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aggro
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Posted - 2005.08.31 20:18:00 -
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as the warp speed of of a frieghter is so slow even a hauler would be able to login and get to the gate before the frieghter came out of warp, espically on a long warp.
As stated being proud of a log intrap is so limpwristed and goes against the spirit of this good game.
Where there is trouble you will always find AGGRO |
nync
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Posted - 2005.08.31 20:19:00 -
[2]
 Originally by: StiZum Hilidii
Edited by: StiZum Hilidii on 31/08/2005 19:56:10
so your basically admiting you did a login trap and your annoyed that ccp dont like this?
oh and 5 admit defeat when it is handed to them. you did a login trap
well done you.
Doesnt get respect from any one.
Well, when [5] are using this tactics, then only answer u can get from gm's is sorry for ur loss, but we can't find any evidence of illegal tactics and so on and bla bla bla... When [5] complain about others doing this, even if it never happened, they get everything reimburst straigh away.
and by the way, one of the guys in killmail for obelisk was online all the time! I was chatting with him for a while before and after he killed this bloody freighter. And I'm ready to post chat log or request to do this from gm's, so don't try to accuse them of using login trap1
kill is a kill.
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Krapz
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Posted - 2005.08.31 20:20:00 -
[3]
Originally by: nync
Originally by: StiZum Hilidii
Edited by: StiZum Hilidii on 31/08/2005 19:56:10
so your basically admiting you did a login trap and your annoyed that ccp dont like this?
oh and 5 admit defeat when it is handed to them. you did a login trap
well done you.
Doesnt get respect from any one.
Well, when [5] are using this tactics, then only answer u can get from gm's is sorry for ur loss, but we can't find any evidence of illegal tactics and so on and bla bla bla... When [5] complain about others doing this, even if it never happened, they get everything reimburst straigh away.
and by the way, one of the guys in killmail for obelisk was online all the time! I was chatting with him for a while before and after he killed this bloody freighter. And I'm ready to post chat log or request to do this from gm's, so don't try to accuse them of using login trap1
kill is a kill.
I think they call those "scouts".
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Kickass
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Posted - 2005.08.31 20:21:00 -
[4]
Nice kill 
To all the griefers, there is no such thing as a log on or log of exploit. This was the answer we had gotten from several GM's, so there you have it.
Once again nice kill...
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Nafri
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Posted - 2005.08.31 20:21:00 -
[5]
Originally by: nync
Originally by: StiZum Hilidii
Edited by: StiZum Hilidii on 31/08/2005 19:56:10
so your basically admiting you did a login trap and your annoyed that ccp dont like this?
oh and 5 admit defeat when it is handed to them. you did a login trap
well done you.
Doesnt get respect from any one.
Well, when [5] are using this tactics, then only answer u can get from gm's is sorry for ur loss, but we can't find any evidence of illegal tactics and so on and bla bla bla... When [5] complain about others doing this, even if it never happened, they get everything reimburst straigh away.
and by the way, one of the guys in killmail for obelisk was online all the time! I was chatting with him for a while before and after he killed this bloody freighter. And I'm ready to post chat log or request to do this from gm's, so don't try to accuse them of using login trap1
kill is a kill.
as I understood thy just petitioned it, would have done the same, although its clear thy wont get it back. But at least you should/would try it too.
So no need for anger atm. Time will tell us if this an exploit or not
Your bla bla hit bla bla for bla bla damage. Wanna have some bubu now? |
The Enslaver
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Posted - 2005.08.31 20:21:00 -
[6]
Originally by: Elenia Kheynes
So... CCP can't proove there is a login trap. If they do proove it, they will have to handle all petitions concerning this... a little bit problematic since they can't proove them isn't it ?
Actually, all the proof that was needed was in them admitting that it was a login trap.
Nice way to shoot yourself in the foot.
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Nafri
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Posted - 2005.08.31 20:22:00 -
[7]
Originally by: The Enslaver
Originally by: Elenia Kheynes
So... CCP can't proove there is a login trap. If they do proove it, they will have to handle all petitions concerning this... a little bit problematic since they can't proove them isn't it ?
Actually, all the proof that was needed was in them admitting that it was a login trap.
Nice way to shoot yourself in the foot.
Nooope, cause if you would face such things more often (believe me I did) you will heard that there is nothing like this.
Your bla bla hit bla bla for bla bla damage. Wanna have some bubu now? |
Shin Ra
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Posted - 2005.08.31 20:23:00 -
[8]
What loot dropped
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Evil Thug
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Posted - 2005.08.31 20:24:00 -
[9]
And YES.
1. We warped to gate.
2. We spent about week of our time gathering infos about [5] freighter movements from our sources.
3. We haven`t got any reimbursements, from log in traps.
And YES.
We dont need your respect. Pigs and Dogs cant have respect. See ya in space. Whine more.
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Nafri
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Posted - 2005.08.31 20:25:00 -
[10]
Originally by: Evil Thug
And YES.
1. We warped to gate.
2. We spent about week of our time gathering infos about [5] freighter movements from our sources.
3. We haven`t got any reimbursements, from log in traps.
And YES.
We dont need your respect. Pigs and Dogs cant have respect. See ya in space. Whine more.
I sense a warning 
Your bla bla hit bla bla for bla bla damage. Wanna have some bubu now? |
Nafri
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Posted - 2005.08.31 20:26:00 -
[11]
Originally by: Shin Ra
What loot dropped
thats the main question, probably 1 billion units of frozen food for the 5 annual topless dancing party
Your bla bla hit bla bla for bla bla damage. Wanna have some bubu now? |
Stormfront
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Posted - 2005.08.31 20:26:00 -
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Quote:
We dont need your respect. Pigs and Dogs cant have respect. See ya in space. Whine more.
Thanks for the smack.
BTW, the only whine here was you posting.
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Ohmite
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Posted - 2005.08.31 20:27:00 -
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Simple statement
Using drones on a POS is an exploit even though u have no idea they dont hit the POS but using a log in trap is not an exploit!!!!!!!!!!!
Some sense of realism here please, one was a fault in game mechanics which was not known before shooting the POS, it was used to stop enemy covert from getting to close and to kill the POS which in trying this and being told by a gm that the drones dont damage the station they were pulled in - this was then deemed an exploit by CCP, its there game but seems a silly responce as we later proved it was easier to kill POS without them!!!!!
BUT
Logging on all at once to warp back to a known point where the frieghter would be, with no chance of the enemy doing anything about as they are in a long and very slow warp to that gate, this plan was premeditated and used the known failures in the EVE game mechanics but people say this is not an exploit!!!!!!!!!!!!!
BIZARRE IN THE EXTREME
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Evil Thug
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Posted - 2005.08.31 20:29:00 -
[14]
Originally by: Nafri
Originally by: Evil Thug
And YES.
1. We warped to gate.
2. We spent about week of our time gathering infos about [5] freighter movements from our sources.
3. We haven`t got any reimbursements, from log in traps.
And YES.
We dont need your respect. Pigs and Dogs cant have respect. See ya in space. Whine more.
I sense a warning
Wait. I just quoted [5] smacktalk in local. 
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Ash to Ash
Dust to Dust |
siim
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Posted - 2005.08.31 20:29:00 -
[15]
Edited by: siim on 31/08/2005 20:30:05
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Nafri
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Posted - 2005.08.31 20:30:00 -
[16]
Originally by: Ohmite
Simple statement
Using drones on a POS is an exploit even though u have no idea they dont hit the POS but using a log in trap is not an exploit!!!!!!!!!!!
