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Erotica 1
Krypteia Operations
27
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Posted - 2013.03.27 14:08:00 -
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WARNING
After being trolled countless times in local chat; After being threatened numerous time with slanderous forum posts and seeing nothing at all....
I have decided to create a place that such awful accusations can be made more easily- here!
I am a firm believer that it a troll does not have pictures, then it did not happen.
After all, I trust my fellow capsuleers, my peers, to vet any of these awful allegations.
So please, PLEASE, if you have PROOF that I have stolen funds from you, please post your wallet pics here.
Please keep in mind that chat logs are not allowed per the rules (I'm still looking out for you, despite the ill language towards me.)
Of course, if you have received all that was promised, I encourage you to post that as well.
Let's let the COMMUNITY decide the truth!
......................................................................................................................................
BACKSTORY
For those of you that are confused, let me provide a little bit of a backstory.
I never knew about or tried the isk doublers myself until I had around 1 billion isk in my wallet. I found that there were 2 types:
1. scammers. These people would promise to double your isk but never send a single isk back. Shameful!
2. Smart Scammers- these scammers would double small amounts like 1 or 2 million isk, and never double the higher amounts.
I decided there must be a better way- a way to allow people to gamble, but in a way that would be fair and honest. I started the first truly honest isk double service. I was very aware that it might not work, but I had to try anyway. It was a success! People just have to read the rules in my bio and they get paid out. Believe it or not, there are lots of people who glance at the rules quickly, or don't look at all. Many of those send ineligible amounts. I won't go into TOO much detail, you will just have to read the rules and see if YOU can figure it out.
... I had been broke for so long before that. I would always plateau at around 10-25m isk and spend it all, then lose it all with my fail fits. I got a gift of 400m isk and played the market up to 1 billion. Even then, I plateaued until I started my business.
Now I am living the good life, making lots of isk from "slow" players, or those challenged by the English language, and distributing much of it to the smart players like you! The best part is there is so much "dumb isk" that you and I both profit!
CONCLUSION
For my loyal clients, please post proof, or at least support for me!
For the TROLLS, please post PROOF that I have scammed you or IT DIDN'T HAPPEN See Bio for isk doubling rules. -áIf you didn't read bio, chances are you helped fund those who did. |

Tah'ris Khlador
Space Ghosts. Break-A-Wish Foundation
717
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Posted - 2013.03.27 14:16:00 -
[2] - Quote
Erotica 1 doubled my money. I made a fortune! I was quite surprised actually... I'm Denzel Washington. |

NEONOVUS
Saablast Followers
407
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Posted - 2013.03.27 14:23:00 -
[3] - Quote
She didst double mine moneyse I guess some one here actually took my advice on how to make lots of ISK fast. |

Otti Ottig
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2013.03.27 14:29:00 -
[4] - Quote
I am god, if you dont believe me... PLEASE POST PROOF or didnt happen |

izuzuzan
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2013.03.27 14:44:00 -
[5] - Quote
damn there was about 30 seconds when i thought ...iv just lost 2 billl...and then wallet flashed BOOM im right thankyou for being such a angel you have made my eve life a couple of bill better ....YOU STAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |

Tera iG
Trojan Legion Fidelas Constans
1
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Posted - 2013.03.27 15:22:00 -
[6] - Quote
video proof you scammed me now can i have my 300 mill back.
click here for the proof |

Erotica 1
Krypteia Operations
27
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Posted - 2013.03.27 15:39:00 -
[7] - Quote
Looks fake to me, but in any case, here is my response:
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=6304&p=35 See Bio for isk doubling rules. -áIf you didn't read bio, chances are you helped fund those who did. |

2Sexy4MyShip
Perkone Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2013.03.27 16:00:00 -
[8] - Quote
video looks pretty real, and the guy claiming you doubled his 2bil is clearly your alt , surprised people still fall for this |

Tera iG
Trojan Legion Fidelas Constans
1
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Posted - 2013.03.27 16:04:00 -
[9] - Quote
2Sexy4MyShip wrote:video looks pretty real, and the guy claiming you doubled his 2bil is clearly your alt , surprised people still fall for this
i have a video and 3 pics if proof |

Ristlin Wakefield
Wanderers of the Eternal Darkness Eternal Pretorian Alliance
305
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Posted - 2013.03.27 16:24:00 -
[10] - Quote
2Sexy4MyShip wrote:video looks pretty real, and the guy claiming you doubled his 2bil is clearly your alt , surprised people still fall for this
He actually doubled my money. It's basically roulette with Erotica -- sometimes you win, sometimes you lose :D I have a lover, her name is EVE. I see her every night and all she asks in return is that I have a pilot's license. |

Tera iG
Trojan Legion Fidelas Constans
1
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Posted - 2013.03.27 16:27:00 -
[11] - Quote
Ristlin Wakefield wrote:2Sexy4MyShip wrote:video looks pretty real, and the guy claiming you doubled his 2bil is clearly your alt , surprised people still fall for this He actually doubled my money. It's basically roulette with Erotica -- sometimes you win, sometimes you lose :D
she/he is claiming that i didnt send the isk when the video prove i did
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Rex Aparte
The Scope Gallente Federation
29
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Posted - 2013.03.27 16:43:00 -
[12] - Quote
Here is my conspiracy theory, because it is utterly laughable that anyone should actually participate in such scams. Tera iG is your alt. You keep posting with him not to point out the 300m loss, but so people will look further down the list and see where you doubled his 50m and 100m deposits. |

Tera iG
Trojan Legion Fidelas Constans
1
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Posted - 2013.03.27 16:56:00 -
[13] - Quote
Rex Aparte wrote:Here is my conspiracy theory, because it is utterly laughable that anyone should actually participate in such scams. Tera iG is your alt. You keep posting with him not to point out the 300m loss, but so people will look further down the list and see where you doubled his 50m and 100m deposits.
im not her alt and she did scam me after i sent her 50 mill i sent 300 and she scammed me |

Surfin's PlunderBunny
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
9852
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Posted - 2013.03.27 18:36:00 -
[14] - Quote
My isk was doubled, I'll never have to work again  "Little ginger moron" ~David Hasselhoff-á |

Luffleg
Big Diggers Trifectas Syndicate
2
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Posted - 2013.03.27 18:40:00 -
[15] - Quote
Dramatic title: Another conspiracy theory!
So, I decided to try this very risky "Game of Iskies" - One of the most frightening "Double isk"-scams to date. I'm not a wealthy guy, but I had enough to make this little experiment.
I deposited 200mil to Erotica's wallet, much to my surprise I actually got the 400mil back pretty quickly, followed by a mail from Erotica giving me 'Thanks' and told me he were going out for a smoke. This is where I had to decide, keep the money or risk it all going further? I risked it, for the community I thought.
He was away for a few minutes and when he came back apparently his wallet had been spammed with .10's and he couldn't verify my deposit.This is where I understood what was truly going on and indeed confirmed the end result of this experiment. As you know, how hard is it to confirm a deposit on, let's say, EVEMon? Takes about 10 seconds, this is where I truly knew that I was stuck in the mud for good.
As I decided to keep going, I needed to PLEX myself some fast iskies in order to reveal his little ".10 wallet-spam-can't-verify-deposit"-stunt.
After about an hour of waiting for the PLEX I was ready to give him another 800mil isk. (Am I crazy you ask? Yes, extremely so. I had already lost the money I had, and again, I might as well go all out as I originally intended.)
So, I made sure he was "watching" and "taking note" of his balance. I made the deposit on his go, he asked me to enter a "tip" on his bounty so I did that as well, I deposited my last 42mil.
TL;DR - So, I gave him some iskies in return for some juicy evidence of his little project. Mostly because I knew that the evidence already provided was lack-luster and could easily be framed as "troll attempts", "failed deposits" or "people don't read the rules.", etc.
Feel free to PM me if you want the "full story" - And if you want to help me recover the losses I've made, feel free to do so. However, don't feel obliged - I did this knowingly and I expect nothing in return from anyone.
PS: I know that this will quickly be accused asa troll attempt, "false accusations" and all that jazz. Just ask yourself one quick question, why would I spend this amount of time to achieve something if it wasn't valid? What do I have to gain, why would I care? --- Exactly. ;)
Much love, Luffleg.
The Album of pictures: http://imgur.com/a/6oPdu
Pictures: http://i.imgur.com/yKZh1QRh.jpg http://i.imgur.com/il4UVU6h.jpg http://i.imgur.com/Wn63RIJh.jpg http://i.imgur.com/ftEnsCRh.jpg http://i.imgur.com/Zyz8jh2h.jpg http://i.imgur.com/aybmPXqh.jpg http://i.imgur.com/M0LWCjq.jpg http://i.imgur.com/Qnn3htw.jpg http://i.imgur.com/GsDSZhY.jpg
Also, just to cover as much angles I can. Here is my timezone which explains +1 hour on transaction logs. http://i.imgur.com/Kl5Xinb.jpg |

Tera iG
Trojan Legion Fidelas Constans
1
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Posted - 2013.03.27 18:59:00 -
[16] - Quote
Luffleg wrote:Dramatic title: Another conspiracy theory!So, I decided to try this very risky "Game of Iskies" - One of the most frightening "Double isk"-scams to date. I'm not a wealthy guy, but I had enough to make this little experiment. I deposited 200mil to Erotica's wallet, much to my surprise I actually got the 400mil back pretty quickly, followed by a mail from Erotica giving me 'Thanks' and told me he were going out for a smoke. This is where I had to decide, keep the money or risk it all going further? I risked it, for the community I thought. He was away for a few minutes and when he came back apparently his wallet had been spammed with .10's and he couldn't verify my deposit.This is where I understood what was truly going on and indeed confirmed the end result of this experiment. As you know, how hard is it to confirm a deposit on, let's say, EVEMon? Takes about 10 seconds, this is where I truly knew that I was stuck in the mud for good. As I decided to keep going, I needed to PLEX myself some fast iskies in order to reveal his little ".10 wallet-spam-can't-verify-deposit"-stunt. After about an hour of waiting for the PLEX I was ready to give him another 800mil isk. (Am I crazy you ask? Yes, extremely so. I had already lost the money I had, and again, I might as well go all out as I originally intended.) So, I made sure he was "watching" and "taking note" of his balance. I made the deposit on his go, he asked me to enter a "tip" on his bounty so I did that as well, I deposited my last 42mil. TL;DR - So, I gave him some iskies in return for some juicy evidence of his little project. Mostly because I knew that the evidence already provided was lack-luster and could easily be framed as "troll attempts", "failed deposits" or "people don't read the rules.", etc. Feel free to PM me if you want the "full story" - And if you want to help me recover the losses I've made, feel free to do so. However, don't feel obliged - I did this knowingly and I expect nothing in return from anyone. PS: I know that this will quickly be accused asa troll attempt, "false accusations" and all that jazz. Just ask yourself one quick question, why would I spend this amount of time to achieve something if it wasn't valid? What do I have to gain, why would I care? --- Exactly. ;) Much love, Luffleg. The Album of pictures: http://imgur.com/a/6oPduPictures: http://i.imgur.com/yKZh1QRh.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/il4UVU6h.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/Wn63RIJh.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/ftEnsCRh.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/Zyz8jh2h.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/aybmPXqh.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/M0LWCjq.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/Qnn3htw.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/GsDSZhY.jpgAlso, just to cover as much angles I can. Here is my timezone which explains +1 hour on transaction logs. http://i.imgur.com/Kl5Xinb.jpg
thats what he said to me now he says i need to send him another 300mill |

Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
2949
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Posted - 2013.03.27 19:38:00 -
[17] - Quote
Legit ISK doubler.
Now I KNOW ive seen everything. Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings? |

Kimo Khan
76
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Posted - 2013.03.27 19:50:00 -
[18] - Quote
What I see is you gave 50mil, got back 100mil (+ 50 mil) you gave 100 mil got back 200 mil (+150mil)
You gave 300 mil got back nothing. Net loss 150mil not 300mil. |

Boom Boom Longtime
EVE Corporation 6908469858
340
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Posted - 2013.03.27 20:45:00 -
[19] - Quote
I find it rather comical the lengths some of you unsavories on the internet go towards endeavouring to unjustly sully and besmirch the name of a legitimate and generous business women.
Those of you who are posting falsehood "smokescreen" evidence should hold your heads in shame.
Keep up the good work Erotica, and ignore the jealous capsuleers who can't comprehend how giving to the community rather than taking from it can be a rewarding and enriching personal experience. Fools and their Interstellar Kredits are Soon Parted. |

Chris Winter
Zephyr Corp Black Thorne Alliance
1
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Posted - 2013.03.28 00:38:00 -
[20] - Quote
Kimo Khan wrote:What I see is you gave 50mil, got back 100mil (+ 50 mil) you gave 100 mil got back 200 mil (+150mil) You gave 300 mil got back nothing. Net loss 150mil not 300mil. Congratulations, Tera iG, you can't follow rules.
Notably, in her rules: "Each investment must be at least 2x what you received just prior."
So, your 100mil was technically against her rules (since you'd just received 100, so the minimum would've been 200), but she was apparently feeling generous and doubled it anyway.
Your 300mil was against the rules as well, since the minimum for you to send at that point would've been 400mil. |

Surfin's PlunderBunny
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
9859
|
Posted - 2013.03.28 02:17:00 -
[21] - Quote
Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:Legit ISK doubler.
Now I KNOW ive seen everything.
Have you ever seen a man eat his own head?  "Little ginger moron" ~David Hasselhoff-á |

Singeabooty Raj
Marcabian 5th Invasion Fleet
407
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Posted - 2013.03.28 03:37:00 -
[22] - Quote
Surfin's PlunderBunny wrote:Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:Legit ISK doubler.
Now I KNOW ive seen everything. Have you ever seen a man eat his own head?  A p4nis of size, a few ribs removed and being acrobatic and i hear tales of it being possible Black Man with Goggles |

Aldrex
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
3
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Posted - 2013.03.28 04:27:00 -
[23] - Quote
So just had a run in with this "legit" ISK doubler. Figured I'd give it a shot, take a risk, and see how the game is played. Since I've played, I'd like to now share exactly what the scam is to those allured by it:
- First she reels you in with you making a small (50mill to maybe 200 mill) donation she does indeed double, along with the claims by other people who had her truthfully double their small amounts.
- The trick comes directly after this when you start feeling secure and safe in this being an actual "business".
- Maybe not in your second, but at least definitely in your third when you've sent her a good amount of isk, you'll find her not sending you anything back.
- When confronted about this, she states something akin to "Oh, I got spammed and didn't see it. Send me the same amount and a screenshot and I'll triple it".
- This is where her real scam begins. You've already sent a large amount that she fully intends on keeping, and now she has you were you possibly think she's legit given she's already done what she promised.
- So you're considering her proposal, but regardless if you give her more isk, you've already fallen in her trap. You can either cut your losses or dig yourself deeper. Either way she's not paying you anything.
- Furthermore, when confronted, she will continue to insist that you are actually scamming her. That if you weren't, you'd send her the isk she asked for. Nevermind the fact that she would lose more by simply giving you your money back, or even just simply tripling it as she promised.
- Also, she'll claim that she gets photoshoped images all the time and can't tell if it's shopped or not unless she has the duplicate amount to compare against, which sounds like utter BS if ever there was any. If I could shop it once, I could shop it twice.
- When pressed on the logic of all this, and in fact even presented with an API key showing the exact transaction through EVE's own site, she still feigns ignorance, claims you're trying to trick and scam her, and demands you send her even more isk as proof of your sincerity.
TL;DR:
Your first low amount of ISK you send might return double (provided you follow her rules). Any ISK sent of sizable amount, however, will be promptly kept, and when questioned she'll actually accuse the accuser of scamming, ignoring all logic and proof, demanding you send her even more isk.
Just figure'd I'd enlighten those who were curious as to the true nature and inner workings of her "business".
P.S. You might could scam the scammer though by creating alts more than 4 weeks old and sending her the min bid only once following her rules in an attempt to beat her at her own game. Most people can make more money doing other things for 4 weeks, but still, if everyone were to use their alts to beat her at her own game, she'd soon be out of ISK and everyone would be a modest bit richer. |

Erotica 1
Krypteia Operations
27
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Posted - 2013.03.28 05:37:00 -
[24] - Quote
Aldrex wrote:So just had a run in with this "legit" ISK doubler. Figured I'd give it a shot, take a risk, and see how the game is played. Since I've played, I'd like to now share exactly what the scam is to those allured by it:
- First she reels you in with you making a small (50mill to maybe 200 mill) donation she does indeed double, along with the claims by other people who had her truthfully double their small amounts.
- The trick comes directly after this when you start feeling secure and safe in this being an actual "business".
- Maybe not in your second, but at least definitely in your third when you've sent her a good amount of isk, you'll find her not sending you anything back.
- When confronted about this, she states something akin to "Oh, I got spammed and didn't see it. Send me the same amount and a screenshot and I'll triple it".
- This is where her real scam begins. You've already sent a large amount that she fully intends on keeping, and now she has you were you possibly think she's legit given she's already done what she promised.
- So you're considering her proposal, but regardless if you give her more isk, you've already fallen in her trap. You can either cut your losses or dig yourself deeper. Either way she's not paying you anything.
- Furthermore, when confronted, she will continue to insist that you are actually scamming her. That if you weren't, you'd send her the isk she asked for. Nevermind the fact that she would lose more by simply giving you your money back, or even just simply tripling it as she promised.
- Also, she'll claim that she gets photoshoped images all the time and can't tell if it's shopped or not unless she has the duplicate amount to compare against, which sounds like utter BS if ever there was any. If I could shop it once, I could shop it twice.
- When pressed on the logic of all this, and in fact even presented with an API key showing the exact transaction through EVE's own site, she still feigns ignorance, claims you're trying to trick and scam her, and demands you send her even more isk as proof of your sincerity.
TL;DR: Your first low amount of ISK you send might return double (provided you follow her rules). Any ISK sent of sizable amount, however, will be promptly kept, and when questioned she'll actually accuse the accuser of scamming, ignoring all logic and proof, demanding you send her even more isk. Just figure'd I'd enlighten those who were curious as to the true nature and inner workings of her "business". P.S. You might could scam the scammer though by creating alts more than 4 weeks old and sending her the min bid only once following her rules in an attempt to beat her at her own game. Most people can make more money doing other things for 4 weeks, but still, if everyone were to use their alts to beat her at her own game, she'd soon be out of ISK and everyone would be a modest bit richer.
Rubbish. I stayed up for hours with this client to try and resolve matters. How many "legit" doublers offer such service? Most block you and keep everything. I spent HOURS trying to negotiate through our hiccup and he kept demanding I give him the world or he would "expose" me.
Notice there are no pics. Shameful!
See Bio for isk doubling rules. -áIf you didn't read bio, chances are you helped fund those who did. |

Aldrex
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
4
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Posted - 2013.03.28 12:25:00 -
[25] - Quote
Erotica 1 wrote: Rubbish. I stayed up for hours with this client to try and resolve matters. How many "legit" doublers offer such service? Most block you and keep everything. I spent HOURS trying to negotiate through our hiccup and he kept demanding I give him the world or he would "expose" me.
Notice there are no pics. Shameful!
I can provide chat logs, api, and pics of my wallet should anyone request. I love how much stock you claim to put into photos and then claim they're all shopped when photos are provided. Quite amusing really. |

Nova Satar
Rekall Incorporated Sinewave Alliance
74
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Posted - 2013.03.28 13:19:00 -
[26] - Quote
the trick, actually, is to post using alts in this awful thread claiming you have "worked out the rules" in the hope idiots will think "well i may aswell just double my 50mil and be done with it."
|

Aldrex
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
4
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Posted - 2013.03.28 13:24:00 -
[27] - Quote
Nova Satar wrote:the trick, actually, is to post using alts in this awful thread claiming you have "worked out the rules" in the hope idiots will think "well i may aswell just double my 50mil and be done with it."
Well, I explained how she operates. Any money you send her is still liable to be taken. I just stated, as the time of that posting, she does honor the first small amount of isk sent so long as it follows her rules. She has to in order to reel you in for bigger amounts. She's still a scammer, and you be aware of that if you do send her anything, even if it's just trying to get that first small amount back. |

Tiger Armani
Mialto Corp The Last Chancers.
38
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Posted - 2013.03.28 14:02:00 -
[28] - Quote
Just mind boggling that so many eve players actually falls to this scam with all the evidence.
One more proof that mankind is doomed. |

Rex Aparte
The Scope Gallente Federation
29
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Posted - 2013.03.28 14:24:00 -
[29] - Quote
As a result of this thread, I took it upon myself to get to the bottom of it all. As with any good detective work, I decided to begin at the beginning. Since isk doubling is a well known scam, someone making a legit business out of it seemed sketchy at best. How would one even attempt it? Delving into my target's bio, I found my answer: rules. It appeared on the outside that this was more than your average "send me some isk and I'll double it" scheme. I thought to myself, "self, can you follow some simple rules? If not we need to scrap this right now." Self said to me, "Let's do the damn thang." I transferred a cool 1 billion isk in from my main and the fun began. I logged in and began the process of decoding the intricate rules of this Most Dangerous Game. 50-500m isk get 2x back. 600m-1b get 3x back! 3-5b get 5x back! "WOW" I said, my lust for free isk overcoming me. But wait, what's that in the fine print... Each investment must be at least (this is important) 2x what you received just prior, 3 investments per player. Time to dance the dance. I mapped out my conquest, If my first donation is 100m I'd get 200m back. Okay, so 100m out, 200m in. Then I suppose jump to 600m, which is at least 2x 200m, get 1.8b back? So now I need to invest at least 2x 1.8b or 3.6b+. Hmm, seems I would be a little short on isk, but hey, that's what a main is for,correct? Another 1.3b later and I'm back in the game. 3.6b out, holy ****: 18 BILLION in! Remember, this is all in my head. Do I have the cajones to go through with this? Quadruple checking my work, I am sure I am playing by the rules. Here goes nothing...
100m out 200m in! so far so good
jump it up to 600m 1.8b in!
now for the money maker 3.6 (gulp) billion out ... ... ... 18 billion in. Suddenly I was space rich.
As Walter Sobchak might say, "This is not Nam. There are rules." Good Luck. |

Phoenix Bibbs
Red Galaxy SpaceMonkey's Alliance
31
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Posted - 2013.03.28 15:00:00 -
[30] - Quote
Aldrex wrote:Erotica 1 wrote: Rubbish. I stayed up for hours with this client to try and resolve matters. How many "legit" doublers offer such service? Most block you and keep everything. I spent HOURS trying to negotiate through our hiccup and he kept demanding I give him the world or he would "expose" me.
Notice there are no pics. Shameful!
I can provide chat logs, api, and pics of my wallet should anyone request. I love how much stock you claim to put into photos and then claim they're all shopped when photos are provided. Quite amusing really.
Even more amusing Erotica 1/beancounter Jaynara used to brag when we were in the same PVP corp about these scams and how he'd edit logs and photoshop things.
What's even more unbelievable is the sheer number of people who fall for his scheme.
Can also confirm the obvious that the people confirming this as not a scam are his alts or friends of his. |

Monnty
MIN0R THREAT
55
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Posted - 2013.03.28 15:53:00 -
[31] - Quote
Because this sort of thing fascinates me and i am a top internet lawyer i decided to give this a go in the hope that i could unravel the mystery.
here goes...
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Monnty
MIN0R THREAT
55
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Posted - 2013.03.28 15:53:00 -
[32] - Quote
Nope got scammed |

Erotica 1
Krypteia Operations
27
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Posted - 2013.03.28 18:28:00 -
[33] - Quote
Phoenix Bibbs wrote:Aldrex wrote:Erotica 1 wrote: Rubbish. I stayed up for hours with this client to try and resolve matters. How many "legit" doublers offer such service? Most block you and keep everything. I spent HOURS trying to negotiate through our hiccup and he kept demanding I give him the world or he would "expose" me.
Notice there are no pics. Shameful!
I can provide chat logs, api, and pics of my wallet should anyone request. I love how much stock you claim to put into photos and then claim they're all shopped when photos are provided. Quite amusing really. Even more amusing Erotica 1/beancounter Jaynara used to brag when we were in the same PVP corp about these scams and how he'd edit logs and photoshop things. What's even more unbelievable is the sheer number of people who fall for his scheme. Can also confirm the obvious that the people confirming this as not a scam are his alts or friends of his.
bibbs knows i didnt edit anything. He's pissed because I reported him to Blackfrog for thievery. I lent him 8b to buy a rhea and fund his collaterals. He decided to not pay me back. Oh well, a friendship for only 8 billion? Everyone has their price I guess. See Bio for isk doubling rules. -áIf you didn't read bio, chances are you helped fund those who did. |

Alex Grison
Grison Interstellar
246
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Posted - 2013.03.28 19:02:00 -
[34] - Quote
I enjoy this thread |

Lonely Spirit
R3d Win3
6
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Posted - 2013.03.28 19:30:00 -
[35] - Quote
I was having a bad day so I thought what the heck i'll have a gamble.
Really glad I did, played the game according to the rules and made a few billion.
Wallet is happy, i'm happy, and the rain clouds above the head have dissipated.
Confirming Erotica is legit. |

fredricko smit
State War Academy Caldari State
0
|
Posted - 2013.03.28 20:01:00 -
[36] - Quote
Aldrex wrote:So just had a run in with this "legit" ISK doubler. Figured I'd give it a shot, take a risk, and see how the game is played. Since I've played, I'd like to now share exactly what the scam is to those allured by it:
- First she reels you in with you making a small (50mill to maybe 200 mill) donation she does indeed double, along with the claims by other people who had her truthfully double their small amounts.
- The trick comes directly after this when you start feeling secure and safe in this being an actual "business".
- Maybe not in your second, but at least definitely in your third when you've sent her a good amount of isk, you'll find her not sending you anything back.
- When confronted about this, she states something akin to "Oh, I got spammed and didn't see it. Send me the same amount and a screenshot and I'll triple it".
- This is where her real scam begins. You've already sent a large amount that she fully intends on keeping, and now she has you were you possibly think she's legit given she's already done what she promised.
- So you're considering her proposal, but regardless if you give her more isk, you've already fallen in her trap. You can either cut your losses or dig yourself deeper. Either way she's not paying you anything.
- Furthermore, when confronted, she will continue to insist that you are actually scamming her. That if you weren't, you'd send her the isk she asked for. Nevermind the fact that she would lose more by simply giving you your money back, or even just simply tripling it as she promised.
- Also, she'll claim that she gets photoshoped images all the time and can't tell if it's shopped or not unless she has the duplicate amount to compare against, which sounds like utter BS if ever there was any. If I could shop it once, I could shop it twice.
- When pressed on the logic of all this, and in fact even presented with an API key showing the exact transaction through EVE's own site, she still feigns ignorance, claims you're trying to trick and scam her, and demands you send her even more isk as proof of your sincerity.
TL;DR: Your first low amount of ISK you send might return double (provided you follow her rules). Any ISK sent of sizable amount, however, will be promptly kept, and when questioned she'll actually accuse the accuser of scamming, ignoring all logic and proof, demanding you send her even more isk. Just figure'd I'd enlighten those who were curious as to the true nature and inner workings of her "business". P.S. You might could scam the scammer though by creating alts more than 4 weeks old and sending her the min bid only once following her rules in an attempt to beat her at her own game. Most people can make more money doing other things for 4 weeks, but still, if everyone were to use their alts to beat her at her own game, she'd soon be out of ISK and everyone would be a modest bit richer.
All the qualities of a RL con artist, the first amount is called a convince r to suck you into bigger investments. And like you said the best way to beat them is to take the small convince r and walk away.The idea that ppl x2 your isk for nothing is ridiculous and if you think otherwise then you need help. |

Zancor Mezoran
Perkone Caldari State
2
|
Posted - 2013.03.30 03:01:00 -
[37] - Quote
Hmm...I think this case is not as clear-cut as others have speculated. I found a detail which I think anybody who claims Erotica's supporters are her alts or cronies may have missed: many of the people who posted on this thread and verified that their money was doubled have quite a few likes on the forums. In other words, they have a reputation as a positive influence in the EVE community.
At the same time, the "rules" aren't complicated. I doubt that enough people break them while trying to get their money multiplied to fund the rest of this operation. My speculation is that either Erotica does research on whoever sends her money before deciding what to do, or is not a scammer but a troll and just chooses at random whose money she doubles or walks away with.
I haven't sent anything to her yet, though I plan on sending 200m when I see her in Jita chat next. I'll post what happens.
By the way, I'm not "falling for her scam". It's just that, out of everything in EVE to spend money on, I consider fooling around to be the most worthwhile. I'll be happy whether or not she pays me what she claims she will in her bio.
Also, a personal note to Erotica: Whatever it is you're doing, I applaud you. Keep up the tomfoolery! |

Aldrex
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
5
|
Posted - 2013.03.30 20:24:00 -
[38] - Quote
Zancor Mezoran wrote:Hmm...I think this case is not as clear-cut as others have speculated. I found a detail which I think anybody who claims Erotica's supporters are her alts or cronies may have missed: many of the people who posted on this thread and verified that their money was doubled have quite a few likes on the forums. In other words, they have a reputation as a positive influence in the EVE community.
Alts liking alts. Never heard that before. |

Praetor Meles
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
22
|
Posted - 2013.03.30 22:17:00 -
[39] - Quote
You know...life in Eve can be strange. Really, really strange.
Now, maybe I lucked out. And maybe I did not. But, one evening, sufficiently merry (drunk), an alt of mine took a gamble on this (my disgraceful alt was drunk, I of course was not).
I can wholeheartedly confirm that my isk was doubled. I put in a lot for most people, and I got a lot back. Realising I'd be willing to initially bet no more than I do every time I undock in a pimped out BC in my "total warfare at all times" life, I went for it. But, I can categorically state that I definitely was not scammed. Quite the opposite in fact. You just need to, perhaps controversially, follow the stated rules.
Life is risk. Sometimes...well, you can decide if it's worth it. [insert random rubbish that irritates you personally] is further evidence that Eve is dying/thriving*
* delete as required to make your point |

Corp 5py
Trolol0l
6
|
Posted - 2013.04.01 10:57:00 -
[40] - Quote
Dear sir or madame
I am offering a 3'rd party isk doubling insurance service for the legit isk doubler profession.
Why you may need one ? Simple, if your legit isk doubling service gets too much traffic, you may find yourself in a position of unable to fulfill your doubling. My Patented isk doubling insurance guards against that.
To activate for one month subscription, or for a trial run, simply send a 1 time payment representing the largest isk doubled to date to this char. Sums below 500 mil isk will not be considered valid. The protection will be active starting from the next downtime and will be active for the next 30 days.
Regards, Legit isk doubler insurer. |

Praxis Ginimic
283
|
Posted - 2013.04.01 18:57:00 -
[41] - Quote
Erotica, I am here to announce to you that I am New Eden's first and only legit ISK halver! Pls send me all of your ill gotten gains and I will promptly send back half! Just make sire that you include the tag line "donation" as the reason. You are welcome.  |

Death ANGLE400
Phoenix aureor
0
|
Posted - 2013.04.05 04:08:00 -
[42] - Quote
She is legit~!!! i love her!! everyone needs to know that she is real and not a bot! i will help in all ways to make people know she is real |

Alina Markon
Mercantile Federation
2
|
Posted - 2013.04.05 05:15:00 -
[43] - Quote
Aldrex wrote:So just had a run in with this "legit" ISK doubler. Figured I'd give it a shot, take a risk, and see how the game is played. Since I've played, I'd like to now share exactly what the scam is to those allured by it:
- First she reels you in with you making a small (50mill to maybe 200 mill) donation she does indeed double, along with the claims by other people who had her truthfully double their small amounts.
- The trick comes directly after this when you start feeling secure and safe in this being an actual "business".
- Maybe not in your second, but at least definitely in your third when you've sent her a good amount of isk, you'll find her not sending you anything back.
- When confronted about this, she states something akin to "Oh, I got spammed and didn't see it. Send me the same amount and a screenshot and I'll triple it".
- This is where her real scam begins. You've already sent a large amount that she fully intends on keeping, and now she has you were you possibly think she's legit given she's already done what she promised.
- So you're considering her proposal, but regardless if you give her more isk, you've already fallen in her trap. You can either cut your losses or dig yourself deeper. Either way she's not paying you anything.
- Furthermore, when confronted, she will continue to insist that you are actually scamming her. That if you weren't, you'd send her the isk she asked for. Nevermind the fact that she would lose more by simply giving you your money back, or even just simply tripling it as she promised.
- Also, she'll claim that she gets photoshoped images all the time and can't tell if it's shopped or not unless she has the duplicate amount to compare against, which sounds like utter BS if ever there was any. If I could shop it once, I could shop it twice.
- When pressed on the logic of all this, and in fact even presented with an API key showing the exact transaction through EVE's own site, she still feigns ignorance, claims you're trying to trick and scam her, and demands you send her even more isk as proof of your sincerity.
TL;DR: Your first low amount of ISK you send might return double (provided you follow her rules). Any ISK sent of sizable amount, however, will be promptly kept, and when questioned she'll actually accuse the accuser of scamming, ignoring all logic and proof, demanding you send her even more isk. Just figure'd I'd enlighten those who were curious as to the true nature and inner workings of her "business". P.S. You might could scam the scammer though by creating alts more than 4 weeks old and sending her the min bid only once following her rules in an attempt to beat her at her own game. Most people can make more money doing other things for 4 weeks, but still, if everyone were to use their alts to beat her at her own game, she'd soon be out of ISK and everyone would be a modest bit richer. This post hits the nail on the head of how it works.
I was bored and decided to have a little fun with the "legitimate isk doubler" and see just how legitimate they were. First two went through right on track but when it got to the third one, oh no they "lost it in the logs"! -Gasp- How unforeseeable! And instead of going through and finding it they -le gasp again- wanted another transaction and would triple it to make up for it!
Of course, I'd already known this was coming and was having none of it. So we had a nice conversation in private chat about it, actually a nice person when they're not trying to get more isk. Even complimented them. You have to give them credit, they're very good at what they do and if you're not going at it just for entertainment then yea, you're going to leave disappointed. As I told them in our chat, they're like the Billy Mays of Jita minus the heart attack.
+1
|

