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Cypha
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Posted - 2005.08.31 04:55:00 -
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I would just like to ask that all denizens of EVE please keep the victims of this horrific hurricane in their hearts and minds. I experienced Hurricane Katrina, in South Florida, over this past weekend when it was only a category 1 hurricane. Earlier this week it slammed into several gulf Coast states as a Category 5 behemoth. If your interested in seeing some pictures or reading some stories of the victims try www.foxnews.com or www.cnn.com and may God bless them all...
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Baldour Ngarr
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Posted - 2005.08.31 05:57:00 -
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If this is the same God who caused the hurricane to kill 80-odd people in the first place, then the victims might be better off without him.
Besides, religion isn't supposed to come up on these boards.  __________________________________________ I tried strip mining, but I lost; and it's cold flying around in space naked. |

Darzerb
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Posted - 2005.08.31 07:06:00 -
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Originally by: Baldour Ngarr If this is the same God who caused the hurricane to kill 80-odd people in the first place, then the victims might be better off without him.
Besides, religion isn't supposed to come up on these boards. 
He says "God bless them all", and you respond with that ****? How pathetic. ------------------
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Baldour Ngarr
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Posted - 2005.08.31 08:47:00 -
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If you've found a flaw in my reasoning, please point it out. Just calling it pathetic isn't really helping. __________________________________________ I tried strip mining, but I lost; and it's cold flying around in space naked. |

Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2005.08.31 08:52:00 -
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Weren't these residents given 3 days warning and advised to evacuate?
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MAXSuicide
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Posted - 2005.08.31 10:38:00 -
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Originally by: Joshua Calvert Weren't these residents given 3 days warning and advised to evacuate?
yes.
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Cypha
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Posted - 2005.08.31 11:04:00 -
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Yes, Joshua but many either couldn't leave in time, refused to leave their homes and or loved ones behind or simply didn't own an automobile. I remember seeing a news report stating that like 28% of the Louisiana citizens were at or below poverty level. If I were put in that situation I think it would be very hard for me to leave my home and all my belongings behind to the mercy of mother nature and looters...
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Kaemonn

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Posted - 2005.08.31 12:50:00 -
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Thread cleaned up a bit. Im going to allow this as long as no discussion about religion comes up. Also www.msnbc.com has a large collection of pictures and video from the aftermath also.
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jbob2000
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Posted - 2005.08.31 14:36:00 -
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Originally by: Cypha Yes, Joshua but many either couldn't leave in time, refused to leave their homes and or loved ones behind or simply didn't own an automobile. I remember seeing a news report stating that like 28% of the Louisiana citizens were at or below poverty level. If I were put in that situation I think it would be very hard for me to leave my home and all my belongings behind to the mercy of mother nature and looters...
Well its that or death...
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Uglious
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Posted - 2005.08.31 15:27:00 -
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Originally by: jbob2000
Originally by: Cypha Yes, Joshua but many either couldn't leave in time, refused to leave their homes and or loved ones behind or simply didn't own an automobile. I remember seeing a news report stating that like 28% of the Louisiana citizens were at or below poverty level. If I were put in that situation I think it would be very hard for me to leave my home and all my belongings behind to the mercy of mother nature and looters...
Well its that or death...
First off, the mayor of New Orleans didn't order the evacuations until **Sunday** Aug 28, leaving many people unaware that anything was even happening, remember, they were in poverty, many probably didn't have a TV (and didn't watch the news), and didn't go to their job that day because it was Sunday. By the time many of those people found out what was happening, it was too late. At that point, a huge portion of those left went to the superdome and other shelters, and while they were able to ride out the storm, they are now in a very dire situation. On top of this, because New Orleans has always dodged the bullet before, many people were lulled into a false sense of security that they could ride it out. They were wrong, but it doesn't mean you should be crass about it.
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HUGO DRAX
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Posted - 2005.09.01 03:26:00 -
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A friend of mines in the national guard told me the reason for the extended chaos is there is not enough NG right now that they can deploy to provide aid. Sad.
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Alejandro Zapata
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Posted - 2005.09.01 06:21:00 -
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Kudos to the Coast Guard, saved 1200 peeps in the hours shortly after the hurricane hit, and sure many more to be saved in the hours to come.