Some sense of realism here please, one was a fault in game mechanics which was not known before shooting the POS, it was used to stop enemy covert from getting to close and to kill the POS which in trying this and being told by a gm that the drones dont damage the station they were pulled in - this was then deemed an exploit by CCP, its there game but seems a silly responce as we later proved it was easier to kill POS without them!!!!!
BUT
Logging on all at once to warp back to a known point where the frieghter would be, with no chance of the enemy doing anything about as they are in a long and very slow warp to that gate, this plan was premeditated and used the known failures in the EVE game mechanics but people say this is not an exploit!!!!!!!!!!!!!
BIZARRE IN THE EXTREME
Well the difference is cleary to be seen.
The drones caused a failfunction in the POS AI, which CCP fixed now. The tactic stoped ingame mechanics from working like intended.
Mass logging in logging out was fixed be DEVs 1 year ago, by introducing the warp out/warp in procedure. The only problem is, it doesnt help a lot with most problems around this issue, unless you CTD in a mission without scramblers or you CTD next to a gate while camping it with some friends.
Your bla bla hit bla bla for bla bla damage. Wanna have some bubu now? |
Stormfront
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Posted - 2005.08.31 20:30:00 -
[17]
Ofcourse ***ver(RAT) getting muted by the GMs last night in Y-M was due to [5] smacking
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Evil Thug
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Posted - 2005.08.31 20:31:00 -
[18]
Expect this kill in our video, soon 
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Nafri
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Posted - 2005.08.31 20:32:00 -
[19]
Originally by: Evil Thug
Originally by: Nafri
Originally by: Evil Thug
And YES.
1. We warped to gate.
2. We spent about week of our time gathering infos about [5] freighter movements from our sources.
3. We haven`t got any reimbursements, from log in traps.
And YES.
We dont need your respect. Pigs and Dogs cant have respect. See ya in space. Whine more.
I sense a warning
Wait. I just quoted [5] smacktalk in local.
ahh now I get it, mhh this joke was not what I expected on Eve boards
so much self irony you hardly see on this boards 
Your bla bla hit bla bla for bla bla damage. Wanna have some bubu now? |
Virgo I'Platonicus
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Posted - 2005.08.31 20:33:00 -
[20]
Originally by: siim
Edited by: siim on 31/08/2005 20:30:05
jesus mate get real. This was just one example that shows that CCP ahs to do somethign serious about login tactics. That's all. This example is simply over boasted cause it was done to .5. member and we tend to whine a lot simply cause we can. Dont mix RL and VL issues mate. Not wirth trouble, and it's against all morale and ethical rules.
br,
V.
Soči------------------------
Krasna si bistra hči planin,
bistra v prirodni si lepoti,
ko ti prodornih globočin,
nevihte temne srd ne zmoti.
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nync
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Posted - 2005.08.31 20:36:00 -
[21]
Originally by: siim
Edited by: siim on 31/08/2005 20:30:05
Siim, don't mix RL with VL, and don't post words hate before word russians on this forum, read EULA first.
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Draconian
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Posted - 2005.08.31 20:38:00 -
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i want all my stuff lost b/c of BoB log on traps return
we petion about 50 times and got nothing when BoB used these tactic
and yes we BM all BoB guys and yes they were not 1 jump out
so why is it i see many 5/BoB petion responded to with a yes
and other ppl get its not an expolit blah blah i am sry about ur lose
i am so tired of it
3 guys die to server lag in a battle the 5 member gets his ship replaced in in 2 hours
i am really tired of it
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Corak
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Posted - 2005.08.31 20:40:00 -
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CCP you can work or you can only do **** in this game if your GM is ideots or they work on 1 said its your problem .
we send your GM`s lot petitions about logoff and login tactic who use enemies 1 year ago and your GM`s send back - this is not exploit !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
+ meby 10 BS RAT crashed at gate atm in this pache its can be posible 5 times in 1 h .
if you replace this friter to The Five member meby you replace us losts BS who we lost in wars VS XANADU or in HED-GP i remember XIF members login when we be in fight vs same forses and kill ~6 us BS ????????????? (we send petition to your GM`s and they answere be - its not exploit !!!!!!!!
WTF you do CCP ????
want baned me go do this but your GM`s not play clear its 100% .
i can post lot things were they work on 1 said .
when tis last pache be in game we lost lot of POSes were [5] use drones and we send lot petitions and don`t got unswere from GM`s only they send to us - this is not us problem *GM`s .
your GM`s have alts who mining and sell isks on ebay and you don`t do nothing.
60% of all EVE players sell isks on ebay its easy found but your GM`s do only what they need .
its not to all GM`s but CCP if you create this cool game meby you can work for peoples who give every months money ????????????
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Virgo I'Platonicus
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Posted - 2005.08.31 20:40:00 -
[24]
Originally by: Draconian
i want all my stuff lost b/c of BoB log on traps return
we petion about 50 times and got nothing when BoB used these tactic
and yes we BM all BoB guys and yes they were not 1 jump out
so why is it i see many 5/BoB petion responded to with a yes
and other ppl get its not an expolit blah blah i am sry about ur lose
i am so tired of it
3 guys die to server lag in a battle the 5 member gets his ship replaced in in 2 hours
i am really tired of it
:)))) mate i feel for ya. I have a solution for u. Simple. Know what it is? Join us :)))))))))))))))
Soči------------------------
Krasna si bistra hči planin,
bistra v prirodni si lepoti,
ko ti prodornih globočin,
nevihte temne srd ne zmoti.
-----------S. Gregorčič |
Obidios
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Posted - 2005.08.31 20:41:00 -
[25]
Originally by: Draconian
i want all my stuff lost b/c of BoB log on traps return
we petion about 50 times and got nothing when BoB used these tactic
and yes we BM all BoB guys and yes they were not 1 jump out
so why is it i see many 5/BoB petion responded to with a yes
and other ppl get its not an expolit blah blah i am sry about ur lose
i am so tired of it
3 guys die to server lag in a battle the 5 member gets his ship replaced in in 2 hours
i am really tired of it
People really need to stop being so paranoid, we have already had a thread accusing us of being GM's, we haven't got this hauler back yet (might or might not) and we get nothing anyone else doesn't.
And for the people wonderin, about 2 hours worth of mining dropped, that's all 
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Evil Thug
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Posted - 2005.08.31 20:42:00 -
[26]
Originally by: Obidios
Originally by: Draconian
i want all my stuff lost b/c of BoB log on traps return
we petion about 50 times and got nothing when BoB used these tactic
and yes we BM all BoB guys and yes they were not 1 jump out
so why is it i see many 5/BoB petion responded to with a yes
and other ppl get its not an expolit blah blah i am sry about ur lose
i am so tired of it
3 guys die to server lag in a battle the 5 member gets his ship replaced in in 2 hours
i am really tired of it
People really need to stop being so paranoid, we have already had a thread accusing us of being GM's, we haven't got this hauler back yet (might or might not) and we get nothing anyone else doesn't.
And for the people wonderin, about 2 hours worth of mining dropped, that's all
Hauler != Freighter.
Morale ?
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Parity
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Posted - 2005.08.31 20:42:00 -
[27]
Logon Trap is used by all if CCP can't fix this its plain unfair to give back the Freghter to Supr...