Shiho Weitong
Koa Mai Hoku Nulli Legio
3
|
Posted - 2013.04.05 05:47:00 -
[44] - Quote
Meh, I dunno. I kinda like walking into scams to see if they prepared it decently. I was expecting some lame excuses and random slander thrown against me when i ousted the scam.
100m became 200m
1B became 3B
Seemed legit, so I left sorely disappointed. |

Jake Warbird
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
2346
|
Posted - 2013.04.05 06:37:00 -
[45] - Quote
dafaq is this thread?? |

Anya Klibor
Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic
237
|
Posted - 2013.04.05 08:16:00 -
[46] - Quote
I'm a firm believer that if your character looks like a ******* clown chick, daddy loves to frequently in the evening. |

Sabriz Adoudel
Resurgent Threat
187
|
Posted - 2013.04.05 09:16:00 -
[47] - Quote
I was once a legit ISK doubler in Dodixie. Gave away a few hundred million.
I was known to accidentally misclick and put some ISK on bounties instead of wallets, however. Careless, I know. '... you cannot reason with the mining bots, you cannot negotiate with them, you can only bring them judgement in the form of Navy Antimatter, turn their Mackinaws to salvage and dust, smartbomb their pods, and burn their Mining Link implants with sweet incense...'- The Gospel according to St James 315 |

Buhhdust Princess
Mind Games. Suddenly Spaceships.
1907
|
Posted - 2013.04.05 14:19:00 -
[48] - Quote
Rex Aparte wrote:As a result of this thread, I took it upon myself to get to the bottom of it all. As with any good detective work, I decided to begin at the beginning. Since isk doubling is a well known scam, someone making a legit business out of it seemed sketchy at best. How would one even attempt it? Delving into my target's bio, I found my answer: rules. It appeared on the outside that this was more than your average "send me some isk and I'll double it" scheme. I thought to myself, "self, can you follow some simple rules? If not we need to scrap this right now." Self said to me, "Let's do the damn thang." I transferred a cool 1 billion isk in from my main and the fun began. I logged in and began the process of decoding the intricate rules of this Most Dangerous Game. 50-500m isk get 2x back. 600m-1b get 3x back! 3-5b get 5x back! "WOW" I said, my lust for free isk overcoming me. But wait, what's that in the fine print... Each investment must be at least (this is important) 2x what you received just prior, 3 investments per player. Time to dance the dance. I mapped out my conquest, If my first donation is 100m I'd get 200m back. Okay, so 100m out, 200m in. Then I suppose jump to 600m, which is at least 2x 200m, get 1.8b back? So now I need to invest at least 2x 1.8b or 3.6b+. Hmm, seems I would be a little short on isk, but hey, that's what a main is for,correct? Another 1.3b later and I'm back in the game. 3.6b out, holy ****: 18 BILLION in! Remember, this is all in my head. Do I have the cajones to go through with this? Quadruple checking my work, I am sure I am playing by the rules. Here goes nothing...
100m out 200m in! so far so good
jump it up to 600m 1.8b in!
now for the money maker 3.6 (gulp) billion out ... ... ... 18 billion in. Suddenly I was space rich.
As Walter Sobchak might say, "This is not Nam. There are rules." Good Luck.
Your maths, is incredible sir. |

Premier Sovian
New Sun Ventures
3
|
Posted - 2013.04.05 22:00:00 -
[49] - Quote
People actually read Local in Jita?
Learn something new every day. |

Agent Trask
New Order Logistics CODE.
118
|
Posted - 2013.04.06 16:04:00 -
[50] - Quote
Confirming that she doubled all CODE. ISK after we sent her all of our moneys.
We now have twice as many Cats to gank miners with.
Join the New Order, buy your permit today, and follow the code.
www.minerbumping.com |

Sabriz Adoudel
Resurgent Threat
187
|
Posted - 2013.04.08 01:13:00 -
[51] - Quote
Agent Trask wrote:Confirming that she doubled all CODE. ISK after we sent her all of our moneys.
We now have twice as many Cats to gank miners with.
That explains the person that purchased 300 Catalysts from me near Dodixie. I think I need more researched Catalyst BPOs. '... you cannot reason with the mining bots, you cannot negotiate with them, you can only bring them judgement in the form of Navy Antimatter, turn their Mackinaws to salvage and dust, smartbomb their pods, and burn their Mining Link implants with sweet incense...'- The Gospel according to St James 315 |

Kitiara Stormborn
Kheiron Ventures
0
|
Posted - 2013.04.12 23:50:00 -
[52] - Quote
I got 100mil out of him/her. Also she/he randomly gave me an armageddon when i was being goofy in jita local. Can't say anything for other peoples stories but I'm happy. |

Tsukino Stareine
EVE University Ivy League
65
|
Posted - 2013.04.13 00:28:00 -
[53] - Quote
Read the rules, stick to the rules, you will win. |

Felicity Love
STARKRAFT Joint Venture Conglomerate
435
|
Posted - 2013.04.14 11:22:00 -
[54] - Quote
My ISK was doubled, and then doubled again. I thought to myself "Wow... I can finally take the family on that luxury cruise to NULL !! !"
And a legitimate ISK doubler made it happen ! It's so cool !
It's like all those commercials that offer these crazy devices to remove unwanted hair from intimate places and you think "That's too good to be true, I'll never have a bikini line like all the sexy models on TV..." 
But you try it anyway... and it's like a miracle ! 
Thank you, ISK Doubler... Thank you so much. Even my kids say nice things about you now when they see all their friends at school ! ! !

Proud Beta Tester for "Bumping Uglies for Dummies" |

Erisu Fujiora
Magma Forge
0
|
Posted - 2013.04.14 11:36:00 -
[55] - Quote
"If something looks too good to be true, then it is". |

Kenpo
61st Angry Angels
5
|
Posted - 2013.04.14 14:28:00 -
[56] - Quote
This thread and some of its replies are amusing. |

Boom Boom Longtime
EVE Corporation 6908469858
344
|
Posted - 2013.04.14 17:03:00 -
[57] - Quote
Erisu Fujiora wrote:"If something looks too good to be true, then it is". One must only have belief, and faries will be there to be found in the garden.
Fools and their Interstellar Kredits are Soon Parted. |

culo duro
Next Level Alcoholics
71
|
Posted - 2013.04.15 06:22:00 -
[58] - Quote
Erisu Fujiora wrote:"If something looks too good to be true, then it is".
You look like you could use some sun. |

Sabriz Adoudel
Resurgent Threat
204
|
Posted - 2013.04.15 07:28:00 -
[59] - Quote
If I had a kitten for every person that has slandered Erotica 1 in this forum, I could serve a delightful kitten stew to half of EVE's playerbase. '... you cannot reason with the mining bots, you cannot negotiate with them, you can only bring them judgement in the form of Navy Antimatter, turn their Mackinaws to salvage and dust, smartbomb their pods, and burn their Mining Link implants with sweet incense...'- The Gospel according to St James 315 |

culo duro
Next Level Alcoholics
71
|
Posted - 2013.04.15 07:31:00 -
[60] - Quote
Sabriz Adoudel wrote:If I had a kitten for every person that has slandered Erotica 1 in this forum, I could serve a delightful kitten stew to half of EVE's playerbase.
if i had boom booms bounty i'd be even more space rich. |

Pridit
Personal Corporation
0
|
Posted - 2013.04.15 23:24:00 -
[61] - Quote
Thank you
I'm still not sure if it is entirely legitimate, even with people failing to follow the rules correctly it doesn't seem like it would be sustainable. Although I wouldn't really recommend anyone send over 200m because if it is indeed a scam then it would be logical to send low amounts then keep the higher amounts. As I said before I don't know and I'm not going to make any accusations as I have received free ISK.
I haven't seen any transaction over 1b though, if people are really receiving huge amounts is there any possibility I could see a screenshot of any doubling over 1b? If this is indeed legitimate it would probably be a good idea just to keep logs of any people posting ISK received. |

Emile Koraka
Zeta Consulate
0
|
Posted - 2013.04.17 09:12:00 -
[62] - Quote
http://imgur.com/kkUh7rv
Sent 1 bill, got 3 bill back! So awesome.
Thanks! :D |

Authorized Pixel Distributor
Perkone Caldari State
0
|
Posted - 2013.04.17 11:50:00 -
[63] - Quote
I sent a small amount and she doubled without a problem. Then I sent 2b and she kept it. Total scam! |

culo duro
Next Level Alcoholics
72
|
Posted - 2013.04.17 12:54:00 -
[64] - Quote
Emile Koraka wrote:http://imgur.com/kkUh7rv
Sent 1 bill, got 3 bill back! So awesome.
Thanks! :D inb4 people saying FAKE, it's scolled down. |

Quinzel Nikulainen
Kokako Acquisitions
163
|
Posted - 2013.04.17 14:18:00 -
[65] - Quote
Confirming that Erotica doubles my ISK all of the time. Ex-Kaalakiota citizen. Ex-Hyasyoda citizen. CEO of-áK+îKAK. Despite her corporate journey, Quinzel now subscribes to the leanings of the Practical bloc.-á |

Jonasan Mikio
Hateful Munitions Totally Consensual
4
|
Posted - 2013.04.17 21:04:00 -
[66] - Quote
STOP GIVING THESE PEOPLE ISK...
This scam would go away if people would just show some self control... no one is legit... no one will really let you win at the end of it..... STOP being foolish...its not for the good of the community, we already know! |

Singeabooty Raj
Marcabian 5th Invasion Fleet
407
|
Posted - 2013.04.17 23:20:00 -
[67] - Quote
Jonasan Mikio wrote:STOP GIVING THESE PEOPLE ISK...
This scam would go away if people would just show some self control... no one is legit... no one will really let you win at the end of it..... STOP being foolish...its not for the good of the community, we already know! Why pollute these forums with lies and folly because you're mad at your own interstellar kredit peasantry and inability to share the wealth and give back to the community like others do ?
You should hold your head in shame Jonasan Mikio Black Man with Goggles |

Sabriz Adoudel
AWOXalypse
206
|
Posted - 2013.04.18 02:03:00 -
[68] - Quote
Jonasan Mikio wrote:STOP GIVING THESE PEOPLE ISK...
This scam would go away if people would just show some self control... no one is legit... no one will really let you win at the end of it..... STOP being foolish...its not for the good of the community, we already know!
Erotica 1's business model is VERY different to that of the scammers. Keep calm and shoot blues. http://i.imgur.com/4TBw0uq.png |

ZAKURELL0 LINDA
Arkhon Industries Solarmark Coalition
4
|
Posted - 2013.04.18 03:16:00 -
[69] - Quote
"if something seems too good to be true, it probably is."
now go bang ur head against da wall and wake-up  RIP Iron Lady |

culo duro
Next Level Alcoholics
72
|
Posted - 2013.04.18 06:44:00 -
[70] - Quote
ZAKURELL0 LINDA wrote:"if something seems too good to be true, it probably is." now go bang ur head against da wall and wake-up 
erotica actually doubles isk legit you just have to play the game correctly. |

Awlton Stueen
Kenshin. Circle-Of-Two
0
|
Posted - 2013.04.18 08:01:00 -
[71] - Quote
Emile Koraka wrote:http://imgur.com/kkUh7rv
Sent 1 bill, got 3 bill back! So awesome.
Thanks! :D
You forgot to photoshop your current balance.  |

Tora Bushido
EVE Corporation 987654321-POP The Marmite Collective
299
|
Posted - 2013.04.18 08:27:00 -
[72] - Quote
Erotica will double the size of more then just your wallet.....  You either love us or we hate you. |

Erotica 1
Krypteia Operations
34
|
Posted - 2013.04.18 08:51:00 -
[73] - Quote
Tora Bushido wrote:Erotica will double the size of more then just your wallet..... 
Complete satisfaction is my only goal, I aim to please  See Bio for isk doubling rules. -áIf you didn't read bio, chances are you helped fund those who did. |

Grandma Honeycakes
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
0
|
Posted - 2013.04.20 19:05:00 -
[74] - Quote
Authorized Pixel Distributor wrote: I sent a small amount and she doubled without a problem. Then I sent 2b and she kept it. Total scam!
Maybe if you had read the rules you'd be space rich now. |

Trevor2014 Gunson
Intelligence Operation NetCorp
0
|
Posted - 2013.04.20 23:25:00 -
[75] - Quote
Really Doubles your isk if you play game right... i got paid right back within a minute. |

Gregui
Inter-Stellar Luminations LLC UMBRELLA C0RP0RATI0N
0
|
Posted - 2013.04.21 02:01:00 -
[76] - Quote
I just got done doin her game started out with just doing 200 mil then played twice and by the time we were done i had 1.8 bil in my pocket, the key is to play by her rules, and on top of that, her corporation is at war with mine!!!! NOT A SCAM
http://imgur.com/qYwNNGx <---- proof
|

Look AtWhat ICanDo
Fise Corp War and Pestilence
0
|
Posted - 2013.04.21 03:28:00 -
[77] - Quote
I did not think this was legit. I was waiting to be ripped off. But I needed this isks so I gave it a try. Thanks
Allot of people do not belive and they think everyone in eve is going to rip them off. But not always.
I did make a screen shot incase you were wondering. My CEO said I was going to get ripped off. Now he has to try it also.
http://i.imgur.com/GMoCm46.png
|

HellAngel92
Inter-Stellar Luminations LLC UMBRELLA C0RP0RATI0N
0
|
Posted - 2013.04.22 02:17:00 -
[78] - Quote
Just wanted to let everyone know erotica is legit, send 500 mil got a 1 bil back, and yes i know i should have sent 600 mil. lol |

somthing Lionheart
Aliastra Gallente Federation
0
|
Posted - 2013.04.22 09:44:00 -
[79] - Quote
I got more than I thouhg id get bck because I cant count my isk properly, comepletly legit
|

Ra Jackson
CRIMINALS IN ACTION
167
|
Posted - 2013.04.22 10:09:00 -
[80] - Quote
Grandma Honeycakes wrote:Authorized Pixel Distributor wrote: I sent a small amount and she doubled without a problem. Then I sent 2b and she kept it. Total scam!
Maybe if you had read the rules you'd be space rich now.
And what rule would she have broken? |

rswfire
Firesworn Firesworn Nation
47
|
Posted - 2013.04.22 10:38:00 -
[81] - Quote
Awlton Stueen wrote:Emile Koraka wrote:http://imgur.com/kkUh7rv
Sent 1 bill, got 3 bill back! So awesome.
Thanks! :D You forgot to photoshop your current balance. 
http://imgur.com/kkUh7rv
That is priceless. Top right -- current balance does not match balance supposedly in wallet.
I'm sure all the other screenshots are trustworthy though! We are the other side of Eve...the human side. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=182994 http://www.firesworn.com/index.php?/topic/69-about-firesworn-nation/ |

Erotica 1
Krypteia Operations
40
|
Posted - 2013.04.22 11:11:00 -
[82] - Quote
happens to me all the time if I don't hit load or something. Maybe you should try it.
As people have found....
trolls get nothing
people who can't read lose a fortune
people who can read make a fortune
Good luck See Bio for isk doubling rules. -áIf you didn't read bio, chances are you helped fund those who did. |

James 420
New Order of GAY
5
|
Posted - 2013.04.22 11:22:00 -
[83] - Quote
People actually send money to isk doubler, like really?
Scammer McScam wrote:AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHAAHHAAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAAHAH thx 4 the laff |

rswfire
Firesworn Firesworn Nation
47
|
Posted - 2013.04.22 12:42:00 -
[84] - Quote
Erotica 1 wrote: happens to me all the time if I don't hit load or something. Maybe you should try it.
As people have found....
trolls get nothing
people who can't read lose a fortune
people who can read make a fortune
Good luck
I agree. I know exactly what you're talking about. If the window had been left open and you clicked load, there's a bug that sometimes will not update your balance. I considered this. The problem is, even if that were the case, the balance is still wrong. The "payment sent" would have been more than what the person had in their wallet. The math does not add up. Also, the time between transfers is relevant. There's a good long wait between the two; who leaves their wallet open that long? We are the other side of Eve...the human side. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=182994 http://www.firesworn.com/index.php?/topic/69-about-firesworn-nation/ |

rswfire
Firesworn Firesworn Nation
47
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Posted - 2013.04.22 12:48:00 -
[85] - Quote
I will explain this so it is painfully clear to everyone.
The top-right says 572,632,566.07. We are to assume this is what the person had in their wallet before they made their transaction to Erotica. They then allegedly sent her 1,000,000,000.00 which put their balance at 72,632,566.07. Where did the other 500,000,000.00 come from? Thin air? We are the other side of Eve...the human side. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=182994 http://www.firesworn.com/index.php?/topic/69-about-firesworn-nation/ |

Anton Awesome
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
0
|
Posted - 2013.04.22 13:36:00 -
[86] - Quote
dblpost |

Anton Awesome
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2013.04.22 13:39:00 -
[87] - Quote
have to try her |

Bugsy VanHalen
Society of lost Souls
564
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Posted - 2013.04.22 20:02:00 -
[88] - Quote
Kimo Khan wrote:What I see is you gave 50mil, got back 100mil (+ 50 mil) you gave 100 mil got back 200 mil (+150mil) You gave 300 mil got back nothing. Net loss 150mil not 300mil. Well what I see is you broke the rules.
Erotica's rules are very clear.
If you break the rules, you get nothing, you broke the rules.
You even broke the rules on round 2, not sure why you even got the second round doubled.
She says repeatedly, read the rules in her bio.
You gave 50 mil got back 100 mil. good for you.
You gave 100M, you broke the rules, She still gave you back 200M.
You gave 300 mil and broke the rules again. You got nothing.
I guess she did kinda scam you by continuing through round 2 and waiting until round 3 to not send you back your isk. But you did break the rules. This is how she makes her isk. If you break the rules she rips you off. more players break the rules than follow them. She is also pretty good at detecting alts. If she believes you have played before and are trying to play again with an alt, that is also breaking the rules.
I have played erotica's game and never gotten scammed. I wish I could play again, but I would simply be donating to her wallet as the rules say only three trades per player.
I do not know if she posts the rules in the forums, or only in her bio. But as I have already played her game, and can not play again, I do not mind telling you.
The way the rule you broke. When you send her isk, you must send at least double what you won in the previous round. This rule is very clear. But also very commonly where players make the mistake. Double what you won, not what you sent.
round 1 you sent 50 mil you got back 100 mil. round 2 you sent 100 mil when anything less than 200 mil was breaking the rules. round 3 you sent 300 mil when you should have sent at least 400 mil.
You broke the rules, she did not scam you. |

Bugsy VanHalen
Society of lost Souls
564
|
Posted - 2013.04.22 20:12:00 -
[89] - Quote
Authorized Pixel Distributor wrote: I sent a small amount and she doubled without a problem. Then I sent 2b and she kept it. Total scam!
lol, THIS IS REALLY FUNNY, AS YOU DO NOT EVEN REALIZE YOU BROKE THE RULES.
Read her bio carefully. You played the game and lost. She did not scam you, you did not send an amount that was eligible for doubling.
I quote from her Bio.(sorry Erotica1 if this hurts your buisness)
Rules:
Send me 50M-500M, get 2x back.
Send 600M to 1 Billion get 3x back. Invest 3-5 Billion and get 5x back!
over 50 BILLION liquid isk, over 250 billion in assets, so your amounts can be easily covered. However, I do limit 3 investments per player. This is necessary to keep business afloat. Each investment must be at least 2x what you received just prior. Toons must be >4 weeks old.
Rules are straight-forward. Amounts not listed are donations.
Do you see where you broke the rules?? |

Bugsy VanHalen
Society of lost Souls
564
|
Posted - 2013.04.22 20:20:00 -
[90] - Quote
Ra Jackson wrote:Grandma Honeycakes wrote:Authorized Pixel Distributor wrote: I sent a small amount and she doubled without a problem. Then I sent 2b and she kept it. Total scam!
Maybe if you had read the rules you'd be space rich now. And what rule would she have broken? I thought it was quite obvious, players like you that do not read carefully are why she makes profit off this isk doubling game. |

Sabre Rolf
Republic University Minmatar Republic
1
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Posted - 2013.04.22 20:42:00 -
[91] - Quote
I know you dont get that nobody reads your simpleminded scam attempts, but please try to find out how the edit button works.
Thank You! |

Bugsy VanHalen
Society of lost Souls
564
|
Posted - 2013.04.22 21:06:00 -
[92] - Quote
I apologize to Erotica1 if my posts have exposed your genius game. I try only to point out that those who claim to have been scammed, only failed to follow the rules. that is hard to do without quoting the rules. Hopefully this will lead to more new players of your game, without reducing their chances of breaking the rules. I understand that the game does not work, if everybody knows how to play.
It reminds me of a game we used to play when I was younger. It was called the blanket game. It was a game you could only play once. But very fun for those watching, and very fun to play with new people once you learned how to play it.
For those who have never played the blanket game, this is how it goes.
Basically you would get a person to sit in the middle of the floor and place a large blanket over them.
Then you tell them, "You have something on you, you do not need. You must give us this thing before you can come out."
Some people who play the game would start stripping, others would give a few items and get very nervous. When I played my first time I was drunk, I got completely naked giving them everything I had on me, and just did not get it until I was naked. It was very funny. I am not shy and often ended up naked when drunk, so not a big deal for me. Some would even break down and cry, running from the room and quitting the game.
The thing is if you are smart and understand the rules you have nothing to fear. But for some reason nobody gets it with out help. The punch line is, the thing you have on you you do not need is the blanket. my friends and I used to go away skiing or camping 2-3 times per year in a group of 8-16 people depending on who wanted to come. There was almost always someone new with us so always someone to play the blanket game. In all the trips over 4-5 years nobody ever figured it out before taking at least half there cloths off.
Much like Erotica1's game, when you are expecting a completely different outcome it is easy to not grasp the simple rules. Most people when playing the blanket game just assume it is a joke to get them to strip. They do not even think about how simple the rules are. Most people would say they need their cloths, but the item is something they do not need. If they stop and think it is very logical.
I Erotica1's game the rules seem very simple, but there are lots of holes, and opportunities to lose the game if you are not sharp. You go in expecting to get scammed, when you get double your isk back you are shocked, you get excited and send more without really paying attention to the rules. You get maximum three rounds, almost every one catches that part. but if you do not really understand the rest of the rules, it is easy to break them by the third round. read them carefully. If you do not get your isk back doubled or tripled or even 5 times if you played 3 to 5 billion, then you broke at least one rule.
Every post I have read about players thinking they got scammed by Erotica1, if they included the details I can see exactly what rule they broke. I will not point out the exact mistakes, as that will help future players to basically cheat at her game. I may have said to much already. But I assure you her game is legit, and you will win if you follow the rules. All the rules, break one and you will be helping to supply the funds to double the isk of the next person that does follow the rules. |

Bugsy VanHalen
Society of lost Souls
564
|
Posted - 2013.04.22 21:10:00 -
[93] - Quote
Sabre Rolf wrote:I know you dont get that nobody reads your simpleminded scam attempts, but please try to find out how the edit button works.
Thank You! WOW,
a simpleton calling others simple minded.
there's a contribution to the thread. |

Maleph Ultra
Void.Tech FreiTek Heavy Industries
0
|
Posted - 2013.04.23 00:17:00 -
[94] - Quote
Erotica 1 made me space rich and I really don't care if other people believe it.
I know you have a no alt rule but can I use your services again on my main after a certain amount of time?
Thanks again! |

Authorized Pixel Distributor
Perkone Caldari State
0
|
Posted - 2013.04.23 00:33:00 -
[95] - Quote
Bugsy VanHalen wrote:Authorized Pixel Distributor wrote: I sent a small amount and she doubled without a problem. Then I sent 2b and she kept it. Total scam!
lol, THIS IS REALLY FUNNY, AS YOU DO NOT EVEN REALIZE YOU BROKE THE RULES. Read her bio carefully. You played the game and lost. She did not scam you, you did not send an amount that was eligible for doubling. I quote from her Bio.(sorry Erotica1 if this hurts your buisness) Rules: Send me 50M-500M, get 2x back. Send 600M to 1 Billion get 3x back.Invest 3-5 Billion and get 5x back!
over 50 BILLION liquid isk, over 250 billion in assets, so your amounts can be easily covered. However, I do limit 3 investments per player. This is necessary to keep business afloat. Each investment must be at least 2x what you received just prior. Toons must be >4 weeks old. Rules are straight-forward. Amounts not listed are donations.Do you see where you broke the rules?? the parts you should read again are bolded.
Fine whatever, just give me a refund, I don't even want the triple. Just give me my money back you scammer! You designed these rules to trick me and it's not fair! I don't have anything left and might as well quit now...
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CCP Eterne
C C P C C P Alliance
2307

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Posted - 2013.04.23 13:20:00 -
[96] - Quote
I have deleted a personal attack from this thread. New Eden Community Representative GÇ+ New Eden Illuminati GÇ+ Fiction Adept
@CCP_Eterne GÇ+ @EVE_LiveEvents |
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Bugsy VanHalen
Society of lost Souls
565
|
Posted - 2013.04.23 16:47:00 -
[97] - Quote
Authorized Pixel Distributor wrote:Bugsy VanHalen wrote:Authorized Pixel Distributor wrote: I sent a small amount and she doubled without a problem. Then I sent 2b and she kept it. Total scam!
lol, THIS IS REALLY FUNNY, AS YOU DO NOT EVEN REALIZE YOU BROKE THE RULES. Read her bio carefully. You played the game and lost. She did not scam you, you did not send an amount that was eligible for doubling. I quote from her Bio.(sorry Erotica1 if this hurts your buisness) Rules: Send me 50M-500M, get 2x back. Send 600M to 1 Billion get 3x back.Invest 3-5 Billion and get 5x back!
over 50 BILLION liquid isk, over 250 billion in assets, so your amounts can be easily covered. However, I do limit 3 investments per player. This is necessary to keep business afloat. Each investment must be at least 2x what you received just prior. Toons must be >4 weeks old. Rules are straight-forward. Amounts not listed are donations.Do you see where you broke the rules?? the parts you should read again are bolded. Fine whatever, just give me a refund, I don't even want the triple. Just give me my money back you scammer! You designed these rules to trick me and it's not fair! I don't have anything left and might as well quit now... LOL, I am not erotica1, I am just one of many that won her game by following the rules.
You want a refund for losing the game? What are you 2 years old? You played, you lost, deal with it. It is a gambling game with very clear rules. If you gamble in Las Vegas do you get the money you lost back when you leave?
You are evidently to stupid to figure it out on your own, but your failure is so obvious to everyone else you are just embarrassing yourself.
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Andrea Griffin
336
|
Posted - 2013.04.23 20:02:00 -
[98] - Quote
I have watched Erotica talk through the issues that a few people have had. As an observer, I found that Erotica was forthcoming and honest about mistakes that people have made. In each case the petitioner did not follow the instructions of her game and, instead of making an isk doubling request, made a donation.
So yes, this isk doubler / tripler is indeed legit. You just have to pay attention and follow the rules. CCP Sreegs is my favorite developer. |

Raz ZY13
State War Academy Caldari State
0
|
Posted - 2013.04.24 04:42:00 -
[99] - Quote
So everything, everyone said here so far is pretty much a lie and they are all part (one way or another) of one of the biggest ongoing scams in EVE. Bare with me for a bit, I will explain.
Couple of people, some even from this topic assured me that Erotica 1 is legit isk doubler, with a clever word game. You make sure you read rules and understand them, and you will get some money out of it, even 3 times. I did that, and on 1st try it worked, but 2nd and 3rd did not. I was scammed, by a no doubts really good scammer, hats off for that. Amount wasn't that great, ~ 1.6 bil but it's not about the money it's about sending the message.
To make sure this are not just empty words, enjoy this little album of mine, and see what happened.
As long as every 5th or even 10th player see this post, Erotica 1 will have less people to scam, and that's all I hoped to accomplish with this reply.
Thank you for reading. 
Raz |

Erotica 1
Krypteia Operations
46
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Posted - 2013.04.24 06:46:00 -
[100] - Quote
Interesting... not how I remember events at all.
This guy claims to have sent 800m. Well of course the trolls were busy spamming my wallet, so I must have proof. He comes up with another 800m (which he has to borrow from one of his directors- he's ceo, very sad).
I find out it is but a clever ploy to get 6 times 800m without ever sending the 1st 800m. The pictures are clearly fake, as validated by many people. I am also quite shocked that he posts pics of our chat logs within Crime and Punishment, which is against the rules. It's funny how long it took him to post this too, likely time for photoshop to boot up. I wish those chats were real, as they look hilarious.
People, let this be a lesson that you cannot fool Erotica 1 with smoke and mirrors. If you simply play by the rules you will win. If you fail the rules you will lose. If you try to scam me, I must accept the investment as a donation, but we can still remain friends.
Maybe if this guy was legit he would be happy with his triple. So sad.... he just had to be greedy and try to scam me.
By the way, he passes the isk off as no big deal (we know it's really just 800m) yet the FULL unedited chat logs showed him begging for a very long time for a refund of the 800m.
He promises to ruin me, which means instant war dec on his corp, as i do not appreciate vicious threats of in-game misery.
I appeal to all of my supporters: if you see this corp in space, please relieve them of the heavy burden of maintaining their ships. I'm sure his corp would make a fun target for a few decs. See Bio for isk doubling rules. -áIf you didn't read bio, chances are you helped fund those who did. |

Razielkh
Intelligence Operation NetCorp
0
|
Posted - 2013.04.24 07:31:00 -
[101] - Quote
First of all, want to apologize for breaking any forum rules, still new at this, didn't even know I can swap characters on the forum, so this is my main one, I am sure moderators will edit my post if I did anything wrong.
Second, you had a proof, I've sent you screenshot, those chat screenshots are not edited by any way, not that it matters, you would lie anyways, and there was no "ploy", I was told you are legit, clearly you are not. Pictures are fake as validated by many people? Which people? There were 3, later 4 people in the chat and one them can show you same screenshots.
Please show the part when I beg? Please show your screenshots, oh wait you have none, right... Reason I don't care about it that much, is cause it is easy to gain money by doing honest work. No need for me to hide the fact I borrowed some isk for second payment to you, but it is just a corp member.
Also I promised to ruin you? I've started this game 3 months ago man, all I said I was gonna post this on the forums, and you blackmailed me not to do it with wardec, and since you wardec us anyways, I posted it so everyone can see who you trully are, and reason why I didn't post right away, was that I was thinking if I should antagonize you even further by doing so or just let it be so you might leave my corp alone.
With this said, I don't plan to lead a crusade against you on the forums, nor do I care about your lies, those that you scammed can confirm this, and those that say you are legit, are probably paid to do so, or alts, either way I am done with you.
Fly safe and good luck.
Raz
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Ra Jackson
CRIMINALS IN ACTION
170
|
Posted - 2013.04.24 09:21:00 -
[102] - Quote
Bugsy VanHalen wrote:Ra Jackson wrote:Grandma Honeycakes wrote:Authorized Pixel Distributor wrote: I sent a small amount and she doubled without a problem. Then I sent 2b and she kept it. Total scam!
Maybe if you had read the rules you'd be space rich now. And what rule would she have broken? I thought it was quite obvious, players like you that do not read carefully are why she makes profit off this isk doubling game. She does not scam. But you only win if you follow the rules. If you break the rules you lose. a few examples; If you send her 550 mil, you broke the rules you will get nothing If you won 300M in round 1 and send 500M in round 2 you broke the rules. If you send 2.5B you broke the rules and get nothing If you do not see why these examples broke her rules then you are the type of player that allows her to run this legit isk doubling game and walk away with a profit. Those who have played her game and won multiple rounds understood and followed the rules.
Thanks for the clarification. I feel dumb now :) Will try her soon. |

Ra Jackson
CRIMINALS IN ACTION
170
|
Posted - 2013.04.24 09:30:00 -
[103] - Quote
Erotica 1 wrote: He promises to ruin me, which means instant war dec on his corp, as i do not appreciate vicious threats of in-game misery.
I appeal to all of my supporters: if you see this corp in space, please relieve them of the heavy burden of maintaining their ships.
***BONUS*** confirmed killmails of his corp's ships are currently paying 50m isk per ship they lose. This is subject to change as I have no doubt he will try to kill his own corpmates for the reward. Please do not post kills in forum, but send them to me for review and payment.
Thank you very much!
I love you guys!
He is in a noob corp. Do you know his main by any chance? |

Deladian
Terrorist On Top No.1
1
|
Posted - 2013.04.25 14:44:00 -
[104] - Quote
Great service I fond myself short on isk but was in need of a cash bump to keep me pvping.
Erotica understood I was short. On liquid isk, instead let me use assets. Unsure at first due to alot of slander I tried small and she ddoubled my rupture. Amazed by my new opportunity to PvP more I put up both my navy mega and Baal. Both got doubled for me now I can PvP in style more often.
Ithe willingness to sit and work out issues his what makes erotica one of the good Samaritans of eve. |

Wayer Mayer
Viziam Amarr Empire
0
|
Posted - 2013.04.25 17:37:00 -
[105] - Quote
Scam sent 800 mil and got nothing back
Erotica said she would look at it but then went afk
DONT DO IT ITS A SCAM, sure some people will get money back but most wont.
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Grandma Honeycakes
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
0
|
Posted - 2013.04.25 17:51:00 -
[106] - Quote
Wayer Mayer wrote:Scam sent 800 mil and got nothing back
Erotica said she would look at it but then went afk
DONT DO IT ITS A SCAM, sure some people will get money back but most wont.
That happened to me the other day... I thought I lost everything, something about getting wallet full. I had to borrow a ton of isk from a rl friend to send to her again and I was shocked! She actually sent me what I was owed on both.
Erotica 1 is legit just sometimes slow |

