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Helios Epimanes
In Exile. Imperial Outlaws.
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Posted - 2013.03.28 23:56:00 -
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Defying wrote:Alrighty, first night in the Amarr militia and I was met by nothing but assholes. I have pretty thick skin but holy ****. Ah well, nothings changes when you first join. You are a SPAI for 2 weeks then you get access to the intel channel and then 2 weeks later you see your first fleet.
ROFL Did it get any better since you joined In Exile? I was also greeted by assholes in the Militia channel (which I now mostly ignore), but things got a lot better when I joined a corp and started to deal with other organized corps.
Concerning your desire to FC, I'm pretty sure most In Exile members would be more than happy to join you if you call a fleet when things are getting quiet. Members of the other big corps in the area (Fweddit and others) would probably be happy to join as well once they recognize your name, since we often fly with them.
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Defying
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.03.30 02:15:00 -
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Helios Epimanes wrote:Defying wrote:Alrighty, first night in the Amarr militia and I was met by nothing but assholes. I have pretty thick skin but holy ****. Ah well, nothings changes when you first join. You are a SPAI for 2 weeks then you get access to the intel channel and then 2 weeks later you see your first fleet.
ROFL Did it get any better since you joined In Exile? I was also greeted by assholes in the Militia channel (which I now mostly ignore), but things got a lot better when I joined a corp and started to deal with other organized corps. Concerning your desire to FC, I'm pretty sure most In Exile members would be more than happy to join you if you call a fleet when things are getting quiet. Members of the other big corps in the area (Fweddit and others) would probably be happy to join as well once they recognize your name, since we often fly with them. Cheers
In Exile. is a great Corp with great people. In my few days with the Amarr militia I see things have changed dramatically since I last was here. In the US TZ the Amarr seem to have it down packed with FCs, and overall dominance as we seemed to be fighting pirates more then the Minnie militia in this TZ.
Heres my question- Which militia is in need of FCs in the USTZ, and/or are there any FW pvp Corporations out there looking for an FC to help show their pilots a good time, and get some kills? I dont care what militia it is, if I can fly with some cool people, and get an opportunity to dust my shoulders off/ show my stuff I'll be happy.
Thanks everyone! |
Erredent
Fire f0r Effect
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Posted - 2013.03.30 13:03:00 -
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Defying wrote:Alrighty, first night in the Amarr militia and I was met by nothing but assholes. I have pretty thick skin but holy ****. Ah well, nothings changes when you first join. You are a SPAI for 2 weeks then you get access to the intel channel and then 2 weeks later you see your first fleet.
ROFL
I had the opposite experience yesterday with my week old alt who had been in the militia for 12h. Hopped into a fleet, got on comms, helped pop a couple billion in pirate ships. Had a great time with some fun people!
Only shot one minni militia ship the whole time and for WZ control of course it did nothing, but it was lots of fun. |
Veshta Yoshida
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
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Posted - 2013.03.30 23:36:00 -
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Ginger Barbarella wrote:Zarnak Wulf wrote:1) Amarr morale is high and we're not fail cascading. I'm amazed you can say that with a straight face. The map is almost ENTIRELY red (ie, Minmatar). I think the numbers argument is lame; the problem is lack of leadership and gangs that aren't seriously fail. And yes, I have an alt currently in the 24th doing offensive plexing in Minnie space. You must not be keeping up with current affairs. A militia can dominate space and get ten times as many mails as the enemy, yet have close to zero systems. Territorial control is entirely determined by which side the locust swarm of farmers is currently nesting in .. recent Amarr drop from ~40 systems to 7 happened in about three weeks with no decrease in general activity or mail generation.
That is what we hapless few have been trying to make people understand since LP-for-everything was presented at that fateful FF and more are joining out struggle with each passing day as the current state of affairs is evidently .. how to put it mildly: lacking. PvE controlling PvP just doesn't work, unless the goal is to turn PvP'ers into PvE'ers.
That answer the OP as well. There are no underdogs per se as the locusts rotate their crops like proper educated farmers. Look around the militias, talk to folks, investigate the TZ splits and decide if a given group is FC'able when you are available .. both fronts have several systems that can have non-stop action and all militias have good pilots (and utterly horrible, YMMV ).