-= NBSI 4TW! =- |
Stormfront
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Posted - 2005.08.31 20:42:00 -
[28]
Quote:
CCP you can work or you can only do **** in this game if your GM is ideots or they work on 1 said its your problem .
we send your GM`s lot petitions about logoff and login tactic who use enemies 1 year ago and your GM`s send back - this is not exploit !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
+ meby 10 BS RAT crashed at gate atm in this pache its can be posible 5 times in 1 h .
if you replace this friter to The Five member meby you replace us losts BS who we lost in wars VS XANADU or in HED-GP i remember XIF members login when we be in fight vs same forses and kill ~6 us BS ????????????? (we send petition to your GM`s and they answere be - its not exploit !!!!!!!!
WTF you do CCP ????
want baned me go do this but your GM`s not play clear its 100% .
i can post lot things were they work on 1 said .
when tis last pache be in game we lost lot of POSes were [5] use drones and we send lot petitions and don`t got unswere from GM`s only they send to us - this is not us problem *GM`s .
your GM`s have alts who mining and sell isks on ebay and you don`t do nothing.
60% of all EVE players sell isks on ebay its easy found but your GM`s do only what they need .
its not to all GM`s but CCP if you create this cool game meby you can work for peoples who give every months money ????????????
I'm sorry, but what you type is VERY VERY hard to understand.
Please ask Omeega to post for you.
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SengH
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Posted - 2005.08.31 20:44:00 -
[29]
Originally by: Draconian
i want all my stuff lost b/c of BoB log on traps return
we petion about 50 times and got nothing when BoB used these tactic
and yes we BM all BoB guys and yes they were not 1 jump out
so why is it i see many 5/BoB petion responded to with a yes
and other ppl get its not an expolit blah blah i am sry about ur lose
i am so tired of it
3 guys die to server lag in a battle the 5 member gets his ship replaced in in 2 hours
i am really tired of it
 the grass is always greener on the other side... I can tell you we have our own share of problems with the GMs.
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Obidios
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Posted - 2005.08.31 20:45:00 -
[30]
Edited by: Obidios on 31/08/2005 20:45:20
Originally by: Evil Thug
Originally by: Obidios
Originally by: Draconian
i want all my stuff lost b/c of BoB log on traps return
we petion about 50 times and got nothing when BoB used these tactic
and yes we BM all BoB guys and yes they were not 1 jump out
so why is it i see many 5/BoB petion responded to with a yes
and other ppl get its not an expolit blah blah i am sry about ur lose
i am so tired of it
3 guys die to server lag in a battle the 5 member gets his ship replaced in in 2 hours
i am really tired of it
People really need to stop being so paranoid, we have already had a thread accusing us of being GM's, we haven't got this hauler back yet (might or might not) and we get nothing anyone else doesn't.
And for the people wonderin, about 2 hours worth of mining dropped, that's all
Hauler != Freighter.
Morale ?
Hauler, Freighter, whatever... Same thing different size, and our morale is tip top thanks for askin 
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Virgo I'Platonicus
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Posted - 2005.08.31 20:45:00 -
[31]
Originally by: Evil Thug
Originally by: Obidios
Originally by: Draconian
i want all my stuff lost b/c of BoB log on traps return
we petion about 50 times and got nothing when BoB used these tactic
and yes we BM all BoB guys and yes they were not 1 jump out
so why is it i see many 5/BoB petion responded to with a yes
and other ppl get its not an expolit blah blah i am sry about ur lose
i am so tired of it
3 guys die to server lag in a battle the 5 member gets his ship replaced in in 2 hours
i am really tired of it
People really need to stop being so paranoid, we have already had a thread accusing us of being GM's, we haven't got this hauler back yet (might or might not) and we get nothing anyone else doesn't.
And for the people wonderin, about 2 hours worth of mining dropped, that's all
Hauler != Freighter.
Morale ?
What about it?
Soči------------------------
Krasna si bistra hči planin,
bistra v prirodni si lepoti,
ko ti prodornih globočin,
nevihte temne srd ne zmoti.
-----------S. Gregorčič |
zarc
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Posted - 2005.08.31 20:45:00 -
[32]
Supremacy the same guys killing Haulers in 1.0 with caracals.
Couldnt have happened to a nicer bunch
Good Kill RAT.
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Evil Thug
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Posted - 2005.08.31 20:46:00 -
[33]
Originally by: Obidios
Hauler, Freighter, whatever... Same thing different size, and our morale is tip top thanks for askin
We are working on it
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Dust to Dust |
Virgo I'Platonicus
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Posted - 2005.08.31 20:47:00 -
[34]
Originally by: zarc
Supremacy the same guys killing Haulers in 1.0 with caracals.
Couldnt have happened to a nicer bunch
Good Kill RAT.
U better be very sure of what u accuse mate :) Show some kill mails. make argumetns. something?
Soči------------------------
Krasna si bistra hči planin,
bistra v prirodni si lepoti,
ko ti prodornih globočin,
nevihte temne srd ne zmoti.
-----------S. Gregorčič |
Obidios
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Posted - 2005.08.31 20:49:00 -
[35]
Originally by: Virgo I'Platonicus
Originally by: zarc
Supremacy the same guys killing Haulers in 1.0 with caracals.
Couldnt have happened to a nicer bunch
Good Kill RAT.
U better be very sure of what u accuse mate :) Show some kill mails. make argumetns. something?
was before your time m8, but true :)
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Stormfront
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Posted - 2005.08.31 20:50:00 -
[36]
With mains, losing security status. With corp tags.
Losing ships to kill ships.
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Darken Two
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Posted - 2005.08.31 20:53:00 -
[37]
Originally by: SengH
Originally by: Draconian
i want all my stuff lost b/c of BoB log on traps return
we petion about 50 times and got nothing when BoB used these tactic
and yes we BM all BoB guys and yes they were not 1 jump out
so why is it i see many 5/BoB petion responded to with a yes
and other ppl get its not an expolit blah blah i am sry about ur lose
i am so tired of it
3 guys die to server lag in a battle the 5 member gets his ship replaced in in 2 hours
i am really tired of it
the grass is always greener on the other side... I can tell you we have our own share of problems with the GMs.
Like what? I'm not the paranoid type when it comes to GMs and devs, but the eve GMs leave a lot to be desired. In this case, I believe the grass is actually greener on the other side.
Originally by: Blind Fear
Generally, when trying to be a puppetmaster, it is considered good form not to wrap the strings around your neck and choke yourself.
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Virgo I'Platonicus
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Posted - 2005.08.31 20:53:00 -
[38]
Originally by: Stormfront
With mains, losing security status. With corp tags.
Losing ships to kill ships.
According to game mechanics it's cool then :))))
Soči------------------------
Krasna si bistra hči planin,
bistra v prirodni si lepoti,
ko ti prodornih globočin,
nevihte temne srd ne zmoti.
-----------S. Gregorčič |
Stormfront
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Posted - 2005.08.31 20:55:00 -
[39]
Darken.. like the time our drone usage on a pos was classified as an exploit on the spot.. shields recharged and all that.
Just a SMALL example.
Your dislike for the [5] seems to cloud your judgement tbh.
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Grondal
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Posted - 2005.08.31 20:57:00 -
[40]
Originally by: Draconian
i want all my stuff lost b/c of BoB log on traps return
we petion about 50 times and got nothing when BoB used these tactic
and yes we BM all BoB guys and yes they were not 1 jump out
so why is it i see many 5/BoB petion responded to with a yes
and other ppl get its not an expolit blah blah i am sry about ur lose
i am so tired of it
3 guys die to server lag in a battle the 5 member gets his ship replaced in in 2 hours
i am really tired of it
I sure hope some Devs or GM's are reading this closely because we are seeing some interesting points here. 
