutBoy	Posted - 2005.08.30 17:33:00 - [3] Edited by: FalloutBoy on 30/08/2005 17:32:52 thats fine I mine my own mins (Rat hunt) use corp bought BP0s, in 0.0 thier are no industrial pilots or pvp pilots were all 0.0 pilots and only the self sufficent survive need a sig? Gallery Contact me for more information
Koth Krakenworth	Posted - 2005.08.30 17:36:00 - [4] I guess we'll just have to declare war on you all and kill you then. Order has to be kept, riots will be put down by force ;) "It is a mistake to think you can solve any major problems just with potatoes."
SengH	Posted - 2005.08.30 17:40:00 - [5] maybe someone forgot to mention to him that there are things called hauler spawns?
Rod Blaine	Posted - 2005.08.30 17:48:00 - [6] You severely overestimate the dependency of 0.0 operating corporations on empire-only based corps. _______________________________________________ Yes yes, blogging is passÚ I know. Rod's Ramblingz on Eve-Online Solutions to your issues.
Harisdrop	Posted - 2005.08.30 18:01:00 - [7] Originally by: Rod Blaine You severely overestimate the dependency of 0.0 operating corporations on empire-only based corps. Someday carebears of 0.0 will hunt and wardec those carebears in Empire. We see that you are infringing our terittory. We 0.0 carebears must stop selling zyd and morphite to the empire carebears unless we do soo at 50k isk for morphite and 40k isk for Zydrine. Seems the balance has been lost and the real battles will be on the carebears of empire. The hunt is on and now the game of Eve has changed! -------------------------- Does it matter why, its when is more crucial! Sometimes you dont worry about today when its thursday.
MadGaz	Posted - 2005.08.30 18:02:00 - [8] ------------------------------------------
David Corbett	Posted - 2005.08.30 18:04:00 - [9] I would have agreed with you, once upon a time. However, the fact is, in a 0.0 PvP corporation, there's more than a fair share of BPOs and people who can mine. Honestly, your plan wouldn't work. Carebear activities, such as mining and building and hauling, make alliances. An organization of people who can only do that, however, do not.
Harisdrop	Posted - 2005.08.30 18:12:00 - [10] Wars dont have to have a shot fired! I never said acorp of carebears. I said "I have to mention that without Carebears your Alliance aint doo " I am in a great PVP corp there are maybe 3 of us out of 100 that are in the corp. Its not our corp that dissess us. Its more about the count of Kill mails and smack we endure in Alliance chat. I promise you all have not seen the end of this convo. Please be warry as your alt little corp is mining when you have logged your pvp player since you cant PVP either! -------------------------- Does it matter why, its when is more crucial! Sometimes you dont worry about today when its thursday.
Joan Smith	Posted - 2005.08.30 18:13:00 - [11] empire need carebears but 0.0 dont need carbears imho
siim	Posted - 2005.08.30 18:15:00 - [12] Originally by: Joan Smith empire need carebears but 0.0 dont need carbears imho it does.. where else u get high end minerals to build t2 stuff?
Krapz	Posted - 2005.08.30 18:41:00 - [13] yawn. Everyone is a carebear in Eve. Hell, it's almost to the point where pirating is a carebear event. You make isk, you carebear. Carebears will never unite, because they always undercut each other getting more isk, or gouging the next guy. Why do you think we get THREE toons per acct? -- Insert cool graphics sig here --
Xrak	Posted - 2005.08.30 19:01:00 - [14] FFS, people get a grip. Carebears are people who avoid pvp as much as they can. ok?
Yolan	Posted - 2005.08.30 19:09:00 - [15] /emote checks skills Mining 5 Refining 5 Refining Efficiency 5 Mining Barge 5 Gunnery 8mill SP Alt with maxed out manufacturing skills Alt than can fly freighters. So remind me please why I will not be able to be a self sufficient PvP'r when your Empire Revolution takes place? You really do fail to realise that virtually every single 0.0 corp/player has the means to be self sufficient if required, its part and parcel of 0.0 life.
Waagaa Ktlehr	Posted - 2005.08.30 19:17:00 - [16] You know what's great about EVE? In EVE, carebearing = PvPing, you are competing for selling your stuff with other people. PLAYER VS PLAYER. In EVE, you lose ships, you really lose assets. you have to replace these. So most PvPers that haven't been lucky to loot something omguber will have to sit down and do "carebear activities" every now and then. So every PvPer is also a carebear. There's PvPers that can afford being less uber because they are great at carebearing and make ****loads of ISK to learn PvP better. There's very uber PvPers that don't need to carebear much, 'cause they don't lose much.. Also means they're not that uber at carebearing and have to pay higher prices for their toys most of the time. There's no division between carebears and PvPers. We're all happy roidhugging NPC-loving agressive negotiating market playing undercutting cutthroats. Or something like that. </RABBLE RABBLE> ------------------------------------------ I am a love machine, feeding my fantasy, give me a kiss or three, have fun!
