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Thor Darkwing
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Posted - 2005.08.30 20:46:00 -
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Both with med and low filled with armortanks.
gunnery ("sub"-skills, like motion pro, surgical and so on)
lvl4-5
Launcher sub-skills
lvl3-4
Apoc:
7x mega pulse t2
1x 'arbalest' cruise
Nightmare
4x mega pulse t2
4x 'arbalest' cruise
witch one would put out the highest dmg agains a avarage lvl4 mission spawn?
and how would the dmg look when you change the arbalest for t2?
thanks
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Mallik Hendrake
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Posted - 2005.08.30 21:04:00 -
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Because of differences in rat resistances, the Apoc is really only uber-practical for Blood raiders/Sansha rats, as without damage mods you're gonna be spending a while busting the tank of a 2mil Gurista BS for instance.
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HippoKing
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Posted - 2005.08.30 21:25:00 -
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first, cruise missiles do a lot less DPS than torps
second, u are no fitting ANY damage mods 
third, the ROF is the same for t2 launchers as arbies if u have the same skill lvls, so the only DPS change is how the reload time affects damage (t2 have larger clips - although i think this is bugged atm. whatever,in the next patch, t2 will have larger clips)
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Velic
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Posted - 2005.08.30 21:30:00 -
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T2 launcher specalization skill is sapose to improve the ROF on T2 launchers making their DPS better then arbalest, weither those bonuses per speacalization lvl are working is unknown to me.
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Douglas McCracken
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Posted - 2005.08.30 21:33:00 -
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Edited by: Douglas Mc*****en on 30/08/2005 21:37:25
 Originally by: Velic
T2 launcher specalization skill is sapose to improve the ROF on T2 launchers making their DPS better then arbalest, weither those bonuses per speacalization lvl are working is unknown to me.
this is bugged at the moment, the skill effects named launchers too.. as for dps hmm i think the nightmare would probibly edge it.
Also im sure the nightmare would make an uber armour tank since it has so much and also an extra low slot over the apoc.
Finally the nightmare lacks cpu so i dont think torps are are an option without nerfing the tanking ability
Think its the ship i want to fly, just need 1.5bil 
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Fred Flintstone
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Posted - 2005.08.31 01:25:00 -
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Stick too the Apoc for npcing 
I got both and still using my apoc. If you want xtra slots and armor, buy a Navy Apoc. That baby will be even better for hunting 
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Thor Darkwing
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Posted - 2005.08.31 05:01:00 -
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Originally by: Fred Flintstone
Stick too the Apoc for npcing
I got both and still using my apoc. If you want xtra slots and armor, buy a Navy Apoc. That baby will be even better for hunting
ya, first i thought i'd go for a navy apoc.... but that ship doesn't look as cool=)
so what i want in a ship:
-great armortank
-decent dmg output
-good looks
-preferably amarr/gallente mix (witch doesn't exist) since i'm more armor,drone and laser speced (but missils skills might be something to go for after i get the large t2 lasers)
And i won't be PvPing or going .0 in the ship, just empire hunting.
doing mainly angel lvl4 missions (well and lvl3 with the ishtar for change sometimes) and these missins can just as easily be done in a dominix, so just need a abit diffrent and nice looking ship. but if the nightmare hade really lower dmg output then the apoc it might be abit unnecissary to spend all cash on one
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Douglas McCracken
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Posted - 2005.08.31 07:20:00 -
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to be honest id save my cash and go with the apoc..
Also theres always the bhhallgorn, that has some sweet bonusus and can web from up to 50k with a gotans webby, droool 
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Marskalkur
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Posted - 2005.08.31 08:22:00 -
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nigthmare has more firepower then a apoc, hands down.
I've got a Nightmare and been using it a bit for npc hunting... just to get the feel of it. it's got ok firepower with good skills.
it's slow and has a huge sig radus, low cpu output, small capacitor and is well overrated as an "uber tank"
imo the extra armor is just a minor "buffer zone" since it's got such a small capacitor for a faction BS.
I'm back in my apoc.
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Thor Darkwing
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Posted - 2005.08.31 09:42:00 -
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Originally by: Douglas Mc*****en
to be honest id save my cash and go with the apoc..
Also theres always the bhhallgorn, that has some sweet bonusus and can web from up to 50k with a gotans webby, droool
heh, ya the bhaal seems nice aswell, but the bonuses seems better for a pvper and not a carebeer like me=)
hmm.. maybe i should skip the good looks and go gor a navy apoc insteed, but the race faction ships doesn't seem to get as good bonuses.
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Arleonenis
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Posted - 2005.08.31 10:29:00 -
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nightmare looks sweeeet, why the point of heaving slightly stronger ship (navy apoc) when you could sit in one that looks so nice? its more a fashion than a power. For pure destructive power get a machariel with full set of 1400 TII or vindicator.
And hmmm im wondering how tII large cap battery would work for nightmare
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mimik
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Posted - 2005.08.31 12:07:00 -
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Edited by: mimik on 31/08/2005 12:07:09
hard to answer the question without factoring in range.
up close i would think that the apoc with a full rack of megapulses would be better.
obviously as u get farther out and have to go to lower damage crystals the output from megapulses goes down so the 4 cruise would then probably overtake having the extra guns.
i haven't looked at fitting too closely on nightmare as only having 4 turrets spots for a ship that is an amarr hybrid and used by sanshas seems a bit strange to me and has put me off getting one. but i would be tempted to take advantage of the range u get from cruise and go with megabeams or tachs rather than pulses.
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Oberon Oblique
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Posted - 2005.08.31 16:16:00 -
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For lvl4 non-deadspace the apoc will rule.
8x megabeams
1x sensorbooster
3x tracking comp
8x Hs's
kill at 120k all day long with 400-500 dps.
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