Yeah, so having just read the dev blog my understanding is as follows:

If you have Battlecruiser Lvl 5 now (which I do) and also the racial cruiser skill to level 3 or above, you will receive the racial battlecruiser skill at Lvl 5 to reflect the fact you could fly these ships at that skill level before.

So, currently I stand to gain Caldari, Amarr, and Minmatar Battlecruiser at Lvl 5, as I have the racial cruiser skills to 4, 5, 4 respectively.

Would it not be prudent to train up to Gallente Cruiser Lvl 3 now, thereby gaining Gallente Battlecruiser Lvl 5 in the Summer? Would that be considered exploitative, and if so what can/will CCP do about it?

Devs/moderators: This isn't an aggressive question, I'm just pointing out that for a few hours training now, I can be flying Gallente BC's around like a badass in a few months time, for relatively less time investment then would previously have been the case.

Good. Obviously now I have BC 5 I will have access to them as soon as I have Gallente (TWO L'S DARZIA YOU TOOL) cruiser Lvl 3 anyways - but it feels cheap all the same. Like receiving a free LVL 5 skill that I haven't truly 'earned'. Not that I care!

Uh, that's not exploitative at all, because that's exactly what you get now if you train the skill. You're not getting anything new.

I think the reason he's asking is because, IIRC, the level requirement for cruisers is going down from 4 to 3. So if you only train cruisers to 3, you CAN'T fly the battlecruisers now, but you would, supposedly, be able to fly them then.

I think the reason he's asking is because, IIRC, the level requirement for cruisers is going down from 4 to 3. So if you only train cruisers to 3, you CAN'T fly the battlecruisers now, but you would, supposedly, be able to fly them then.

I'm talking about the gaining of an entire LVL 5 and all the corresponding SP that will bring - I assume it isn't going to count as a '0 SP' skill if you qualify for it when the changes come around?

EDIT: In fact, in my case 3 LVL 5 skills.

Yeah, assuming you get the full "reimbursement" you get 6,144,000 SP, but so what? You're not getting anything that you didn't already have before, technically. The only real difference is that you won't have to retrain skills to fly the ships you currently can, and your clone might cost more than it does now.

No, it's not exploitative. Lots of people are doing it, including myself.

I haven't read the blog in detail, it may be the case that the skills will actually have a lower multiplier and as such are quicker to train?

Yes, the new skills will have lower multipliers and will be easier to train.

But, overall, training all races to level 5 in their respective battlecruiser skills (or destroyer skills) will take more SP than the current generic placeholder skill. As such, it is of interest if you intend to fly those ships to have all the prerequisite skills in place so you will gain the individual racial ship skills when the conversion is done.

Yes, the new skills will have lower multipliers and will be easier to train.

Seems I'll be the only person to avoid this.

Why? Because you want more skills to train later?

No because I am never going to fly a battlecruiser.


So instead of spending 35 days on a skill I'm not going to use. I will instead spend those 35 days on skills I am going to use.

Seems like a good plan and it helps keep my clone prices down.

No because I am never going to fly a battlecruiser.


So instead of spending 35 days on a skill I'm not going to use. I will instead spend those 35 days on skills I am going to use.

Seems like a good plan and it helps keep my clone prices down.

Barring of course the possibility that you may change your mind.

No because I am never going to fly a battlecruiser.


So instead of spending 35 days on a skill I'm not going to use. I will instead spend those 35 days on skills I am going to use.

Seems like a good plan and it helps keep my clone prices down.

soooo only cruisers class and below at best?