Brave SOBs plucking people from roof tops.
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Saladin
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Posted - 2005.09.01 11:02:00 -
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I recall the flooding in Mozambique a few years ago, and at the time we saw images of pregnant women giving birth in trees high up the flood waters. At the time the world community was furious the superpowers did not provide aid fast enough.
Seeing the events in the past few days was a sobering one. Perhaps people were far too judgemental in the past, because even the US is struggling to help its own citizens now.
With regards to those who stayed behind... The order to evacuate was given on sunday and the storm hit monday morning. There are people without cars and without anywhere to go. They had no choice but to simply ride it out. Sure there were people who thought "I survived Camille, I can survive this...", but those I believe are the minority.
I expected to see people break into stores and comandeer food and water, but the theft of tv's, guns, sneakers and other items is deplorable. The fact that the NOPD had to be stop search and rescue and focus on the looters is horrific. I hope they are tried to the fullest extent of the law. ----
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Jernau Gurgeh
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Posted - 2005.09.01 12:46:00 -
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Originally by: HUGO DRAX A friend of mines in the national guard told me the reason for the extended chaos is there is not enough NG right now that they can deploy to provide aid. Sad.
3000 soldiers from each of the Louisiana and Missisippi NGs (35-40% of the total I hear) are currently serving in Iraq.
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Zyyrus
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Posted - 2005.09.01 13:06:00 -
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call me cold hearted but everytime the americans let stuff like this happen without learnin anything or doing anything about i hate them even more, like suome sadi earlyer they keep building wooden houses in hurricane areas, no lessons are being learned ----------------------------------------------
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Menelak Faf
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Posted - 2005.09.01 13:12:00 -
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Edited by: Menelak Faf on 01/09/2005 13:15:54 nevermind
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Cypha
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Posted - 2005.09.01 14:10:00 -
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Originally by: Zyyrus call me cold hearted but everytime the americans let stuff like this happen without learnin anything or doing anything about i hate them even more, like suome sadi earlyer they keep building wooden houses in hurricane areas, no lessons are being learned
Considering your proclamation about "hating Americans even more" I can think of a whole host of other colorful things to call you. I didn't start this thread to hear people bash the US, I started it to shed some light on a tragedy that has befallen a large amount people. When will people stop distinguishing each other by race, color and nationality and start seeing each other for whom we really are, Human Beings sharing the same planet.
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Blaaze
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Posted - 2005.09.01 14:24:00 -
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Edited by: Blaaze on 01/09/2005 14:26:10 Yesterday I've seen policewomen robbing in stores on tv. 
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Regat Kozovv
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Posted - 2005.09.01 14:38:00 -
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Originally by: Zyyrus call me cold hearted but everytime the americans let stuff like this happen without learnin anything or doing anything about i hate them even more, like suome sadi earlyer they keep building wooden houses in hurricane areas, no lessons are being learned
What is wrong with you???
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PhybreOptyk
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Posted - 2005.09.01 14:48:00 -
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Originally by: Zyyrus call me cold hearted but everytime the americans let stuff like this happen without learnin anything or doing anything about i hate them even more, like suome sadi earlyer they keep building wooden houses in hurricane areas, no lessons are being learned
You have issues.
My father and I together donated $250 to help as I live in south Florida and was hit by 2 hurricanes in three weeks last year. Half the states in the country came to help us when we needed it. Katrina made my situation last year look like just another rainy day. To those who live in the impacted area, our hearts are with you.
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Cypha
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Posted - 2005.09.01 14:50:00 -
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Phybre, what part of South Florida? Miami here.
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Regat Kozovv
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Posted - 2005.09.01 15:10:00 -
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Originally by: Alejandro Zapata Kudos to the Coast Guard, saved 1200 peeps in the hours shortly after the hurricane hit, and sure many more to be saved in the hours to come.
Brave SOBs plucking people from roof tops.
If you, or anyone else has read "The Perfect Storm", you'll find some interesting stuff about the USCG. For one example, their divers are some of the most highly trained in the world, and often recieve better dive training than Navy SEALS. Hardcore they are...