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SengH
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Posted - 2005.08.31 20:57:00 -
[41]
Edited by: SengH on 31/08/2005 20:58:24
Like the case where I have a petition thats been open for 6 weeks and the GM just disappeared off the map (oh yeah and btw.. its still open.. i filed it the day after the cold war patch ) ? Or being promised something by 1 GM having silence from an "escalated petition" for 4 weeks then another GM comes back and tells you that the other GM's decision has been reversed and sorry but all the stuff you lost due to the bug in the meantime will not be reimbursed even though they said they would cover it at the start.
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Obidios
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Posted - 2005.08.31 21:03:00 -
[42]
Originally by: SengH
Edited by: SengH on 31/08/2005 20:58:24
Like the case where I have a petition thats been open for 6 weeks and the GM just disappeared off the map (oh yeah and btw.. its still open.. i filed it the day after the cold war patch ) ? Or being promised something by 1 GM having silence from an "escalated petition" for 4 weeks then another GM comes back and tells you that the other GM's decision has been reversed and sorry but all the stuff you lost due to the bug in the meantime will not be reimbursed even though they said they would cover it at the start.
Did you make a mistake in the secret code word or something.
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Stormfront
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Posted - 2005.08.31 21:04:00 -
[43]
Quote:
Did you make a mistake in the secret code word or something.
CAn you evemail me the code Obi?
I seem to have lost a couple of Machariels and Nightmares that the GMs need to replace. This might speed up the process.
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Darken Two
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Posted - 2005.08.31 21:06:00 -
[44]
Originally by: SengH
Edited by: SengH on 31/08/2005 20:58:24
Like the case where I have a petition thats been open for 6 weeks and the GM just disappeared off the map (oh yeah and btw.. its still open.. i filed it the day after the cold war patch ) ? Or being promised something by 1 GM having silence from an "escalated petition" for 4 weeks then another GM comes back and tells you that the other GM's decision has been reversed and sorry but all the stuff you lost due to the bug in the meantime will not be reimbursed even though they said they would cover it at the start.
Fair enough thats all I asked for. I have more things to say but I'd rather avoid the ban.
Originally by: Blind Fear
Generally, when trying to be a puppetmaster, it is considered good form not to wrap the strings around your neck and choke yourself.
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Darken Two
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Posted - 2005.08.31 21:07:00 -
[45]
Originally by: Stormfront
Darken.. like the time our drone usage on a pos was classified as an exploit on the spot.. shields recharged and all that.
Just a SMALL example.
Your dislike for the [5] seems to cloud your judgement tbh.
Actually, I don't mind 5 too much now. It's JF I'm targetting with my hate-o-scope right now.
Originally by: Blind Fear
Generally, when trying to be a puppetmaster, it is considered good form not to wrap the strings around your neck and choke yourself.
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Elenia Kheynes
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Posted - 2005.08.31 21:10:00 -
[46]
I have one question to the [5] tho...
How many ships were escorting that Freighter ?
and how many attacked it hm ? 
Now, tell me you weren't crazy to have such a ship so unescorted
Dear friendly customer... Can I have your money ?
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Dirtball
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Posted - 2005.08.31 21:12:00 -
[47]
OMG the five know the forum rules, whatever will RaT do... stay tuned
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Stormfront
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Posted - 2005.08.31 21:12:00 -
[48]
Because we had scouts, and didn't expect ghey tactics?
4 BS 1 HAC I believe and 2 scouts and a frig here or there.
With that setup we would have had all the time in the world to prepare for hostiles jumps ahead, on the side around us. Just not for logged off gankers.
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Stormfront
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Posted - 2005.08.31 21:13:00 -
[49]
Quote:
OMG the five know the forum rules, whatever will RaT do... stay tune
And the guy with a grudge strikes again. Get over it mate. You were hurt by something we did. Now you are just a stuck record.
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Dirtball
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Posted - 2005.08.31 21:14:00 -
[50]
Originally by: Stormfront
Quote:
We dont need your respect. Pigs and Dogs cant have respect. See ya in space. Whine more.
Thanks for the smack.
BTW, the only whine here was you posting.
ooooooo NOOOO! I'm gonna tell my daddy on you!!!
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Dirtball
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Posted - 2005.08.31 21:16:00 -
[51]
Originally by: Stormfront
Quote:
OMG the five know the forum rules, whatever will RaT do... stay tune
And the guy with a grudge strikes again. Get over it mate. You were hurt by something we did. Now you are just a stuck record.
I was never hurt by anything you did, that's why as I said last time, it is not a grudge, it's just hatred, similar to racism, do you need to have a grudge to be a racist?
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Nytemaster
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Posted - 2005.08.31 21:16:00 -
[52]
If GMs don't ban login traps which I know are possible as the victim merely has to be beginning to warp to the destination, I will be personally using alts to scout and doing them endlessly in order to get it banned from this game.
So carefully consider the choices you make CCP as if it is exploitable, it will be exploited.
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Nytemaster
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Corak
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Posted - 2005.08.31 21:26:00 -
[53]
 good hauler 2 bil
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Stormfront
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Posted - 2005.08.31 21:29:00 -
[54]
Quote:
I was never hurt by anything you did, that's why as I said last time, it is not a grudge, it's just hatred, similar to racism, do you need to have a grudge to be a racist?
Hatred... Wow you take things too seriously don't you.
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Virgo I'Platonicus
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Posted - 2005.08.31 21:30:00 -
[55]
Originally by: Dirtball
Originally by: Stormfront
Quote:
OMG the five know the forum rules, whatever will RaT do... stay tune
And the guy with a grudge strikes again. Get over it mate. You were hurt by something we did. Now you are just a stuck record.
I was never hurt by anything you did, that's why as I said last time, it is not a grudge, it's just hatred, similar to racism, do you need to have a grudge to be a racist?
Nah it only means that ur mother didnt give u the love u required as a child. (no ****ting)
Soči------------------------
Krasna si bistra hči planin,
bistra v prirodni si lepoti,
ko ti prodornih globočin,
nevihte temne srd ne zmoti.
-----------S. Gregorčič |
Darken Two
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Posted - 2005.08.31 21:34:00 -
[56]
Why are people *****in here? Its been stated time and again by teh GMs and Devs that there is no such thing as a login trap. They have to first accept that its an exploit.
So everyone can keep pulling their hair out but nothins gonna happen.
Originally by: Blind Fear
Generally, when trying to be a puppetmaster, it is considered good form not to wrap the strings around your neck and choke yourself.
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Daroh
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Posted - 2005.08.31 21:34:00 -
[57]
Edited by: Daroh on 31/08/2005 21:44:07
2GMs: If you give back [5] their freighter, note that it will be the last of your word confirming that you are not fair. We will do all we can, we will apply to CCP developers and direction for changing GMs personnel, we will make all know our opinion about that incident. I know, you rule that game, but note that we can rule peoples opinions with all methods that we have, such as web sites, posts on forums, etc. You should not think that russian people dont speak english. If you make incident - be ready to pay. If you can not pay, dont do any incident.
P.S. who inspects GMs actions? Any Developers, who doesnt
have interests in game politics or nobody?
P.P.S. Please, dont answer this post if you are not GM or developer, or forum moderator.
Thanks,
Daroh, article writer, professional online gamer.
(game)land magazine, Moscow, Russia, www.glc.ru
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Elenia Kheynes
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Posted - 2005.08.31 21:35:00 -
[58]
Originally by: Stormfront
Because we had scouts, and didn't expect ghey tactics?
