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Harisdrop
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Posted - 2005.08.30 17:31:00 -
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I have to mention that without Carebears your Alliance aint doo
Mine you own roids.
Buy your own BP
I Would like all those carebears in those border regions start selling Battleships for 300million and HAC's should be 200million Interceptors should be 150million Assualt frigs 150million.
your PVP corps will be sucking crokite with miner 1 and buying Trit for 10 isk each.
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Sku1ly
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Posted - 2005.08.30 17:32:00 -
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Great post.
A+++++++++.
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FalloutBoy
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Posted - 2005.08.30 17:33:00 -
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Edited by: FalloutBoy on 30/08/2005 17:32:52
thats fine I mine my own mins (Rat hunt) use corp bought BP0s, in 0.0 thier are no industrial pilots or pvp pilots were all 0.0 pilots and only the self sufficent survive
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Koth Krakenworth
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Posted - 2005.08.30 17:36:00 -
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I guess we'll just have to declare war on you all and kill you then. Order has to be kept, riots will be put down by force ;)
"It is a mistake to think you can solve any major problems just with potatoes."
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SengH
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Posted - 2005.08.30 17:40:00 -
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maybe someone forgot to mention to him that there are things called hauler spawns?
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Rod Blaine
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Posted - 2005.08.30 17:48:00 -
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You severely overestimate the dependency of 0.0 operating corporations on empire-only based corps.
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Harisdrop
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Posted - 2005.08.30 18:01:00 -
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 Originally by: Rod Blaine
You severely overestimate the dependency of 0.0 operating corporations on empire-only based corps.
Someday carebears of 0.0 will hunt and wardec those carebears in Empire. We see that you are infringing our terittory.
We 0.0 carebears must stop selling zyd and morphite to the empire carebears unless we do soo at 50k isk for morphite and 40k isk for Zydrine. Seems the balance has been lost and the real battles will be on the carebears of empire. The hunt is on and now the game of Eve has changed!
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MadGaz
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Posted - 2005.08.30 18:02:00 -
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David Corbett
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Posted - 2005.08.30 18:04:00 -
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I would have agreed with you, once upon a time. However, the fact is, in a 0.0 PvP corporation, there's more than a fair share of BPOs and people who can mine. Honestly, your plan wouldn't work.
Carebear activities, such as mining and building and hauling, make alliances. An organization of people who can only do that, however, do not.
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Harisdrop
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Posted - 2005.08.30 18:12:00 -
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Wars dont have to have a shot fired!
I never said acorp of carebears. I said "I have to mention that without Carebears your Alliance aint doo " I am in a great PVP corp there are maybe 3 of us out of 100 that are in the corp. Its not our corp that dissess us. Its more about the count of Kill mails and smack we endure in Alliance chat.
I promise you all have not seen the end of this convo. Please be warry as your alt little corp is mining when you have logged your pvp player since you cant PVP either!
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Joan Smith
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Posted - 2005.08.30 18:13:00 -
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empire need carebears
but
0.0 dont need carbears
imho
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siim
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Posted - 2005.08.30 18:15:00 -
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Originally by: Joan Smith
empire need carebears
but
0.0 dont need carbears
imho
it does.. where else u get high end minerals to build t2 stuff?
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Krapz
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Posted - 2005.08.30 18:41:00 -
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yawn. Everyone is a carebear in Eve. Hell, it's almost to the point where pirating is a carebear event. You make isk, you carebear. Carebears will never unite, because they always undercut each other getting more isk, or gouging the next guy. Why do you think we get THREE toons per acct?
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Xrak
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Posted - 2005.08.30 19:01:00 -
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FFS, people get a grip.
Carebears are people who avoid pvp as much as they can.
ok?
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Yolan
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Posted - 2005.08.30 19:09:00 -
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/emote checks skills
Mining 5
Refining 5
Refining Efficiency 5
Mining Barge 5
Gunnery 8mill SP
Alt with maxed out manufacturing skills
Alt than can fly freighters.
So remind me please why I will not be able to be a self sufficient PvP'r when your Empire Revolution takes place?
You really do fail to realise that virtually every single 0.0 corp/player has the means to be self sufficient if required, its part and parcel of 0.0 life.