Wayer Mayer
Viziam Amarr Empire
0
|
Posted - 2013.04.25 18:37:00 -
[107] - Quote
I hope it will be sorted out but till then i advise people to stay away |

Andrea Griffin
338
|
Posted - 2013.04.26 21:20:00 -
[108] - Quote
Grandma Honeycakes wrote:Wayer Mayer wrote:Scam sent 800 mil and got nothing back
Erotica said she would look at it but then went afk
DONT DO IT ITS A SCAM, sure some people will get money back but most wont.
That happened to me the other day... I thought I lost everything, something about getting wallet full. I had to borrow a ton of isk from a rl friend to send to her again and I was shocked! She actually sent me what I was owed on both. Erotica 1 is legit just sometimes slow Instant gratification can be difficult. There's a LOT of people using (and abusing) her services. Sometimes she gets spammed by people sending .10 isk which makes it a real PITA to go through wallet transactions in game. CCP Sreegs is my favorite developer. |

Kiraeyal Thalassa
Anadan 7887 Rabbit Industry
0
|
Posted - 2013.04.27 13:04:00 -
[109] - Quote
TLDR It worked for me, after all is said and done I came it with a nice amount of money, and I would say if you're going to play, make sure she is actually there and ready, and be patient - if something does go wrong, just be patient, don't be a **** and you'll very possibly get everything sorted out.
Here you can see the donations, as the picture shows, it's only player donations, and I was in Dodixie selling stuff, so the numbers of my own balance are changing due to that. http://i.imgur.com/qrlNXQd.jpg?1?9457
So, I played once this morning, sent 100m, got 200m back pretty fast - she was posting in local about others that had sent her something, and then she sent back the appropriate amounts. I am pretty spacepoor at the moment after some recent purchases, so after selling a few items I had with me (the reason I went to Dodixie), I sent back 400m. As I did, someone was saying how they hadn't gotten anything back, to which she replied and said she was going to look into it.
I waited patiently. The server downtime was approaching, and I was beginning to think - well, I guess this is how she operates, lures you in once, and then disappears. I messaged her, she didn't answer. I was still not entirely sure, obviously with these things, they are often scams, I was well prepared for the fact that I may not get anything. After the servers came back up, I initiated a discussion with her - she said she hadn't received my messages prior to down time (it was only a couple of minutes before, she could easily have gone afk), I told her what had happened and then she said she'd look into it.
Then she came back saying there was a problem, and I was like.. yeah here it comes. She couldn't seem to find it - we discussed it a little while, and she wanted me to send her another 400m, to which she would then return 1.6billion - double the technical 800m I would have sent by this point. At this point I was thinking of an earlier post here and was not willing to throw another 400m away - not that I had 400m to throw away at this point, so I couldn't even had I wanted to. She linked me to the recent post about her on minerbumping which, you know, doesn't mean she's legitimate - she could have done that just to get more people to fall for her scam, but anyway. I explained my situation to her, and she came back with "are you ready?" and I'm thinking ready? I didn't say I was going to send 400m, I don't have it, but I just responded "ready?" - she sent me 1.6bil straight up, without me sending any additional funds, apparently a missclick. At this point I could obviously just walk away, but she asked me to return 400m, which basically brings it to what she had originally said, send me another 400m, and she would double the initial 400+the 400 I just sent. So I did - I could have kept it all, but I decided not to, never know how bad karma will hit :P
So to end, after being pretty sure I had fallen for a scam, I've come out of it with 1.2b ISK when I had a fraction of that this morning. It's easy to get caught out of her rules, which might lend to this seeming less trustworthy than it is, as people don't send back the right amounts, and it certainly is easy to miss one or two key words that cause you to **** up and send the wrong amount. The whole deal with not being able to see my transaction? I'm not sure what went on there - if that is part of a scam, or if she just gets inundated with wallet transactions that she looses some transactions in the mix. But in the end, I came out of this with far more than I went in with, so if she is entirely legitimate, it could perhaps be run a little smoother to at least get a few less false claims of her scamming (There's always going to be some, due to people not reading the rules and then calling her a scammer).
Is it a scam? I don't know, it worked for me in the end, so on that basis, I would have to say no. I do believe that she probably doesn't need to scam, as there certainly seems to be enough people that **** up on the second time they send back ISK, due to not properly reading. |

Erotica 1
Krypteia Operations
50
|
Posted - 2013.04.27 14:13:00 -
[110] - Quote
Kiraeyal Thalassa wrote:TLDRIt worked for me, after all is said and done I came it with a nice amount of money, and I would say if you're going to play, make sure she is actually there and ready, and be patient - if something does go wrong, just be patient, don't be a **** and you'll very possibly get everything sorted out. Here you can see the donations, as the picture shows, it's only player donations, and I was in Dodixie selling stuff, so the numbers of my own balance are changing due to that. http://i.imgur.com/qrlNXQd.jpg?1?9457
So, I played once this morning, sent 100m, got 200m back pretty fast - she was posting in local about others that had sent her something, and then she sent back the appropriate amounts. I am pretty spacepoor at the moment after some recent purchases, so after selling a few items I had with me (the reason I went to Dodixie), I sent back 400m. As I did, someone was saying how they hadn't gotten anything back, to which she replied and said she was going to look into it. I waited patiently. The server downtime was approaching, and I was beginning to think - well, I guess this is how she operates, lures you in once, and then disappears. I messaged her, she didn't answer. I was still not entirely sure, obviously with these things, they are often scams, I was well prepared for the fact that I may not get anything. After the servers came back up, I initiated a discussion with her - she said she hadn't received my messages prior to down time (it was only a couple of minutes before, she could easily have gone afk), I told her what had happened and then she said she'd look into it. Then she came back saying there was a problem, and I was like.. yeah here it comes. She couldn't seem to find it - we discussed it a little while, and she wanted me to send her another 400m, to which she would then return 1.6billion - double the technical 800m I would have sent by this point. At this point I was thinking of an earlier post here and was not willing to throw another 400m away - not that I had 400m to throw away at this point, so I couldn't even had I wanted to. She linked me to the recent post about her on minerbumping which, you know, doesn't mean she's legitimate - she could have done that just to get more people to fall for her scam, but anyway. I explained my situation to her, and she came back with "are you ready?" and I'm thinking ready? I didn't say I was going to send 400m, I don't have it, but I just responded "ready?" - she sent me 1.6bil straight up, without me sending any additional funds, apparently a missclick. At this point I could obviously just walk away, but she asked me to return 400m, which basically brings it to what she had originally said, send me another 400m, and she would double the initial 400+the 400 I just sent. So I did - I could have kept it all, but I decided not to, never know how bad karma will hit :P So to end, after being pretty sure I had fallen for a scam, I've come out of it with 1.2b ISK when I had a fraction of that this morning. It's easy to get caught out of her rules, which might lend to this seeming less trustworthy than it is, as people don't send back the right amounts, and it certainly is easy to miss one or two key words that cause you to **** up and send the wrong amount. The whole deal with not being able to see my transaction? I'm not sure what went on there - if that is part of a scam, or if she just gets inundated with wallet transactions that she looses some transactions in the mix. But in the end, I came out of this with far more than I went in with, so if she is entirely legitimate, it could perhaps be run a little smoother to at least get a few less false claims of her scamming (There's always going to be some, due to people not reading the rules and then calling her a scammer). Is it a scam? I don't know, it worked for me in the end, so on that basis, I would have to say no. I do believe that she probably doesn't need to scam, as there certainly seems to be enough people that **** up on the second time they send back ISK, due to not properly reading.
Another satisfied client! Perhaps those with less patience would do better to heed this wise pilot's advice! See Bio for isk doubling rules. -áIf you didn't read bio, chances are you helped fund those who did. |

Boom Boom Longtime
EVE Corporation 6908469858
362
|
Posted - 2013.04.27 16:08:00 -
[111] - Quote
Erotica invited me and a few others to participate in a modified "live event" version of her game model yesterday.
Having played before and prospered I was never going to say no.
Had fun and left with a faction fitted Hulk obtained at a very reasonable price which made me a nice profit when I stripped fit and re-sold.
Sadly, I do not possess mining skills otherwise I would have put the fine exhumer class space vessel to good use.
I left a wee surprise for the capsuleer who purchased it should they ever venture their hand down the back of the cockpit chair  Fools and their Interstellar Kredits are Soon Parted. |

Mrs Isk Giveaway
University of Caille Gallente Federation
0
|
Posted - 2013.04.27 22:14:00 -
[112] - Quote
Oh is this the forum post about Erotica and his awesome scams! 
Must admit when i got scammed 1bil+ from him i was pretty mad lol , But after some friendly conversation he told me how to create this alt and scam just like himself :)
Your a legend Erotica 1 and i have earnt quite a bit of isk so far doing exactly what you do!
Although i don't agree with the way he brought me into this fine art i am very grateful for the chance to earn massive amounts of isk from stupid trusting players within EvE!
Regards
Your Partner (Mrs Isk Giveaway)
xoxoxo |

Erotica 1
Krypteia Operations
50
|
Posted - 2013.04.27 23:29:00 -
[113] - Quote
Mrs Isk Giveaway wrote:Oh is this the forum post about Erotica and his awesome scams!  Must admit when i got scammed 1bil+ from him i was pretty mad lol  , But after some friendly conversation he told me how to create this alt and scam just like himself :) Your a legend Erotica 1 and i have earnt quite a bit of isk so far doing exactly what you do! Although i don't agree with the way he brought me into this fine art i am very grateful for the chance to earn massive amounts of isk from stupid trusting players within EvE! Regards Your Partner (Mrs Isk Giveaway) xoxoxo
I will admit, that for the very first time redshaw aka Mrs Isk Giveaway aka self-exclaimed brother of an esteemed Make a Wish capsuleer has actually made me a "madbro." I seriously doubt his claims of a connection to such a wonderful group of guys, but I have not been able to receive a confirmation or denial from my dear friends at BAW, which is concerning.
Allow me to explain....
After an exhausting session of free isk giveaways and games, as I commonly like to do, I bid my fair neighbors in my vacation town good day and redshaw aka Mrs Isk Giveaway burst on the scene.
I had informed local that I was leaving to play with my 7 year old son and would see them after awhile. Now normally, people would either say goodbye, ignore you, or make a slight personal attack to get a rise out of someone.
Redshaw made the grave error of making a comment I shall not repeat here regarding my son. Classy, really classy man. It is not my style to go running to a petition for such behavior. Nor will I start throwing insults and threats back.
Regardless of whether you are a fan or not of my isk doubling business, we all need to remember that this is an (awesome) internet spaceship game. If it goes further than that, there is a serious underlying issue that needs to be addressed one way or another.
However, my initial plan of deccing him and his friends for a few weeks due to terrible trolling, has now been extended to a likely permanent war. Make your own conclusion regarding me, but leave people's kids out of your space rage.
As I have told Redshaw many times in chats and emails (I don't block anyone), I have no problem with however he wants to play his game. People mostly ignore him. I do ask that he, and others, seriously take a deep breath and think for a moment if something that is a game become more than that.
My only 2 requests have been to be respectful and make his own game instead of copying someone else's to troll them (and scamming instead of being legit.) Be creative. Be original. Add your own twist. Actually take the time to write your own sentences instead of doing a copy and paste job of someone's bio.
I found it it that when he told me he made billions a day now, and that when i responded great, best of luck, that he would somehow think he was hurting my business. I think all of my friends know that I am doing quite fine lol There is always room for more than one honest business person if you are legit like me.
I call upon redshaw's friends to ask themselves why they hang out with such a character. No one needs to spew hate just because they dislike someone.
I also call upon my friends in space to either block this troll (to avoid verbal altercations) or to take matters into your own hands in the game. There is always a reason for all of my wardecs. (except for blue sec which was my misclick of a button). Please feel free to join my wars, or ask for clarification. See Bio for isk doubling rules. -áIf you didn't read bio, chances are you helped fund those who did. |

Mrs Isk Giveaway
University of Caille Gallente Federation
0
|
Posted - 2013.04.28 06:43:00 -
[114] - Quote
That was a lovely post Erotica 
I agree i did take it a tad over the top. I once heard you say "You aren't easily insulted" But i guess the comment i said was a tad over the top. For that i do apologise and it won't happen again.
"Sorry"
Anywho back to the guy named redshaw and myself. I assure you i am not that player my friend.....although you do know me...... that is the only clue i will give lol. He isn't a part of my master plan, it doesn't bother me whether you dec this guy permanently .
Now back to our *legit* isk doubling business, when are you on next? i would love to tell you about the marks you gave me and how good the scams went!
See you ingame o/
Regards
Mrs Isk Giveaway
|

Leviathan9
Aliastra Gallente Federation
2
|
Posted - 2013.04.28 13:05:00 -
[115] - Quote
People still do this, and people still fall for this? |

Mike Adoulin
Trans-Aerospace Industries
212
|
Posted - 2013.04.28 13:19:00 -
[116] - Quote
There is no limit to the gullibility of greedy idiots.
Only problem is once you become successful, like Erotica1 and BoomBoom, it becomes a damn job.
Yeah, you have mad isk, but you spend all your time just scamming and it leaves not a lot of time to actually play the game...... |

Erotica 1
Krypteia Operations
51
|
Posted - 2013.04.28 20:04:00 -
[117] - Quote
Mrs Isk Giveaway wrote:That was a lovely post Erotica  I agree i did take it a tad over the top. I once heard you say "You aren't easily insulted" But i guess the comment i said was a tad over the top. For that i do apologise and it won't happen again. "Sorry" Anywho back to the guy named redshaw and myself. I assure you i am not that player my friend.....although you do know me...... that is the only clue i will give lol. He isn't a part of my master plan, it doesn't bother me whether you dec this guy permanently  . Now back to our *legit* isk doubling business, when are you on next? i would love to tell you about the marks you gave me and how good the scams went! See you ingame o/ Regards Mrs Isk Giveaway
Well Thank you for the apology!
I can only think of one or two other players you might be, others that have sadly sent donations that did not count and graced my forum threads with their presence. I guess I will have to keep guessing!
As you know however, I am an honest doubler. If you wish to start a doubling business that is certainly up to you. Perhaps after some of my players have been payed out well and run out of their 3 investments, they will pay you a visit....
Just today, I had around 25 of my closest friends in a group chat and teamspeak for a special bonus event for a 20b payout. The client really invested quite a bit. I'm sorry you were not in attendance.
My only suggestion to you is to rethink scamming. I surely hope instead that you decide to offer an honest service, as respected as mine perhaps!
:o)
See Bio for isk doubling rules. -áIf you didn't read bio, chances are you helped fund those who did. |

Dub Step
Death To Everyone But Us
32
|
Posted - 2013.04.28 22:25:00 -
[118] - Quote
I'm just surprised this old scam is still worthy of a thread 10 years on.
Good luck scammers, there certainly are plenty of idiots out there but this really isn't threadworthy. |

Lady Quickdraw
The Retribution Squad I Know Right
0
|
Posted - 2013.04.29 10:36:00 -
[119] - Quote
I would like to confirm Erotica 1 as EvE's ONLY TRUE ISK DOUBLER!
http://i.imgur.com/Ueh4BR3.jpg
Lady Quickdraw > 0/ heya Erotica 1 > hi what can I do for you? Lady Quickdraw > i have read and re-read your rules over and over and over lol to make sure i dont **** up. Lady Quickdraw > i can only afford to play once, so im not going to claim to have 3-5b to play lol because i dont. Erotica 1 > ok great Lady Quickdraw > so im just going to go all in with 500m, and pray i get 1b back Lady Quickdraw > hahaha Erotica 1 > sure Lady Quickdraw > and if so aweosme, i will be telling people about you all over town lol Erotica 1 > lol ok Lady Quickdraw > so just to confirm, my amount is definitely listed, so it isnt a donation, i am not starting low and caliming to have loads, so thats not a donation as im not an alt, and im only playing once, so i wont be ******* up with not investing 2x my prior Lady Quickdraw > lol Erotica 1 > place total trust in me and you shall be rewarded Lady Quickdraw > i placed total trust in you lol Lady Quickdraw > thank you very much Erotica 1 > perhaps you can post a wallet pic on forum Lady Quickdraw > definitely Lady Quickdraw > and this convo Lady Quickdraw > :) Erotica 1 > it is no problem, you followed the rules Erotica 1 > :o) Erotica 1 > https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=219553&find=unread Lady Quickdraw > ill do it now :) ty again Erotica 1 > psst Erotica 1 > dont forget to keep up on www.minerbumping.com Erotica 1 > I have a feeling there may be a new article soon Lady Quickdraw > awesome Erotica 1 > guess what Lady Quickdraw > tell me Erotica 1 > what might an honest doubler do after making an initial investment? Lady Quickdraw > no idea lol, tell me Erotica 1 > double it of course Lady Quickdraw > ahhhh lol brilliant of course! Erotica 1 > I just sent james this isk lol Erotica 1 > and I shall be writing a new forum thread challenging other doublers to beat my investment Erotica 1 > brilliant! Erotica 1 > lol Lady Quickdraw > hahah brilliant i look forward to reading it!
I happily vouch for this service...IF YOU READ THE GODDAMN RULES!!!!! |

Mike Adoulin
Trans-Aerospace Industries
215
|
Posted - 2013.04.29 10:56:00 -
[120] - Quote
Dub Step wrote:I'm just surprised this old scam is still worthy of a thread 10 years on.
Good luck scammers, there certainly are plenty of idiots out there but this really isn't threadworthy.
Dude, people still fall for the classic Goon recruitment scam, and the tears are always delicious...... |

Eve Parker
State War Academy Caldari State
0
|
Posted - 2013.04.29 15:07:00 -
[121] - Quote
Bugsy VanHalen wrote:Ra Jackson wrote:Grandma Honeycakes wrote:Authorized Pixel Distributor wrote: I sent a small amount and she doubled without a problem. Then I sent 2b and she kept it. Total scam!
Maybe if you had read the rules you'd be space rich now. And what rule would she have broken? I thought it was quite obvious, players like you that do not read carefully are why she makes profit off this isk doubling game. She does not scam. But you only win if you follow the rules. If you break the rules you lose. a few examples; If you send her 550 mil, you broke the rules you will get nothing If you won 300M in round 1 and send 500M in round 2 you broke the rules. If you send 2.5B you broke the rules and get nothing If you do not see why these examples broke her rules then you are the type of player that allows her to run this legit isk doubling game and walk away with a profit. Those who have played her game and won multiple rounds understood and followed the rules.
Hi,
If someone invest 500m in round 1, he gets 1000m ISK back. That's the easy one, but in the next step the listed amounts are "600m - 1000m". So if someone gets 1000m back, he can't win round 2 because he has to invest minimum 2000m and it isn't a listet amount. Am I correct? So you have to put it the right amount of ISK in 1st round to win the 2nd round and then the 3rd?
So it isn't just a game, it's more like mathematical logic. Am I correct or wrong? |

Danalee
Righteous Immortal Pew Blue Sec
15
|
Posted - 2013.04.30 05:47:00 -
[122] - Quote
Eve Parker wrote: I thought it was quite obvious, blablabla
Some numbers that are perfectly readable on Erotica 1's bio
more blabla.
Let me start by saying that we have the utmost respect for Erotica 1's hard work and effort she puts into the EVE community. Her ISK doubling service is the only one that is 100% legitimate and easy to use.
If you fail at getting rich (by stealing Erotica's hard earned iskies) you have no place among the EVE gods and should be ashamed for any ill-conceived insult you direct at her.
D.
 |

Eve Parker
State War Academy Caldari State
0
|
Posted - 2013.04.30 10:54:00 -
[123] - Quote
Danalee wrote:Eve Parker wrote: I thought it was quite obvious, blablabla
Some numbers that are perfectly readable on Erotica 1's bio
more blabla.
Let me start by saying that we have the utmost respect for Erotica 1's hard work and effort she puts into the EVE community. Her ISK doubling service is the only one that is 100% legitimate and easy to use. If you fail at getting rich (by stealing Erotica's hard earned iskies) you have no place among the EVE gods and should be ashamed for any ill-conceived insult you direct at her. D. 
What are you talking about? I said nothing negative about her service, even I didn't use it yet. |

March rabbit
epTa Team Inc.
659
|
Posted - 2013.04.30 10:58:00 -
[124] - Quote
LoL. Erotica posts about scammers..... 
   |

March rabbit
epTa Team Inc.
659
|
Posted - 2013.04.30 11:00:00 -
[125] - Quote
Eve Parker wrote:What are you talking about? I said nothing negative about her service, even I didn't use it yet. well. try it.
but don't wonder when she "don't see your transaction. send money again and link screenshot". 
|

Xen Solarus
Inner 5phere
404
|
Posted - 2013.05.01 09:05:00 -
[126] - Quote
These links pretty much sum up how much of a lying, cheating scammer this scum is. Allow me to sum up the most important thing to come out of her mouth.
"I'm really a scammer".
They're a sucker born every minute people, don't become one.
Post with your main, like a BOSS! |

Authorized Pixel Distributor
Perkone Caldari State
0
|
Posted - 2013.05.01 11:19:00 -
[127] - Quote
Danalee wrote:Eve Parker wrote: I thought it was quite obvious, blablabla
Some numbers that are perfectly readable on Erotica 1's bio
more blabla.
Let me start by saying that we have the utmost respect for Erotica 1's hard work and effort she puts into the EVE community. Her ISK doubling service is the only one that is 100% legitimate and easy to use. If you fail at getting rich (by stealing Erotica's hard earned iskies) you have no place among the EVE gods and should be ashamed for any ill-conceived insult you direct at her. D. 
So them why wouldn't she double my 2b? hmmmm? and no refund if this was some "rule trick" hmmm?
Total scam |

Boom Boom Longtime
EVE Corporation 6908469858
366
|
Posted - 2013.05.01 11:53:00 -
[128] - Quote
Authorized Pixel Distributor wrote:Danalee wrote:Eve Parker wrote: I thought it was quite obvious, blablabla
Some numbers that are perfectly readable on Erotica 1's bio
more blabla.
Let me start by saying that we have the utmost respect for Erotica 1's hard work and effort she puts into the EVE community. Her ISK doubling service is the only one that is 100% legitimate and easy to use. If you fail at getting rich (by stealing Erotica's hard earned iskies) you have no place among the EVE gods and should be ashamed for any ill-conceived insult you direct at her. D.  So them why wouldn't she double my 2b? hmmmm? and no refund if this was some "rule trick" hmmm? Total scam If you did not read the rules properly and lost the game then you only have yourself to blame snowflake 
If you had been smart you might have prospered.
Total Fail.
You are akin to Augustus Gloop being drawn to the chocolate river in Wonka's factory. Fools and their Interstellar Kredits are Soon Parted. |

Jonasan Mikio
Hateful Munitions Totally Consensual
21
|
Posted - 2013.05.01 19:29:00 -
[129] - Quote
This thread is as comical as they come... gawd... you guys can collect my tears of laughter.... This **** is great!
Scam or no scam, I dont care the lawls and tears it generates is far past comical, hell even with everyone attacking and supporting her it makes people curious to try... I mean really people.... new world order alts supporting her? Naa... couldnt be that easy could it?
Either way please all parties keep up the good work... this is getting me through a very long work day! |

Chris Winter
Zephyr Corp V.A.S.T.
43
|
Posted - 2013.05.01 20:22:00 -
[130] - Quote
Authorized Pixel Distributor wrote: So them why wouldn't she double my 2b? hmmmm? and no refund if this was some "rule trick" hmmm?
Total scam
Because 2b isn't a valid amount to send her?
Quote:Send me 50M-500M, get 2x back.
Send 600M to 1 Billion get 3x back. Invest 3-5 Billion and get 5x back!
2bil is a donation. |

Mrs Isk Giveaway
University of Caille Gallente Federation
1
|
Posted - 2013.05.02 03:22:00 -
[131] - Quote
Hi Erotica 1,
Sorry i haven't been on for a little, back at work again lol.
Anyway how come you get others to post on forums about your "legit" services here..... Not many people would read them no? Maybe i should give it a try lol.
Also i am glad you are still making isk from scamming every now and then. I am still also making a killing thanks to your knowledge you have given me :)
Thankyou and keep up the pro scams! you rock
Regards
Mrs IskGiveaway |

Erotica 1
Krypteia Operations
63
|
Posted - 2013.05.04 09:35:00 -
[132] - Quote
Jonasan Mikio wrote:This thread is as comical as they come... gawd... you guys can collect my tears of laughter.... This **** is great!
Scam or no scam, I dont care the lawls and tears it generates is far past comical, hell even with everyone attacking and supporting her it makes people curious to try... I mean really people.... new world order alts supporting her? Naa... couldnt be that easy could it?
Either way please all parties keep up the good work... this is getting me through a very long work day!
Everyone knows it's no scam. What is sad is if the trolls actually played they might be rich. But I suspect the reason they don't that they cannot meet my small minimum investment. See Bio for isk doubling rules. -áIf you didn't read bio, chances are you helped fund those who did. |

Kro0k
Static Contamination Gathering Of Nomadic Explorers
1
|
Posted - 2013.05.05 00:43:00 -
[133] - Quote
Not only did she double my isk, she actually spit shined it too |

Hailok
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
0
|
Posted - 2013.05.05 04:05:00 -
[134] - Quote
Incredible how often people who vouch for Erotica 1 seem to use the phrase "space rich".
Just saying. 
In any case, the negative responses in this thread (and I see there's an additional thread going as well) will generate far more "business" than Erotica 1 could possibly hope to get by spamming local in Jita. A textbook marketing example if I ever saw one. Nicely done. |

Alicia Maken
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
1
|
Posted - 2013.05.05 22:33:00 -
[135] - Quote
Only thing i see that needs doubling is the I.Q. of some of the "hopefuls"...... |

Erotica 1
Krypteia Operations
65
|
Posted - 2013.05.07 22:24:00 -
[136] - Quote
Sorry I have been afk some. If you sent isk while I have been offline, I am still catching up. See Bio for isk doubling rules. -áIf you didn't read bio, chances are you helped fund those who did. |

Sabriz Adoudel
AWOXalypse
320
|
Posted - 2013.05.07 23:26:00 -
[137] - Quote
Hailok wrote:Incredible how often people who vouch for Erotica 1 seem to use the phrase "space rich". Just saying.  In any case, the negative responses in this thread (and I see there's an additional thread going as well) will generate far more "business" than Erotica 1 could possibly hope to get by spamming local in Jita. A textbook marketing example if I ever saw one. Nicely done.
"Space Rich" is a pretty common EVE term, although I will say I started using it when Psychotic Monk got me onto it.
AWOXalypse is coming! https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2898431 Buy shares: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=226618 An enemy is a friend you stab in the front. |

Erotica 1
Krypteia Operations
69
|
Posted - 2013.05.10 16:41:00 -
[138] - Quote
"Space rich" is a fairly common term used in this game. I hear it all the time. It probably originates from the many players who are rich in space but poor in real life. Naturally, it may sound odd to others who may be more inclined to play games of WoW, spongebob, my little pony, or something like that.
I know a thing or two about marketing, but I post here in the forums merely to service my client base as thoroughly as i can. What sets me apart from my competition is my high level of customer service. Every client is important.
In fact, if you check my bounty, you will see that many satisfied clients have left tips for me. You may laugh, but I often ask my clients to tip something if they were satisfied. See Bio for isk doubling rules. -áIf you didn't read bio, chances are you helped fund those who did. |

FuzzyButt
Rainbow Dash Goes Red Rainbow Dash Friends
28
|
Posted - 2013.05.11 14:18:00 -
[139] - Quote
Funny how people fall for scams in eve tho...
if this is one? Probably =))
But if someone send away ISK they can't afford too loose they're idiots anyways ^^ |

Yokai Mitsuhide
Smegnet Corp
3993
|
Posted - 2013.05.11 15:21:00 -
[140] - Quote
Boom Boom Longtime wrote:I find it rather comical the lengths some of you unsavories on the internet go towards endeavouring to unjustly sully and besmirch the name of a legitimate and generous business women.
Those of you who are posting falsehood "smokescreen" evidence should hold your heads in shame.
Keep up the good work Erotica, and ignore the jealous capsuleers who can't comprehend how giving to the community rather than taking from it can be a rewarding and enriching personal experience.
Go spew your scammer garbage back in Amarr...not here. And fix your face...you look ridiculous. |

FuzzyButt
Rainbow Dash Goes Red Rainbow Dash Friends
28
|
Posted - 2013.05.11 16:50:00 -
[141] - Quote
This is legit!
isk was doubled and i recommend this service. |

enterprisePSI
192
|
Posted - 2013.05.11 17:55:00 -
[142] - Quote
confirming, that Erotica 1's business is legit and i would recommend it to anyone. The mentioned individual doubled my ISK , 3 times as promised.
Also, after 5 years, finally ******* page snip!      The tears of the many, outweight the tears of the few. Or the one. enterprise-psi-¬
I made tweet, Y U NO FOLLOW!!! |

Sabriz Adoudel
AWOXalypse
335
|
Posted - 2013.05.12 04:38:00 -
[143] - Quote
Just a reminder - don't send ISK to Erotica drunk. Just saw someone lose a LOT of ISKies by being too drunk to read the rules properly.
Thanks to them for helping fund this service for everyone else! AWOXalypse is coming! https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2898431 Buy shares: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=226618 An enemy is a friend you stab in the front. |

ConstantineGrey
The Scope Gallente Federation
0
|
Posted - 2013.05.12 06:29:00 -
[144] - Quote
ended up loosing everything to her because of some arse that didnt pay attention to the amount we were at and went 1bill over :/ now im totally screwed and cant afford jack **** thanks |

Erotica 1
Krypteia Operations
74
|
Posted - 2013.05.12 15:33:00 -
[145] - Quote
ConstantineGrey wrote:ended up loosing everything to her because of some arse that didnt pay attention to the amount we were at and went 1bill over :/ now im totally screwed and cant afford jack **** thanks
Yeah last night really broke my heart that you lost all your isk and assets. I realIy wanted to see you get rich instead of leaving eve. I explained the rules over and over in that special client appreciation event. Sadly instead of paying out, I had to grab buckets for the tears.
For those of you that don't know, I have been holding special "client appreciation" special events lately because business has been so good. When I announce these, I'll allow clients to pool assets to hit a special target amount for a higher payout.
I was in yesterday's event for many hours, bending over backwards all day and all night to thoroughly service my clients' needs.
Sadly at the end a drunk guy came in and added a couple billion. He apparently didn't see the other clients already contributed a large variety of fitted ships, including a very nice t2 fit thanny to the pool. We exceeded the goal so I was forced to keep the 11 or 12b or so.
I really wish things had turned out differently (so I could have many rave reviews on here) but rules are rules. As much as I wanted to make an exception and payout 100b, my honour is far more important so that everyone know's I'm legit.
The good news is that the drunk guy from last who ruined it for everyone has made it easier for me to offer another group event soon.
Remember guys, don't play my game drunk! It pays to work together in group events.
Also, all of my bounty comes from clients. If you have used my service or know someone who has and you were entertained or satisfied with the wealth, please give some back in the form of a bounty on me. I undock regularly unlike the others on the billboard.
Thanks! See Bio for isk doubling rules. -áIf you didn't read bio, chances are you helped fund those who did. |

Tiranis Krato
The Scope Gallente Federation
0
|
Posted - 2013.05.13 02:56:00 -
[146] - Quote
Hi, Just wanted to say that Erotica's buissness is legit. I payed 50mil then 3 bil today and the 3 bil got x5'ed! Now i'm space rich and can finally afford that Rhea i've been saving for. Thanks once again to Ero! |

MAJESTIC DOPE
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
0
|
Posted - 2013.05.14 00:43:00 -
[147] - Quote
I came here to give an apology.
I was the one who messed up the game that Erotica 1 had going on for these fine folks and I had been drinking a **** load while in the channel. I can't actually remember anything besides some blurry images. I can recall seeing me open the bounty office to put all the isk I had on erotica's head so she would know that i wanted in on the bonus room too. Being too drunk i wasn't aware that my 2bil would put us over the limit and I ruined the game for all of us. I woke up with a huge hangover the next morning and screamed as a kicked the wall several times after checking my wallet. I really am sorry for what I have done but I know there is nothing I can do to fix it. |

Mike Adoulin
Trans-Aerospace Industries
218
|
Posted - 2013.05.14 03:06:00 -
[148] - Quote
'Drunk player'...............