4 BS 1 HAC I believe and 2 scouts and a frig here or there.
With that setup we would have had all the time in the world to prepare for hostiles jumps ahead, on the side around us. Just not for logged off gankers.
if you had scouts, how comes you didn't see them coming and logging off ??
They could only come from 3 different ways. 3 noob alts ain't much for the safety of the Freighter.
Dear friendly customer... Can I have your money ?
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Bedrock
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Posted - 2005.08.31 21:38:00 -
[59]
Originally by: zarc
Supremacy the same guys killing Haulers in 1.0 with caracals.
Couldnt have happened to a nicer bunch
Good Kill RAT.
hehe karma working at its best. Good kill indeed regardless.
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Stormfront
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Posted - 2005.08.31 21:38:00 -
[60]
They logged off well before our scouts went through there...
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StiZum Hilidii
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Posted - 2005.08.31 21:39:00 -
[61]
i love reading russians claiming we have gms in our pockets.
now can i claim something about all russian corps or will i get banned?
STAN
FACTA NON VERBA
BRING BACK MMO CASINO |
Corak
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Posted - 2005.08.31 21:41:00 -
[62]
meby they crashed ?
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Obidios
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Posted - 2005.08.31 21:43:00 -
[63]
Originally by: Corak
meby they crashed ?
does crashing remove jumps on map and the memory of people who would have been on the routes before that? must do!
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Corak
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Posted - 2005.08.31 21:44:00 -
[64]
StiZ clime clime about ebay its only what you can clime in forums and in game on lokal chat .
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dj lightning
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Posted - 2005.08.31 21:44:00 -
[65]
they also was a GM where we killed atuks POS in h-pa today anyways great job killing them carebears. 
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Stormfront
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Posted - 2005.08.31 21:44:00 -
[66]
Quote:
meby they crashed ?
Heh, they admitted to doing a logging on trap.
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Virgo I'Platonicus
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Posted - 2005.08.31 21:44:00 -
[67]
Originally by: Daroh
2GMs: If you give back [5] their freighter, note that it will be the last of your word confirming that you are not fair. We will do all we can, we will apply to CCP developers and direction for changing GMs personnel, we will make all know our opinion about that incident. I know, you rule that game, but note that we can rule peoples opinions with all methods that we have, such as web sites, posts on forums, etc. You should not think that russian people dont speak english. If you make incident - be ready to pay. If you can not pay, dont do any incident.
P.S. who inspects GMs actions? Any Developers, who doesnt
have interests in game politics or nobody?
P.P.S. Please, dont answer this post if you are not GM or developer, or forum moderator.
Thanks,
Daroh, article writer, professional online gamer.
(game)land magazine, Russia.
No offence mate. I c u have a high opinion of urself.
Answer this. U think any1 in this world EXCEPT EVE players gives a f**k what happens inside eve? U think that publicising stuff like "develpoment team unfair to game community" will do CCP harm? ffs u're doing them a free commercil/add :))) u post stuff liek that in any magasine, some other magazine will say how cool CCP is to even think about helping players in such situations or for even being htere for the players, even though they mostly get threats into their faces ( and ur post is a threat).
Mate, get ur ego down a bit, look at this from the reality point of view: no matter what happens u will either play eve or u wont. Maybe a few more ppl leave eve if u do. Many more will come. It is still the best acknowledged player to player style mmorp out there. period.
br,
V.
Soči------------------------
Krasna si bistra hči planin,
bistra v prirodni si lepoti,
ko ti prodornih globočin,
nevihte temne srd ne zmoti.
-----------S. Gregorčič |
Elenia Kheynes
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Posted - 2005.08.31 21:46:00 -
[68]
Originally by: Stormfront
They logged off well before our scouts went through there...
during your mining op you had permanent scouts at some positions. You could have done the same here. You didn't.
You didn't scout enough and you didn't escort enough your ship. Doesn't change other facts, but you haven't been careful enough as a corp.
Dear friendly customer... Can I have your money ?
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Virgo I'Platonicus
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Posted - 2005.08.31 21:46:00 -
[69]
Originally by: StiZum Hilidii
i love reading russians claiming we have gms in our pockets.
now can i claim something about all russian corps or will i get banned?
the first reply for which i can say !ROFL! :)))))))))))
Soči------------------------
Krasna si bistra hči planin,
bistra v prirodni si lepoti,
ko ti prodornih globočin,
nevihte temne srd ne zmoti.
-----------S. Gregorčič |
Virgo I'Platonicus
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Posted - 2005.08.31 21:48:00 -
[70]
Originally by: Elenia Kheynes
Originally by: Stormfront
They logged off well before our scouts went through there...
during your mining op you had permanent scouts at some positions. You could have done the same here. You didn't.
You didn't scout enough and you didn't escort enough your ship. Doesn't change other facts, but you haven't been careful enough as a corp.
I agree :)) doesnt change the fact that u cant scout for outgame/logged off enemy with ingame mechanics/tools....Which is the main problem.
Soči------------------------
Krasna si bistra hči planin,
bistra v prirodni si lepoti,
ko ti prodornih globočin,
nevihte temne srd ne zmoti.
-----------S. Gregorčič |
Ohmite
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Posted - 2005.08.31 21:54:00 -
[71]
Considering it was our 2nd run - they logged off there hours before the event. The route was 10j so yes it was scouted but not hours before and as Obi said the map showed no jumps etc. Even RAT admitted this was planned a while before so likely to have logged a good number of hours or days before, you would need a crystal ball to see a fleet logged off 10j from ur fleet hours before you move through that piece of space - Can we borrow urs please, hindsight is a wonderful thing
Yes very good intel, too good intel!!!! and great planning but still not a tactic to be proud off
As bad as logging off in combat, ccp have fixed this exploit and CCP will surely do something to stop this lame tactic.
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Voltron
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Posted - 2005.08.31 21:54:00 -
[72]
Originally by: Evil Thug
Expect this kill in our video, soon
Cool, can't wait to see it.
Volt
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Daroh
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Posted - 2005.08.31 21:56:00 -
[73]
Edited by: Daroh on 31/08/2005 22:00:50
"Maybe a few more ppl leave eve if u do. Many more will come." Yes, its easy to make russians left game, they are so bad - many more will come. I asked not to reply, dont want to discuss that problem with you, im sure that CCP is good company, becouse they do such good game as EVE, they interested in progress of EVEgame. But GMs are not CCP's staff, they can be interested in their own way, im not sure in that, and i dont blame any GMs, but i see what i see. For the best game quality CCP should make not interested in game team to inspect GMs actions. If it can not be done - so we cant be sure that anyone is safe in that game. I pay money to play and i play fair. I dont like when somebody plays unfair with me. Do u understand that?
PS if i will post something in (game)land about EVE it will be only good words. Ppl will be disappointed more if we dont tell them about our opinions about some conflicts in EVE.
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Elenia Kheynes
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Posted - 2005.08.31 22:04:00 -
[74]
Edited by: Elenia Kheynes on 31/08/2005 22:06:19
Originally by: Virgo I'Platonicus
Originally by: Elenia Kheynes
Originally by: Stormfront
They logged off well before our scouts went through there...
during your mining op you had permanent scouts at some positions. You could have done the same here. You didn't.
You didn't scout enough and you didn't escort enough your ship. Doesn't change other facts, but you haven't been careful enough as a corp.
I agree :)) doesnt change the fact that u cant scout for outgame/logged off enemy with ingame mechanics/tools....Which is the main problem.