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Waagaa Ktlehr
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Posted - 2005.08.30 19:17:00 -
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You know what's great about EVE?
In EVE, carebearing = PvPing, you are competing for selling your stuff with other people. PLAYER VS PLAYER.
In EVE, you lose ships, you really lose assets. you have to replace these. So most PvPers that haven't been lucky to loot something omguber will have to sit down and do "carebear activities" every now and then. So every PvPer is also a carebear.
There's PvPers that can afford being less uber because they are great at carebearing and make ****loads of ISK to learn PvP better.
There's very uber PvPers that don't need to carebear much, 'cause they don't lose much.. Also means they're not that uber at carebearing and have to pay higher prices for their toys most of the time.
There's no division between carebears and PvPers. We're all happy roidhugging NPC-loving agressive negotiating market playing undercutting cutthroats.
Or something like that.
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Lilan Kahn
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Posted - 2005.08.30 20:02:00 -
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carebearing pvpers 4tw
Originally by: Eris Discordia
We break after X amount of threads, then we go wild and then we get our medication.
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reaTh
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Posted - 2005.08.30 20:10:00 -
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Originally by: Lilan Kahn
carebearing pvpers 4tw
zee dmz fleet 4tw
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PaulAtreides
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Posted - 2005.08.30 20:49:00 -
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carebares are all industrialists, but not all industrialists are carebares.
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Shamis Orzoz
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Posted - 2005.08.30 21:02:00 -
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Most good PvP'ers can still carebear better than the "carebears"
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Bared Bel'Medar
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Posted - 2005.08.30 21:13:00 -
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Originally by: Harisdrop
I have to mention that without Carebears your Alliance aint doo
Mine you own roids.
Buy your own BP
I Would like all those carebears in those border regions start selling Battleships for 300million and HAC's should be 200million Interceptors should be 150million Assualt frigs 150million.
your PVP corps will be sucking crokite with miner 1 and buying Trit for 10 isk each.
Funny, every PvP corp I know is much more efficient with itsmembers getting end sto meet. Its this thing called dicipline.
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Death Merchant
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Posted - 2005.08.30 21:17:00 -
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Originally by: Shamis Orzoz
Most good PvP'ers can still carebear better than the "carebears"
quoted for truth
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Mr Stargate
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Posted - 2005.08.30 21:29:00 -
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Originally by: Death Merchant
Originally by: Shamis Orzoz
Most good PvP'ers can still carebear better than the "carebears"
quoted for truth
the truth hurts 
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DigitalCommunist
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Posted - 2005.08.30 23:08:00 -
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You're a pretty funny guy, Harisdrop. Pretty damn funny.
I suggest you read what Rod and Shamiz stated. Carebears and industrialists are not the same thing..
Perpetually driven, your end is our beginning.
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Liu Kaskakka
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Posted - 2005.08.30 23:33:00 -
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If you don't stop these threats, I'll have to petition you Harisdrop. I'm sure the GMs won't appreciate your evil master plan!
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Saladin
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Posted - 2005.08.31 02:51:00 -
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Edited by: Saladin on 31/08/2005 03:01:13
When clicking to view this post, I actually thought it would be promoting an interesting discussion on alliance internal policy and what not...
I think the OP is saying that if empire carebears increase the price of goods, then alliances will have to mine 24/7 to acquire those goods.
It doesn't work that way. Many alliances have a carebear contingent. Secondly, for T1 goods, most of the bpo's are available on market so carebears do not have a monopoly on it (assuming you can get everyone to set the same price)
My personal experience is that active players who PvP frequently are also adept at resource gathering or making money. The difference between them and carebears is that they build up their supplies in a sustainable fashion and according to a plan. These supplies and resources are then put to use in wars and fights. Carebears on the other hand love to sit back and count their money and the objective is always to make more and more money. If we use RTS games as an analogy, the smart PvP'er is the one who knows where the spice/ore is, harvests it, produces units and attacks the enemy. The carebear just creates 20 harvesters and likes to see his reserves grow and grow.
To make a long story sort, even if empire dwellers agreed on price fixing, 0.0 residents and PvP'ers will not be held hostage. They will improvise.