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Sabriz Adoudel
AWOXalypse
338
|
Posted - 2013.05.14 23:15:00 -
[149] - Quote
MAJESTIC DOPE wrote:I came here to give an apology.
I was the one who messed up the game that Erotica 1 had going on for these fine folks and I had been drinking a **** load while in the channel. I can't actually remember anything besides some blurry images. I can recall seeing me open the bounty office to put all the isk I had on erotica's head so she would know that i wanted in on the bonus room too. Being too drunk i wasn't aware that my 2bil would put us over the limit and I ruined the game for all of us. I woke up with a huge hangover the next morning and screamed as a kicked the wall several times after checking my wallet. I really am sorry for what I have done but I know there is nothing I can do to fix it.
There are three rules of EVE.
1) Never undock any ship you can't afford to lose 2) Never trust anyone you couldn't punch in the face IRL
and 3) Never log on drunk.
I've broken #3 once. The next day I had 50m ISK missing from my wallet and a 50m bounty on my own head.
But anyways, thanks for keeping Erotica 1 solvent so that she can keep doubling other people's ISK. AWOXalypse is coming! https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2898431
Buy shares: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=226618
An enemy is a friend you stab in the front. |

Kegstand Mcfarland
Ekchuah's Shrine Comporium Kill It With Fire
5
|
Posted - 2013.05.16 04:12:00 -
[150] - Quote
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y155/gynsu666/Erotica1-Copy.jpg
I spent a good amount of time promoting that Erotica was legit. I finally decide to send him some cash and she "claims" I never sent it.
He finally admits after about a half hour of trolling me in mails he kept my money. Seems theres two things about his legit business he tries to cover up. When he feels like keeping someone's money he claims to DC and then to have never seen your donation in his wallet. I'd actually heard about this from some others who were on to that part of his game and tried to stick up for him.
Oh well first time I have been played in eve good job. Don't however try to come off like I was cheating you cause that is one thing I have never done in Eve. |

Kegstand Mcfarland
Ekchuah's Shrine Comporium Kill It With Fire
5
|
Posted - 2013.05.16 05:01:00 -
[151] - Quote
Tiranis Krato wrote:Hi, Just wanted to say that Erotica's buissness is legit. I payed 50mil then 3 bil today and the 3 bil got x5'ed! Now i'm space rich and can finally afford that Rhea i've been saving for. Thanks once again to Ero!
Paid alt most likely. Those who donate low get paid to make it look good basically. |

Authorized Pixel Distributor
Perkone Caldari State
0
|
Posted - 2013.05.16 06:18:00 -
[152] - Quote
Like you I also sent 2b to eroitica one and she didn't pay out! I lyke your style though, posting the same message in every forum she's in./ That's goonna annoy her for sure! |

Kegstand Mcfarland
Ekchuah's Shrine Comporium Kill It With Fire
27
|
Posted - 2013.05.16 07:06:00 -
[153] - Quote
Ya I actually liked that there was someone supposedly making money off folks inability to read. Watched a guy donate 5B which was less then double his first investment. I thought personally it was a good thing someone was running an honest type scam cause we know people just don't pay attention and oh well. I invested cause my friends was skeptical as well they should have been cause he never paid out lol.
Now ofc I know he also picks and chooses those he wants to pay out and well that is not legit. So I figure ill just make sure I post everywhere I see his adverts because well, I can. |

Drachiel
Mercury LLC
18
|
Posted - 2013.05.16 08:19:00 -
[154] - Quote
An ISK doubling scam with alts and trolls popping it up
Oh my god who the hell cares |

Malak Dawnfire
The Scope Gallente Federation
123
|
Posted - 2013.05.16 09:20:00 -
[155] - Quote
Drachiel wrote:An ISK doubling scam with alts and trolls popping it up
Oh my god who the hell cares
Tip of the Day: don't send your entire net worth to a random person over the internet and expect them to double anything except the amount of tears from your face. |

NinjaTurtle
Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group
26
|
Posted - 2013.05.16 16:17:00 -
[156] - Quote
Boom Boom Longtime wrote:I find it rather comical the lengths some of you unsavories on the internet go towards endeavouring to unjustly sully and besmirch the name of a legitimate and generous business women.
Those of you who are posting falsehood "smokescreen" evidence should hold your heads in shame.
Keep up the good work Erotica, and ignore the jealous capsuleers who can't comprehend how giving to the community rather than taking from it can be a rewarding and enriching personal experience.
This thread has come full circle Co-host and editor of Declarations of War Podcast http://declarationsofwar.com [Noir.] Director http://noirmercs.com Twitter- @schertt |

Sabriz Adoudel
AWOXalypse
339
|
Posted - 2013.05.17 01:32:00 -
[157] - Quote
Erotica 1 for CSM 9! AWOXalypse is coming! https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2898431 Buy shares: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=226618 An enemy is a friend you stab in the front. |

Sabriz Adoudel
AWOXalypse
339
|
Posted - 2013.05.17 01:34:00 -
[158] - Quote
Kegstand Mcfarland wrote:Tiranis Krato wrote:Hi, Just wanted to say that Erotica's buissness is legit. I payed 50mil then 3 bil today and the 3 bil got x5'ed! Now i'm space rich and can finally afford that Rhea i've been saving for. Thanks once again to Ero! Paid alt most likely. Those who donate low get paid to make it look good basically.
Erotica 1's alts all have - distinctive - names.
If you organise a lineup with 10 characters in it, 2 of them Ero alts, I could pick those 2 even if I'd never seen them before.
Tiranis is not one of them. AWOXalypse is coming! https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2898431 Buy shares: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=226618 An enemy is a friend you stab in the front. |

Jake Patton
Next Level Alcoholics Break-A-Wish Foundation
12
|
Posted - 2013.05.17 08:57:00 -
[159] - Quote
100% legit. Erotica made me a rich guy!
I'm not used to having more than 2bil in my wallet... I think I'll go have some fun in shiny ships!
To all you people claiming Erotica scammed you: read the rules next time! |

Jim Roebuck
Assisted Suicide Services Unclaimed.
62
|
Posted - 2013.05.17 13:37:00 -
[160] - Quote
So, with all these people saying that they are getting their ISK doubled, I wanted to try my hand at it.
I didn't want to go too cheap on her, but I'd say 20mil was a good start. About 30 seconds later, I received 40mil ISK.
Sent her back that same 40mil, received 80mil.
Sent her 80mi, came back 160mil.
I think I can consider her a legit ISK doubler, although from what it looks like, don't send anything close to or over a bil ISK. "Black shadows hanging over his shoulders Black mark up against your name Your green eyes couldn't get any colder There's red poison flowing through your veins..." AC/DC, Evil Walks |

Immortal Chrono Pimpin
Atolla Nimissary Corps
1
|
Posted - 2013.05.17 21:31:00 -
[161] - Quote
Dr. Scam also doubles isk and gives out 1 mil if you x up in local when he says so its like a little game :) |

Erotica 1
Krypteia Operations
81
|
Posted - 2013.05.19 17:49:00 -
[162] - Quote
I just want to remind everyone about something someone said awhile back... notice that those who post negatively about me have very few "likes" compared to those that post positively. It appears that those who are well-respected by the community should be listened to. See Bio for isk doubling rules. -áIf you didn't read bio, chances are you helped fund those who did. |

TEKGURU5683 Shane
Mordu's Military Industrial Command Circle-Of-Two
0
|
Posted - 2013.05.19 22:33:00 -
[163] - Quote
[b]100% legit!!!! Trust me!!! This chick is legit!!!
    |

rswfire
Firesworn Firesworn Nation
78
|
Posted - 2013.05.20 07:24:00 -
[164] - Quote
Erotica 1 wrote: I just want to remind everyone about something someone said awhile back... notice that those who post negatively about me have very few "likes" compared to those that post positively. It appears that those who are well-respected by the community should be listened to.
I posted negatively about you and we have a near equal number of likes. Not sure what this says about me, if I were to go by your criteria. Fortunately, I don't.
Your analogy is akin to scammers pretending that bounties placed on themare "thanks." You're all smoke and mirrors. You're amusing at times, but you're starting to get old. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZYAz0aWEzpw
http://www.firesworn.com/index.php?/topic/69-about-firesworn-nation/
|

Erotica 1
Krypteia Operations
82
|
Posted - 2013.05.20 07:56:00 -
[165] - Quote
rswfire wrote:Erotica 1 wrote: I just want to remind everyone about something someone said awhile back... notice that those who post negatively about me have very few "likes" compared to those that post positively. It appears that those who are well-respected by the community should be listened to.
I posted negatively about you and we have a near equal number of likes. Not sure what this says about me, if I were to go by your criteria. Fortunately, I don't. Your analogy is akin to scammers pretending that bounties placed on themare "thanks." You're all smoke and mirrors. You're amusing at times, but you're starting to get old.
oops you meant to post as an alt. Anyway, if you read carefully I wasn't referring to myself- I was referring to those who post about me.
No wonder you lost my game.... See Bio for isk doubling rules. -áIf you didn't read bio, chances are you helped fund those who did. |

Erotica 1
Krypteia Operations
135
|
Posted - 2013.05.23 21:41:00 -
[166] - Quote
OFFICIAL ANNOUNCEMENT:
Due to the wild success of my original game....
I have started doing Client Appreciation Events for larger payouts.
These are games where clients are actually encouraged to work together! Bring all your alts and friends with you for a day of teamwork and skill-based winning.
Contact me in game for an invite.
Warm regards,
Ero See Bio for isk doubling rules. -áIf you didn't read bio, chances are you helped fund those who did. |

rswfire
Firesworn Firesworn Nation
82
|
Posted - 2013.05.24 06:07:00 -
[167] - Quote
Erotica 1 wrote:oops you meant to post as an alt. Anyway, if you read carefully I wasn't referring to myself- I was referring to those who post about me.
No wonder you lost my game....
That's absolutely nonsensical. Why would I post as an alt? And I think you know I've never played your game. In fact, I've gone to great lengths to warn the Eve community about people like you:
http://www.firesworn.com/topic/182-common-scams-in-eve-online/
You should just accept the fact that some of us see through your game. I know what you're doing here. "Say something enough times and people will believe you." http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZYAz0aWEzpw http://www.firesworn.com/index.php?/topic/69-about-firesworn-nation/
|

Sabriz Adoudel
AWOXalypse
366
|
Posted - 2013.05.24 06:18:00 -
[168] - Quote
rswfire wrote:Erotica 1 wrote:oops you meant to post as an alt. Anyway, if you read carefully I wasn't referring to myself- I was referring to those who post about me.
No wonder you lost my game.... That's absolutely nonsensical. Why would I post as an alt? And I think you know I've never played your game. In fact, I've gone to great lengths to warn the Eve community about people like you: http://www.firesworn.com/topic/182-common-scams-in-eve-online/You should just accept the fact that some of us see through your game. I know what you're doing here. "Say something enough times and people will believe you."
I'd provide API evidence that Erotica 1 is legit, but I have a few things in there that I'd rather hide in mine (factor of 10 contract scams, good items to trade, identities of AWOX alts and other hidden alts etc). Erotica 1's business model isn't the old 'steal from everyone' approach, it's the 'ruthlessly enforce the precise letter of the contract' approach (with more leniancy on small payouts).
You would be astounded how many people pay Erotica a small amount of ISK and break a rule or two. Erotica pays them anyway, then they deposit a much larger amount breaking the same rule, and Erotica keeps that ISK, using some to fund payouts for smart people that follow the rules, and putting some into other ventures like her obscene collection of tech 1 frigates. AWOXalypse is coming! https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2898431 Buy shares: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=226618 An enemy is a friend you stab in the front. |

rswfire
Firesworn Firesworn Nation
82
|
Posted - 2013.05.24 06:32:00 -
[169] - Quote
Sabriz Adoudel wrote:I'd provide API evidence that Erotica 1 is legit, but I have a few things in there that I'd rather hide in mine (factor of 10 contract scams, good items to trade, identities of AWOX alts and other hidden alts etc). Erotica 1's business model isn't the old 'steal from everyone' approach, it's the 'ruthlessly enforce the precise letter of the contract' approach (with more leniancy on small payouts).
You would be astounded how many people pay Erotica a small amount of ISK and break a rule or two. Erotica pays them anyway, then they deposit a much larger amount breaking the same rule, and Erotica keeps that ISK, using some to fund payouts for smart people that follow the rules, and putting some into other ventures like her obscene collection of tech 1 frigates.
I'll admit that I was on the fence about Erotica 1 for a very long time, but then (s)he made a mistake and posted an image that was proven to be Photoshopped. There was no way to deny it at that point. I think there's a very good chance that part of the time (s)he absolutely plays by the rules and other times does not. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZYAz0aWEzpw http://www.firesworn.com/index.php?/topic/69-about-firesworn-nation/
|

Lyris Nairn
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
10637
|
Posted - 2013.05.24 08:32:00 -
[170] - Quote
I would post endorsement of Erotica 1 in the form of a Naruto Shippuden fanfiction, but I think the sagacity and guile of such a writing would surpass the collective intelligence of my audience; furthermore, attempts to further deduce this tale to its base parts would require disclosure of my API information, which by the word of SOLODRAKBAN through His Designated Officials is not something I am allowed to do. I would be happy to solicit from Erotica 1 the API information for that account, which I would then post to a bona fide and legit API website such as eveboard; thus, we could settle once and for all a bet that I made with a corp mate of mine in which I claimed that Erotica 1 writes me haikus in the comments of my winnings.
ps I am space rich :toot: Sky Captain of Your Heart Vote Lyris Nairn for CSM8 |

Tachibane Kanade
The Scope Gallente Federation
0
|
Posted - 2013.05.24 10:22:00 -
[171] - Quote
This thread is a joke. Lets take this to real-life for reference.
Person A is telling to everyone: Hello everyone, if you give me 100 euro, I will give you 200 euro back. Why? Because I am almighty rich and I dont care.
Person "B" who is smart, knows this is a scam, but he pays 100 euro anyway and he gets it doubled. He Gambled, because it could also have been lost right away, but he decided that he could take the loss.
Why?
The scammer hopes that he is going to tell everyone "this guy is legit! He doubled my money!! OMGG... So, person A is getting (with time) more customers, but he is going to scam them ofcourse. First he might double it, then you think ok, I give you 1000 now because you feel safe, and then he keeps it. U just got served.
A golden rule:
If something is too good to be true, it usually isn't.
What you c+ín do, is give it a try, and hope you can scam the scammer because HE doesnt know you only going to invest 1 time. ;-) |

Hydra Fire
THE GOLDEN GODS
2
|
Posted - 2013.05.24 22:11:00 -
[172] - Quote
WARNIG THIS IS A SCAM.
today i took erotica up on her bonus room. shehe asked me to give all i had. scince i saw this post i thought it was legit. in the end he/she made up a sad excuse saying that i lied. i told them i was in the library where i was whe i was i my houses library room. a
anyways dont trust eroctica she/he will take everything you own |

Authorized Pixel Distributor
Perkone Caldari State
1
|
Posted - 2013.05.25 00:41:00 -
[173] - Quote
Hydra Fire wrote:WARNIG THIS IS A SCAM.
today i took erotica up on her bonus room. shehe asked me to give all i had. scince i saw this post i thought it was legit. in the end he/she made up a sad excuse saying that i lied. i told them i was in the library where i was whe i was i my houses library room. a
anyways dont trust eroctica she/he will take everything you own
it know use buddie, noone listens. Like you, she scammed me for everything. I played her game and sent 2 billion isk. she clames i broke rule. she tricked me like she tricked you with complicacated rules. |

Blue Absinthe
Wardec U
2
|
Posted - 2013.05.25 21:29:00 -
[174] - Quote
I don't understand some of the complaints by people. I at first had an issue where my contribution wasn't correctly submitted (not totally clear to me what happened though) but I was offered the chance to double again with a picture of the contribution to have both amounts doubled. In truth I agonized whether to do it or not, but I did redouble and got paid everything in full.
I made so much isk, it blows my mind that some people complain on the forums about her. Follow the correct procedure and profit, it's that simple. |

High Security Agent
University of Caille Gallente Federation
0
|
Posted - 2013.05.26 03:03:00 -
[175] - Quote
I spend my days defending the carebears and unknowing pilots of EVE.
Many an AWOX have been foiled due to my network of agents.
However, with that being said, I must point out that Erotica1's services are 100% legitimate. You can trust my word as an agent of High Security pilots. My agents have all utilized her program to fund the operations against the scum of EVE.
As a token of proof of my work, therefore proving Erotica's services are clean by my word: The following is a conversation that I remember in my head and I xx'd out the date since I can't remember what day my agents foiled this AWOX:
n++[ 2013.04.27 01:06:07 ] Thurmon Severasse > [01:03:31] The Invisible Swordsman > I was just convoed and told there was another Awoxer in corp. As a precaution I'm cancelling all corp ops for the time being. This includes mission and mining ops. n++[ 2013.04.xx 01:07:03 ] Thurmon Severasse > someone spilled the beans. Lame :( n++[ 2013.04.xx 01:13:16 ] Thurmon Severasse > No honour among thieves right? n++[ 2013.04.xx 01:13:30 ] Jaedel Vaeneth > Honor? Lame n++[ 2013.04.xx 01:14:07 ] Psychotic Monk > The channel is public, but I doubt that was the issue. n++[ 2013.04.xx 01:14:25 ] Psychotic Monk > Did a former victim spoil it? n++[ 2013.04.xx 01:14:41 ] KromTheDestroyer > he's got no history. n++[ 2013.04.xx 01:14:55 ] Thurmon Severasse > nah, someone logged an alt and convo'd the CEO telling him they had info on an awoxer and the targets, wanted isk for it n++[ 2013.04.xx 01:15:07 ] KromTheDestroyer > Lame. n++[ 2013.04.xx 01:15:25 ] Jaedel Vaeneth > That sucks n++[ 2013.04.xx 01:15:49 ] Thurmon Severasse > [01:09:29] [CEO] > yep. a 6 day old alt. said they had info on awoxer and targets. sounds like nonsense to me. fear based scam. yeah, they wanted $ for info. I declined the offer. n++[ 2013.04.xx 01:16:11 ] Thurmon Severasse > Just gonna have to stop chatting in here on my active char :p n++[ 2013.04.xx 01:16:13 ] Psychotic Monk > Oh. n++[ 2013.04.xx 01:16:16 ] Psychotic Monk > lol
If my word is not enough, give Erotica's services a try and you will not be disappointed. |

Vawd
Tax Evasion Ltd
0
|
Posted - 2013.05.27 15:30:00 -
[176] - Quote
Do I see two transactions of 950 Million? Why send her another one after the first? |

Vawd
Tax Evasion Ltd
0
|
Posted - 2013.05.27 15:36:00 -
[177] - Quote
Yay double post. |

Vawd
Tax Evasion Ltd
0
|
Posted - 2013.05.27 15:39:00 -
[178] - Quote
Yay tripple post. |

Freeman11
State War Academy Caldari State
5
|
Posted - 2013.05.28 11:31:00 -
[179] - Quote
Want to Sell: Rigged Gneiss
I put shield rigs and an afterburner on my gneiss and I am looking to get about 85million for it. Anyone? This game is ruthless... |

March rabbit
epTa Team Inc.
695
|
Posted - 2013.05.28 12:21:00 -
[180] - Quote
High Security Agent wrote:If my word is not enough, give Erotica's services a try and you will not be disappointed. get out bugger.
|

March rabbit
epTa Team Inc.
695
|
Posted - 2013.05.28 12:23:00 -
[181] - Quote
Erotica 1 wrote: I just want to remind everyone about something someone said awhile back... notice that those who post negatively about me have very few "likes" compared to those that post positively. It appears that those who are well-respected by the community should be listened to.
because people usually give more likes to ****-posts and troll ones. learn2forums |

Boom Boom Longtime
EVE Corporation 6908469858
370
|
Posted - 2013.05.28 13:33:00 -
[182] - Quote
March rabbit wrote:Erotica 1 wrote: I just want to remind everyone about something someone said awhile back... notice that those who post negatively about me have very few "likes" compared to those that post positively. It appears that those who are well-respected by the community should be listened to.
because people usually give more likes to ****-posts and troll ones. learn2forums It not gneiss to see that you don't have the gnosis to sniff out good deals. Fools and their Interstellar Kredits are Soon Parted. |

Ramona McCandless
Standards and Practices Petition Blizzard
21
|
Posted - 2013.05.28 19:14:00 -
[183] - Quote
Hydra Fire wrote: i told them i was in the library where i was whe i was i my houses library room. a
What a finely thought out and above all coherent post "proving" Erotica 1 is "scamming".
The only people being scammed around here are legit businesswomen like Erotica 1, who are losing revenue due to baseless slander.
"You designed these rules to trick me and it's not fair! I don't have anything left and might as well quit now..."-á-á-Authorized Pixel Distributor
Tell The Others |

Erotica 1
Krypteia Operations
170
|
Posted - 2013.05.29 02:58:00 -
[184] - Quote
Ramona McCandless wrote:Hydra Fire wrote: i told them i was in the library where i was whe i was i my houses library room. a
What a finely thought out and above all coherent post "proving" Erotica 1 is "scamming". The only people being scammed around here are legit businesswomen like Erotica 1, who are losing revenue due to baseless slander.
Luckily the truth is getting out to the masses via James 315's miner bumping site. So many people are trying to scam me when all they have to do is follow the rules. See Bio for isk doubling rules. -áIf you didn't read bio, chances are you helped fund those who did. |

Darvaleth Sigma
Progressive State State Section 9
249
|
Posted - 2013.05.31 13:16:00 -
[185] - Quote
I'm guessing this is what happens when Chribba gets a split-personality disorder... turns from a benevolent 3rd party deal-maker into a simple scammer. Remember the golden rule of Eve:
If it sounds too good to be true, it is. Give a man a match and you warm him for a day.
Set a man on fire and he's warm for the rest of his life! |

March rabbit
epTa Team Inc.
705
|
Posted - 2013.05.31 13:32:00 -
[186] - Quote
Erotica 1 wrote:Luckily the truth is getting out to the masses via James 315's miner bumping site. good company. one deserve another.
|

Ramona McCandless
Standards and Practices Petition Blizzard
40
|
Posted - 2013.05.31 13:58:00 -
[187] - Quote
March rabbit wrote: good company. one deserve another.
I agree. A respectable business woman and a man trying to get the morons to clean up their act.
Both after my own hearts. "You designed these rules to trick me and it's not fair! I don't have anything left and might as well quit now..."-á-á-Authorized Pixel Distributor
Tell The Others |

March rabbit
epTa Team Inc.
705
|
Posted - 2013.05.31 14:16:00 -
[188] - Quote
Ramona McCandless wrote:March rabbit wrote: good company. one deserve another.
I agree. A respectable business woman and a man trying to get the morons to clean up their act. Both after my own hearts. to each their own.
personally i prefer trustworthy people |

Ramona McCandless
Standards and Practices Petition Blizzard
40
|
Posted - 2013.05.31 14:17:00 -
[189] - Quote
March rabbit wrote:
personally i prefer trustworthy people
Why what did James do that made him untrustworthy? "You designed these rules to trick me and it's not fair! I don't have anything left and might as well quit now..."-á-á-Authorized Pixel Distributor
Tell The Others |

Anyura
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
102
|
Posted - 2013.05.31 14:19:00 -
[190] - Quote
Ramona McCandless wrote:March rabbit wrote: good company. one deserve another.
I agree. A respectable business woman and a man trying to get the morons to clean up their act. Both after my own hearts.
I am a person after your own heart. I know a few folks that would pay good ISKies for it. <3 |

Ramona McCandless
Standards and Practices Petition Blizzard
40
|
Posted - 2013.05.31 14:27:00 -
[191] - Quote
Anyura wrote:
I am a person after your own heart. I know a few folks that would pay good ISKies for it. <3
Really? Please tell me one of them is my dearest brother Damien. I have so missed him. "You designed these rules to trick me and it's not fair! I don't have anything left and might as well quit now..."-á-á-Authorized Pixel Distributor
Tell The Others |

Vera Algaert
Republic University Minmatar Republic
918
|
Posted - 2013.05.31 15:22:00 -
[192] - Quote
Blue Absinthe wrote:I don't understand some of the complaints by people. I at first had an issue where my contribution wasn't correctly submitted (not totally clear to me what happened though) but I was offered the chance to double again with a picture of the contribution to have both amounts doubled. In truth I agonized whether to do it or not, but I did redouble and got paid everything in full.
I made so much isk, it blows my mind that some people complain on the forums about her. Follow the correct procedure and profit, it's that simple. except by sending isk a second time you are breaking the correct procedure... |

March rabbit
epTa Team Inc.
705
|
Posted - 2013.05.31 16:14:00 -
[193] - Quote
Ramona McCandless wrote:March rabbit wrote:
personally i prefer trustworthy people
Why what did James do that made him untrustworthy? [trollface]allowing Erotica to use his forum to scam people?[/trollface] |

Ramona McCandless
Standards and Practices Petition Blizzard
40
|
Posted - 2013.05.31 16:31:00 -
[194] - Quote
March rabbit wrote:Ramona McCandless wrote:March rabbit wrote:
personally i prefer trustworthy people
Why what did James do that made him untrustworthy? [trollface]allowing Erotica to use his forum to scam people?[/trollface]
Your argument is circular and is based on hearsay and rumour.
James is untrustworthy because Erotic is untrustworthy because she uses James' forums?
Clearly you have some sort of vested interest in spreading slander against two people, one who is the victim of all kinds of rumour-mongering from the "cant read, wont read" brigade, and the other whose only crime is pursing the advancement of appropriate standards in mining practice.
If you have no actual evidence, then its your word against many many others. "You designed these rules to trick me and it's not fair! I don't have anything left and might as well quit now..."-á-á-Authorized Pixel Distributor
Tell The Others |

Darvaleth Sigma
Progressive State State Section 9
249
|
Posted - 2013.05.31 20:40:00 -
[195] - Quote
Sensible people reading this thread will know it's a scam, unsensible people need only acknowledge the very fact that it's debated (for whatever strange reason) means they should stay well away. This isn't runescape ffs. Give a man a match and you warm him for a day.
Set a man on fire and he's warm for the rest of his life! |

Erotica 1
Krypteia Operations
181
|
Posted - 2013.06.01 20:01:00 -
[196] - Quote
Darvaleth Sigma wrote:I'm guessing this is what happens when Chribba gets a split-personality disorder... turns from a benevolent 3rd party deal-maker into a simple scammer. Remember the golden rule of Eve:
If it sounds too good to be true, it is.
I take offense to that. Chribba is actually very boring in chat. Every time I offer to double his Veldnaught, he says he doesn't have time because he has to mine more veldspar...
People know I'm honest. Instead of wasting keystrokes spreading lies, perhaps you should play for yourself. Trolls never win. People who play my game win. That is, if they can read...
Can you read, or is that your hesitation? See Bio for isk doubling rules. -áIf you didn't read bio, chances are you helped fund those who did. |

Amyclas Amatin
sleep Deprivation INC. LLC The Kadeshi
105
|
Posted - 2013.06.04 10:19:00 -
[197] - Quote
Darvaleth Sigma wrote:Sensible people reading this thread will know it's a scam, unsensible people need only acknowledge the very fact that it's debated (for whatever strange reason) means they should stay well away. This isn't runescape ffs.
You have given no proof for your little factoid assertion. Erotica 1 runs a clean and enjoyable game. Slander from the losers are just a natural consequence from risky undertakings such as this.
Many butthurt carebears also called James 315 a scammer, but the truth is, he delivers his catalyst SRP on time, and all the shareholder money is used as promised. I believe Erotica 1, as a businesswoman of honor, always delivers on her promises to the letter. Please help me with my survey on high-sec aggression: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1dLcM27c_qDyOIxFgE4Zan_T8j_eZDDeCUAEL4lwXGC8/viewform |

Markus Navarro
Osmon Integrated Robotics
39
|
Posted - 2013.06.06 03:52:00 -
[198] - Quote
But he never brings the catalyst :(
I asked him to catalyst me plenty of time and he failed to respond each time, rather preferring to bump 1 of the 200 russian miners in the belt.
That's some heavy ball dropping on his part, he needs to clean up his act ! I sell drones and drones accessories. |

March rabbit
epTa Team Inc.
711
|
Posted - 2013.06.06 08:10:00 -
[199] - Quote
Erotica 1 wrote:Luckily the truth is getting out to the masses via James 315's miner bumping site. So many people are trying to scam me when all they have to do is follow the rules. good company 
scammer-liar and miner hater
ELITE of Eve Online 
|

xX1337xHoneyzXx
Belt Cloppers
0
|
Posted - 2013.06.07 10:02:00 -
[200] - Quote
As a user of Erotica 1's honest isk double services, I can vouch for her 100%.
I am deeply saddened to read the lies that are being spun about one of New Eden's most honest and hard working citizens 
xX1337xHoneyzXx Agent of the New Order of High Sec "Helping miners, help themselves!" |

LizAlec
Odd Enterprises
1
|
Posted - 2013.06.07 16:19:00 -
[201] - Quote
Fact is that isk double scammers always pay out a few times to the chumps that test it with 1,2...10mil but then when someone thinks its legit (see stupid) and hands over 100mil+ they get scammed... has been happening since beta but people still fall for it ; ) |

Erotica 1
Krypteia Operations
218
|
Posted - 2013.06.07 18:00:00 -
[202] - Quote
LizAlec wrote:Fact is that isk double scammers always pay out a few times to the chumps that test it with 1,2...10mil but then when someone thinks its legit (see stupid) and hands over 100mil+ they get scammed... has been happening since beta but people still fall for it ; )
The very last client was paid 3b. Explain that away. Seriously, you should do some research before you guess. Just because someone may have scammed you before does not make me any less honest. Fly safe. See Bio for isk doubling rules. -áIf you didn't read bio, chances are you helped fund those who did. |

Capt Starfox
The Carnifex Corp
425
|
Posted - 2013.06.08 03:04:00 -
[203] - Quote
Hydra Fire wrote:WARNIG THIS IS A SCAM.
today i took erotica up on her bonus room. shehe asked me to give all i had. scince i saw this post i thought it was legit. in the end he/she made up a sad excuse saying that i lied. i told them i was in the library where i was whe i was i my houses library room. a
anyways dont trust eroctica she/he will take everything you own
Dude, you lied. Plain and simple. You had the chance and blew it. Don't come to Eve-O and splurge your own lies about a really awesome person. The empirical probability of your ship being ganked is... good. |

Freeman11
State War Academy Caldari State
24
|
Posted - 2013.06.09 01:27:00 -
[204] - Quote
Bonus rooms are great This game is ruthless... |

Jack Tronic
borkedLabs
99
|
Posted - 2013.06.09 05:40:00 -
[205] - Quote
You know C&P has gone downhill when troll threads are unfunny and dull. |

Xtreme Xtm
The League of Extrodinary Monoculed Gentlmen
0
|
Posted - 2013.06.10 07:21:00 -
[206] - Quote
100% legit
http://puu.sh/3coCv.png |

Dymyntyd
The League of Extrodinary Monoculed Gentlmen
0
|
Posted - 2013.06.10 07:45:00 -
[207] - Quote
Friend of Xtreme Xtm and corpmates, I can comfirm I got the same treatment, completely fair and legitimate business practices. |

Lekyr Faren
Reason Ghilde
0
|
Posted - 2013.06.10 17:09:00 -
[208] - Quote
Seems a fair game to me, entertaining and legit (at least for my first try )
Way more fun than trade Hubs scammers ^^. |

Joan Greywind
I Moan ALOT We Moan ALOT
8
|
Posted - 2013.06.12 03:12:00 -
[209] - Quote
confirming that i made 2b from erotica's services, I just wish you can change the rules about only being able to play once. |

Sajun Benza
Lost in the Wasteland
2
|
Posted - 2013.06.12 10:33:00 -
[210] - Quote
funny how out of all the isk doublers, Erotica 1 is the only one making forum posts and asking for proof. Why would someone who has BILLIONS of isk try to scam anyone?
I bet a bunch of isk doubling scammers got together and started abusing photoshop and other software to ruin the name of their archnemessis.
When I lost my first battleship to a can baiter ( I was unfamiliar with that tactic) I doubled my last 60 mil with Erotica 3 times and was back in the game, running level 4's. Gonna ask CCP for the transaction log, it's pretty old though. |

Erotica 1
Krypteia Operations
504
|
Posted - 2013.06.16 17:59:00 -
[211] - Quote
Sajun Benza wrote:funny how out of all the isk doublers, Erotica 1 is the only one making forum posts and asking for proof. Why would someone who has BILLIONS of isk try to scam anyone?
I bet a bunch of isk doubling scammers got together and started abusing photoshop and other software to ruin the name of their archnemessis.
When I lost my first battleship to a can baiter ( I was unfamiliar with that tactic) I doubled my last 60 mil with Erotica 3 times and was back in the game, running level 4's. Gonna ask CCP for the transaction log, it's pretty old though.
One by one, I am winning the doubters over by doubling their isk. See Bio for isk doubling rules. -áIf you didn't read bio, chances are you helped fund those who did. |

MacKael
Osmosis Inc F.E.R.A.L
0
|
Posted - 2013.06.17 04:39:00 -
[212] - Quote
Vouching 100%
Sent 500m received 1b!!!!
Great service and also very patient. Apologized for being afk and found my donation and promptly doubled
Thanks again! |

Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Academy The ROC
261
|
Posted - 2013.06.17 05:57:00 -
[213] - Quote
Erotica 1, promoting reading comprehension, punishing fools, and encouraging forum alt paranoia.
I aprove heavily of all of these things, especially the forum alt paranoia. For some reason, I just love this, and I attempt to encourage it myself when I can.
I have yet to play this game myself yet, but the tears in this thread make me smile. Not posting on my main, and loving it.-á Because free speech.-á |

Sabriz Adoudel
Federal Defense Union
439
|
Posted - 2013.06.17 06:35:00 -
[214] - Quote
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Erotica 1, promoting reading comprehension, punishing fools, and encouraging forum alt paranoia.
I aprove heavily of all of these things, especially the forum alt paranoia. For some reason, I just love this, and I attempt to encourage it myself when I can.
I have yet to play this game myself yet, but the tears in this thread make me smile.
Are you my alt? Or are you the alt of one of the voices in my head?
An enemy is just a friend that you stab in the front. |

Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Academy The ROC
262
|
Posted - 2013.06.17 06:37:00 -
[215] - Quote
Sabriz Adoudel wrote:Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Erotica 1, promoting reading comprehension, punishing fools, and encouraging forum alt paranoia.
I aprove heavily of all of these things, especially the forum alt paranoia. For some reason, I just love this, and I attempt to encourage it myself when I can.
I have yet to play this game myself yet, but the tears in this thread make me smile. Are you my alt? Or are you the alt of one of the voices in my head?
I had assumed the same about you.
I suppose we are each the voice in the head of the other's imaginary friend?
...
Oww, I hurt my brain with that Inception-style sentence. Not posting on my main, and loving it.-á Because free speech.-á |

Onomerous
Shockwave Innovations Surely You're Joking
125
|
Posted - 2013.06.17 17:23:00 -
[216] - Quote
11 pages about a scammer? cool. Never thought it would go this long. |

Erotica 1
Krypteia Operations
544
|
Posted - 2013.06.17 20:18:00 -
[217] - Quote
Onomerous wrote:11 pages about a scammer? cool. Never thought it would go this long.
It's 11 pages because it's not a scam. Send isk and be the next success story. See Bio for isk doubling rules. -áIf you didn't read bio, chances are you helped fund those who did. |

Kaiko Nakorim
The Squad
0
|
Posted - 2013.06.18 12:50:00 -
[218] - Quote
I think i was scammed, too. 24 Hours are now done, and no ISK was sent back.
But i have learn something for life... |

Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Academy The ROC
272
|
Posted - 2013.06.19 06:33:00 -
[219] - Quote
A shout out to this legitimate business, and a screenshot to boot.
http://postimg.org/image/zej6jvgk1/ Not posting on my main, and loving it.-á Because free speech.-á |

DeBingJos
Black Dragon Fighting Society The Devil's Tattoo
561
|
Posted - 2013.06.19 11:01:00 -
[220] - Quote
Legit ISK doubler
-> pick 2 Ungi ma+¦urinn ++ekkir reglurnar, en gamli ma+¦urinn ++ekkir undantekningarnar. The young man knows the rules, but the old man knows the exceptions. |

Sissy Sockpuppet
State War Academy Caldari State
6
|
Posted - 2013.06.19 11:55:00 -
[221] - Quote
Kaiko Nakorim wrote:I think i was scammed, too. 24 Hours are now done, and no ISK was sent back.
But i have learn something for life...
That's a shame.
It's a pity many other people weren't telling sponges like yourself not to... in the Crime & Punishment forum of all places too.
What's the world coming to? |

Vayeate Marquise
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
17
|
Posted - 2013.06.19 21:12:00 -
[222] - Quote
I bet all my lolipops erotica won't send me 5 billion isk!  Problem? ~.~ |

Tachibane Kanade
The Scope Gallente Federation
1
|
Posted - 2013.07.08 08:40:00 -
[223] - Quote
I am truly amazed to see this topic still being so active while any decent normal thinking (Read: Not braindead) knows that this is a scam. I am btw really intrigued by the way of Erotica's scamming lengths.
I read this thread full with enjoyment how she keeps tricking people, and I dare say alot of her profit comes directly because of this very thread. I also love how she points to people having "many likes". I just keep wondering if she doesn't control many alts and she boosts her other accounts with likes every day or every post.. dnno exactly but its a good way to try and win over other people who are still having 'doubts' to push them over and give it a go.
I really wonder how many billions you earn each day by doing this 'practice'. I also notice you are not the only one, perhaps you were the original person who came up with this? There are tons of people who spam everyday this 'double your ISK' bussiness.
Anyways my final warning to any person giving it a go:
While there are a few very rich people in the real world who freely give money for their amusement or 'because they can'... If you come across this 'Erotica' person in real life, face to face and she would tell you that if you give him 100 euro, she would give you 200 euro back.
Would you do it? (Imagine, that your in a situation where despite she being right in front of you, you can't really touch her, my idea here is that you shouldn't think that you going to grab her and force your money back if she lied.). Would you give her your 100 euro, or would you walk away?
I would believe almost any person to walk away, and not trust the whole situation. I would advice to do the same here. But, Like i said before... I enjoy reading this thread from time to time, and see people's comments who actually went ahead. And I enjoy reading these alts repping her up and say its legit, also I believe that Erotica actually does payout to a certain percetage of her profits to keep the idea going its legit, as people would also come to this thread to post that it is truly legit and would in turn make other people have doubts again and get more customers again to scam. ;)
|

Lyrka Bloodberry
Spybeaver
90
|
Posted - 2013.07.08 10:17:00 -
[224] - Quote
I'm always reminded of this when I read such threads:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dCeD2gF9jUo Spybeaver |

Tinker Vuld
New Order Logistics CODE.
5
|
Posted - 2013.07.08 10:32:00 -
[225] - Quote
I don't know about those other isk doublers but I can confirm that thanks to Erotica 1 and her honest isk business I have been able to fund many a t2 catalyst for my future activities www.minerbumping.com - study it, live it, breathe it, for The Code shall set you free. |

Bladerunner Darkborn
J.T. Marlin Financial and Legal Services
0
|
Posted - 2013.07.11 17:55:00 -
[226] - Quote
As you know you scammed me just last night. I provided you with wallet pics as you asked in this very thread, yet you still could not admit it. You claimed a lack of literacy, you claimed your journal was bugged, you even claimed the now typical "my wallet was spammed" excuse.
You admitted that I played the "game" correctly. 50 million (investment 1), 500 million (investment 2) and then 3 Billion (investment 3). If anyone is curious that is the answer, no other amounts allowed or they will be considered "donations". When I asked why you did not return the ISK you made one excuse after another. From needing a cigarette to your wallet being spammed to your inability to read your journal.
So enjoy the pics again.....
Investments 1 and 2 http://imgur.com/zg9zjuX
Investment 3 http://imgur.com/9Hs6afc
So if you are legit prove it.
But you aren't so just man up and say you aren't. Funniest thing about scammers is that they lack the balls to admit they are scammers.
GLHF |

Erotica 1
Krypteia Operations
956
|
Posted - 2013.07.11 18:09:00 -
[227] - Quote
Bladerunner Darkborn wrote:As you know you scammed me just last night. I provided you with wallet pics as you asked in this very thread, yet you still could not admit it. You claimed a lack of literacy, you claimed your journal was bugged, you even claimed the now typical "my wallet was spammed" excuse. You admitted that I played the "game" correctly. 50 million (investment 1), 500 million (investment 2) and then 3 Billion (investment 3). If anyone is curious that is the answer, no other amounts allowed or they will be considered "donations". When I asked why you did not return the ISK you made one excuse after another. From needing a cigarette to your wallet being spammed to your inability to read your journal. So enjoy the pics again..... Investments 1 and 2 http://imgur.com/zg9zjuXInvestment 3 http://imgur.com/9Hs6afcSo if you are legit prove it. But you aren't so just man up and say you aren't. Funniest thing about scammers is that they lack the balls to admit they are scammers. GLHF
Pretty much a copy and paste job of the evemail you sent me, that is if I can read beyond the part where you brag about putting ********* aficionados behind bars as part of your job, which as I pointed out is a very unproductive use of our taxpayer dollars and not very productive for our society. ********* should be legal, period. Stop hating people whose lifestyles you disagree with.
I have showed these pictures to a few friends and they all question the pictures you have linked.
Everyone knows I'm legit. It is up to you now to prove that you are legit, friend.
edit: apparently my post was censored for the word choice of a leafy plant that some enjoy smoking. See Bio for isk doubling rules. -áIf you didn't read bio, chances are you helped fund those who did. |

NotTheSmartestCookie
NEW ORDER DEATH DEALERS CODE.
13
|
Posted - 2013.07.11 21:46:00 -
[228] - Quote
Bladerunner Darkborn wrote:
Look ma, I downloaded Photoshop and are making fakes!
Next time at least do a bit more of your homework and include screenshots of the conversation.
|

Boom Boom Longtime
EVE Corporation 6908469858
437
|
Posted - 2013.07.12 11:29:00 -
[229] - Quote
Quite frankly those of you still crying wolf should hold your heads in shame.
Even resorting to falsifying evidence, which is a disgrace given somebody is just trying to give back to the community.
Erotica is legit, and it's scandalous to suggest otherwise. GÖÑ Rain6636 |

StonerPhReaK
Ashfell Celestial Equilibrium POD-SQUAD
108
|
Posted - 2013.07.13 12:31:00 -
[230] - Quote
The only thing i have ever given Erotica is madd props for keepin this goin as long as it has. She has paid back double what i put in just in this topic alone. Though it has no isk value, I would say this service is working as intended and would use it again.
Keep up the good fite Erotica Won... I mean 1. -) Signature Removal in Progress, Estimated time of completion? Neva |

Joan Greywind
Temnava Legion No Holes Barred
52
|
Posted - 2013.07.15 04:28:00 -
[231] - Quote
Bladerunner Darkborn wrote:As you know you scammed me just last night. I provided you with wallet pics as you asked in this very thread, yet you still could not admit it. You claimed a lack of literacy, you claimed your journal was bugged, you even claimed the now typical "my wallet was spammed" excuse. You admitted that I played the "game" correctly. 50 million (investment 1), 500 million (investment 2) and then 3 Billion (investment 3). If anyone is curious that is the answer, no other amounts allowed or they will be considered "donations". When I asked why you did not return the ISK you made one excuse after another. From needing a cigarette to your wallet being spammed to your inability to read your journal. So enjoy the pics again..... Investments 1 and 2 http://imgur.com/zg9zjuXInvestment 3 http://imgur.com/9Hs6afcSo if you are legit prove it. But you aren't so just man up and say you aren't. Funniest thing about scammers is that they lack the balls to admit they are scammers. GLHF
You obviously messed up, and lost at the game, where you failed to read the rules correctly. People that lose call out scam, because people don't like to admit that they are stupid. you even have screenshots where she actually doubled your iskies twice, what kind of scammer will give you money?? At the end of the day all these people coming here saying that erotica paid them, are they all alts? hundreds of posts supporting her and a few saying that she is a scammer. Just remember you can lose if you read the rules incorrectly.
Thank you erotica for making me a little richer, and I promise I won't milk you for all you've got . |

Callathar Tivianne
Unseen Academy The Unseen Company
1
|
Posted - 2013.07.15 11:18:00 -
[232] - Quote
Erotica 1 wrote:Pretty much a copy and paste job of the evemail you sent me, that is if I can read beyond the part where you brag about putting ********* aficionados behind bars as part of your job, which as I pointed out is a very unproductive use of our taxpayer dollars and not very productive for our society. ********* should be legal, period. Stop hating people whose lifestyles you disagree with.
I have shown these pictures to a few friends and they all question the pictures you have linked.
Everyone knows I'm legit. It is up to you now to prove that you are legit, friend.
edit: apparently my post was censored for the word choice of a leafy plant that some enjoy smoking. god damn, you have a lot of alts :o you must be making fortune of loosers that are foolish enough to fall into this oh so obvious scam :D ps:no, youre not legit ;) youre just using tactic: If they catch your hand while stealing, pretend it's not your hand ;) |

Sabriz Adoudel
Paragon Blitz
527
|
Posted - 2013.07.16 00:51:00 -
[233] - Quote
Callathar Tivianne wrote:Erotica 1 wrote:Pretty much a copy and paste job of the evemail you sent me, that is if I can read beyond the part where you brag about putting ********* aficionados behind bars as part of your job, which as I pointed out is a very unproductive use of our taxpayer dollars and not very productive for our society. ********* should be legal, period. Stop hating people whose lifestyles you disagree with.
I have shown these pictures to a few friends and they all question the pictures you have linked.
Everyone knows I'm legit. It is up to you now to prove that you are legit, friend.
edit: apparently my post was censored for the word choice of a leafy plant that some enjoy smoking. god damn, you have a lot of alts :o you must be making fortune of loosers that are foolish enough to fall into this oh so obvious scam :D ps:no, youre not legit ;) youre just using tactic: If they catch your hand while stealing, pretend it's not your hand ;)
Erotica 1 does indeed have a lot of alts. I know her character naming system and can confirm that NONE of them have posted in this thread.
An enemy is just a friend that you stab in the front. |

Faith Codd
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
0
|
Posted - 2013.07.16 13:11:00 -
[234] - Quote
Hi - I'm really upset that Erotica 1 is getting so much flak that they feel they need to setup this thread. I'm a new player and had just made my way to Jita and was excited but my ship got ganked or something else went wrong (cause I don't have a kill mail) on the gate at Perimeter or near Perimeter and I lost my stuff.
Erotica 1 enabled me to get back in the game. I had to buy a Plex and get some money to get going again but it wasn't enough. But thanks to Erotica 1 I now have enough to start enjoying EvE once more.
I've learn't to be more careful traveling around, etc - but Erotica 1 has made the lesson a lot less painful in the long run. Thank you soo much!
EvE is a harsh world. But it's nice to know there are good people Like Erotica 1 around. A real good samaritan. Thanks. o/ |

disillusional
Big Red Wardec Co Petition Blizzard
27
|
Posted - 2013.07.18 12:30:00 -
[235] - Quote
Faith Codd wrote:Hi - I'm really upset that Erotica 1 is getting so much flak that they feel they need to setup this thread. I'm a new player and had just made my way to Jita and was excited but my ship got ganked or something else went wrong (cause I don't have a kill mail) on the gate at Perimeter or near Perimeter and I lost my stuff.
Erotica 1 enabled me to get back in the game. I had to buy a Plex and get some money to get going again but it wasn't enough. But thanks to Erotica 1 I now have enough to start enjoying EvE once more.
I've learn't to be more careful traveling around, etc - but Erotica 1 has made the lesson a lot less painful in the long run. Thank you soo much!
EvE is a harsh world. But it's nice to know there are good people Like Erotica 1 around. A real good samaritan. Thanks. o/
Erotica 1 is definitely the most legit ISK doubler in the EVE Universe, If people can't read the rules they should have their heads checked before coming onto the forums to spew more of their inane, pathetic hatred towards this HERO of the community. |

Cyndi Lovecrest
EVE Corporation 6908469858
0
|
Posted - 2013.07.22 13:59:00 -
[236] - Quote
I only started playing Eve a few days ago and I saw Erotica advertising her deal so I decided to play.
So glad I did as I made a few billion from what little I started with and I was even invited to the bonus room where I made even more free isk.
This game is great !!! |

Iamien
Krypteia Operations Self Sabatoge
240
|
Posted - 2013.07.26 23:49:00 -
[237] - Quote
Was suspicious at first. Threw her 200 mill, got 400 mil back. Gave her 800 mil, got 2.4bil back. Gave her 4.8bil, and got 24 bil back.
Talked with her after and decided to help him with running the bonus rooms he told me about, though I unfortunately did not to have my own. |

Malkor Hinken
Borg Mining Collective Unimatrix 01
0
|
Posted - 2013.07.27 01:06:00 -
[238] - Quote
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Darth Malguss
Perkone Caldari State
0
|
Posted - 2013.07.29 06:20:00 -
[239] - Quote
Erotica 1 wrote: WARNING
After being trolled countless times in local chat; After being threatened numerous time with slanderous forum posts and seeing nothing at all....
I have decided to create a place that such awful accusations can be made more easily- here!
I am a firm believer that it a troll does not have pictures, then it did not happen.
After all, I trust my fellow capsuleers, my peers, to vet any of these awful allegations.
So please, PLEASE, if you have PROOF that I have stolen funds from you, please post your wallet pics here.
Please keep in mind that chat logs are not allowed per the rules (I'm still looking out for you, despite the ill language towards me.)
Of course, if you have received all that was promised, I encourage you to post that as well.
Let's let the COMMUNITY decide the truth!
......................................................................................................................................
BACKSTORY
For those of you that are confused, let me provide a little bit of a backstory.
I never knew about or tried the isk doublers myself until I had around 1 billion isk in my wallet. I found that there were 2 types:
1. scammers. These people would promise to double your isk but never send a single isk back. Shameful!
2. Smart Scammers- these scammers would double small amounts like 1 or 2 million isk, and never double the higher amounts.
I decided there must be a better way- a way to allow people to gamble, but in a way that would be fair and honest. I started the first truly honest isk double service. I was very aware that it might not work, but I had to try anyway. It was a success! People just have to read the rules in my bio and they get paid out. Believe it or not, there are lots of people who glance at the rules quickly, or don't look at all. Many of those send ineligible amounts. I won't go into TOO much detail, you will just have to read the rules and see if YOU can figure it out.
... I had been broke for so long before that. I would always plateau at around 10-25m isk and spend it all, then lose it all with my fail fits. I got a gift of 400m isk and played the market up to 1 billion. Even then, I plateaued until I started my business.
Now I am living the good life, making lots of isk from "slow" players, or those challenged by the English language, and distributing much of it to the smart players like you! The best part is there is so much "dumb isk" that you and I both profit!
CONCLUSION
For my loyal clients, please post proof, or at least support for me!
For the TROLLS, please post PROOF that I have scammed you or IT DIDN'T HAPPEN
I do not need to post proof. I had been wanting to stop playing the game anyways and you people gave me a reason to end it sooner. Karma knows! Thats all the proof I need. You know who you are and what you have done after I have shown good faith in everything and only dove into your scam because I really did not have anything to lose. Karma is a ***** and it will always catch up to you. No proof needed for that. You all know who you are and what you did. So I can sit with a smile knowing that it IS coming.. your time WILL come when you will have to answer for preying on the naive new players. Karma always wins. I wish you all the best of luck
|

Sabriz Adoudel
Paragon Blitz
572
|
Posted - 2013.07.29 06:29:00 -
[240] - Quote
Darth Malguss wrote:
I do not need to post proof. I had been wanting to stop playing the game anyways and you people gave me a reason to end it sooner. Karma knows! Thats all the proof I need. You know who you are and what you have done after I have shown good faith in everything and only dove into your scam because I really did not have anything to lose. Karma is a ***** and it will always catch up to you. No proof needed for that. You all know who you are and what you did. So I can sit with a smile knowing that it IS coming.. your time WILL come when you will have to answer for preying on the naive new players. Karma always wins. I wish you all the best of luck
It's not 'preying on the naive new players'.
It's preying on PEOPLE THAT CAN'T READ INSTRUCTIONS.
EVE is not the sort of world where you get warning labels saying 'Caution: Coffee is hot and may cause severe burns'.
Consider it a lesson learned, and be glad that your errors in playing Erotica 1's game to the letter of the rules were in internet spaceship land, and not on an RL contract where it could cost you thousands.
But thank you for funding this service for other players.
An enemy is just a friend that you stab in the front. |

Mike Adoulin
Trans-Aerospace Industries
278
|
Posted - 2013.07.29 06:47:00 -
[241] - Quote
Darth Malguss wrote:rabblerabbleRAAAAAAAAGGGGGGGEEEEErabblerabble
So if you were going to quit anyway why are you so mad, bro?
You gave your stuffs to a worthy cause, and soon someone capable of reading instructions properly will have your ISK.
Good luck in your new hobby, I hear Star Trek Online has really emergent gameplay.
 |

Erotica 1
Krypteia Operations Self Sabatoge
1057
|
Posted - 2013.07.29 11:36:00 -
[242] - Quote
Mike Adoulin wrote:Darth Malguss wrote:rabblerabbleRAAAAAAAAGGGGGGGEEEEErabblerabble So if you were going to quit anyway why are you so mad, bro? You gave your stuffs to a worthy cause, and soon someone capable of reading instructions properly will have your ISK. Good luck in your new hobby, I hear Star Trek Online has really emergent gameplay. 
This guy actually snapped at me in teamspeak, he was so mad at himself for failing, yet taking it out on me. It's not every day that I hear absolute rage in comms, but today was one of those days. I couldn't help but to hysterically laugh. I mean, I'm sorry that he lost, but c'mon... rules are rules. See Bio for isk doubling rules. -áIf you didn't read bio, chances are you helped fund those who did. |

Llawa
The Pigpen
0
|
Posted - 2013.07.29 17:33:00 -
[243] - Quote
Sent ISK, got double the ISK back.
It's really not that tricky |

Mike Adoulin
Trans-Aerospace Industries
284
|
Posted - 2013.07.29 22:36:00 -
[244] - Quote
Erotica 1 wrote:This guy actually snapped at me in teamspeak, he was so mad at himself for failing, yet taking it out on me. It's not every day that I hear absolute rage in comms, but today was one of those days. I couldn't help but to hysterically laugh. I mean, I'm sorry that he lost, but c'mon... rules are rules.
Please tell me you have a link to the chat..:) |

Callathar Tivianne
LoneStar Ltd.
6
|
Posted - 2013.07.30 01:44:00 -
[245] - Quote
Erotica 1 wrote: Everyone knows I'm legit. It is up to you now to prove that you are legit, friend.
i lol'ed... oh god, i can't stop laughing :D you're pure and simple scammer my friend, a good one, with hordes of alts and paid 'fans' to praise you in this topic... which serves one purpose-to bait any1 who is stupid enough to believe it's NOt a scam, or want to do 'investigation'. HF, cause if any1 is stupid enough to fall into your oh so obvious scam, wont get any sympathy from me :) btw, there's actually at least one scammer in Dodi who admited in local that he is in fact scammer (that guy who want to buy elite drone AI's for some huuuge amount of isk),. it didn't had any negative impact on his 'bussines' ... i guess morons are numerous in this game :P |

Sabriz Adoudel
Paragon Blitz
576
|
Posted - 2013.07.30 03:31:00 -
[246] - Quote
Callathar Tivianne wrote:Erotica 1 wrote: Everyone knows I'm legit. It is up to you now to prove that you are legit, friend.
i lol'ed... oh god, i can't stop laughing :D you're pure and simple scammer my friend, a good one, with hordes of alts and paid 'fans' to praise you in this topic... which serves one purpose-to bait any1 who is stupid enough to believe it's NOt a scam, or want to do 'investigation'. HF, cause if any1 is stupid enough to fall into your oh so obvious scam, wont get any sympathy from me :) btw, there's actually at least one scammer in Dodi who admited in local that he is in fact scammer (that guy who want to buy elite drone AI's for some huuuge amount of isk),. it didn't had any negative impact on his 'bussines' ... i guess morons are numerous in this game :P
Why is it that you believe that deception is essential to getting lots of ISK out of stupid people?
Look at SOMER Blink. No deception involved at all, the lottery is 100% 'legit', and yet it's probably the most successful business in EVE Online, and every cent of its profits comes from suckers.
No different to Erotica.
Neither uses deception - both set out rules, and pay out according to them. SOMER takes a 5-10% cut from everyone, Erotica takes a 100% cut from idiots. But like asteroids, idiots and gamblers are renewable resources in EVE.
An enemy is just a friend that you stab in the front. |

Erotica 1
Krypteia Operations Self Sabatoge
1058
|
Posted - 2013.07.30 17:43:00 -
[247] - Quote
Mike Adoulin wrote:Erotica 1 wrote:This guy actually snapped at me in teamspeak, he was so mad at himself for failing, yet taking it out on me. It's not every day that I hear absolute rage in comms, but today was one of those days. I couldn't help but to hysterically laugh. I mean, I'm sorry that he lost, but c'mon... rules are rules. Please tell me you have a link to the chat..:)
Like all bonus round events whether they win or lose, the teamspeak session was recorded. I'll look around for the soundcloud link. We're getting pretty close to the next 100th here soon. I'll probably login later tonight, around 9pm eastern or so. Who knows, we may have a big winner tonight if we get a 100th who goes all the way. See Bio for isk doubling rules. -áIf you didn't read bio, chances are you helped fund those who did. |

Lady Naween
Immortalis Inc. Shadow Cartel
168
|
Posted - 2013.07.31 01:23:00 -
[248] - Quote
This is what is wrong with EVE.
Really!!
It is disgusting how people try and blame others for their own inability to read simple rules. Erotica 1 is legit, much like many other EVE businesses .. blink was mentioned... of course there has to be rules that make it possible to fail.. or Eorica would go broke instantly.. and then no one but a tiny handful would win.
Like with Everything in EVE. read up on what you are about to do and your chances skyrocket, just jump at something blindly and well.. you get burned. So Eroticas service is 100% legit and 100% in line with the kind of EVE we all want. I have nothing against scams, they are in fact quite amusing but when you do something that is legit .. better then the scammers.. then hats off!
And my hat is all the way off.
People that cant read cry.. so what else is new in EVE? Are we to call people that tank for sansha and go do an angel mission victims too? Did they get scammed by CCP? Nope, they where just idiots that can't read.
Same thing here. |

Comor Dunathis
Ex Alis Angeli
0
|
Posted - 2013.07.31 03:57:00 -
[249] - Quote
Just like to toss in my several billion isk here. To all you naysayers, I won a billion isk playing the 500m level.
Have fun, I'll be spending it on minerganking. |
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ISD Ezwal
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
362

|
Posted - 2013.08.01 17:53:00 -
[250] - Quote
I have removed some posts containing chatlogs and those quoting them.
33. Posting of chat logs outside the Crime & Punishment forum channel is prohibited.
The posting of chat logs between player parties is prohibited on all forum channels of the EVE Online forums, with the exception of the Crime & Punishment Channel where they can be posted as part of stories in the Pirate Story Thread.
Specific rules regarding the omission of pilot names apply in this instance. Further details can be found in the rules stickies in the Crime & Punishment forum channel. ISD Ezwal Lt. Commander Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department |
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Leto Thule
Sons of Retribution
0
|
Posted - 2013.08.01 18:20:00 -
[251] - Quote
Comor Dunathis wrote:Just like to toss in my several billion isk here. To all you naysayers, I won a billion isk playing the 500m level.
Have fun, I'll be spending it on minerganking.
Only EPIC pvp'ers are able to gank miners. |

Erotica 1
Krypteia Operations Self Sabatoge
1077
|
Posted - 2013.08.01 18:51:00 -
[252] - Quote
ISD Ezwal wrote:I have removed some posts containing chatlogs and those quoting them. 33. Posting of chat logs outside the Crime & Punishment forum channel is prohibited.
The posting of chat logs between player parties is prohibited on all forum channels of the EVE Online forums, with the exception of the Crime & Punishment Channel where they can be posted as part of stories in the Pirate Story Thread.
Specific rules regarding the omission of pilot names apply in this instance. Further details can be found in the rules stickies in the Crime & Punishment forum channel.
Thanks for keeping it clean in here. I warned some of those guys myself just as a heads up that they could only do that stuff in pirate stories, but some people just don't read rules.
xoxo See Bio for isk doubling rules. -áIf you didn't read bio, chances are you helped fund those who did. |

Snip King
No Honor'No Mercy TAXU
2
|
Posted - 2013.08.04 05:44:00 -
[253] - Quote
Got this off from my spy char. You are really good at this :)
Erotica 1's Scam! From: xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: 2013.08.04 02:41 To: Brave Newbies Inc.,
I just wanted to warn everyone about Erotica 1. If you don't already know, he is the worst scammer in EVE, don't even make contact with him. I didn't know and yesterday I lost 600mil isk, and over 900mil isk in assets to his scam. Everything single thing I owned. I am now on the verge of quiting EVE forever, I'm just putting it out there so that no one makes the same mistake I did. |

Sabriz Adoudel
Paragon Blitz
605
|
Posted - 2013.08.04 09:25:00 -
[254] - Quote
ISD Ezwal wrote:I have removed some posts containing chatlogs and those quoting them. 33. Posting of chat logs outside the Crime & Punishment forum channel is prohibited.
The posting of chat logs between player parties is prohibited on all forum channels of the EVE Online forums, with the exception of the Crime & Punishment Channel where they can be posted as part of stories in the Pirate Story Thread.
Specific rules regarding the omission of pilot names apply in this instance. Further details can be found in the rules stickies in the Crime & Punishment forum channel.
What are the rules on the posting of forged chatlogs (i.e. all these posts that have 'conversations' in them that never happened or have been edited) by people that aim to slander the OP?
I believe the rule you quoted would only apply to an actual chatlog, which we have not seen in this thread.
An enemy is just a friend that you stab in the front. |

Tachibane Kanade
The Scope Gallente Federation
14
|
Posted - 2013.08.04 11:48:00 -
[255] - Quote
More people reporting a scam then that your a valid person Erotica... whats up? you lost track of your win/scam ratio? Get some more alts and other players who you didnt scam to post here you didnt scam them...
hahaha still most enjoyable topic on the forums. |

Soulweave
Golden Goat Entertainment Mordus Angels
1
|
Posted - 2013.08.15 17:24:00 -
[256] - Quote
was the 100th customer without expecting. gambled and excited for the prize.
There were a series of trials but if you trust, everything will be fine. |

Erotica 1
Krypteia Operations Self Sabatoge
1176
|
Posted - 2013.08.15 17:26:00 -
[257] - Quote
Soulweave wrote:was the 100th customer without expecting. gambled and excited for the prize.
There were a series of trials but if you trust, everything will be fine.
Another winner about to be paid, just a slight interruption for client heading to Mcdonald's with family, but I can sense another big winner soon! See Bio for isk doubling rules. -áIf you didn't read bio, chances are you helped fund those who did. |

BadAssMcKill
Love Squad Confederation of xXPIZZAXx
325
|
Posted - 2013.08.15 17:36:00 -
[258] - Quote
McDonalds gross http://i.imgur.com/6j6cIZE.gif-á |

Marmaduke Hatplate
Abercrombie and Smith
39
|
Posted - 2013.08.16 13:41:00 -
[259] - Quote
Confirming that Erotica's ISK doubling service paid out big for me!
I sent her a convo and asked her if I could try to convert my ISK into a big payout via her system. She agreed and we started. I had worked out a way to play following her rules as described in her bio. I transferred 50mil and she immediately sent me back 100mil. My plan was then to send 1bill, which would have turned into 3bil, and then my third investment would have netted me megabucks! Sadly, the missus then intervened. She's a bit leery of possible scams, and even though it was 'so far, so good', she chewed my ear off and I was forced to quit at that stage or lose bedroom rights for at least a week. Fortunately, a week later I invested the 100mil in lottery tickets in a channel I sometimes lurk in, and i won just over a billion! i'm still a noob, so a bil is a lot for me!
So the outcome was favourable! Just goes to show, if you know what you're doing, dealing with Erotica can make you spacerich! "Friends and fun...The only 2 really important things in EVE Online." - Crazy Dutch Guy |

Boom Boom Longtime
EVE Corporation 6908469858 Heroes and Villains.
462
|
Posted - 2013.08.16 14:04:00 -
[260] - Quote
Soulweave wrote:It was a scam. I was scammed. I am to blame, no one else. I was there, I was there, it wasn't a scam, Soulweave is fabricating lies for some bizarre reason, i witnessed her payday with my very own eye and eyepiece. If I recall she "wooted" with joy when Erotica transferred the winnings. The rationale behind this discommodious transmogrification of accountability is quite frankly, astounding. Concord Approved Trader |

SKINE DMZ
YouView INC
106
|
Posted - 2013.08.16 15:15:00 -
[261] - Quote
I recently played a game, send over 300m, she said that her wallet was being isk spammed so I had to provide API and send another batch to proof that I was not trying to scam, so I sent over another 300m and got the full pay out, it's not hard to believe when so many people try to boycott this service that her wallet get spammed now again.
I disagree |

Dramielsky
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
0
|
Posted - 2013.08.17 04:06:00 -
[262] - Quote
I'm having mixed feelings about playing or not.
I will do a small 200m +/- for first trial to see how it goes.
Will get back here with my experience. |

Sabriz Adoudel
Oppan Ganknam Style
644
|
Posted - 2013.08.17 06:42:00 -
[263] - Quote
Dramielsky wrote:I'm having mixed feelings about playing or not.
I will do a small 200m +/- for first trial to see how it goes.
Will get back here with my experience.
I think you will end up happy and spacerich. Just reread the rules.
An enemy is just a friend that you stab in the front. |

Marlin Spikes
Mentally Assured Destruction
20
|
Posted - 2013.08.17 09:01:00 -
[264] - Quote
Erotica 1 is brilliant! You should expand your business, maybe start a franchise. After conducting intensive market research, I've concluded that the current demographics necessary for your continued operation has created a high demand for your services.
Keep at it! |

Don Purple
Snuggle Factory
67
|
Posted - 2013.08.17 09:03:00 -
[265] - Quote
Just read the rules, Erotica 1 is legit :).
Made me a nice little penny ever time I start a new account.  |

Babatunde B Babatunde
Babatunde Babatunde Babatunde
7
|
Posted - 2013.08.17 11:43:00 -
[266] - Quote
I can kindly confirm that this service is legit, therefore I endorse this product and / or service.
Thank you for the ISK Erotica, rest assured all of it will go towards my case against the New Order.
Truly Yours Babatunde B Babatunde
xox |

Unwanted Clone
New Eden Opportunity Shop
2
|
Posted - 2013.08.25 00:09:00 -
[267] - Quote
Being the CEO of a not-for-profit organisation I was a bit nervous using the isk my charity has earned from item donations in Erotica's doubling business.
I can happily report that the value of those generously donated items have just been doubled. Erotica, I thank you for your service on behalf of the poor, new and underprivileged capsuleers of New Eden. These extra funds will go a long way to helping those in need.
For anyone else who wishes to help the poor, our reach is far and wide so you can be assured your donations will go to those that need it most. New Eden Opportunity Shop - helping the poor prosper. |

Sabriz Adoudel
Compulsory Euthanasia
971
|
Posted - 2013.10.14 23:08:00 -
[268] - Quote
Welcome back Erotica 1! Missed you while you were gone, mate.
May enough of your clients fail at reading comprehension to fund your philanthropy. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=238931 - an idea for a new form of hybrid PVE/PVP content. The difference between an enemy and a friend is that you stab your enemies in the front. |

Axium Cog
Net 7 The Last Brigade
39
|
Posted - 2013.10.15 09:23:00 -
[269] - Quote
I just won Eve.
I was sitting in Jita 4-4, waiting on some PI buy orders to turn over. I stood to make 80m that day if all went well. Big money.
I inevitably got bored, and once I had blocked all the spammer and scammers, i absorbed some tears from a fresh scamming victim whining in local, then noticed a toon speaking in awe about Erotica 1.
I unblocked him to see what all the fuss was about. I read his rules, chatted him a bit. His game was refreshingly original, and well thought out, so i decided to risk 600m. If I lost it, he deserved it for having put so much effort into his scheme. if i won, well thats an easy 1.2b.
I sent the isk, and was promptly invited to a group chat, where like so many banner adds i was greeted with:
"Congratulations!! You're the 100th client, you win a bonus round. 5x payout if you make it to the end."
My initial reaction was to find the X, but went against my better judgement, and decided to play.
I was told I had to give complete trust to this stranger who was probably a scammer. I had to empty my wallet and LP. I had to contract all my assets. My Special Edition Gifts from CCP, a 30 PLEX i had for a rainy day. Everything.
Complete trust.
I then had to empty my next toon and the next, even turning over their tax dodge corporations.
I even had to strip all my vanity items from my toon. Anything that could be liquidated.
I was then told to repeated undock in my sole posession: my pod, accept a duel, which i would lose, while singing songs on TS3 like "I Kissed a Girl - Katy Perry" "Ring of Fire - Johnny Cash" "Nothing Else Matters - Metallica" "Zombie - Cranberries" "Oops I Did It Again - Brittany Spears" and countless others.
I couldnt even keep my dignity as a shower singer.
I then had to read about St Olga of Kiev, who Erotica 1 has been compared to in the past. I had to read minerbumping.com, where i got a lump in my throat that James 315, who was so greatly admired by the people who now hold everything i have worked to achieve in 4 years, was an old nemisis i went up against years ago. I had to read his code, faqs, and about from his page, alloud while recorded on TS3.
I even was reminded about a famous corp theft from my now mothballed alliance from years ago(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wVZLsDxemA0).
Now i stand to either lose everything, or gain ~25b worth of assets and isk.
Fingers Crossed. |