Well, I'm among those who think local channel should be banned from 0.0 (except with use of sovereignty perhaps ?)
atm hunting is extremly difficult. Jump in a system, everybody safespot & log off.
Mechanics are in your advantage atm. You could have escorted your Freighter so well they wouldn't have dared attacking it.
A good solution to me is removal of local channel (I mean by this people don't show except if they talk and except if you have sovereignty) and with this possibility to see logged off ships without being able to scan them (by making them appear in another collor on scanner ?)
And to make it even more fun... you could litteraly remove the active pilots option from the map.
Then for sure... it would be fun ;-)
Dear friendly customer... Can I have your money ?
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Virgo I'Platonicus
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Posted - 2005.08.31 22:06:00 -
[75]
Originally by: Daroh
"Maybe a few more ppl leave eve if u do. Many more will come." Yes, its easy to make russians left game, they are so bad - many more will come. I asked not to reply, dont want to discuss that problem with you, im sure that CCP is good company, becouse they do such good game as EVE, they interested in progress of EVEgame. But GMs are not CCP's staff, they can be interested in their own way, im not sure in that, and i dont blame any GMs, but i see what i see. For the best game quality CCP should make not interested in game team to inspect GMs action. If it can not be done - so we cant be sure that anyone is safe in that game. I pay money to play and i play fair. I dont like when somebody plays unfair with me. Do u understand that?
1. U post on public forum with some rules. this means that ANY1 can and will answer ur post if he wishes. U force ur way of thinking upon us, be then fair and allow other ppl to do the same to u.
2.U pay for exactly and only for what is in EULA nothing more nothing less. I didnt c anythign in there concerning "returned property by dev team is not allowed and morally disputable when ppl know about it".
3. Man why do u always bring russians up ffs? R u a racist? I am a slovenian. I deeply care for all the ppl with our historical background = slovenians, serbians, slovak, russians. This thread ISN'T about russians! I never said : "Russians will leave, they're few, but slovenians will come, we're many and we wtpwn y00!" At this point i feel like i'm talking to a girl. I say something, but she hears and understands something completely else.
4. It is difficult to play fair when all ccp can do is change game mechanics. Log in exploit (hush it's not officially exploit) is actually out of game made - not allowing game to do proper job. So .... doing that is fair to u? i mean honestly? Who the F r u to talk to me about honesty?
Sorry if i got carried away toward the end.
br,
V.
Soči------------------------
Krasna si bistra hči planin,
bistra v prirodni si lepoti,
ko ti prodornih globočin,
nevihte temne srd ne zmoti.
-----------S. Gregorčič |
Virgo I'Platonicus
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Posted - 2005.08.31 22:08:00 -
[76]
Originally by: Elenia Kheynes
Edited by: Elenia Kheynes on 31/08/2005 22:06:19
Originally by: Virgo I'Platonicus
Originally by: Elenia Kheynes
Originally by: Stormfront
They logged off well before our scouts went through there...
during your mining op you had permanent scouts at some positions. You could have done the same here. You didn't.
You didn't scout enough and you didn't escort enough your ship. Doesn't change other facts, but you haven't been careful enough as a corp.
I agree :)) doesnt change the fact that u cant scout for outgame/logged off enemy with ingame mechanics/tools....Which is the main problem.
Well, I'm among those who think local channel should be banned from 0.0 (except with use of sovereignty perhaps ?)
atm hunting is extremly difficult. Jump in a system, everybody safespot & log off.
Mechanics are in your advantage atm. You could have escorted your Freighter so well they wouldn't have dared attacking it.
A good solution to me is removal of local channel (I mean by this people don't show except if they talk and except if you have sovereignty) and with this possibility to see logged off ships without being able to scan them (by making them appear in another collor on scanner ?)
And to make it even more fun... you could litteraly remove the active pilots option from the map.
Then for sure... it would be fun ;-)
Completely agree with u there. Fullstop. I think both have sides have proven their points, let's wait what ccp does about it .
br,
V.
Soči------------------------
Krasna si bistra hči planin,
bistra v prirodni si lepoti,
ko ti prodornih globočin,
nevihte temne srd ne zmoti.
-----------S. Gregorčič |
Bruchpilot
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Posted - 2005.08.31 22:11:00 -
[77]
Hm wasn't And Justice For All a Metallica song?
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Cabal Leader
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Posted - 2005.08.31 22:15:00 -
[78]
Originally by: StiZum Hilidii
Edited by: StiZum Hilidii on 31/08/2005 19:56:10
so your basically admiting you did a login trap and your annoyed that ccp dont like this?
oh and 5 admit defeat when it is handed to them. you did a login trap
well done you.
Doesnt get respect from any one.
When you and your M8's from BOB do it it is Condoned..
When someone else does it it is a Exploit?
Please explain the difference to us all!
You defend BOB when they use this lame tactic all the time.
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Grids
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Posted - 2005.08.31 22:17:00 -
[79]
If the boot were on the other foot and the 5 done this you would be all singing and shouting and loving it about how good it was...
Just like everyone was when the bob spy took down that POS now that was unfair...
So stop whining and crying like babies and get on with it...
BTW well done rage and terror nice move
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Sarmaul
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Posted - 2005.08.31 22:18:00 -
[80]
how about making it that when you relog you warp to a random point in the system, not the place were you logged off.
No more login traps, and it means that when the corp logs in they all need to gang-up and organise before attacking.
problem solved?
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Will Fireblade
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Posted - 2005.08.31 22:18:00 -
[81]
Edited by: Will Fireblade on 31/08/2005 22:18:21
No whey iam reading all four pages... Good kill.. Respect
SUPERIOR TACTICS
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Hobblin I
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Posted - 2005.08.31 22:20:00 -
[82]
Quote:
how about making it that when you relog you warp to a random point in the system, not the place were you logged off.
No more login traps, and it means that when the corp logs in they all need to gang-up and organise before attacking.
problem solved?
Actually that doesn't work.. think it used to happen before. Not sure though. They would still end up there before the Frieghter.. 0.x warp speed for the lose.
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Saladin
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Posted - 2005.08.31 22:22:00 -
[83]
Originally by: StiZum Hilidii
Edited by: StiZum Hilidii on 31/08/2005 19:56:10
so your basically admiting you did a login trap and your annoyed that ccp dont like this?
oh and 5 admit defeat when it is handed to them. you did a login trap
well done you.
Doesnt get respect from any one.
Nice to see these words from the corp that perfected this tactic
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Stormfront
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Posted - 2005.08.31 22:24:00 -
[84]
Quote:
Nice to see these words from the corp that perfected this tactic
You seem to come across as if saying that this tactic is bad?
Thanks for making our point.
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Tesk Malloc
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Posted - 2005.08.31 22:24:00 -
[85]
Hmmmmmm, interesting topic, alot of different opinions.
A kill is a kill, I'll be the first to admit that. I'll use every trick in the book using ingame mechanics to kill someone.
However, whatever congratulations for the use of intel, planning and co-ordination you deserved for this kill is completely lost due to the admission of a fleet log on.
I'll not use the word exploit because it has not been proven it was. Yet.
I could not be more dissapointed in RAT.
Oh and lol a Daroh. That post threatening the GM's and CCP with what? A journalistic embargo? Thats as funny as ****
Tesk Malloc - Hired Scum, Murderer and All Round Nasty Piece Of Work
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StiZum Hilidii
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Posted - 2005.08.31 22:25:00 -
[86]
Edited by: StiZum Hilidii on 31/08/2005 22:30:13
saladin
have a lolly.
edit. LOL at the russian writer. glad to see you can still write about politics in russia even if it is only in a game :(
STAN
FACTA NON VERBA
BRING BACK MMO CASINO |
Acier
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Posted - 2005.08.31 22:27:00 -
[87]
This has been talked to death atm..
