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Archibald Thistlewaite III
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Posted - 2013.03.27 15:46:00 -
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Angelique Duchemin wrote:
No because I am never going to fly a battlecruiser.
So instead of spending 35 days on a skill I'm not going to use. I will instead spend those 35 days on skills I am going to use.
Seems like a good plan and it helps keep my clone prices down
Plan:
Tackler frigate
T1 Logistics(now)
Tackler Cruiser (23 days left)
T2 Logistics (about 138 days left)
Carrier (about 360 days left)
Master the Carrier 2-3 years or so maybe.
In between that I might also learn blockade running and covert ops scanning for sites.
I'd read the Devblog. You will need to train (racial) battlecruiser in order to get into carriers. Unless you quickly get into one now before the changes. |
Angelique Duchemin
Serenity Prime
Kraken.
349
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Posted - 2013.03.27 15:51:00 -
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Archibald Thistlewaite III wrote:Angelique Duchemin wrote:
No because I am never going to fly a battlecruiser.
So instead of spending 35 days on a skill I'm not going to use. I will instead spend those 35 days on skills I am going to use.
Seems like a good plan and it helps keep my clone prices down
Plan:
Tackler frigate
T1 Logistics(now)
Tackler Cruiser (23 days left)
T2 Logistics (about 138 days left)
Carrier (about 360 days left)
Master the Carrier 2-3 years or so maybe.
In between that I might also learn blockade running and covert ops scanning for sites.
I'd read the Devblog. You will need to train (racial) battlecruiser in order to get into carriers. Unless you quickly get into one now before the changes.
I have read it. I have no problem with doing Amarr battle cruiser 3 on the way to the Carrier.
We miss you Saede. |
Nerath Naaris
Pink Winged Unicorns for Peace Love and Anarchy
401
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Posted - 2013.03.27 16:07:00 -
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Personally, I can-Št wait for the tears from the guys who
- STILL will be caught completely by surprise by those changes, more than a year after they were first announced, and those that
- forgot to update their clones.
It will be like Incarna.
Forum-unbanned since 2011.10.20.
Mangala Solaris for CSM 8 |
Callic Veratar
Power of the Phoenix
343
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Posted - 2013.03.27 16:52:00 -
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Nerath Naaris wrote:It will be like Incarna.
The few hundred people who didn't notice might feel that way. The rest of us will be able to call them idiots and tell them to pay attention.
DirectX 11, it's not rocket appliance! |
Montevius Williams
Eclipse Industrial Inc
429
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Posted - 2013.03.27 16:57:00 -
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Darzia Bien wrote:James Amril-Kesh wrote:Darzia Bien wrote:De'Veldrin wrote:James Amril-Kesh wrote:Uh, that's not exploitative at all, because that's exactly what you get now if you train the skill. You're not getting anything new. I think the reason he's asking is because, IIRC, the level requirement for cruisers is going down from 4 to 3. So if you only train cruisers to 3, you CAN'T fly the battlecruisers now, but you would, supposedly, be able to fly them then. I'm talking about the gaining of an entire LVL 5 and all the corresponding SP that will bring - I assume it isn't going to count as a '0 SP' skill if you qualify for it when the changes come around? EDIT: In fact, in my case 3 LVL 5 skills. Yeah, assuming you get the full "reimbursement" you get 6,144,000 SP, but so what? You're not getting anything that you didn't already have before, technically. The only real difference is that you won't have to retrain skills to fly the ships you currently can, and your clone might cost more than it does now. I'm getting SP that people who later start the game won't - they will have to train them like we did. Assuming the skills will still have the same multiplier, we're talking 20-25 days to train it depending on implants - PER LVL 5. Three of them. I haven't read the blog in detail, it may be the case that the skills will actually have a lower multiplier and as such are quicker to train?
I think you are overthinking this.
"The American Government indoctrination system known as public education has been relentlessly churning out socialists for over 20 years". - TravisWB |
Velicitia
Arma Artificer
1308
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Posted - 2013.03.27 17:17:00 -
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Montevius Williams wrote:
I think you are overthinking this.
confirmed.
One of the bitter points of a good bittervet is the realisation that all those SP don't really do much, and that the newbie is having much more fun with what little he has. - Tippia
Malcanis for CSM8 |
Doctor Ape MD
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.03.27 17:17:00 -
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Darzia Bien wrote:James Amril-Kesh wrote:Darzia Bien wrote:De'Veldrin wrote:James Amril-Kesh wrote:Uh, that's not exploitative at all, because that's exactly what you get now if you train the skill. You're not getting anything new. I think the reason he's asking is because, IIRC, the level requirement for cruisers is going down from 4 to 3. So if you only train cruisers to 3, you CAN'T fly the battlecruisers now, but you would, supposedly, be able to fly them then. I'm talking about the gaining of an entire LVL 5 and all the corresponding SP that will bring - I assume it isn't going to count as a '0 SP' skill if you qualify for it when the changes come around? EDIT: In fact, in my case 3 LVL 5 skills. Yeah, assuming you get the full "reimbursement" you get 6,144,000 SP, but so what? You're not getting anything that you didn't already have before, technically. The only real difference is that you won't have to retrain skills to fly the ships you currently can, and your clone might cost more than it does now. I'm getting SP that people who later start the game won't - they will have to train them like we did. Assuming the skills will still have the same multiplier, we're talking 20-25 days to train it depending on implants - PER LVL 5. Three of them. I haven't read the blog in detail, it may be the case that the skills will actually have a lower multiplier and as such are quicker to train?
You are definitely overthinking this. All of those extra SP don't allow you to do anything you couldn't already do.
Read this dev blog
People who are new to the game will have to train each of them individually, this is true, but there are many other things that are changing to make things easier for newer players as well.
For instance, new characters will only have to train to 3 to move on to the next ship type instead of training to level 4 in a ship type they are not interested in. Also, All tech 2 ships requiring skill training conditions from other tech 2 ships will be cut. This will make it easier for new pilots to get into some T2 ships. |
Ersahi Kir
Freelance Mining Company
52
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Posted - 2013.03.28 16:11:00 -
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I had a hard time making myself train galente cruiser skill because most galente ships look like butt. I finally caved because the myrm looks neat.
I have a frigate/destroyer pilot who's not going to be training battle cruisers though. If he ever maxes out frigates/destroyers he's getting moved to another account and I'm closing that one. |
Cynter DeVries
Spheroidal Projections
461
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Posted - 2013.03.28 20:01:00 -
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How can it be an exploit if CCP has been encouraging everyone for some time to train up these skills in order to gain from the policy?
When they first mentioned "if you can fly it now, you'll be able to fly it then" they said everyone should train up now to get free SPs. |
Galaxy Pig
New Order Logistics
CODE.
712
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Posted - 2013.03.28 20:07:00 -
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Why are you questioning it?!? They're handing out level 5 skills! |
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