Sabriz Adoudel
Compulsory Euthanasia
973
|
Posted - 2013.10.15 10:08:00 -
[270] - Quote
Axium Cog wrote:I just won Eve.
I was sitting in Jita 4-4, waiting on some PI buy orders to turn over. I stood to make 80m that day if all went well. Big money.
I inevitably got bored, and once I had blocked all the spammer and scammers, i absorbed some tears from a fresh scamming victim whining in local, then noticed a toon speaking in awe about Erotica 1.
I unblocked him to see what all the fuss was about. I read his rules, chatted him a bit. His game was refreshingly original, and well thought out, so i decided to risk 600m. If I lost it, he deserved it for having put so much effort into his scheme. if i won, well thats an easy 1.2b.
I sent the isk, and was promptly invited to a group chat, where like so many banner adds i was greeted with:
"Congratulations!! You're the 100th client, you win a bonus round. 5x payout if you make it to the end."
My initial reaction was to find the X, but went against my better judgement, and decided to play.
I was told I had to give complete trust to this stranger who was probably a scammer. I had to empty my wallet and LP. I had to contract all my assets. My Special Edition Gifts from CCP, a 30 PLEX i had for a rainy day. Everything.
Complete trust.
I then had to empty my next toon and the next, even turning over their tax dodge corporations.
I even had to strip all my vanity items from my toon. Anything that could be liquidated.
I was then told to repeated undock in my sole posession: my pod, accept a duel, which i would lose, while singing songs on TS3 like "I Kissed a Girl - Katy Perry" "Ring of Fire - Johnny Cash" "Nothing Else Matters - Metallica" "Zombie - Cranberries" "Oops I Did It Again - Brittany Spears" and countless others.
I couldnt even keep my dignity as a shower singer.
I then had to read about St Olga of Kiev, who Erotica 1 has been compared to in the past. I had to read minerbumping.com, where i got a lump in my throat that James 315, who was so greatly admired by the people who now hold everything i have worked to achieve in 4 years, was an old nemisis i went up against years ago. I had to read his code, faqs, and about from his page, alloud while recorded on TS3.
I even was reminded about a famous corp theft from my now mothballed alliance from years ago(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wVZLsDxemA0).
Now i stand to either lose everything, or gain ~25b worth of assets and isk.
Fingers Crossed.
Good luck! Make sure to follow the rules exactly - the people that mess up fund the fun for everyone else.
Wishing you well, it's been a while since we had a big winner. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=238931 - an idea for a new form of hybrid PVE/PVP content. The difference between an enemy and a friend is that you stab your enemies in the front. |

Axium Cog
Net 7 The Last Brigade
42
|
Posted - 2013.10.15 11:10:00 -
[271] - Quote
Sabriz Adoudel wrote:Axium Cog wrote:I just won Eve.
I was sitting in Jita 4-4, waiting on some PI buy orders to turn over. I stood to make 80m that day if all went well. Big money.
I inevitably got bored, and once I had blocked all the spammer and scammers, i absorbed some tears from a fresh scamming victim whining in local, then noticed a toon speaking in awe about Erotica 1.
I unblocked him to see what all the fuss was about. I read his rules, chatted him a bit. His game was refreshingly original, and well thought out, so i decided to risk 600m. If I lost it, he deserved it for having put so much effort into his scheme. if i won, well thats an easy 1.2b.
I sent the isk, and was promptly invited to a group chat, where like so many banner adds i was greeted with:
"Congratulations!! You're the 100th client, you win a bonus round. 5x payout if you make it to the end."
My initial reaction was to find the X, but went against my better judgement, and decided to play.
I was told I had to give complete trust to this stranger who was probably a scammer. I had to empty my wallet and LP. I had to contract all my assets. My Special Edition Gifts from CCP, a 30 PLEX i had for a rainy day. Everything.
Complete trust.
I then had to empty my next toon and the next, even turning over their tax dodge corporations.
I even had to strip all my vanity items from my toon. Anything that could be liquidated.
I was then told to repeated undock in my sole posession: my pod, accept a duel, which i would lose, while singing songs on TS3 like "I Kissed a Girl - Katy Perry" "Ring of Fire - Johnny Cash" "Nothing Else Matters - Metallica" "Zombie - Cranberries" "Oops I Did It Again - Brittany Spears" and countless others.
I couldnt even keep my dignity as a shower singer.
I then had to read about St Olga of Kiev, who Erotica 1 has been compared to in the past. I had to read minerbumping.com, where i got a lump in my throat that James 315, who was so greatly admired by the people who now hold everything i have worked to achieve in 4 years, was an old nemisis i went up against years ago. I had to read his code, faqs, and about from his page, alloud while recorded on TS3.
I even was reminded about a famous corp theft from my now mothballed alliance from years ago(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wVZLsDxemA0).
Now i stand to either lose everything, or gain ~25b worth of assets and isk.
Fingers Crossed. Good luck! Make sure to follow the rules exactly - the people that mess up fund the fun for everyone else. Wishing you well, it's been a while since we had a big winner.
I had a ship that belonged to a friend that died overseas. I didnt want to give it up, so they made me come up with the isk. I dont have friends in eve anymore apparently. I resorted to chribba who agreed to hold it for me till i could pay him back the 200 mil it was worth. Then they hit me with a random "Red Pen" violation worth 30mil because god forbid i attempt to duel James 315. Chribba had understandably hit his limit on scam bleeding. One nice fella who would be a victim tried to raise the 30 mil, but only managed 8. As downtime approached i broke down. I realized the one stable source of fun for the last 4 years had finally come to an end. All of my friends i used to play with either no longer play or died overseas. I no longer have the assets to play on my own. Games over. I lose. I lost everything. The only item i have is my friend Maelstrom that was purchased back by the only person with a soul who knew what was going on. I gave the nice guy his 8 mil back. I put away my friends maelstrom. Im done. Eve is no longer fun for me. Dont play his game. |

beancounter Jaynara
Wildly Inappropriate Goonswarm Federation
41
|
Posted - 2013.10.15 11:21:00 -
[272] - Quote
Axium Cog wrote:Sabriz Adoudel wrote:Axium Cog wrote:I just won Eve.
I was sitting in Jita 4-4, waiting on some PI buy orders to turn over. I stood to make 80m that day if all went well. Big money.
I inevitably got bored, and once I had blocked all the spammer and scammers, i absorbed some tears from a fresh scamming victim whining in local, then noticed a toon speaking in awe about Erotica 1.
I unblocked him to see what all the fuss was about. I read his rules, chatted him a bit. His game was refreshingly original, and well thought out, so i decided to risk 600m. If I lost it, he deserved it for having put so much effort into his scheme. if i won, well thats an easy 1.2b.
I sent the isk, and was promptly invited to a group chat, where like so many banner adds i was greeted with:
"Congratulations!! You're the 100th client, you win a bonus round. 5x payout if you make it to the end."
My initial reaction was to find the X, but went against my better judgement, and decided to play.
I was told I had to give complete trust to this stranger who was probably a scammer. I had to empty my wallet and LP. I had to contract all my assets. My Special Edition Gifts from CCP, a 30 PLEX i had for a rainy day. Everything.
Complete trust.
I then had to empty my next toon and the next, even turning over their tax dodge corporations.
I even had to strip all my vanity items from my toon. Anything that could be liquidated.
I was then told to repeated undock in my sole posession: my pod, accept a duel, which i would lose, while singing songs on TS3 like "I Kissed a Girl - Katy Perry" "Ring of Fire - Johnny Cash" "Nothing Else Matters - Metallica" "Zombie - Cranberries" "Oops I Did It Again - Brittany Spears" and countless others.
I couldnt even keep my dignity as a shower singer.
I then had to read about St Olga of Kiev, who Erotica 1 has been compared to in the past. I had to read minerbumping.com, where i got a lump in my throat that James 315, who was so greatly admired by the people who now hold everything i have worked to achieve in 4 years, was an old nemisis i went up against years ago. I had to read his code, faqs, and about from his page, alloud while recorded on TS3.
I even was reminded about a famous corp theft from my now mothballed alliance from years ago(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wVZLsDxemA0).
Now i stand to either lose everything, or gain ~25b worth of assets and isk.
Fingers Crossed. Good luck! Make sure to follow the rules exactly - the people that mess up fund the fun for everyone else. Wishing you well, it's been a while since we had a big winner. I had a ship that belonged to a friend that died overseas. I didnt want to give it up, so they made me come up with the isk. I dont have friends in eve anymore apparently. I resorted to chribba who agreed to hold it for me till i could pay him back the 200 mil it was worth. Then they hit me with a random "Red Pen" violation worth 30mil because god forbid i attempt to duel James 315. Chribba had understandably hit his limit on scam bleeding. One nice fella who would be a victim tried to raise the 30 mil, but only managed 8. As downtime approached i broke down. I realized the one stable source of fun for the last 4 years had finally come to an end. All of my friends i used to play with either no longer play or died overseas. I no longer have the assets to play on my own. Games over. I lose. I lost everything. The only item i have is my friend Maelstrom that was purchased back by the only person with a soul who knew what was going on. I gave the nice guy his 8 mil back. I put away my friends maelstrom. Im done. Eve is no longer fun for me. Dont play his game.
On behalf of Goonswarm Federation, I offered to get his Maelstrom back from Chribba's pawnshop with my own isk but I was too late. Another anonymous player had already done this for him. I asked him what about of isk would keep him in the game, but he didn't want isk. He just wanted some trinkets CCP has gifted players over the years such as a fireworks launcher or some things like that. Don't know what else to do. Oh well. |

Axium Cog
Net 7 The Last Brigade
43
|
Posted - 2013.10.15 11:38:00 -
[273] - Quote
beancounter Jaynara wrote:Axium Cog wrote:Sabriz Adoudel wrote:Axium Cog wrote:I just won Eve.
I was sitting in Jita 4-4, waiting on some PI buy orders to turn over. I stood to make 80m that day if all went well. Big money.
I inevitably got bored, and once I had blocked all the spammer and scammers, i absorbed some tears from a fresh scamming victim whining in local, then noticed a toon speaking in awe about Erotica 1.
I unblocked him to see what all the fuss was about. I read his rules, chatted him a bit. His game was refreshingly original, and well thought out, so i decided to risk 600m. If I lost it, he deserved it for having put so much effort into his scheme. if i won, well thats an easy 1.2b.
I sent the isk, and was promptly invited to a group chat, where like so many banner adds i was greeted with:
"Congratulations!! You're the 100th client, you win a bonus round. 5x payout if you make it to the end."
My initial reaction was to find the X, but went against my better judgement, and decided to play.
I was told I had to give complete trust to this stranger who was probably a scammer. I had to empty my wallet and LP. I had to contract all my assets. My Special Edition Gifts from CCP, a 30 PLEX i had for a rainy day. Everything.
Complete trust.
I then had to empty my next toon and the next, even turning over their tax dodge corporations.
I even had to strip all my vanity items from my toon. Anything that could be liquidated.
I was then told to repeated undock in my sole posession: my pod, accept a duel, which i would lose, while singing songs on TS3 like "I Kissed a Girl - Katy Perry" "Ring of Fire - Johnny Cash" "Nothing Else Matters - Metallica" "Zombie - Cranberries" "Oops I Did It Again - Brittany Spears" and countless others.
I couldnt even keep my dignity as a shower singer.
I then had to read about St Olga of Kiev, who Erotica 1 has been compared to in the past. I had to read minerbumping.com, where i got a lump in my throat that James 315, who was so greatly admired by the people who now hold everything i have worked to achieve in 4 years, was an old nemisis i went up against years ago. I had to read his code, faqs, and about from his page, alloud while recorded on TS3.
I even was reminded about a famous corp theft from my now mothballed alliance from years ago(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wVZLsDxemA0).
Now i stand to either lose everything, or gain ~25b worth of assets and isk.
Fingers Crossed. Good luck! Make sure to follow the rules exactly - the people that mess up fund the fun for everyone else. Wishing you well, it's been a while since we had a big winner. I had a ship that belonged to a friend that died overseas. I didnt want to give it up, so they made me come up with the isk. I dont have friends in eve anymore apparently. I resorted to chribba who agreed to hold it for me till i could pay him back the 200 mil it was worth. Then they hit me with a random "Red Pen" violation worth 30mil because god forbid i attempt to duel James 315. Chribba had understandably hit his limit on scam bleeding. One nice fella who would be a victim tried to raise the 30 mil, but only managed 8. As downtime approached i broke down. I realized the one stable source of fun for the last 4 years had finally come to an end. All of my friends i used to play with either no longer play or died overseas. I no longer have the assets to play on my own. Games over. I lose. I lost everything. The only item i have is my friend Maelstrom that was purchased back by the only person with a soul who knew what was going on. I gave the nice guy his 8 mil back. I put away my friends maelstrom. Im done. Eve is no longer fun for me. Dont play his game. On behalf of Goonswarm Federation, I offered to get his Maelstrom back from Chribba's pawnshop with my own isk but I was too late. Another anonymous player had already done this for him. I asked him what about of isk would keep him in the game, but he didn't want isk. He just wanted some trinkets CCP has gifted players over the years such as a fireworks launcher or some things like that. Don't know what else to do. Oh well.
Fairly certain youre an Erotica alt, if not ignore the rest, if so take it to heart.
You dont get to say "Complete Faith" then when i follow every rule to the letter, and have nothing left to give, force me to be dependent on the faith of others as well. Thats when you cheated. |

Riot Girl
Krypteia Operations
1759
|
Posted - 2013.10.15 12:25:00 -
[274] - Quote
It's unfortunate that you were unable to pay your fine. Hopefully this will be a lesson to others about the importance of the code. Oh god. |

Leto Thule
Sons of Retribution
90
|
Posted - 2013.10.15 14:16:00 -
[275] - Quote
Wow...
1) This thread needs to return to the dark, deep, hellish depths of the C&P purgatory where it came from.
2) You REALLY contracted all your stuff / gave your entire wallet / all that other stuff? Lucky 100th customer indeed. |

Tenaris Zeratul
Dragon Build
11
|
Posted - 2013.10.15 19:02:00 -
[276] - Quote
beancounter Jaynara wrote:Axium Cog wrote:Sabriz Adoudel wrote:Axium Cog wrote:I just won Eve.
I was sitting in Jita 4-4, waiting on some PI buy orders to turn over. I stood to make 80m that day if all went well. Big money.
I inevitably got bored, and once I had blocked all the spammer and scammers, i absorbed some tears from a fresh scamming victim whining in local, then noticed a toon speaking in awe about Erotica 1.
I unblocked him to see what all the fuss was about. I read his rules, chatted him a bit. His game was refreshingly original, and well thought out, so i decided to risk 600m. If I lost it, he deserved it for having put so much effort into his scheme. if i won, well thats an easy 1.2b.
I sent the isk, and was promptly invited to a group chat, where like so many banner adds i was greeted with:
"Congratulations!! You're the 100th client, you win a bonus round. 5x payout if you make it to the end."
My initial reaction was to find the X, but went against my better judgement, and decided to play.
I was told I had to give complete trust to this stranger who was probably a scammer. I had to empty my wallet and LP. I had to contract all my assets. My Special Edition Gifts from CCP, a 30 PLEX i had for a rainy day. Everything.
Complete trust.
I then had to empty my next toon and the next, even turning over their tax dodge corporations.
I even had to strip all my vanity items from my toon. Anything that could be liquidated.
I was then told to repeated undock in my sole posession: my pod, accept a duel, which i would lose, while singing songs on TS3 like "I Kissed a Girl - Katy Perry" "Ring of Fire - Johnny Cash" "Nothing Else Matters - Metallica" "Zombie - Cranberries" "Oops I Did It Again - Brittany Spears" and countless others.
I couldnt even keep my dignity as a shower singer.
I then had to read about St Olga of Kiev, who Erotica 1 has been compared to in the past. I had to read minerbumping.com, where i got a lump in my throat that James 315, who was so greatly admired by the people who now hold everything i have worked to achieve in 4 years, was an old nemisis i went up against years ago. I had to read his code, faqs, and about from his page, alloud while recorded on TS3.
I even was reminded about a famous corp theft from my now mothballed alliance from years ago(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wVZLsDxemA0).
Now i stand to either lose everything, or gain ~25b worth of assets and isk.
Fingers Crossed. Good luck! Make sure to follow the rules exactly - the people that mess up fund the fun for everyone else. Wishing you well, it's been a while since we had a big winner. I had a ship that belonged to a friend that died overseas. I didnt want to give it up, so they made me come up with the isk. I dont have friends in eve anymore apparently. I resorted to chribba who agreed to hold it for me till i could pay him back the 200 mil it was worth. Then they hit me with a random "Red Pen" violation worth 30mil because god forbid i attempt to duel James 315. Chribba had understandably hit his limit on scam bleeding. One nice fella who would be a victim tried to raise the 30 mil, but only managed 8. As downtime approached i broke down. I realized the one stable source of fun for the last 4 years had finally come to an end. All of my friends i used to play with either no longer play or died overseas. I no longer have the assets to play on my own. Games over. I lose. I lost everything. The only item i have is my friend Maelstrom that was purchased back by the only person with a soul who knew what was going on. I gave the nice guy his 8 mil back. I put away my friends maelstrom. Im done. Eve is no longer fun for me. Dont play his game. On behalf of Goonswarm Federation, I offered to get his Maelstrom back from Chribba's pawnshop with my own isk but I was too late. Another anonymous player had already done this for him. I asked him what about of isk would keep him in the game, but he didn't want isk. He just wanted some trinkets CCP has gifted players over the years such as a fireworks launcher or some things like that. Don't know what else to do. Oh well.
I bought it back from Chribba with my own money, because we went way to damned far last night. Like I've been in the bonus rooms before, and helped Ero with these before, but eventually I have to draw a line. Wasn't it enough we podded him 27 god damned times?
http://zkillboard.com/character/1846919480/
Ero, professionals have standards. I like griefing as much as the next guy, but last night things got way to dark, and I stopped having fun. Maybe I should buy a Golem and run level 4s though, cause **** me for having a opinion and not following the herd, right? |

Culexus Sirian
The WHole Island of Misfit Toons
3
|
Posted - 2013.10.16 03:48:00 -
[277] - Quote
I will say I was in Jita 4-4 bored one day and was watching the local scam channel which we all call Jita. I saw Erotica 1 and was bored and decided to try him out and see what happens. I was very surprised when my ISK was actually doubled... twice. http://imgur.com/cyUSUJa I am not an ALT and YMMV but Erotica 1 did double my ISK. |

Sylphy
TSOE Po1ice TSOE Consortium
22
|
Posted - 2013.10.16 08:27:00 -
[278] - Quote
Culexus Sirian wrote:I will say I was in Jita 4-4 bored one day and was watching the local scam channel which we all call Jita. I saw Erotica 1 and was bored and decided to try him out and see what happens. I was very surprised when my ISK was actually doubled... twice. http://imgur.com/cyUSUJa I am not an ALT and YMMV but Erotica 1 did double my ISK.
Nice faked wallet. Especially since Erotica 1 has a profile which says she'll double any amount between 50-500mil, with each transaction being double of what you received in your previous transaction.
200mil x2 does not equal 500 mil.
GG fake. |

GrifterEx
Tieran Sovereignty
0
|
Posted - 2013.10.16 10:10:00 -
[279] - Quote
Sylphy wrote:Culexus Sirian wrote:I will say I was in Jita 4-4 bored one day and was watching the local scam channel which we all call Jita. I saw Erotica 1 and was bored and decided to try him out and see what happens. I was very surprised when my ISK was actually doubled... twice. http://imgur.com/cyUSUJa I am not an ALT and YMMV but Erotica 1 did double my ISK. Nice faked wallet. Especially since Erotica 1 has a profile which says she'll double any amount between 50-500mil, with each transaction being double of what you received in your previous transaction. 200mil x2 does not equal 500 mil. GG fake.
The rules are, and i quote," Each investment must be at least 2x what you received just prior." This is why you always have people slandering Erotica 1's name. You guys don't read the rules, or even listen to what you're being told to do. Its no wonder why people like the man a few posts up lose bonus rounds.
Such a shame really.
|

Sabriz Adoudel
Compulsory Euthanasia
984
|
Posted - 2013.10.16 21:08:00 -
[280] - Quote
Sylphy wrote:Culexus Sirian wrote:I will say I was in Jita 4-4 bored one day and was watching the local scam channel which we all call Jita. I saw Erotica 1 and was bored and decided to try him out and see what happens. I was very surprised when my ISK was actually doubled... twice. http://imgur.com/cyUSUJa I am not an ALT and YMMV but Erotica 1 did double my ISK. Nice faked wallet. Especially since Erotica 1 has a profile which says she'll double any amount between 50-500mil, with each transaction being double of what you received in your previous transaction. 200mil x2 does not equal 500 mil. GG fake.
Erotica reserves the right to give ISK out in amounts that exceed those stated by the game rules, it is one of her methods for getting ISK out of someone she identifies as unlikely to win the game.
They make a mistake, Ero pays them anyway, then they invest again and Ero keeps the rulebreaking payment. Helps fund the game for everyone else. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=238931 - an idea for a new form of hybrid PVE/PVP content. The difference between an enemy and a friend is that you stab your enemies in the front. |

Erotica 1
Krypteia Operations
1557
|
Posted - 2013.10.17 05:24:00 -
[281] - Quote
I imagined at least one person would have looked at the image. The person complaining about it appears to be colorblind or something. The client got his isk doubled twice in this picture. There was no extra amount. It was doubled.
As far as the sad tale mentioned just prior, I had trouble sleeping that night. It always affects me when a lucky player cannot make it through the bonus round with full faith. The curse of the red pen seems to live on. This client had tried to take out James 315 a year ago, even seeking out mercenary assistance. This put him on the red pen list, where a mining permit costs triple. All he had to do was remove himself from this list by paying for his permit.
Even Chribba would not help our player out. And so the client's fate was sealed. Karma came back to get him. Remember this lesson. See Bio for isk doubling rules. -áIf you didn't read bio, chances are you helped fund those who did. |

Leto Thule
Sons of Retribution
95
|
Posted - 2013.10.17 14:31:00 -
[282] - Quote
Erotica 1 wrote:I imagined at least one person would have looked at the image. The person complaining about it appears to be colorblind or something. The client got his isk doubled twice in this picture. There was no extra amount. It was doubled.
As far as the sad tale mentioned just prior, I had trouble sleeping that night. It always affects me when a lucky player cannot make it through the bonus round with full faith. The curse of the red pen seems to live on. This client had tried to take out James 315 a year ago, even seeking out mercenary assistance. This put him on the red pen list, where a mining permit costs triple. All he had to do was remove himself from this list by paying for his permit.
Even Chribba would not help our player out. And so the client's fate was sealed. Karma came back to get him. Remember this lesson.
Come on now. You lost sleep over it? I bet. Even your cronies are saying this was a bit too far....
BUT...
At the same time... You cant get mad at erotica when people are stupid enough to send all their ISK, assets... and be... podded... 27 times... lmfao... Hope it wasnt an alpha clone.
Bottom line is this is a gamble. Of course some are "winners" or everyone would know not to play it. Like any gamble, you have a chance of losing if you play. As for what happened to the guy who lost it all... every single ISK in eve isnt worth thr risk here m8. Money is easy to come by in this game... no reason to rush it and risk EVERYTHING on a few lucky "bonus rounds". |

Boom Boom Longtime
EVE Corporation 6908469858 Heroes and Villains.
522
|
Posted - 2013.10.17 16:28:00 -
[283] - Quote
If you cut through the mustard, get an easel and some paint, here is the picture.
When you walk through the doors of a casino you are consenting to the rules of the establishment.
If you gamble and put your chips down after the croupier says "no more bets please", then that bet is annulled even if your numbers would have come up.
Smart kids hedge their bets, play by the rules and subsequently prosper.
I've witnessed many a capsuleer self destruct by smugly covering red and black absent mitigating the possibility that the roulette ball will land in the number 0 pocket.
Several occasions now I have been shocked, saddened and had the misfortune of observing rambunctious, unsavoury and hostile behaviour characteristics exuded by pilots reacting to the realisation that "beans were burnt" due to their own inabilities to heed the cooking instructions on the back of the tin.
A sad state of affairs indeed  Concord Approved Trader |

Riot Girl
Krypteia Operations
1774
|
Posted - 2013.10.17 18:00:00 -
[284] - Quote
Leto Thule wrote:Hope it wasnt an alpha clone. Don't worry, it wasn't. Oh god. |

Winchester Steele
156
|
Posted - 2013.10.18 05:45:00 -
[285] - Quote
Axium Cog wrote:Sabriz Adoudel wrote:Axium Cog wrote:I just won Eve.
I was sitting in Jita 4-4, waiting on some PI buy orders to turn over. I stood to make 80m that day if all went well. Big money.
I inevitably got bored, and once I had blocked all the spammer and scammers, i absorbed some tears from a fresh scamming victim whining in local, then noticed a toon speaking in awe about Erotica 1.
I unblocked him to see what all the fuss was about. I read his rules, chatted him a bit. His game was refreshingly original, and well thought out, so i decided to risk 600m. If I lost it, he deserved it for having put so much effort into his scheme. if i won, well thats an easy 1.2b.
I sent the isk, and was promptly invited to a group chat, where like so many banner adds i was greeted with:
"Congratulations!! You're the 100th client, you win a bonus round. 5x payout if you make it to the end."
My initial reaction was to find the X, but went against my better judgement, and decided to play.
I was told I had to give complete trust to this stranger who was probably a scammer. I had to empty my wallet and LP. I had to contract all my assets. My Special Edition Gifts from CCP, a 30 PLEX i had for a rainy day. Everything.
Complete trust.
I then had to empty my next toon and the next, even turning over their tax dodge corporations.
I even had to strip all my vanity items from my toon. Anything that could be liquidated.
I was then told to repeated undock in my sole posession: my pod, accept a duel, which i would lose, while singing songs on TS3 like "I Kissed a Girl - Katy Perry" "Ring of Fire - Johnny Cash" "Nothing Else Matters - Metallica" "Zombie - Cranberries" "Oops I Did It Again - Brittany Spears" and countless others.
I couldnt even keep my dignity as a shower singer.
I then had to read about St Olga of Kiev, who Erotica 1 has been compared to in the past. I had to read minerbumping.com, where i got a lump in my throat that James 315, who was so greatly admired by the people who now hold everything i have worked to achieve in 4 years, was an old nemisis i went up against years ago. I had to read his code, faqs, and about from his page, alloud while recorded on TS3.
I even was reminded about a famous corp theft from my now mothballed alliance from years ago(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wVZLsDxemA0).
Now i stand to either lose everything, or gain ~25b worth of assets and isk.
Fingers Crossed. Good luck! Make sure to follow the rules exactly - the people that mess up fund the fun for everyone else. Wishing you well, it's been a while since we had a big winner. I had a ship that belonged to a friend that died overseas. I didnt want to give it up, so they made me come up with the isk. I dont have friends in eve anymore apparently. I resorted to chribba who agreed to hold it for me till i could pay him back the 200 mil it was worth. Then they hit me with a random "Red Pen" violation worth 30mil because god forbid i attempt to duel James 315. Chribba had understandably hit his limit on scam bleeding. One nice fella who would be a victim tried to raise the 30 mil, but only managed 8. As downtime approached i broke down. I realized the one stable source of fun for the last 4 years had finally come to an end. All of my friends i used to play with either no longer play or died overseas. I no longer have the assets to play on my own. Games over. I lose. I lost everything. The only item i have is my friend Maelstrom that was purchased back by the only person with a soul who knew what was going on. I gave the nice guy his 8 mil back. I put away my friends maelstrom. Im done. Eve is no longer fun for me. Dont play his game.
It's unfortunate that you were unable to stay the course and follow the rules of the game. Such an amazing opportunity wasted.
I'd ask if I could have your stuff, but I guess thats pointless since you gave it all to Erotica1 already. ... |

Erotica 1
Krypteia Operations
1575
|
Posted - 2013.10.18 07:55:00 -
[286] - Quote
Yet another testimonial:
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=287661
Will the next contestant win big? See Bio for isk doubling rules. -áIf you didn't read bio, chances are you helped fund those who did. |

Malcolm Shinhwa
Bad Touches
582
|
Posted - 2013.10.19 00:37:00 -
[287] - Quote
I don't know, but I am so glad to have you back. When you left it was like my heart had an empty spot.. and then it doubled. Hey CCP, please slush my fund like you did for SOMER Blink. |

Carmen Electra
The Scope Gallente Federation
39
|
Posted - 2013.11.02 05:18:00 -
[288] - Quote
Can confirm ISK doubling business is legit. Sent 50m, got 100m back. |

Sabriz Adoudel
Mission BLITZ
1076
|
Posted - 2013.11.02 05:22:00 -
[289] - Quote
Carmen Electra wrote:Can confirm ISK doubling business is legit. Sent 50m, got 100m back.
Congratulations on following the rules and winning the game. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=238931 - an idea for a new form of hybrid PVE/PVP content. The difference between an enemy and a friend is that you stab your enemies in the front. |

Carmen Electra
The Scope Gallente Federation
40
|
Posted - 2013.11.02 05:29:00 -
[290] - Quote
http://imgur.com/MVwMwsp |

Bella Oskolda
Republic University Minmatar Republic
1
|
Posted - 2014.01.27 04:26:00 -
[291] - Quote
Erotica 1 is legit. I'm glad I played. http://i.imgur.com/rLDoTw6.jpg |

Asia Leigh
Beyond New Frontier
7
|
Posted - 2014.01.27 06:35:00 -
[292] - Quote
People still fall for this ****? Are you kidding me? All I see is in this thread is scammers, people posting obvious photo-shopped crap, and first class idiots who continue to fall for this scam.
Really if you lost all your isk to him, good for you. You deserve everything you get. If you are really this gullible I have some swamp land I want to sell you in Florida, and I hear the Brooklyn Bridge is for sale again >.>
Anyone want to prove me wrong that doesn't involve obvious alts claiming to have gotten large amounts of isk doubled, or photo-shopped screen shots, by all means prove me wrong. But while playing this game I follow the 2 golden rules... Everyone is out to screw you, and Don't trust anyone you cant punch in the face IRL. |

Sabriz Adoudel
Mission BLITZ
1839
|
Posted - 2014.01.27 07:02:00 -
[293] - Quote
Asia Leigh wrote:People still fall for this ****? Are you kidding me? All I see is in this thread is scammers, people posting obvious photo-shopped crap, and first class idiots who continue to fall for this scam.
Really if you lost all your isk to him, good for you. You deserve everything you get. If you are really this gullible I have some swamp land I want to sell you in Florida, and I hear the Brooklyn Bridge is for sale again >.>
Anyone want to prove me wrong that doesn't involve obvious alts claiming to have gotten large amounts of isk doubled, or photo-shopped screen shots, by all means prove me wrong. But while playing this game I follow the 2 golden rules... Everyone is out to screw you, and Don't trust anyone you cant punch in the face IRL.
I could not punch RAW23 in the face IRL yet I entered into a loan agreement with him/her/it that involved trust on my behalf. I did so because I recognise that betraying me would cost RAW23 future business, more than he/she could make by running off with the collateral and screwing me that way.
That's because I did a risk assessment that RAW23's integrity is worth more to his/her business than the value of defaulting on my loan.
Erotica 1's reputation is similar. Ero makes a LOT of ISK from her reputation of honoring the rules of her game. Why would she default for a 1-2b gain? https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=238931 - an idea for a new form of hybrid PVE/PVP content. EVE's golden rule: Never trust anyone in-game unless you are sleeping with them in real life. Even then, they may only be screwing you to screw you. |

Boom Boom Longtime
EVE Corporation 6908469858 Heroes and Villains.
653
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Posted - 2014.01.27 07:08:00 -
[294] - Quote
What is it about you prude men of the internet that read the eula and consent to the terms of this game yet get bee in bonnet angsty and mash your keyboards about permissable mechanics ?
Erotica is legit.
Shame on any of you who suggest otherwise. Concord Approved Trader |

Asia Leigh
Beyond New Frontier
7
|
Posted - 2014.01.27 07:34:00 -
[295] - Quote
Sabriz Adoudel wrote:Asia Leigh wrote:People still fall for this ****? Are you kidding me? All I see is in this thread is scammers, people posting obvious photo-shopped crap, and first class idiots who continue to fall for this scam.
Really if you lost all your isk to him, good for you. You deserve everything you get. If you are really this gullible I have some swamp land I want to sell you in Florida, and I hear the Brooklyn Bridge is for sale again >.>
Anyone want to prove me wrong that doesn't involve obvious alts claiming to have gotten large amounts of isk doubled, or photo-shopped screen shots, by all means prove me wrong. But while playing this game I follow the 2 golden rules... Everyone is out to screw you, and Don't trust anyone you cant punch in the face IRL. I could not punch RAW23 in the face IRL yet I entered into a loan agreement with him/her/it that involved trust on my behalf. I did so because I recognise that betraying me would cost RAW23 future business, more than he/she could make by running off with the collateral and screwing me that way. That's because I did a risk assessment that RAW23's integrity is worth more to his/her business than the value of defaulting on my loan. Erotica 1's reputation is similar. Ero makes a LOT of ISK from her reputation of honoring the rules of her game. Why would she default for a 1-2b gain?
You can't even begin to compare this to a loan service business... This is more of a 'gambling game' then a 'business model' and everyone knows that 999 out of a 1000 'gambling games' in eve are scams. So you will have to excuse my skepticism.
Also why would someone use a known scam racket to model their 'business model' around if they are trying to make isk and perceive to be legit?
Also there is Erotica1's reputation on the forums that doesn't really promote a trustworthy atmosphere around this... |