Lilan Kahn	Posted - 2005.08.30 20:02:00 - [17] carebearing pvpers 4tw Originally by: Eris Discordia We break after X amount of threads, then we go wild and then we get our medication.
reaTh	Posted - 2005.08.30 20:10:00 - [18] Originally by: Lilan Kahn carebearing pvpers 4tw zee dmz fleet 4tw ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
PaulAtreides	Posted - 2005.08.30 20:49:00 - [19] carebares are all industrialists, but not all industrialists are carebares.
Shamis Orzoz	Posted - 2005.08.30 21:02:00 - [20] Most good PvP'ers can still carebear better than the "carebears"
Bared Bel'Medar	Posted - 2005.08.30 21:13:00 - [21] Originally by: Harisdrop I have to mention that without Carebears your Alliance aint doo Mine you own roids. Buy your own BP I Would like all those carebears in those border regions start selling Battleships for 300million and HAC's should be 200million Interceptors should be 150million Assualt frigs 150million. your PVP corps will be sucking crokite with miner 1 and buying Trit for 10 isk each. Funny, every PvP corp I know is much more efficient with itsmembers getting end sto meet. Its this thing called dicipline. I am Jack's broken moral compass. STILL trapped in eve limbo. maybe not for much longer...
Death Merchant	Posted - 2005.08.30 21:17:00 - [22] Originally by: Shamis Orzoz Most good PvP'ers can still carebear better than the "carebears" quoted for truth
Mr Stargate	Posted - 2005.08.30 21:29:00 - [23] Originally by: Death Merchant Originally by: Shamis Orzoz Most good PvP'ers can still carebear better than the "carebears" quoted for truth the truth hurts ------------ EOG is Recruting Now <Click>
DigitalCommunist	Posted - 2005.08.30 23:08:00 - [24] You're a pretty funny guy, Harisdrop. Pretty damn funny. I suggest you read what Rod and Shamiz stated. Carebears and industrialists are not the same thing.. Perpetually driven, your end is our beginning.
Liu Kaskakka	Posted - 2005.08.30 23:33:00 - [25] If you don't stop these threats, I'll have to petition you Harisdrop. I'm sure the GMs won't appreciate your evil master plan!
Saladin	Posted - 2005.08.31 02:51:00 - [26] Edited by: Saladin on 31/08/2005 03:01:13 When clicking to view this post, I actually thought it would be promoting an interesting discussion on alliance internal policy and what not... I think the OP is saying that if empire carebears increase the price of goods, then alliances will have to mine 24/7 to acquire those goods. It doesn't work that way. Many alliances have a carebear contingent. Secondly, for T1 goods, most of the bpo's are available on market so carebears do not have a monopoly on it (assuming you can get everyone to set the same price) My personal experience is that active players who PvP frequently are also adept at resource gathering or making money. The difference between them and carebears is that they build up their supplies in a sustainable fashion and according to a plan. These supplies and resources are then put to use in wars and fights. Carebears on the other hand love to sit back and count their money and the objective is always to make more and more money. If we use RTS games as an analogy, the smart PvP'er is the one who knows where the spice/ore is, harvests it, produces units and attacks the enemy. The carebear just creates 20 harvesters and likes to see his reserves grow and grow. To make a long story sort, even if empire dwellers agreed on price fixing, 0.0 residents and PvP'ers will not be held hostage. They will improvise. ----
SengH	Posted - 2005.08.31 02:58:00 - [27] Originally by: Saladin When clicking to view this post, I actually thought it would be promoting an interesting discussion on alliance internal policy and what not... no offense but that would be expecting a bit too much from this forum
slip66	Posted - 2005.08.31 03:12:00 - [28] Originally by: Harisdrop Originally by: Rod Blaine You severely overestimate the dependency of 0.0 operating corporations on empire-only based corps. Someday carebears of 0.0 will hunt and wardec those carebears in Empire. We see that you are infringing our terittory. We 0.0 carebears must stop selling zyd and morphite to the empire carebears unless we do soo at 50k isk for morphite and 40k isk for Zydrine. Seems the balance has been lost and the real battles will be on the carebears of empire. The hunt is on and now the game of Eve has changed! bwahahha, like rod said. 0.0 corps are self sufficent.
Dianabolic	Posted - 2005.08.31 10:26:00 - [29] Originally by: Death Merchant Originally by: Shamis Orzoz Most good PvP'ers can still carebear better than the "carebears" quoted for truth Signed, can and do.
Discorporation	Posted - 2005.08.31 10:53:00 - [30] Carebear != miner. [23]

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