Can SUPRM pilots PLS stop posting.
When there is a decision by CCP I'm sure the RAT spy in our corp will let them know what the outcome is and they can SS and login and try again or stay and fight - either way I don't really care atm.
Olly - we did scout.. do you really think that the corp who makes you stay in your SS many a day on your alts didn't scout this freighter route properly and watch.. they did a login trap m8.. the thing moves at .6au.. they were on the gate and no matter how many ships we had (unless it was like 40) they could pop the poor thing.. it was just a very well planned and done login trap. There was NO one in any neighboring system, the right side of screen lit up - they logged in - they showed up at gate in jump range.. choices were limited and they do know how to gank well.
Everyone else who is commenting.. thanks but let's let it go for now and see what is decided.
Again RAT.. well executed but little kudos to you using this tactic.
Acier
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Saladin
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Posted - 2005.08.31 22:32:00 -
[88]
Originally by: Stormfront
Quote:
Nice to see these words from the corp that perfected this tactic
You seem to come across as if saying that this tactic is bad?
Thanks for making our point.
Maybe I wasnt clear. ATUK is a veteran of the log in trap and used it many times. Nothing is beneath them to get a kill. They also dock or safespot when the odds are against them, just like everyone else does. Acting all honorable and judgemental now when someone else uses the same tactics is weak.
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FOEHAMMER006
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Posted - 2005.08.31 22:34:00 -
[89]
You guys are upset that you lost a freighter, Get over it. You lost it, done and done. The GMs said themselves they saw no illegal activity, So get over it. End of story.
Diplomat at your service |
Rexthor Hammerfists
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Posted - 2005.08.31 22:38:00 -
[90]
well, if reimbursed or not
- i hope cause i wouldnt like to get another one -
but, i wonna say grats to a well planned operation.
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StiZum Hilidii
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Posted - 2005.08.31 22:40:00 -
[91]
saladin maybe you can point out when this has occured as i have never been in an atuk login trap.
your rage towards us gives us alot of laughs but serious dude your obsession with us would even worry bush voters.
seriously dude. with this much rage you must find it hard to see our killboards and stuff.
it must really rage you to realise you will never have the same impact on the game that atuk does.
oh well
sucks for you
show me an atuk login trap though as i would like to know who did it.
STAN
FACTA NON VERBA
BRING BACK MMO CASINO |
Marcus Aurelius
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Posted - 2005.08.31 22:41:00 -
[92]
Login traps were no logner an exploit because there are not that many waprs ingame that take longer to complete then it takes 10 people to logon coordinatedly and take control of theri ships after they exit warp.
That means that a logon trap had very little chance of success seeing how targets could run when they saw local jumping up. Still, that was not satisfactory since it allows for logogn traps to be used effectively when there's an ongoing fight already, but al teast it was somewhat under control.
But, frieghters and dreads chagne that with their slow warps. You can now log in and know that freighter is still in warp to you, just because it is so damn slow.
Still takes very good timing, but nonetheless a good reason for CCP to reevaluate their GM instructions.
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Elenia Kheynes
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Posted - 2005.08.31 22:47:00 -
[93]
Originally by: Acier
Olly - we did scout.. do you really think that the corp who makes you stay in your SS many a day on your alts didn't scout this freighter route properly and watch.. they did a login trap m8.. the thing moves at .6au.. they were on the gate and no matter how many ships we had (unless it was like 40) they could pop the poor thing.. it was just a very well planned and done login trap. There was NO one in any neighboring system, the right side of screen lit up - they logged in - they showed up at gate in jump range.. choices were limited and they do know how to gank well.
I didn't only stay in my safespot my dear
I also ganked a few sponsored corps around and tried to set up a warp bubble camping 4 jumps from your HQ
Anyway... I guess if RAT got a spy in your corp you'll have to be careful while at a safespot... Maybe I should contact them to see if I can work with their spy (well, I would prolly have to buy a russian translator tho... hmmm... sucks  )
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Vince Draken
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Posted - 2005.08.31 23:27:00 -
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Originally by: Corak
CCP you can work or you can only do **** in this game if your GM is ideots or they work on 1 said its your problem .
we send your GM`s lot petitions about logoff and login tactic who use enemies 1 year ago and your GM`s send back - this is not exploit !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
+ meby 10 BS RAT crashed at gate atm in this pache its can be posible 5 times in 1 h .
if you replace this friter to The Five member meby you replace us losts BS who we lost in wars VS XANADU or in HED-GP i remember XIF members login when we be in fight vs same forses and kill ~6 us BS ????????????? (we send petition to your GM`s and they answere be - its not exploit !!!!!!!!
WTF you do CCP ????
want baned me go do this but your GM`s not play clear its 100% .
i can post lot things were they work on 1 said .
when tis last pache be in game we lost lot of POSes were [5] use drones and we send lot petitions and don`t got unswere from GM`s only they send to us - this is not us problem *GM`s .
your GM`s have alts who mining and sell isks on ebay and you don`t do nothing.
60% of all EVE players sell isks on ebay its easy found but your GM`s do only what they need .
its not to all GM`s but CCP if you create this cool game meby you can work for peoples who give every months money ????????????
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Ruffio Sepico
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Posted - 2005.08.31 23:33:00 -
[95]
Originally by: Vince Draken
Originally by: Corak
CCP you can work or you can only do **** in this game if your GM is ideots or they work on 1 said its your problem .
we send your GM`s lot petitions about logoff and login tactic who use enemies 1 year ago and your GM`s send back - this is not exploit !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
+ meby 10 BS RAT crashed at gate atm in this pache its can be posible 5 times in 1 h .
if you replace this friter to The Five member meby you replace us losts BS who we lost in wars VS XANADU or in HED-GP i remember XIF members login when we be in fight vs same forses and kill ~6 us BS ????????????? (we send petition to your GM`s and they answere be - its not exploit !!!!!!!!
WTF you do CCP ????
want baned me go do this but your GM`s not play clear its 100% .
i can post lot things were they work on 1 said .
when tis last pache be in game we lost lot of POSes were [5] use drones and we send lot petitions and don`t got unswere from GM`s only they send to us - this is not us problem *GM`s .
your GM`s have alts who mining and sell isks on ebay and you don`t do nothing.
60% of all EVE players sell isks on ebay its easy found but your GM`s do only what they need .
its not to all GM`s but CCP if you create this cool game meby you can work for peoples who give every months money ????????????
Yeah well, just imagine a lot of chinese players
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YZAAR
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Posted - 2005.08.31 23:33:00 -
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If you want to kill a Freighter make a blockade with Battleships, Support ships, bubbles, drones and what u want.. But a login trap...shame on you. nothing to be proud...
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Vince Draken
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Posted - 2005.08.31 23:42:00 -
[97]
Originally by: Ruffio Sepico
Originally by: Vince Draken
Originally by: Corak
CCP you can work or you can only do **** in this game if your GM is ideots or they work on 1 said its your problem .
we send your GM`s lot petitions about logoff and login tactic who use enemies 1 year ago and your GM`s send back - this is not exploit !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
+ meby 10 BS RAT crashed at gate atm in this pache its can be posible 5 times in 1 h .
if you replace this friter to The Five member meby you replace us losts BS who we lost in wars VS XANADU or in HED-GP i remember XIF members login when we be in fight vs same forses and kill ~6 us BS ????????????? (we send petition to your GM`s and they answere be - its not exploit !!!!!!!!