Sabriz Adoudel
Mission BLITZ
1844
|
Posted - 2014.01.27 08:31:00 -
[296] - Quote
Asia Leigh wrote:
You can't even begin to compare this to a loan service business... This is more of a 'gambling game' then a 'business model' and everyone knows that 999 out of a 1000 'gambling games' in eve are scams. So you will have to excuse my skepticism.
Also why would someone use a known scam racket to model their 'business model' around if they are trying to make isk and perceive to be legit?
Also there is Erotica1's reputation on the forums that doesn't really promote a trustworthy atmosphere around this...
You are aware that RAW23 (to take the same example, again someone the community generally considers legit who I also trust) is also copying a model that has been used by many a scammer, right?
Someone can easily offer collateralized loans at low rates, demand excess collateral, then steal the collateral forfeiting the loan amount. This has been done time and time again, yet RAW23 is not suspected of doing this by anyone.
Ero is the same.
Of course, however - if you smell a rat, you do not need to take part. Your loss. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=238931 - an idea for a new form of hybrid PVE/PVP content. EVE's golden rule: Never trust anyone in-game unless you are sleeping with them in real life. Even then, they may only be screwing you to screw you. |

Fumika Karusaka
Karusaka Family
4
|
Posted - 2014.01.27 08:47:00 -
[297] - Quote
Boom Boom Longtime wrote:What is it about you prude men of the internet that read the eula and consent to the terms of this game yet get bee in bonnet angsty and mash your keyboards about permissable mechanics ?
Erotica is legit.
Shame on any of you who suggest otherwise.
Legit at scamming yes :) I remember my fond memories of meeting you in EVE Boom :) After being a few weeks old and loosing that what was it about 400M ISK ?
Ahhhhh being scammed is actually a good thing in EVE, it teaches you the lesson of 'Dont Trust Anyone'
Evil is not just an alignment, it's a perspective |

Plastic Psycho
Necro-Economics
1036
|
Posted - 2014.01.27 15:29:00 -
[298] - Quote
 It's alive! The Necro Thread from Beyooooond!
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Ryder 'ook
Die..Brut
44
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Posted - 2014.01.27 15:56:00 -
[299] - Quote
Ero's still alive???
I think he/she drowned in mayonnaise some months ago? Every atom in our bodies was forged in the furnace of ancient stars - it's time we return home. |

Plastic Psycho
Necro-Economics
1038
|
Posted - 2014.01.27 16:31:00 -
[300] - Quote
Ryder 'ook wrote:Ero's still alive???
I think he/she drowned in mayonnaise some months ago? I understand there was a snorkel involved... |

Asia Leigh
Beyond New Frontier
7
|
Posted - 2014.01.28 01:43:00 -
[301] - Quote
Sabriz Adoudel wrote:Asia Leigh wrote:
You can't even begin to compare this to a loan service business... This is more of a 'gambling game' then a 'business model' and everyone knows that 999 out of a 1000 'gambling games' in eve are scams. So you will have to excuse my skepticism.
Also why would someone use a known scam racket to model their 'business model' around if they are trying to make isk and perceive to be legit?
Also there is Erotica1's reputation on the forums that doesn't really promote a trustworthy atmosphere around this...
You are aware that RAW23 (to take the same example, again someone the community generally considers legit who I also trust) is also copying a model that has been used by many a scammer, right? Someone can easily offer collateralized loans at low rates, demand excess collateral, then steal the collateral forfeiting the loan amount. This has been done time and time again, yet RAW23 is not suspected of doing this by anyone. Ero is the same. Of course, however - if you smell a rat, you do not need to take part. Your loss.
Everything in EVE can be made a scam. From ISK doubling all the way down to your basic goons recruitment scam. Some activities are more targeted by scammers then others.
The fact that Ero is involved with code, which is nothing more then a protection racket scam pretty much says it all. I particularly target miners that have paid for a "mining permit" to prove this point.
|

Sabriz Adoudel
Mission BLITZ
1852
|
Posted - 2014.01.28 01:46:00 -
[302] - Quote
Asia Leigh wrote:
Everything in EVE can be made a scam. From ISK doubling all the way down to your basic goons recruitment scam. Some activities are more targeted by scammers then others.
The fact that Ero is involved with code, which is nothing more then a protection racket scam pretty much says it all. I particularly target miners that have paid for a "mining permit" to prove this point.
How is a protection racket a scam?
Well, it would be a scam if CODE enforcers offered protection then didn't honor that promise and kept demanding more money, but that's not how we operate. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=238931 - an idea for a new form of hybrid PVE/PVP content. EVE's golden rule: Never trust anyone in-game unless you are sleeping with them in real life. Even then, they may only be screwing you to screw you. |

Asia Leigh
Beyond New Frontier
8
|
Posted - 2014.01.28 04:37:00 -
[303] - Quote
Sabriz Adoudel wrote:Asia Leigh wrote:
Everything in EVE can be made a scam. From ISK doubling all the way down to your basic goons recruitment scam. Some activities are more targeted by scammers then others.
The fact that Ero is involved with code, which is nothing more then a protection racket scam pretty much says it all. I particularly target miners that have paid for a "mining permit" to prove this point.
How is a protection racket a scam? Well, it would be a scam if CODE enforcers offered protection then didn't honor that promise and kept demanding more money, but that's not how we operate.
Funny, because no one from code comes in to blow up my catalyst or my alts catalyst when ganking 'complient' miners. How exactly are you providing them protection again?
Its a scam because your charging for a service you cant hope to provide. |

Sabriz Adoudel
Mission BLITZ
1853
|
Posted - 2014.01.28 04:59:00 -
[304] - Quote
Asia Leigh wrote:Sabriz Adoudel wrote:Asia Leigh wrote:
Everything in EVE can be made a scam. From ISK doubling all the way down to your basic goons recruitment scam. Some activities are more targeted by scammers then others.
The fact that Ero is involved with code, which is nothing more then a protection racket scam pretty much says it all. I particularly target miners that have paid for a "mining permit" to prove this point.
How is a protection racket a scam? Well, it would be a scam if CODE enforcers offered protection then didn't honor that promise and kept demanding more money, but that's not how we operate. Funny, because no one from code comes in to blow up my catalyst or my alts catalyst when ganking 'complient' miners. How exactly are you providing them protection again? Its a scam because your charging for a service you cant hope to provide.
Noone in the Minerbumping community claims we will protect people from attacks from people outside the New Order.
We will provide Code compliant miners with advice on how to protect themselves, of course. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=238931 - an idea for a new form of hybrid PVE/PVP content. EVE's golden rule: Never trust anyone in-game unless you are sleeping with them in real life. Even then, they may only be screwing you to screw you. |

Dalto Bane
Knights of the Posing Meat Suddenly Spaceships.
27
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Posted - 2014.01.28 11:49:00 -
[305] - Quote
Erotica 1 is #1 ISK doubler! Also always seems very pleasant in local chat. "Wolves don't lose sleep over the opinions of sheep." |

Se'nizi Ronuken
Black Ocean Adventurers
1
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Posted - 2014.01.29 20:00:00 -
[306] - Quote
Just tried this, got my isk doubled, unfortunatley didnt have enough to try a third time! |

Maximillian Stark
Aliastra Gallente Federation
122
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Posted - 2014.01.29 22:22:00 -
[307] - Quote
I usually don't bother commenting on scammers but this is pathetic. Everyone that genuinely believes this person, please take a look at this post that was posted in the first page of this thread ;
Luffleg wrote:Dramatic title: Another conspiracy theory! So, I decided to try this very risky "Game of Iskies" - One of the most frightening "Double isk"-scams to date. I'm not a wealthy guy, but I had enough to make this little experiment. I deposited 200mil to Erotica's wallet, much to my surprise I actually got the 400mil back pretty quickly, followed by a mail from Erotica giving me 'Thanks' and told me he were going out for a smoke. This is where I had to decide, keep the money or risk it all going further? I risked it, for the community I thought. He was away for a few minutes and when he came back apparently his wallet had been spammed with .10's and he couldn't verify my deposit.This is where I understood what was truly going on and indeed confirmed the end result of this experiment. As you know, how hard is it to confirm a deposit on, let's say, EVEMon? Takes about 10 seconds, this is where I truly knew that I was stuck in the mud for good. As I decided to keep going, I needed to PLEX myself some fast iskies in order to reveal his little ".10 wallet-spam-can't-verify-deposit"-stunt. After about an hour of waiting for the PLEX I was ready to give him another 800mil isk. (Am I crazy you ask? Yes, extremely so. I had already lost the money I had, and again, I might as well go all out as I originally intended.) So, I made sure he was "watching" and "taking note" of his balance. I made the deposit on his go, he asked me to enter a "tip" on his bounty so I did that as well, I deposited my last 42mil. TL;DR - So, I gave him some iskies in return for some juicy evidence of his little project. Mostly because I knew that the evidence already provided was lack-luster and could easily be framed as "troll attempts", "failed deposits" or "people don't read the rules.", etc. Feel free to PM me if you want the "full story" - And if you want to help me recover the losses I've made, feel free to do so. However, don't feel obliged - I did this knowingly and I expect nothing in return from anyone. PS: I know that this will quickly be accused asa troll attempt, "false accusations" and all that jazz. Just ask yourself one quick question, why would I spend this amount of time to achieve something if it wasn't valid? What do I have to gain, why would I care? --- Exactly. ;) Much love, Luffleg. The Album of pictures: http://imgur.com/a/6oPduPictures: http://i.imgur.com/yKZh1QRh.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/il4UVU6h.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/Wn63RIJh.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/ftEnsCRh.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/Zyz8jh2h.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/aybmPXqh.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/M0LWCjq.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/Qnn3htw.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/GsDSZhY.jpgAlso, just to cover as much angles I can. Here is my timezone which explains +1 hour on transaction logs. http://i.imgur.com/Kl5Xinb.jpg
Know that the people supporting this person are friends, alts or people who like to troll. Don't trust this person, just laugh at him or links this post whenever he/she is advertising this scam service in Jita. Just my honest 2 cents.  |

Sabriz Adoudel
Mission BLITZ
1870
|
Posted - 2014.01.29 22:28:00 -
[308] - Quote
Maximillian Stark wrote:I usually don't bother commenting on scammers but this is pathetic. Everyone that genuinely believes this person, please take a look at this post that was posted in the first page of this thread ; Luffleg wrote:Dramatic title: Another conspiracy theory! So, I decided to try this very risky "Game of Iskies" - One of the most frightening "Double isk"-scams to date. I'm not a wealthy guy, but I had enough to make this little experiment. I deposited 200mil to Erotica's wallet, much to my surprise I actually got the 400mil back pretty quickly, followed by a mail from Erotica giving me 'Thanks' and told me he were going out for a smoke. This is where I had to decide, keep the money or risk it all going further? I risked it, for the community I thought. He was away for a few minutes and when he came back apparently his wallet had been spammed with .10's and he couldn't verify my deposit.This is where I understood what was truly going on and indeed confirmed the end result of this experiment. As you know, how hard is it to confirm a deposit on, let's say, EVEMon? Takes about 10 seconds, this is where I truly knew that I was stuck in the mud for good. As I decided to keep going, I needed to PLEX myself some fast iskies in order to reveal his little ".10 wallet-spam-can't-verify-deposit"-stunt. After about an hour of waiting for the PLEX I was ready to give him another 800mil isk. (Am I crazy you ask? Yes, extremely so. I had already lost the money I had, and again, I might as well go all out as I originally intended.) So, I made sure he was "watching" and "taking note" of his balance. I made the deposit on his go, he asked me to enter a "tip" on his bounty so I did that as well, I deposited my last 42mil. TL;DR - So, I gave him some iskies in return for some juicy evidence of his little project. Mostly because I knew that the evidence already provided was lack-luster and could easily be framed as "troll attempts", "failed deposits" or "people don't read the rules.", etc. Feel free to PM me if you want the "full story" - And if you want to help me recover the losses I've made, feel free to do so. However, don't feel obliged - I did this knowingly and I expect nothing in return from anyone. PS: I know that this will quickly be accused asa troll attempt, "false accusations" and all that jazz. Just ask yourself one quick question, why would I spend this amount of time to achieve something if it wasn't valid? What do I have to gain, why would I care? --- Exactly. ;) Much love, Luffleg. The Album of pictures: http://imgur.com/a/6oPduPictures: http://i.imgur.com/yKZh1QRh.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/il4UVU6h.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/Wn63RIJh.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/ftEnsCRh.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/Zyz8jh2h.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/aybmPXqh.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/M0LWCjq.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/Qnn3htw.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/GsDSZhY.jpgAlso, just to cover as much angles I can. Here is my timezone which explains +1 hour on transaction logs. http://i.imgur.com/Kl5Xinb.jpg Know that the people supporting this person are friends, alts or people who like to troll. Don't trust this person, just laugh at him or links this post whenever he/she is advertising this scam service in Jita. Just my honest 2 cents. 
Reread Erotica 1's rules.
A 200m deposit followed by another deposit (your post doesn't specify the amount) followed by an 800m deposit cannot possibly meet all of Erotica 1's game rules.
The "My wallet is getting flooded" was a very clever way for Ero, once realising Luffleg had lost the game, to try to get them to make another failed deposit.
Thank you Luffleg for funding this service for those of us that can read. And thank you Erotica for being so damn good at getting additional ISK out of losing players. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=238931 - an idea for a new form of hybrid PVE/PVP content. EVE's golden rule: Never trust anyone in-game unless you are sleeping with them in real life. Even then, they may only be screwing you to screw you. |

Maximillian Stark
Aliastra Gallente Federation
123
|
Posted - 2014.01.29 22:40:00 -
[309] - Quote
She deposited 200m and got it. She then decided to donate an unspecified amount, to which she never got anything. Well, then you can say a. the last amount she received was the 400m or b. the last amount she received was nothing, since she was scammed out of it. Then she decided to give her 800m (Which is 2x the amount in both cases, following her rules) and it was her third try, still following the rules. Yet she received nothing. She was scammed out of her money, no matter how you look at it.
Stop defending your alt/friend, it's funny yet also pathetic to see. |

Erotica 1
Krypteia Operations CODE.
3374
|
Posted - 2014.01.29 23:11:00 -
[310] - Quote
Maximillian Stark wrote:She deposited 200m and got it. She then decided to donate an unspecified amount, to which she never got anything. Well, then you can say a. the last amount she received was the 400m or b. the last amount she received was nothing, since she was scammed out of it. Then she decided to give her 800m (Which is 2x the amount in both cases, following her rules) and it was her third try, still following the rules. Yet she received nothing. She was scammed out of her money, no matter how you look at it.
Stop defending your alt/friend, it's funny yet also pathetic to see.
Your name rings a bell but I'm away from my computer now. Can you kindly link a wallet pic of the last few days journals for us? Thanks. See Bio for isk doubling rules. If you didn't read bio, chances are you funded those who did. |

Sabriz Adoudel
Mission BLITZ
1870
|
Posted - 2014.01.29 23:12:00 -
[311] - Quote
Maximillian Stark wrote:She deposited 200m and got it. She then decided to donate an unspecified amount, to which she never got anything. Well, then you can say a. the last amount she received was the 400m or b. the last amount she received was nothing, since she was scammed out of it. Then she decided to give her 800m (Which is 2x the amount in both cases, following her rules) and it was her third try, still following the rules. Yet she received nothing. She was scammed out of her money, no matter how you look at it.
Stop defending your alt/friend, it's funny yet also pathetic to see.
200m to 400m to 800m would break the rules. Only the 200m was within the rules, only it was paid.
Thank you for funding the service for everyone else. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=238931 - an idea for a new form of hybrid PVE/PVP content. EVE's golden rule: Never trust anyone in-game unless you are sleeping with them in real life. Even then, they may only be screwing you to screw you. |

Maximillian Stark
Aliastra Gallente Federation
123
|
Posted - 2014.01.29 23:17:00 -
[312] - Quote
Sabriz Adoudel wrote:Maximillian Stark wrote:She deposited 200m and got it. She then decided to donate an unspecified amount, to which she never got anything. Well, then you can say a. the last amount she received was the 400m or b. the last amount she received was nothing, since she was scammed out of it. Then she decided to give her 800m (Which is 2x the amount in both cases, following her rules) and it was her third try, still following the rules. Yet she received nothing. She was scammed out of her money, no matter how you look at it.
Stop defending your alt/friend, it's funny yet also pathetic to see. 200m to 400m to 800m would break the rules. Only the 200m was within the rules, only it was paid. Thank you for funding the service for everyone else.
Here are these rules you so mistakingly use
Quote:"Rules:
Send me 50M-500M, get 2x back.
Send 600M to 1 Billion get 3x back.
Invest 3-5 Billion and get 5x back!
over 50 BILLION liquid isk, over 250 billion in assets, so your amounts can be easily covered. However, I do limit 3 investments per player. This is necessary to keep business afloat. Each investment must be at least 2x what you received just prior. Toons must be >4 weeks old.
Rules are straight-forward. Amounts not listed are donations."
Please read them through again, you do not seem to understand them. She got scammed, no matter the way you look at it.
Stop trying to defend yourself pal.  |

Billy McCandless
The McCandless Clan Turing Tested
150
|
Posted - 2014.01.29 23:19:00 -
[313] - Quote
Maximillian Stark wrote:
Stop defending your alt/friend, it's funny yet also pathetic to see.
y is it funneh if yore frend get skamed
if its funeh ist nein einer skammen
also, u are wrong
yore frend didnt follw rulse even aye can see dat |

Sabriz Adoudel
Mission BLITZ
1871
|
Posted - 2014.01.29 23:20:00 -
[314] - Quote
Maximillian Stark wrote:Sabriz Adoudel wrote:Maximillian Stark wrote:She deposited 200m and got it. She then decided to donate an unspecified amount, to which she never got anything. Well, then you can say a. the last amount she received was the 400m or b. the last amount she received was nothing, since she was scammed out of it. Then she decided to give her 800m (Which is 2x the amount in both cases, following her rules) and it was her third try, still following the rules. Yet she received nothing. She was scammed out of her money, no matter how you look at it.
Stop defending your alt/friend, it's funny yet also pathetic to see. 200m to 400m to 800m would break the rules. Only the 200m was within the rules, only it was paid. Thank you for funding the service for everyone else. Here are these rules you so mistakingly use "Rules:
Send me 50M-500M, get 2x back.
Send 600M to 1 Billion get 3x back.
Invest 3-5 Billion and get 5x back!
over 50 BILLION liquid isk, over 250 billion in assets, so your amounts can be easily covered. However, I do limit 3 investments per player. This is necessary to keep business afloat. Each investment must be at least 2x what you received just prior. Toons must be >4 weeks old.
Rules are straight-forward. Amounts not listed are donations."Please read them through again, you do not seem to understand them. She got scammed, no matter the way you look at it.
Yes, I have reread those rules. I know them very, very well.
Neither the 400m or 800m plays were legit.
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=238931 - an idea for a new form of hybrid PVE/PVP content. EVE's golden rule: Never trust anyone in-game unless you are sleeping with them in real life. Even then, they may only be screwing you to screw you. |

Paranoid Loyd
356
|
Posted - 2014.01.29 23:20:00 -
[315] - Quote
Maximillian Stark wrote:Sabriz Adoudel wrote:Maximillian Stark wrote:She deposited 200m and got it. She then decided to donate an unspecified amount, to which she never got anything. Well, then you can say a. the last amount she received was the 400m or b. the last amount she received was nothing, since she was scammed out of it. Then she decided to give her 800m (Which is 2x the amount in both cases, following her rules) and it was her third try, still following the rules. Yet she received nothing. She was scammed out of her money, no matter how you look at it.
Stop defending your alt/friend, it's funny yet also pathetic to see. 200m to 400m to 800m would break the rules. Only the 200m was within the rules, only it was paid. Thank you for funding the service for everyone else. Here are these rules you so mistakingly use "Rules:
Send me 50M-500M, get 2x back.
Send 600M to 1 Billion get 3x back.
Invest 3-5 Billion and get 5x back!
over 50 BILLION liquid isk, over 250 billion in assets, so your amounts can be easily covered. However, I do limit 3 investments per player. This is necessary to keep business afloat. Each investment must be at least 2x what you received just prior. Toons must be >4 weeks old.
Rules are straight-forward. Amounts not listed are donations."Please read them through again, you do not seem to understand them. She got scammed, no matter the way you look at it. Stop trying to defend yourself pal. 
You made an assumption in regards to the "-" "PvE in EVE is a trap to turn you into PvP content, don't confuse it for actual gameplay." Lipbite |

Maximillian Stark
Aliastra Gallente Federation
123
|
Posted - 2014.01.29 23:26:00 -
[316] - Quote
Sabriz Adoudel wrote:Maximillian Stark wrote:Sabriz Adoudel wrote:Maximillian Stark wrote:She deposited 200m and got it. She then decided to donate an unspecified amount, to which she never got anything. Well, then you can say a. the last amount she received was the 400m or b. the last amount she received was nothing, since she was scammed out of it. Then she decided to give her 800m (Which is 2x the amount in both cases, following her rules) and it was her third try, still following the rules. Yet she received nothing. She was scammed out of her money, no matter how you look at it.
Stop defending your alt/friend, it's funny yet also pathetic to see. 200m to 400m to 800m would break the rules. Only the 200m was within the rules, only it was paid. Thank you for funding the service for everyone else. Here are these rules you so mistakingly use "Rules:
Send me 50M-500M, get 2x back.
Send 600M to 1 Billion get 3x back.
Invest 3-5 Billion and get 5x back!
over 50 BILLION liquid isk, over 250 billion in assets, so your amounts can be easily covered. However, I do limit 3 investments per player. This is necessary to keep business afloat. Each investment must be at least 2x what you received just prior. Toons must be >4 weeks old.
Rules are straight-forward. Amounts not listed are donations."Please read them through again, you do not seem to understand them. She got scammed, no matter the way you look at it. Yes, I have reread those rules. I know them very, very well. Neither the 400m or 800m plays were legit.
She doubled 200m, in 50-500M range. 400m payout, the scammer knew she had more to waste on her. 1st try. She got scammed unspecified amount, 0 payout. Second try She gave the scammer 800M, within price range, atleast X2 of last amount received. 0 payout. Third try
She got scammed, even though she was completely following the rules. Erotica is a poor girl who's good at seeing which suckers are scammable. If she thought fluff wouldn't go for a higher amount, she would never have doubled the 200m in the first place.
Watch out for this scammer, she may be backed up by trolls/friends/alts like the one I'm quoting but she is not to be trusted. 
Also, the scammer confirmed 200m was in the price range since she doubled it for her. Thus the assumption I and alot of others are making is true, she DOES stick to her rules when she likes it, but neglects them when she feels like it too.
Filthy scammer. |

Erotica 1
Krypteia Operations CODE.
3375
|
Posted - 2014.01.29 23:37:00 -
[317] - Quote
Again sir, I ask you, your name sounds awfully familar. Did you not also break the rules yourself within the past few days, or perhaps won big? See Bio for isk doubling rules. If you didn't read bio, chances are you funded those who did. |

Sabriz Adoudel
Mission BLITZ
1871
|
Posted - 2014.01.29 23:37:00 -
[318] - Quote
Maximillian Stark wrote: Also, the scammer confirmed 200m was in the price range since she doubled it for her. Thus the assumption I and alot of others are making is true, she DOES stick to her rules when she likes it, but neglects them when she feels like it too.
Filthy scammer.
Your logic here makes a false assumption, one that helps fund this service a lot.
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=238931 - an idea for a new form of hybrid PVE/PVP content. EVE's golden rule: Never trust anyone in-game unless you are sleeping with them in real life. Even then, they may only be screwing you to screw you. |

Maximillian Stark
Aliastra Gallente Federation
124
|
Posted - 2014.01.29 23:45:00 -
[319] - Quote
Sabriz Adoudel wrote:Maximillian Stark wrote: Also, the scammer confirmed 200m was in the price range since she doubled it for her. Thus the assumption I and alot of others are making is true, she DOES stick to her rules when she likes it, but neglects them when she feels like it too.
Filthy scammer.
Your logic here makes a false assumption, one that helps fund this service a lot.
I'm not the one making a false assumption here, the scammer Erotica 1 is making one since she doubled the money of someone that "supposedly" donated an amount that is not precisely stated in her rules. She went a. in breach with her rules for not following the strict lines or b. did but scammed the person when she did not double the 800m.
Don't bother defending your main/alt, we know it's you.  |

Sabriz Adoudel
Mission BLITZ
1871
|
Posted - 2014.01.29 23:51:00 -
[320] - Quote
Maximillian Stark wrote:Sabriz Adoudel wrote:Maximillian Stark wrote: Also, the scammer confirmed 200m was in the price range since she doubled it for her. Thus the assumption I and alot of others are making is true, she DOES stick to her rules when she likes it, but neglects them when she feels like it too.
Filthy scammer.
Your logic here makes a false assumption, one that helps fund this service a lot. I'm not the one making a false assumption here, the scammer Erotica 1 is making one since she doubled the money of someone that "supposedly" donated an amount that is not precisely stated in her rules. She went a. in breach with her rules for not following the strict lines or b. did but scammed the person when she did not double the 800m. Don't bother defending your main/alt, we know it's you. 
Ero is not an alt of mine.
Ero's rules do not prohibit her from paying losers of her game an amount designed to trick them into thinking they won it. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=238931 - an idea for a new form of hybrid PVE/PVP content. EVE's golden rule: Never trust anyone in-game unless you are sleeping with them in real life. Even then, they may only be screwing you to screw you. |

Erotica 1
Krypteia Operations CODE.
3376
|
Posted - 2014.01.30 00:31:00 -
[321] - Quote
Max why are you so bitter? What is your story? See Bio for isk doubling rules. If you didn't read bio, chances are you funded those who did. |

Amrastion Tasartir
Hook In Mouth xXPlease Pandemic Citizens Reloaded Alliance.Xx
4
|
Posted - 2014.01.30 05:32:00 -
[322] - Quote
I participated in the bonus round. I contracted 3b isk to him, and to my surprise he went through with it and sent me 15b, I have never met someone as humble as he. |

Abrei-Kaii
Beyond New Frontier
0
|
Posted - 2014.01.30 06:52:00 -
[323] - Quote
This seems scammy to me...
However to be truthful, all the people claiming to be scammed seems to have either been not following the rules or using photo-shopped screen shots as 'proof'. With that being said I think I'll stay neutral on this one. |

Abrei-Kaii
Beyond New Frontier
0
|
Posted - 2014.01.30 07:15:00 -
[324] - Quote
Maximillian Stark wrote:Sabriz Adoudel wrote:Maximillian Stark wrote:Sabriz Adoudel wrote:Maximillian Stark wrote:She deposited 200m and got it. She then decided to donate an unspecified amount, to which she never got anything. Well, then you can say a. the last amount she received was the 400m or b. the last amount she received was nothing, since she was scammed out of it. Then she decided to give her 800m (Which is 2x the amount in both cases, following her rules) and it was her third try, still following the rules. Yet she received nothing. She was scammed out of her money, no matter how you look at it.
Stop defending your alt/friend, it's funny yet also pathetic to see. 200m to 400m to 800m would break the rules. Only the 200m was within the rules, only it was paid. Thank you for funding the service for everyone else. Here are these rules you so mistakingly use "Rules:
Send me 50M-500M, get 2x back.
Send 600M to 1 Billion get 3x back.
Invest 3-5 Billion and get 5x back!
over 50 BILLION liquid isk, over 250 billion in assets, so your amounts can be easily covered. However, I do limit 3 investments per player. This is necessary to keep business afloat. Each investment must be at least 2x what you received just prior. Toons must be >4 weeks old.
Rules are straight-forward. Amounts not listed are donations."Please read them through again, you do not seem to understand them. She got scammed, no matter the way you look at it. Yes, I have reread those rules. I know them very, very well. Neither the 400m or 800m plays were legit. She doubled 200m, in 50-500M range. 400m payout, the scammer knew she had more to waste on her. 1st try. She got scammed unspecified amount, 0 payout. Second try She gave the scammer 800M, within price range, atleast X2 of last amount received. 0 payout. Third try She got scammed, even though she was completely following the rules.Erotica is a poor girl who's good at seeing which suckers are scammable. If she thought fluff wouldn't go for a higher amount, she would never have doubled the 200m in the first place. Watch out for this scammer, she may be backed up by trolls/friends/alts like the one I'm quoting but she is not to be trusted.  Also, the scammer confirmed 200m was in the price range since she doubled it for her. Thus the assumption I and alot of others are making is true, she DOES stick to her rules when she likes it, but neglects them when she feels like it too. Filthy scammer.
Reading comprehension must not be your thing... Let me help you out here
The rules say double the amount received not played...
so the 200m play is legit, she received 400m so her next play would had to been 800m that would have payed 2.4b, Then the next play would have had to been for 4.8B which would have payed 24B.
With that being said, how does 200m, 800m, 4.8B which is what the rules say = 200m, 400m, 800m? Please explain this to me >.> |

Christian Lionbate
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
28
|
Posted - 2014.01.30 17:13:00 -
[325] - Quote
I'm Erotica's alt and she wont even double my isk if I don't follow the rules To anyone who feels they've been scammed, I suggest you reread the rules, follow them exactly and try again. Its the only way you'll recoup your losses and realise your dream of being space rich.
P.S I'm not really Erotica's alt I just said I was to make a point. Now remember, read the rules, understand them and try again. |

ShamedOne
Failed Diplomacy
39
|
Posted - 2014.01.30 17:41:00 -
[326] - Quote
I just got into the bonus round. I must admit, when he said all assets, it included my adrestia and erebus. I was scared at first, like who would really send me 5x those assets? Well I did, it took him a few hours to sort this isk, and then wow, I have my assets back and now over 800b in my wallet, I mean. Th ebonus round was tons of fun, new friends I read a story, sung PARTY IN THE USA, man. Erotica 1, is my hero. I support him 100% and I suggest you play the game to the full extent! |

Amrastion Tasartir
Hook In Mouth
26
|
Posted - 2014.01.30 17:43:00 -
[327] - Quote
ShamedOne wrote:I just got into the bonus round. I must admit, when he said all assets, it included my adrestia and erebus. I was scared at first, like who would really send me 5x those assets? Well I did, it took him a few hours to sort this isk, and then wow, I have my assets back and now over 800b in my wallet, I mean. Th ebonus round was tons of fun, new friends I read a story, sung PARTY IN THE USA, man. Erotica 1, is my hero. I support him 100% and I suggest you play the game to the full extent!
Thanks for playing the game. o7 to ur t00nie |

Angelica Dreamstar
Epic Boo Bees
412
|
Posted - 2014.01.30 18:24:00 -
[328] - Quote
Except that you're not legit if you use peoples names, when they aren't even in local. And it's pretty dumb too. ^^ EVE ONLINE: The universe is ours!- Join the Epic Boo Bees! (RP,PvE/PvP,wardecs,new players!)You're at it from day 0! |

Erotica 1
Krypteia Operations CODE.
3391
|
Posted - 2014.01.30 18:30:00 -
[329] - Quote
Angelica Dreamstar wrote:Except that you're not legit if you use peoples names, when they aren't even in local. And it's pretty dumb too. ^^
Lots of people play after hearing of corpmates win (or lose) or because they stumbled onto the game from the forum. In case you haven't heard, I've been doing this for awhile. See Bio for isk doubling rules. If you didn't read bio, chances are you funded those who did. |

Maximillian Stark
Aliastra Gallente Federation
130
|
Posted - 2014.01.30 18:51:00 -
[330] - Quote
Hey I'm back, seeing this thread has hit a new page I think I have to post this again. People who genuinely believe this scammer's efforts, don't. The people "admitting" she doubled their money are friends, alts (She has a lot of them, just so you know ) or people who like to troll. Don't give this scammer one tiny bit. She goes in breach with her own rules which is pretty funny. You will never be able to make money off her, ever. Just my honest 2 cents. 
Luffleg wrote:Dramatic title: Another conspiracy theory! So, I decided to try this very risky "Game of Iskies" - One of the most frightening "Double isk"-scams to date. I'm not a wealthy guy, but I had enough to make this little experiment. I deposited 200mil to Erotica's wallet, much to my surprise I actually got the 400mil back pretty quickly, followed by a mail from Erotica giving me 'Thanks' and told me he were going out for a smoke. This is where I had to decide, keep the money or risk it all going further? I risked it, for the community I thought. He was away for a few minutes and when he came back apparently his wallet had been spammed with .10's and he couldn't verify my deposit.This is where I understood what was truly going on and indeed confirmed the end result of this experiment. As you know, how hard is it to confirm a deposit on, let's say, EVEMon? Takes about 10 seconds, this is where I truly knew that I was stuck in the mud for good. As I decided to keep going, I needed to PLEX myself some fast iskies in order to reveal his little ".10 wallet-spam-can't-verify-deposit"-stunt. After about an hour of waiting for the PLEX I was ready to give him another 800mil isk. (Am I crazy you ask? Yes, extremely so. I had already lost the money I had, and again, I might as well go all out as I originally intended.) So, I made sure he was "watching" and "taking note" of his balance. I made the deposit on his go, he asked me to enter a "tip" on his bounty so I did that as well, I deposited my last 42mil. TL;DR - So, I gave him some iskies in return for some juicy evidence of his little project. Mostly because I knew that the evidence already provided was lack-luster and could easily be framed as "troll attempts", "failed deposits" or "people don't read the rules.", etc. Feel free to PM me if you want the "full story" - And if you want to help me recover the losses I've made, feel free to do so. However, don't feel obliged - I did this knowingly and I expect nothing in return from anyone. PS: I know that this will quickly be accused asa troll attempt, "false accusations" and all that jazz. Just ask yourself one quick question, why would I spend this amount of time to achieve something if it wasn't valid? What do I have to gain, why would I care? --- Exactly. ;) Much love, Luffleg. The Album of pictures: http://imgur.com/a/6oPduPictures: http://i.imgur.com/yKZh1QRh.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/il4UVU6h.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/Wn63RIJh.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/ftEnsCRh.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/Zyz8jh2h.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/aybmPXqh.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/M0LWCjq.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/Qnn3htw.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/GsDSZhY.jpgAlso, just to cover as much angles I can. Here is my timezone which explains +1 hour on transaction logs. http://i.imgur.com/Kl5Xinb.jpg |