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Hakera
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Posted - 2005.09.01 15:14:00 -
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From an environmental point of view, extreme weather events are only going to become more frequent. I did think the response to the storm was a bit daft, people were told to leave 3 days beforehand and decided not to (well 80% did afaik) and then they boarded them up in a huge uncomfortable stadium with an aluminium roof. Not the brightest idea, but I hope people will be ok once the looting settles down and the waters recede.
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slip66
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Posted - 2005.09.01 16:07:00 -
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Originally by: EVENFLOW Its a horrible disaster, that's for sure.
All I know is if turned the tv on and a catagory 5 was going to slam into my house, i'd be headed far inland long before it got there.
A great majority did heed the warnings. There are millions in the city and area. Out of millions there are only 100,000's +/- left. So many did what they were told to do.
The other problem is, yes everyone knows there is a hurricane out there but you usually dont know it's final destination untill the day before or less.
The whole gulf coast has had a number of hurricanes lately. After so many they before they have become over confident that they will be ok since the last time they were fine.
many are stubron, stupid, elderly, poor, in ill health or were stuck for other reasons....
its very sad.
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slip66
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Posted - 2005.09.01 16:14:00 -
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Originally by: Regat Kozovv
Originally by: Alejandro Zapata Kudos to the Coast Guard, saved 1200 peeps in the hours shortly after the hurricane hit, and sure many more to be saved in the hours to come.
Brave SOBs plucking people from roof tops.
If you, or anyone else has read "The Perfect Storm", you'll find some interesting stuff about the USCG. For one example, their divers are some of the most highly trained in the world, and often recieve better dive training than Navy SEALS. Hardcore they are...
I and many of my corp mates are in the coast guard.
I am happy to see the our guys out doing what they do everyday all of the country. I am even more proud since many of these guys themselves have lost thier homes aswell. There are many coasties who are STILL unaccounted for themselves. Yet the go out and do what has to be done. There more then jsut what you see on tv ( helicopter crews) there TONS of coast guard cutters and small boats out trying to help out.
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Flyyn
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Posted - 2005.09.01 16:33:00 -
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The scumm of New Orleans are now shooting at the S.A.R helecopters. Maybe sombody ought to inform them it only takes 30 mins to convert a S.A.R to C.S.A.R?
S.A.R = Search and Rescue C.S.A.R = Combat Search And Rescue.
To the ones that went where they were suppose to, we should help out anyway possible.
To the ones that stayed so they could loot their local Wal-Mart....They are going to die if they dont get out of that area, are they that stupid?
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Troezar
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Posted - 2005.09.01 17:01:00 -
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Just saw on BBC news that in some places petrol (gas) is up to $6.07 a gallon, that must hurt if you're not used to the high prices we have in the UK.
Hopefully the news will start to show more instances of "we" rather than "me" that seem to be being screened atm.
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Gift
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Posted - 2005.09.01 17:25:00 -
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Originally by: Zyyrus call me cold hearted but everytime the americans let stuff like this happen without learnin anything or doing anything about i hate them even more, like suome sadi earlyer they keep building wooden houses in hurricane areas, no lessons are being learned
How dare those people living the only housing they could afford LET that hurricane destroy everything they had.
You may think your cold hearted but really your just an ignorant bigot.
Best wishes to those who've suffered.
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Vince Draken
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Posted - 2005.09.01 17:33:00 -
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Edited by: Vince Draken on 01/09/2005 17:39:17 Most of the ppl that are/were left there we there because they couldnt get out. New Orleans has a large amount of poor ppl who live there. To suggest they stayed to loot Walmart is just so ignorant, I feel sorry for you.
To those questioning the housing materials, let me ask this. WTF does it matter if your house is made from teak wood or cast iron if it's 20-30 underwater?
Today I can honestly say I am sad to be an american.
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Richard Cheney
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Posted - 2005.09.01 17:34:00 -
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Where's the Donation link like they had for the Tsunami?
I will make no comment in regards to the American Haters. Just makes my blood boil. You can hate and American Administration but not American poeple.. God bless all those effected by this. God bless everyone for that matter
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