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Crosi Wesdo
War and Order
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Posted - 2013.03.31 01:48:00 -
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Veshta Yoshida wrote:Ginger Barbarella wrote:Zarnak Wulf wrote:1) Amarr morale is high and we're not fail cascading. I'm amazed you can say that with a straight face. The map is almost ENTIRELY red (ie, Minmatar). I think the numbers argument is lame; the problem is lack of leadership and gangs that aren't seriously fail. And yes, I have an alt currently in the 24th doing offensive plexing in Minnie space. You must not be keeping up with current affairs. A militia can dominate space and get ten times as many mails as the enemy, yet have close to zero systems. Territorial control is entirely determined by which side the locust swarm of farmers is currently nesting in .. recent Amarr drop from ~40 systems to 7 happened in about three weeks with no decrease in general activity or mail generation. That is what we hapless few have been trying to make people understand since LP-for-everything was presented at that fateful FF and more are joining out struggle with each passing day as the current state of affairs is evidently .. how to put it mildly: lacking. PvE controlling PvP just doesn't work, unless the goal is to turn PvP'ers into PvE'ers. That answer the OP as well. There are no underdogs per se as the locusts rotate their crops like proper educated farmers. Look around the militias, talk to folks, investigate the TZ splits and decide if a given group is FC'able when you are available .. both fronts have several systems that can have non-stop action and all militias have good pilots (and utterly horrible, YMMV ).
I understand. I just hope you saved your LP for these times ahead. As navy geddon prices inflate, the dynamic of the current FW shouldnt seem so bad. |
Rioghal Morgan
Full Artificial Intelligence
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Posted - 2013.03.31 18:32:00 -
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Defying wrote:
In Exile. is a great Corp with great people. In my few days with the Amarr militia I see things have changed dramatically since I last was here. In the US TZ the Amarr seem to have it down packed with FCs, and overall dominance as we seemed to be fighting pirates more then the Minnie militia in this TZ.
Heres my question- Which militia is in need of FCs in the USTZ, and/or are there any FW pvp Corporations out there looking for an FC to help show their pilots a good time, and get some kills? I dont care what militia it is, if I can fly with some cool people, and get an opportunity to dust my shoulders off/ show my stuff I'll be happy.
Thanks everyone!
I don't know what your standings are with the Minmatar after being in both the Caldari and Amarr militias but as far as I can tell, there's a marked lack of good FCs many days during US primetime. I can only think of about 5-6 good FCs I've flown with since joining up and as you can imagine, that's not really enough to cover all the bases.
If you're worried about the inevitable spai accusations, I've had great experiences with newer pilots. We tend not to be all embittered and suspicious yet. Not sure if that interests you but it certainly helps get past the initial distrust phase. |
2manno Asp
The Imperial Fedaykin Amarrian Commandos
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Posted - 2013.04.01 13:34:00 -
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Zarnak Wulf wrote:Fail cascade is when there are only 38 pilots in your militia channel. I've been there for that. And that is not the case now. Amarr is very strong in the US TZ. It is well led in the US TZ. We need more people and organization in the Euro TZ.
i was there when there were only 9. the good news is that when #'s are that low, you're talking about people that want to be there.
we may lose every system, but minnies will still be shot regardless, and survivors will still be shot again. |
2manno Asp
The Imperial Fedaykin Amarrian Commandos
186
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Posted - 2013.04.01 13:43:00 -
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Taoist Dragon wrote:I've found that the Amarr militia like their pvp way way way more than they like plexing.
This is the underlying reason why they are losing the warzone. Minmatar have huge numbers of plexers in their ranks.
spot on. |
Cearain
Black Dragon Fighting Society The Devil's Tattoo
857
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Posted - 2013.04.01 20:40:00 -
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Milton Middleson wrote:Taoist Dragon wrote:
Lack of focus on plexing and more about pvp'ing
This is bullshit that gets trotted out by the Amarr (and, to a much lesser extent, some Caldari) whenever they're losing hard at WZ control. .
And the gallente when they lost space. It gets trotted out because its true. FW sov never was about pvp.
The minmatar just whined that they couldn't get lp after they farmed all the systems, but hans fixed that for them.