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SengH
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Posted - 2005.08.31 02:58:00 -
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Originally by: Saladin
When clicking to view this post, I actually thought it would be promoting an interesting discussion on alliance internal policy and what not...
no offense but that would be expecting a bit too much from this forum 
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slip66
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Posted - 2005.08.31 03:12:00 -
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Originally by: Harisdrop
Originally by: Rod Blaine
You severely overestimate the dependency of 0.0 operating corporations on empire-only based corps.
Someday carebears of 0.0 will hunt and wardec those carebears in Empire. We see that you are infringing our terittory.
We 0.0 carebears must stop selling zyd and morphite to the empire carebears unless we do soo at 50k isk for morphite and 40k isk for Zydrine. Seems the balance has been lost and the real battles will be on the carebears of empire. The hunt is on and now the game of Eve has changed!
bwahahha, like rod said. 0.0 corps are self sufficent.
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Dianabolic
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Posted - 2005.08.31 10:26:00 -
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Originally by: Death Merchant
Originally by: Shamis Orzoz
Most good PvP'ers can still carebear better than the "carebears"
quoted for truth
Signed, can and do.
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Discorporation
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Posted - 2005.08.31 10:53:00 -
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Carebear != miner.
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Golan Trevize
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Posted - 2005.08.31 11:12:00 -
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Edited by: Golan Trevize on 31/08/2005 11:12:35
Though it makes me feel dirty and abused , i do carebear.
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Seleene
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Posted - 2005.08.31 11:49:00 -
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Originally by: Golan Trevize
Though it makes me feel dirty and abused , i do carebear.
I'm going to make Golan fly a freighter soon. 
As for myself, I have no clue where to find good prices on advanced materials nor have I memorized the T2 components needed to build ten Zealots @ ME 5.. 
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Grimster
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Posted - 2005.08.31 11:57:00 -
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Originally by: Rod Blaine
You severely overestimate the dependency of 0.0 operating corporations on empire-only based corps.
This has to be the truest statement in thread....
Oh and the dmZ thing too. 
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Montero
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Posted - 2005.08.31 13:22:00 -
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Originally by: Dianabolic
Originally by: Death Merchant
Originally by: Shamis Orzoz
Most good PvP'ers can still carebear better than the "carebears"
quoted for truth
Signed, can and do.
you havent lived till you've seen pvpers carebear. imagine a precision fleet op with barges and haulers. it's actually quite ***.
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Carvas
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Posted - 2005.08.31 13:35:00 -
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PvP run mining ops are great, you've got a huge fleet of ships running security for the miners and you KNOW they know what they're doing... awesome fun.
Unfortunately the attitude still gets out of hand, which causes friction between the more dedicated PvPers and the heavy duty miners. My corp left our alliance because we were sick of the constant whining from the PvP machines that the noob mining corps wouldn't take their T1 frigates into 0.0 to run security on an ice mining op. The smack talk in alliance against our own members was ridiculous.
I'm a miner, but i can put a PvP rig together if needed, but their are limits.
Calling an entire corp "Useless F******" in alliance chat because they can't mine ice or fly anything that can survive in 0.0 is just idiotic. These guys were about 3 weeks into the game and skilling up frantically to get out their with the rest of us, but thats just not good enough to the PvP Ego's.
As far as i know the noob corp left the Alliance shortly after our disgusted CEO hit the /allyquit button 
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Velios
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Posted - 2005.08.31 13:53:00 -
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Carebears inside alliances destroy alliances.
ò They are Greedy
ò They sit watching their fat wallets grow while everyone fights for them.
ò They think they need 30 billion isk in their wallets before they can step up and help out.
ò They are often the first to speak up when they get ganked and start blaming everyone else.
ò And loads of other things too...
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Nytemaster
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Posted - 2005.08.31 21:29:00 -
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Harisdrop,
Instead of posting that you are a 0.0 carebear and that you are in a great PvP corp, maybe just once you (or you and your corp mates, whatever) would take me on in Placid (which is really where you spend most of your time) instead of running or hiding in stations. It's not like I don't have a -7.5 security status or anything.
PS Please don't say you are a 0.0 carebear unless you actually spend more time in 0.0. Low sec empire is not 0.0.
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ezzle
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Posted - 2005.09.01 00:50:00 -
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Originally by: Harisdrop
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Someday carebears of 0.0 will hunt and wardec those carebears in Empire.
Best idea, ever!
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