WTF you do CCP ????
want baned me go do this but your GM`s not play clear its 100% .
i can post lot things were they work on 1 said .
when tis last pache be in game we lost lot of POSes were [5] use drones and we send lot petitions and don`t got unswere from GM`s only they send to us - this is not us problem *GM`s .
your GM`s have alts who mining and sell isks on ebay and you don`t do nothing.
60% of all EVE players sell isks on ebay its easy found but your GM`s do only what they need .
its not to all GM`s but CCP if you create this cool game meby you can work for peoples who give every months money ????????????
Yeah well, just imagine a lot of chinese players
Not laughing at the grammer, just the redicliusness of it. I think someones smoked a little too much tbfh.
I dont know what part is better, the ebaying GM part, or the part where he suggests they 'crashed', despite them admitting they pulled a login trap.
Either way, its great stuff and saved to a text file for future references.
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MOHOMAX
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Posted - 2005.08.31 23:52:00 -
[98]
Originally by: YZAAR
If you want to kill a Freighter make a blockade with Battleships, Support ships, bubbles, drones and what u want.. But a login trap...shame on you. nothing to be proud...
If you want you freighter to arrive intact to its destination have a proper escort traveling with it. Scouts, shmouts ... Just admit it, you did not have enough firepower to protect 2bil ship designed to for cargo capacity, not for combat. Act like men, accept you loss and continue to fight.
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Randorial
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Posted - 2005.08.31 23:54:00 -
[99]
Originally by: MOHOMAX
Originally by: YZAAR
If you want to kill a Freighter make a blockade with Battleships, Support ships, bubbles, drones and what u want.. But a login trap...shame on you. nothing to be proud...
If you want you freighter to arrive intact to its destination have a proper escort traveling with it. Scouts, shmouts ... Just admit it, you did not have enough firepower to protect 2bil ship designed to for cargo capacity, not for combat. Act like men, accept you loss and continue to fight.
The thing is, even if they brought 40 bs
There could be 60 logged off. Which makes the game ghey. funny seeing russians use "debatable" tactics.
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Virgo I'Platonicus
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Posted - 2005.08.31 23:56:00 -
[100]
Originally by: FOEHAMMER006
You guys are upset that you lost a freighter, Get over it. You lost it, done and done. The GMs said themselves they saw no illegal activity, So get over it. End of story.
We didnt start this thread. We lost a useful and expensive ship. I think we have the right to be a little annoyed when some1 starts making thread like this afterwards.
br,
V.
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j0sephine
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Posted - 2005.09.01 00:01:00 -
[101]
"Scouts, shmouts ... Just admit it, you did not have enough firepower to protect 2bil ship designed to for cargo capacity, not for combat."
If the protection was so inadequate, why stoop to the desperate login trap tactics in the first place..?
Rod wins the thread, btw. >>;
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The Slayer
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Posted - 2005.09.01 00:02:00 -
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Bad tactics well used. Had it been left at that I spose I might have given props for the first freighter kill, but to drag it into the forums like this..... low.
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ezzle
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Posted - 2005.09.01 00:09:00 -
[103]
Double standards in EVE?
Surely you jest!
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IamBen
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Posted - 2005.09.01 00:16:00 -
[104]
"Why dont you just ban all accounts from russian speaking players. Seems that we are too hardcore, to mess with."
lol.
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thoradh
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Posted - 2005.09.01 00:28:00 -
[105]
Edited by: thoradh on 01/09/2005 00:29:45
War is hell.
Good kill RAT
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MOHOMAX
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Posted - 2005.09.01 01:15:00 -
[106]
Originally by: j0sephine
"Scouts, shmouts ... Just admit it, you did not have enough firepower to protect 2bil ship designed to for cargo capacity, not for combat."
If the protection was so inadequate, why stoop to the desperate login trap tactics in the first place..?
Desperate tactics? Pah-leez. Blocade, scores of battleships, bubbless ... Not even [5] would try and run a freighter through this, they use scouts, right? In fact, the _only_ way to kill a freighter is a surprise attack.
Now, as it was said many times on this thread, this is a war (which we did not start, BTW). There is a warfare concept called "risk management". [5] did not have to run a freighter through 0.0. We don't do it. This has nothing to do with cowardise. Overconfidence gets punished. They gambled, they lost, nothing more to it.
Hint: if you really have to run a freighter through 0.0 do it at 6am Moscow time. Hey, this is using "game mechanics" of sorts, right?
Desperate .. huh ... Running to GMs crying is desperate (for an alliance of 1135 members)
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Metal Dude
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Posted - 2005.09.01 01:21:00 -
[107]
What goes around, comes around. Enough said. Good kill.
The truth will set you free
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FOEHAMMER006
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Posted - 2005.09.01 01:29:00 -
[108]
Originally by: Metal Dude
What goes around, comes around. Enough said. Good kill.
Finally someone that can accept a loss.
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StiZum Hilidii
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Posted - 2005.09.01 01:30:00 -
[109]
Edited by: StiZum Hilidii on 01/09/2005 01:30:44
Originally by: MOHOMAX
Originally by: j0sephine
"Scouts, shmouts ... Just admit it, you did not have enough firepower to protect 2bil ship designed to for cargo capacity, not for combat."
If the protection was so inadequate, why stoop to the desperate login trap tactics in the first place..?
Desperate tactics? Pah-leez. Blocade, scores of battleships, bubbless ... Not even [5] would try and run a freighter through this, they use scouts, right? In fact, the _only_ way to kill a freighter is a surprise attack.
Now, as it was said many times on this thread, this is a war (which we did not start, BTW). There is a warfare concept called "risk management". [5] did not have to run a freighter through 0.0. We don't do it. This has nothing to do with cowardise. Overconfidence gets punished. They gambled, they lost, nothing more to it.
Hint: if you really have to run a freighter through 0.0 do it at 6am Moscow time. Hey, this is using "game mechanics" of sorts, right?
Desperate .. huh ... Running to GMs crying is desperate (for an alliance of 1135 members)
i think after what you wrote about 6am moscow time we all know your style.
you said 6am moscow time was game mechanics
LOGIN TRAPS ARE NOT.. i wrote that in capitals cos i know it takes a while for something to get through to you guys.
but yes your right about the 5am moscow thing. thats the only mechanic russian alliance knows. wait until all enemy are logged of and then proceed to erect pos.
funny we were told at the begining of this omg russians know how to fight.
well tbh i dunno what happened to russian alliance but they have yet to put up a proper fight for their space.
RAT you scored a high cost kill with very questionable tactics. nothing more.
well see you on the battle field rat
well see your handy work red alliance / shame we wont see you in person though :(
STAN
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j0sephine
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Posted - 2005.09.01 02:43:00 -
[110]
"Desperate tactics? Pah-leez. Blocade, scores of battleships, bubbless ... Not even [5] would try and run a freighter through this, they use scouts, right? In fact, the _only_ way to kill a freighter is a surprise attack."
The bold part rings about true; the desperate tactics part would be, that the only way of organizing surprise attack you were capable of, was a login trap.
Kinda sucks first freighter to be blown up in game went in lame way... but oh well.
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Abdalion
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Posted - 2005.09.01 02:44:00 -
[111]
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Abdalion
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Posted - 2005.09.01 02:49:00 -
[112]
Post will remain locked for posting private communications with a GM.
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