Milton Middleson wrote: There is certainly no shortage of Amarr miltia members plexing, nor is there a lack of Minmatar corps that are apathetic to the state of the warzone beyond their immediate backyard. .
Actually if amarr had just as many plexers they would be doing better in the sov war. Its not like minmatar are so good the timers run faster. You just have a much larger number of farmers.
Milton Middleson wrote: Plexing near a major militia hub is a pretty solid way to get a small fight, and there is a substantial overlap between top killers and top VP scorers. .
Surely you are kidding. Look at the daily top vp gainers and then look at their killboards for that day.
Make faction war occupancy pvp instead of pve https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=53815&#post53815
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Flyinghotpocket
Amarrian Vengeance 24eme Legion Etrangere
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Posted - 2013.04.01 22:55:00 -
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Milton Middleson wrote:All the Amarr need to do is go roam than two jumps from their home systems.
except the half of amarr that live in sahtogas, and basically fight 7 or 8 jumps away from there home all the time |
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Dan Carter Murray
398
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Posted - 2013.04.02 03:09:00 -
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Flyinghotpocket wrote:Milton Middleson wrote:All the Amarr need to do is go roam than two jumps from their home systems. except the half of amarr that live in sahtogas, and basically fight 7 or 8 jumps away from there home all the time
no one ever said any mintards knew wtf they were talking about IF YOU DON'T FLY AMARR THEN YOU DON'T LIKE A CHALLENGE SO GET ******
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Gritz1
Ice Fire Warriors Late Night Alliance
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Posted - 2013.04.02 18:32:00 -
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Flyinghotpocket wrote:Milton Middleson wrote:All the Amarr need to do is go roam than two jumps from their home systems. except the half of amarr that live in sahtogas, and basically fight 7 or 8 jumps away from there home all the time
Your own fault for living in the middle of no where. |
Milton Middleson
Rifterlings Point Blank Alliance
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Posted - 2013.04.03 00:21:00 -
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Flyinghotpocket wrote:Milton Middleson wrote:All the Amarr need to do is go roam than two jumps from their home systems. except the half of amarr that live in sahtogas, and basically fight 7 or 8 jumps away from there home all the time
70% of Amarr 7th's kills in March were within two jumps of Sahtogas (60% within one). 75% were within one jump of either Kam or Sahtogas. Your alliance comes off a little better - only 60% of your kills in the last month were within one jump of Kamela or Sahtogas. But then, you only moved there halfway through the month after getting evicted from your previous residency, so I suppose that's not especially impressive after all.
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Predator Elite
Death By Design Amarrian Commandos
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Posted - 2013.04.03 00:44:00 -
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Bottom line is that Amarr Militia has plenty of FC's that run fleets and like combat. I'll be the first to tell you that we have barely anything to shoot at, hell we fight neutral gangs then minmatar militia fleets, feel free to check the KB to get your proof. |
Veshta Yoshida
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
558
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Posted - 2013.04.03 09:33:00 -
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Milton Middleson wrote:Flyinghotpocket wrote:Milton Middleson wrote:All the Amarr need to do is go roam than two jumps from their home systems. except the half of amarr that live in sahtogas, and basically fight 7 or 8 jumps away from there home all the time 70% of Amarr 7th's kills in March were within two jumps of Sahtogas (60% within one). 75% were within one jump of either Kam or Sahtogas. Your alliance comes off a little better - only 60% of your kills in the last month were within one jump of Kamela or Sahtogas. But then, you only moved there halfway through the month after getting evicted from your previous residency, so I suppose that's not especially impressive after all. Want to bet the same pattern can be seen elsewhere? HQ systems and the connecting corridors have always been the most active areas, reason for the Amarr numbers being so high is probably due to the limited amount of systems available and the ability to dock/reship that entails.
Note: The same pattern existed pre-docking-denial change (still had to reship!), all that change did was to force the issue thereby increasing the amount of action in those areas.
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Loki Vice
Fweddit Fweight
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Posted - 2013.04.03 15:52:00 -
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Milton Middleson wrote:All the Amarr need to do is go roam than two jumps from their home systems.
Why? we have a video of you guys docking up? why go out and experience what we've seen time and time again? we have other things to do for fun |
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