Erotica 1
Krypteia Operations CODE.
3391
|
Posted - 2014.01.30 19:23:00 -
[331] - Quote
I remember now. You're the guy who claims someone got you on teamspeak to steal 59m from you. I offered to help you, and this is the thanks I get. Wow. See Bio for isk doubling rules. If you didn't read bio, chances are you funded those who did. |

Sabriz Adoudel
Mission BLITZ
1881
|
Posted - 2014.01.30 21:03:00 -
[332] - Quote
Maximillian Stark wrote:Hey I'm back, seeing this thread has hit a new page I think I have to post this again. People who genuinely believe this scammer's efforts, don't. The people "admitting" she doubled their money are friends, alts (She has a lot of them, just so you know  ) or people who like to troll. Don't give this scammer one tiny bit. She goes in breach with her own rules which is pretty funny. You will never be able to make money off her, ever. Just my honest 2 cents. 
I am both a friend of Ero and a troll. Guilty as charged. I am not one of her alts, which have a distinctive naming pattern.
None of this changes the fact that the person you quoted broke two of the rules on their second investment and two (not the same two) on the third, and hence lost the game.
Whether the first investment was within the rules or not will remain a closely guarded trade secret. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=238931 - an idea for a new form of hybrid PVE/PVP content. If you want to mine in highsec outside rookie systems, obey the New Haliama Code of Conduct or else the New Order will gank you. www.minerbumping.com for more info. |

Abrei-Kaii
Beyond New Frontier
0
|
Posted - 2014.01.30 23:23:00 -
[333] - Quote
Maximillian Stark wrote:Hey I'm back, seeing this thread has hit a new page I think I have to post this again. People who genuinely believe this scammer's efforts, don't. The people "admitting" she doubled their money are friends, alts (She has a lot of them, just so you know  ) or people who like to troll. Don't give this scammer one tiny bit. She goes in breach with her own rules which is pretty funny. You will never be able to make money off her, ever. Just my honest 2 cents. 
Did you even read my post on the last page >.>
YOU BROKE THE DAMN RULES!!!!!!!!!!! I explained it to you step by step how you broke the rules... Do yourself a favor re-read the rules, then my post >.> You are only making yourself look foolish now :p |

Katran Luftschreck
Royal Ammatar Engineering Corps
2278
|
Posted - 2014.01.31 00:29:00 -
[334] - Quote
Wow, this is the first time I've ever seen a Gutter Press article outside of the IGS. Nullsec in a Nutshell: http://nedroid.com/comics/2006-08-24-2155-arrrdino.gif |

Maximillian Stark
Aliastra Gallente Federation
133
|
Posted - 2014.01.31 08:09:00 -
[335] - Quote
Abrei-Kaii wrote:Maximillian Stark wrote:Hey I'm back, seeing this thread has hit a new page I think I have to post this again. People who genuinely believe this scammer's efforts, don't. The people "admitting" she doubled their money are friends, alts (She has a lot of them, just so you know  ) or people who like to troll. Don't give this scammer one tiny bit. She goes in breach with her own rules which is pretty funny. You will never be able to make money off her, ever. Just my honest 2 cents.  Did you even read my post on the last page >.> YOU BROKE THE DAMN RULES!!!!!!!!!!! I explained it to you step by step how you broke the rules... Do yourself a favor re-read the rules, then my post >.> You are only making yourself look foolish now :p
Please go back to school kiddo. This is what you said ;
DumbpersonAbreiisomething wrote:"so the 200m play is legit, she received 400m so her next play would had to been 800m that would have payed 2.4b, Then the next play would have had to been for 4.8B which would have payed 24B.
With that being said, how does 200m, 800m, 4.8B which is what the rules say = 200m, 400m, 800m? Please explain this to me >.>"
Now let's take a look at the scammer's rules ;
erotica1 wrote:Each investment must be at least 2x what you received just prior.
It has to be at least x2 the amount, not precisly.
It's funny to see you guys failing in trying to make this scammer look good, just like the rest of you. Pathetic, but funny. I see it as my duty to protect the fools of New Eden.
Please do some research in English reading before you post again. o7
P.s : I don't mind you for wrongly using the scammer's rules though. The scammer herself goes in breach with them all the time. 
Remember good people, you will never, ever, make money off this scammer. |

Abe Atlas
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
1
|
Posted - 2014.01.31 08:15:00 -
[336] - Quote
Lol you must be extremely stupid to fall for this scammer |

MajorEvan
The Scope Gallente Federation
0
|
Posted - 2014.01.31 09:26:00 -
[337] - Quote
Scam artist.
To be honest Erotica 1 does sometimes double isk.
However, you have a big chance to lose your isk and get scammed in the process. Erotica 1 kept my 'donation' because I didn't play the *obligatory 100th player bonus round, which required me to give all my assets to Erotica 1 and his/her helpers
Here is a snippet of chatlog:
------Channel ID: -44791285 Channel Name: Erotica 1's Glory Hole
Pee Bubble > I hear there is another lucky winner Pee Bubble > congrats Erotica 1 > ok assets are valued at jita plus 30% so there can be no arguments over value Erotica 1 > agents please x up again Paddy Finn > x excited and waiting MajorEvan > x Erotica 1 > major you are the lucky winner Erotica 1 > the others are my escrow agents MajorEvan > Im downloading teamspeak Erotica 1 > cool Erotica 1 > while that works, go ahead and send assets to the escrow agents Erotica 1 > private contract, one station per agent MajorEvan > Give my assets away? Erotica 1 > correct Erotica 1 > as long as you show me full faith, you will win 5x everything Paddy Finn > I will calculate the assets you contract to me and I will add it to the winnings total Erotica 1 > technically more because of the 30% bonus Paddy Finn > I am a professional Erotica 1 > but you get it MajorEvan > Sorry, I don't like this bonus round. Can't I just get the 600b x 3? Erotica 1 > just please tell all your friends and family and tell others too, its great advertising Erotica 1 > no Erotica 1 > had you been 98th or 99th or 101st yes Erotica 1 > but you were 100th today so you won bonus round Erotica 1 > thats a very good thing, congrats! Erotica 1 > plus, after you win, you may become eve famous
|

Maximillian Stark
Aliastra Gallente Federation
133
|
Posted - 2014.01.31 11:39:00 -
[338] - Quote
MajorEvan wrote:Scam artist.
To be honest Erotica 1 does sometimes double isk.
However, you have a big chance to lose your isk and get scammed in the process. Erotica 1 kept my 'donation' because I didn't play the *obligatory 100th player bonus round, which required me to give all my assets to Erotica 1 and his/her helpers
Here is a snippet of chatlog:
------Channel ID: -44791285 Channel Name: Erotica 1's Glory Hole
Pee Bubble > I hear there is another lucky winner Pee Bubble > congrats Erotica 1 > ok assets are valued at jita plus 30% so there can be no arguments over value Erotica 1 > agents please x up again Paddy Finn > x excited and waiting MajorEvan > x Erotica 1 > major you are the lucky winner Erotica 1 > the others are my escrow agents MajorEvan > Im downloading teamspeak Erotica 1 > cool Erotica 1 > while that works, go ahead and send assets to the escrow agents Erotica 1 > private contract, one station per agent MajorEvan > Give my assets away? Erotica 1 > correct Erotica 1 > as long as you show me full faith, you will win 5x everything Paddy Finn > I will calculate the assets you contract to me and I will add it to the winnings total Erotica 1 > technically more because of the 30% bonus Paddy Finn > I am a professional Erotica 1 > but you get it MajorEvan > Sorry, I don't like this bonus round. Can't I just get the 600b x 3? Erotica 1 > just please tell all your friends and family and tell others too, its great advertising Erotica 1 > no Erotica 1 > had you been 98th or 99th or 101st yes Erotica 1 > but you were 100th today so you won bonus round Erotica 1 > thats a very good thing, congrats! Erotica 1 > plus, after you win, you may become eve famous
Had you given her everything, you would be the first real person ever to fall into her dumb bonus round scam, she was right about that you would become famous though, you would become famous for your stupidity. Good thing you didn't do that.
Also, those "escrow agents" are her alts. She uses no other persons in her scam, it's just her and an army of alts. 
Btw, she only doubles low amounts of money when she knows that the player will certainly play and lose more. She has rules that are infact no rules as she breaches them as she sees fit, she isn't putting any attention to them. |

Sabriz Adoudel
Mission BLITZ
1892
|
Posted - 2014.01.31 11:46:00 -
[339] - Quote
Maximillian Stark wrote:MajorEvan wrote:Scam artist.
To be honest Erotica 1 does sometimes double isk.
However, you have a big chance to lose your isk and get scammed in the process. Erotica 1 kept my 'donation' because I didn't play the *obligatory 100th player bonus round, which required me to give all my assets to Erotica 1 and his/her helpers
Here is a snippet of chatlog:
------Channel ID: -44791285 Channel Name: Erotica 1's Glory Hole
Pee Bubble > I hear there is another lucky winner Pee Bubble > congrats Erotica 1 > ok assets are valued at jita plus 30% so there can be no arguments over value Erotica 1 > agents please x up again Paddy Finn > x excited and waiting MajorEvan > x Erotica 1 > major you are the lucky winner Erotica 1 > the others are my escrow agents MajorEvan > Im downloading teamspeak Erotica 1 > cool Erotica 1 > while that works, go ahead and send assets to the escrow agents Erotica 1 > private contract, one station per agent MajorEvan > Give my assets away? Erotica 1 > correct Erotica 1 > as long as you show me full faith, you will win 5x everything Paddy Finn > I will calculate the assets you contract to me and I will add it to the winnings total Erotica 1 > technically more because of the 30% bonus Paddy Finn > I am a professional Erotica 1 > but you get it MajorEvan > Sorry, I don't like this bonus round. Can't I just get the 600b x 3? Erotica 1 > just please tell all your friends and family and tell others too, its great advertising Erotica 1 > no Erotica 1 > had you been 98th or 99th or 101st yes Erotica 1 > but you were 100th today so you won bonus round Erotica 1 > thats a very good thing, congrats! Erotica 1 > plus, after you win, you may become eve famous
Had you given her everything, you would be the first real person ever to fall into her dumb bonus round scam, she was right about that you would become famous though, you would become famous for your stupidity. Good thing you didn't do that. Also, those "escrow agents" are her alts. She uses no other persons in her scam, it's just her and an army of alts.  Btw, she only doubles low amounts of money when she knows that the player will certainly play and lose more. She has rules that are infact no rules as she breaches them as she sees fit, she isn't putting any attention to them.
I've been in bonus rounds where someone has lost 10.4 billion, I've been in bonus rounds where someone has won 22.4 billion. (Well a bit less because that included their 4.5 odd billion investment, so they were up 18).
It's all a matter of faith.
As you sound like a sceptic, you should probably not participate in a bonus round yourself. I think you would break a rule quickly and disqualify yourself.
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=238931 - an idea for a new form of hybrid PVE/PVP content. If you want to mine in highsec outside rookie systems, obey the New Haliama Code of Conduct or else the New Order will gank you. www.minerbumping.com for more info. |

Erotica 1
Krypteia Operations CODE.
3404
|
Posted - 2014.01.31 16:19:00 -
[340] - Quote
Ah, another guy who seems to think everyone in this game is my alt, except for him. See Bio for isk doubling rules. If you didn't read bio, chances are you funded those who did. |

Thius Taxus Thellere
The Scope Gallente Federation
0
|
Posted - 2014.01.31 16:30:00 -
[341] - Quote
Maximillian Stark wrote:Hey I'm back, seeing this thread has hit a new page I think I have to post this again. People who genuinely believe this scammer's efforts, don't. The people "admitting" she doubled their money are friends, alts (She has a lot of them, just so you know  ) or people who like to troll. Don't give this scammer one tiny bit. She goes in breach with her own rules which is pretty funny. You will never be able to make money off her, ever. Just my honest 2 cents.  Luffleg wrote:Dramatic title: Another conspiracy theory! So, I decided to try this very risky "Game of Iskies" - One of the most frightening "Double isk"-scams to date. I'm not a wealthy guy, but I had enough to make this little experiment. I deposited 200mil to Erotica's wallet, much to my surprise I actually got the 400mil back pretty quickly, followed by a mail from Erotica giving me 'Thanks' and told me he were going out for a smoke. This is where I had to decide, keep the money or risk it all going further? I risked it, for the community I thought. He was away for a few minutes and when he came back apparently his wallet had been spammed with .10's and he couldn't verify my deposit.This is where I understood what was truly going on and indeed confirmed the end result of this experiment. As you know, how hard is it to confirm a deposit on, let's say, EVEMon? Takes about 10 seconds, this is where I truly knew that I was stuck in the mud for good. As I decided to keep going, I needed to PLEX myself some fast iskies in order to reveal his little ".10 wallet-spam-can't-verify-deposit"-stunt. After about an hour of waiting for the PLEX I was ready to give him another 800mil isk. (Am I crazy you ask? Yes, extremely so. I had already lost the money I had, and again, I might as well go all out as I originally intended.) So, I made sure he was "watching" and "taking note" of his balance. I made the deposit on his go, he asked me to enter a "tip" on his bounty so I did that as well, I deposited my last 42mil. TL;DR - So, I gave him some iskies in return for some juicy evidence of his little project. Mostly because I knew that the evidence already provided was lack-luster and could easily be framed as "troll attempts", "failed deposits" or "people don't read the rules.", etc. Feel free to PM me if you want the "full story" - And if you want to help me recover the losses I've made, feel free to do so. However, don't feel obliged - I did this knowingly and I expect nothing in return from anyone. PS: I know that this will quickly be accused asa troll attempt, "false accusations" and all that jazz. Just ask yourself one quick question, why would I spend this amount of time to achieve something if it wasn't valid? What do I have to gain, why would I care? --- Exactly. ;) Much love, Luffleg. The Album of pictures: http://imgur.com/a/6oPduPictures: http://i.imgur.com/yKZh1QRh.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/il4UVU6h.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/Wn63RIJh.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/ftEnsCRh.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/Zyz8jh2h.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/aybmPXqh.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/M0LWCjq.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/Qnn3htw.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/GsDSZhY.jpgAlso, just to cover as much angles I can. Here is my timezone which explains +1 hour on transaction logs. http://i.imgur.com/Kl5Xinb.jpg
You're wrong. Ero 1 doubled my ISK from 50m to 100m. All I had was 80m but if I had enough to keep playing I'm sure she would have doubled. Legit. |

Thius Taxus Thellere
The Scope Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2014.01.31 16:31:00 -
[342] - Quote
And I'm not an alt or a friend. Just a satisfied customer. |

Plastic Psycho
Necro-Economics
1130
|
Posted - 2014.01.31 16:35:00 -
[343] - Quote
Erotica 1 wrote:Ah, another guy who seems to think everyone in this game is my alt, except for him. I am not Erotica 1's alt. I don't think.
:: checks mirror :: Nope. Definately not.
Probably ought to pay more attention to the rules, folks. Can't win unless you play; can't play if you don't follow the rules. |
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ISD Ezwal
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
815

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Posted - 2014.02.01 00:29:00 -
[344] - Quote
I have edited some posts.
The rules: 33. Posting of chat logs outside the Crime & Punishment forum channel is prohibited.
The posting of chat logs between player parties is prohibited on all forum channels of the EVE Online forums, with the exception of the Crime & Punishment Channel where they can be posted as part of stories in the Pirate Story Thread. Specific rules regarding the omission of pilot names apply in this instance. Further details can be found in the rules stickies in the Crime & Punishment forum channel. ISD Ezwal Commander Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department |
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Sabriz Adoudel
Mission BLITZ
1907
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Posted - 2014.02.01 00:32:00 -
[345] - Quote
ISD, I give express permission to anyone that wants to post chat logs of me, or forged chat logs claiming to be me, in this thread todo so. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=238931 - an idea for a new form of hybrid PVE/PVP content. If you want to mine in highsec outside rookie systems, obey the New Haliama Code of Conduct or else the New Order will gank you. www.minerbumping.com for more info. |
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ISD Ezwal
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
816

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Posted - 2014.02.01 00:51:00 -
[346] - Quote
Sabriz Adoudel wrote:ISD, I give express permission to anyone that wants to post chat logs of me, or forged chat logs claiming to be me, in this thread todo so. That's quite nice of you. However, the rules state quite clearly it is not allowed. And that, in the end, is the only thing that counts. ISD Ezwal Commander Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department |
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Zeus Maximo
Mentally Assured Destruction The Pursuit of Happiness
575
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Posted - 2014.02.01 00:58:00 -
[347] - Quote
Sir ISD Ezwal of punishment,
You may join my corp whenever you are ready. You have proven yourself to be extremely consistent and extremely good at your job. If you ever need anything let me know!
Humbly Zeus of Crime jack1974 > can still call me zeus :) if you want Danalee > Jack is more humble :) |

Erotica 1
Krypteia Operations CODE.
3413
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Posted - 2014.02.01 01:18:00 -
[348] - Quote
ISD Ezwal wrote:Sabriz Adoudel wrote:ISD, I give express permission to anyone that wants to post chat logs of me, or forged chat logs claiming to be me, in this thread todo so. That's quite nice of you. However, the rules state quite clearly it is not allowed. And that, in the end, is the only thing that counts.
I hate to step in between friends, but I must agree with ISD Ezwal. Think of the forum rules like the Code. ISD Ezwal is exactly like a Knight of the New Order enforcing the code. He even enforces some of the same rules we do as New Order agents, such as no profanity in local, promoting a rich and vibrant community, etc.
In fact, I'd like to ask ISD Ezwal to do an interview with James 315 for www.minerbumping.com that discusses the importance of rules and order. Of course, he would be expected to keep his neutral position.
Exactly like Knights of the New Order, ISD agents tirelessly work to make Eve better for everyone. If we let some people violate the Code, then the disease spreads and more people would want to. it's just like that with the forum rules. See Bio for isk doubling rules. If you didn't read bio, chances are you funded those who did. |

Kiryen O'Bannon
Thrall Nation Brave Collective
47
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Posted - 2014.02.01 03:52:00 -
[349] - Quote
It was cute for a while, but it's become tiresome. |

Maximillian Stark
Aliastra Gallente Federation
141
|
Posted - 2014.02.01 11:53:00 -
[350] - Quote
Hey I'm back, seeing this thread has hit a new page I think I have to post this again. People who genuinely believe this scammer's efforts, don't. The people "admitting" she doubled their money are friends, alts (She has a lot of them, just so you know Pirate) or people who like to troll. Don't give this scammer one tiny bit. She goes in breach with her own rules which is pretty funny. You will never be able to make money off her, ever. Just my honest 2 cents. P
Luffleg wrote:Dramatic title: Another conspiracy theory! So, I decided to try this very risky "Game of Iskies" - One of the most frightening "Double isk"-scams to date. I'm not a wealthy guy, but I had enough to make this little experiment. I deposited 200mil to Erotica's wallet, much to my surprise I actually got the 400mil back pretty quickly, followed by a mail from Erotica giving me 'Thanks' and told me he were going out for a smoke. This is where I had to decide, keep the money or risk it all going further? I risked it, for the community I thought. He was away for a few minutes and when he came back apparently his wallet had been spammed with .10's and he couldn't verify my deposit.This is where I understood what was truly going on and indeed confirmed the end result of this experiment. As you know, how hard is it to confirm a deposit on, let's say, EVEMon? Takes about 10 seconds, this is where I truly knew that I was stuck in the mud for good. As I decided to keep going, I needed to PLEX myself some fast iskies in order to reveal his little ".10 wallet-spam-can't-verify-deposit"-stunt. After about an hour of waiting for the PLEX I was ready to give him another 800mil isk. (Am I crazy you ask? Yes, extremely so. I had already lost the money I had, and again, I might as well go all out as I originally intended.) So, I made sure he was "watching" and "taking note" of his balance. I made the deposit on his go, he asked me to enter a "tip" on his bounty so I did that as well, I deposited my last 42mil. TL;DR - So, I gave him some iskies in return for some juicy evidence of his little project. Mostly because I knew that the evidence already provided was lack-luster and could easily be framed as "troll attempts", "failed deposits" or "people don't read the rules.", etc. Feel free to PM me if you want the "full story" - And if you want to help me recover the losses I've made, feel free to do so. However, don't feel obliged - I did this knowingly and I expect nothing in return from anyone. PS: I know that this will quickly be accused asa troll attempt, "false accusations" and all that jazz. Just ask yourself one quick question, why would I spend this amount of time to achieve something if it wasn't valid? What do I have to gain, why would I care? --- Exactly. ;) Much love, Luffleg. The Album of pictures: http://imgur.com/a/6oPduPictures: http://i.imgur.com/yKZh1QRh.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/il4UVU6h.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/Wn63RIJh.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/ftEnsCRh.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/Zyz8jh2h.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/aybmPXqh.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/M0LWCjq.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/Qnn3htw.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/GsDSZhY.jpgAlso, just to cover as much angles I can. Here is my timezone which explains +1 hour on transaction logs. http://i.imgur.com/Kl5Xinb.jpg |

Erotica 1
Krypteia Operations CODE.
3418
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Posted - 2014.02.01 15:11:00 -
[351] - Quote
I meet lots of new friends in my business. That shouldn't be a surprise. See Bio for isk doubling rules. If you didn't read bio, chances are you funded those who did. |

Donovan Draknevov
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
54
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Posted - 2014.02.02 00:46:00 -
[352] - Quote
Maximillian Stark wrote:DumbpersonAbreiisomething wrote:"so the 200m play is legit, she received 400m so her next play would had to been 800m that would have payed 2.4b, Then the next play would have had to been for 4.8B which would have payed 24B.
With that being said, how does 200m, 800m, 4.8B which is what the rules say = 200m, 400m, 800m? Please explain this to me >.>" Now let's take a look at the scammer's rules ; erotica1 wrote:Each investment must be at least 2x what you received just prior. It has to be at least x2 the amount, not precisly. It's funny to see you failing in trying to make this scammer look good, just like the rest of you. Pathetic, but funny.  I see it as my duty to protect the fools of New Eden. Please do some research in English reading before you post again. o7 P.s : I don't mind you for wrongly using the scammer's rules though. The scammer herself goes in breach with them all the time.  Remember good people, you will never, ever, make money off this scammer.
Uhh...
Each investment must be at least 2x of what you received just prior.
So 200m would go to 400m. Then you would need to put 800m in, because 800m is 2x 400m.
If the rules were 'Each investment must be 2x of what you previously sent' then you'd be correct in your ire. But it's not.
Please do some research into basic math before you post again o7 Trust in the Rust |

BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie
NEW ORDER DEATH DEALERS CODE.
203
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Posted - 2014.02.02 05:56:00 -
[353] - Quote
Admittedly it is very hard to win under Erotica's isk doubling rules. Fortunately if you are the 100th winner, the opportunities in the bonus room amaze. New player resources: http://wiki.eveuniversity.org/Main_Page - General information http://www.evealtruist.com/p/know-your-enemy.html - Learn to PvP http://belligerentundesirables.com/ - Safaris, Awoxes, Ganking and Griefing-á |

Herpy Space Moo
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
0
|
Posted - 2014.02.02 06:11:00 -
[354] - Quote
Kiryen O'Bannon wrote:It was cute for a while, but it's become tiresome. Completely agree. Erotica tries too hard, it is almost puke worthy. Shame his time in Goons ended badly. Shee wanted so much and ultimately they brought her back to reality. O'well |

Abrei-Kaii
Beyond New Frontier
1
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Posted - 2014.02.02 22:54:00 -
[355] - Quote
Maximillian Stark wrote:Abrei-Kaii wrote:Maximillian Stark wrote:Hey I'm back, seeing this thread has hit a new page I think I have to post this again. People who genuinely believe this scammer's efforts, don't. The people "admitting" she doubled their money are friends, alts (She has a lot of them, just so you know  ) or people who like to troll. Don't give this scammer one tiny bit. She goes in breach with her own rules which is pretty funny. You will never be able to make money off her, ever. Just my honest 2 cents.  Did you even read my post on the last page >.> YOU BROKE THE DAMN RULES!!!!!!!!!!! I explained it to you step by step how you broke the rules... Do yourself a favor re-read the rules, then my post >.> You are only making yourself look foolish now :p Please go back to school. This is what you said ; DumbpersonAbreiisomething wrote:"so the 200m play is legit, she received 400m so her next play would had to been 800m that would have payed 2.4b, Then the next play would have had to been for 4.8B which would have payed 24B.
With that being said, how does 200m, 800m, 4.8B which is what the rules say = 200m, 400m, 800m? Please explain this to me >.>" Now let's take a look at the scammer's rules ; erotica1 wrote:Each investment must be at least 2x what you received just prior. It has to be at least x2 the amount, not precisly. It's funny to see you failing in trying to make this scammer look good, just like the rest of you. Pathetic, but funny.  I see it as my duty to protect the fools of New Eden. Please do some research in English reading before you post again. o7 P.s : I don't mind you for wrongly using the scammer's rules though. The scammer herself goes in breach with them all the time.  Remember good people, you will never, ever, make money off this scammer.
Okay you may be right, but given rules the 2nd play is still illegal, because it had to be atleast 800m since she 'Just received' 400m. She only played 400m... So I ask you again, Explain to me how she got scammed again. And by the way the 3rd play at any amount would have been illegal based on the fact she received nothing for her first illegal play. 0x2 = 0.
By the way I'm not trying to make anyone look good. I even said in my 1st post in this thread that it seemed scammy to me. I'm just trying to get through your thick skull that this person 'wasn't scammed' because she did break the rules. Would she have been scammed regardless? Probably... But erotica1 does have an argument in this case.
I'll learn to read English when you learn simple math...
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Sabriz Adoudel
Mission BLITZ
1927
|
Posted - 2014.02.02 23:14:00 -
[356] - Quote
Abrei-Kaii wrote: Okay you may be right, but given rules the 2nd play is still illegal, because it had to be atleast 800m since she 'Just received' 400m. She only played 400m... So I ask you again, Explain to me how she got scammed again. And by the way the 3rd play at any amount would have been illegal based on the fact she received nothing for her first illegal play. 0x2 = 0.
By the way I'm not trying to make anyone look good. I even said in my 1st post in this thread that it seemed scammy to me. I'm just trying to get through your thick skull that this person 'wasn't scammed' because she did break the rules. Would she have been scammed regardless? Probably... But erotica1 does have an argument in this case.
I'll learn to read English when you learn simple math...
You are actually incorrect as to the third play.
The third play did not violate the "must be at least double" rule.
It did, however, violate two others. The details of these are trade secrets that I will not reveal. But both are in Ero's bio. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=238931 - an idea for a new form of hybrid PVE/PVP content. If you want to mine in highsec outside rookie systems, obey the New Haliama Code of Conduct or else the New Order will gank you. www.minerbumping.com for more info. |

Abrei-Kaii
Beyond New Frontier
2
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Posted - 2014.02.02 23:31:00 -
[357] - Quote
Sabriz Adoudel wrote:Abrei-Kaii wrote: Okay you may be right, but given rules the 2nd play is still illegal, because it had to be atleast 800m since she 'Just received' 400m. She only played 400m... So I ask you again, Explain to me how she got scammed again. And by the way the 3rd play at any amount would have been illegal based on the fact she received nothing for her first illegal play. 0x2 = 0.
By the way I'm not trying to make anyone look good. I even said in my 1st post in this thread that it seemed scammy to me. I'm just trying to get through your thick skull that this person 'wasn't scammed' because she did break the rules. Would she have been scammed regardless? Probably... But erotica1 does have an argument in this case.
I'll learn to read English when you learn simple math...
You are actually incorrect as to the third play. The third play did not violate the "must be at least double" rule. It did, however, violate two others. The details of these are trade secrets that I will not reveal. But both are in Ero's bio.
I must be missing something i'll have to look into it later, but I just saw where even the 1st play is illegal though. She is lucky to even had gotten the first play to be doubled :p |

Herpy Space Moo
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
1
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Posted - 2014.02.02 23:34:00 -
[358] - Quote
Sabriz Adoudel wrote:Abrei-Kaii wrote: Okay you may be right, but given rules the 2nd play is still illegal, because it had to be atleast 800m since she 'Just received' 400m. She only played 400m... So I ask you again, Explain to me how she got scammed again. And by the way the 3rd play at any amount would have been illegal based on the fact she received nothing for her first illegal play. 0x2 = 0.
By the way I'm not trying to make anyone look good. I even said in my 1st post in this thread that it seemed scammy to me. I'm just trying to get through your thick skull that this person 'wasn't scammed' because she did break the rules. Would she have been scammed regardless? Probably... But erotica1 does have an argument in this case.
I'll learn to read English when you learn simple math...
You are actually incorrect as to the third play. The third play did not violate the "must be at least double" rule. It did, however, violate two others. The details of these are trade secrets that I will not reveal. But both are in Ero's bio. Erotica did not read the rules about being in Goons Sabriz? This is why she got burnt? Please Confirm. |

Herpy Space Moo
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
1
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Posted - 2014.02.02 23:55:00 -
[359] - Quote
Sabriz...? |

Sabriz Adoudel
Mission BLITZ
1929
|
Posted - 2014.02.03 00:03:00 -
[360] - Quote
Abrei-Kaii wrote: I must be missing something i'll have to look into it later, but I just saw where even the 1st play is illegal though. She is lucky to even had gotten the first play to be doubled :p
Yes, the first play broke one rule. This same rule was broken by all three payments (assuming that the person issuing the complaint is telling the truth, which Ero could answer but I will give them the benefit of the doubt).
Ero follows the letter of the rules like a laywer. The rules do not in any way prevent her paying out ISK to people where such a payment is not required by the rules.
I am surprised that noone has spotted the rule that the first payment obeyed but the third one did not.
By the way, Ero, have you considered a career IRL as a laywer? Your mastery of designing tricky small print would suit the career. And you could turn your internet philanthropy into RL good deeds by taking on cases touching on social justice. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=238931 - an idea for a new form of hybrid PVE/PVP content. If you want to mine in highsec outside rookie systems, obey the New Haliama Code of Conduct or else the New Order will gank you. www.minerbumping.com for more info. |

Herpy Space Moo
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
1
|
Posted - 2014.02.03 00:03:00 -
[361] - Quote
Sabriz, we are waiting for you to try and spout the spin. Do not disappoint us. |

Maximillian Stark
Aliastra Gallente Federation
141
|
Posted - 2014.02.03 07:04:00 -
[362] - Quote
Abrei-Kaii wrote:Sabriz Adoudel wrote:Abrei-Kaii wrote: Okay you may be right, but given rules the 2nd play is still illegal, because it had to be atleast 800m since she 'Just received' 400m. She only played 400m... So I ask you again, Explain to me how she got scammed again. And by the way the 3rd play at any amount would have been illegal based on the fact she received nothing for her first illegal play. 0x2 = 0.
By the way I'm not trying to make anyone look good. I even said in my 1st post in this thread that it seemed scammy to me. I'm just trying to get through your thick skull that this person 'wasn't scammed' because she did break the rules. Would she have been scammed regardless? Probably... But erotica1 does have an argument in this case.
I'll learn to read English when you learn simple math...
You are actually incorrect as to the third play. The third play did not violate the "must be at least double" rule. It did, however, violate two others. The details of these are trade secrets that I will not reveal. But both are in Ero's bio. I must be missing something i'll have to look into it later, but I just saw where even the 1st play is illegal though. She is lucky to even had gotten the first play to be doubled :p
I know you're not the smartest on this block but this admittal makes me have a little more faith in you, keep on going. Don't trust the scammer people, Sabriz aka. Erotica is trying too hard. It's not even fun. |

BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie
NEW ORDER DEATH DEALERS CODE.
206
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Posted - 2014.02.03 23:07:00 -
[363] - Quote
Sabriz is Ero's official spokeswoman now? I must have missed the memo. Ero has done a pretty decent job of speaking for herself in the past, and continues to do so. The rest of her supporters (and some neutral parties such as myself) feel it necessary to chime in to combat the libel in this thread. It would be impossible for a single person to answer every accusation levied against Erotica and other Jita business proprietors. New player resources: http://wiki.eveuniversity.org/Main_Page - General information http://www.evealtruist.com/p/know-your-enemy.html - Learn to PvP http://belligerentundesirables.com/ - Safaris, Awoxes, Ganking and Griefing-á |

Sabriz Adoudel
Mission BLITZ
1934
|
Posted - 2014.02.03 23:10:00 -
[364] - Quote
BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie wrote:Sabriz is Ero's official spokeswoman now? I must have missed the memo. Ero has done a pretty decent job of speaking for herself in the past, and continues to do so. The rest of her supporters (and some neutral parties such as myself) feel it necessary to chime in to combat the libel in this thread. It would be impossible for a single person to answer every accusation levied against Erotica and other Jita business proprietors.
I love it when people think I am Ero's alt. This thread would become hilariously embarassing if we were the same person, talking to ourselves like Gollum. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=238931 - an idea for a new form of hybrid PVE/PVP content. If you want to mine in highsec outside rookie systems, obey the New Haliama Code of Conduct or else the New Order will gank you. www.minerbumping.com for more info. |

Sabriz Adoudel
Mission BLITZ
1934
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Posted - 2014.02.03 23:17:00 -
[365] - Quote
Ero, you liking my post so quickly does NOT help with dispelling rumors that you are the Smeagol to my Gollum. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=238931 - an idea for a new form of hybrid PVE/PVP content. If you want to mine in highsec outside rookie systems, obey the New Haliama Code of Conduct or else the New Order will gank you. www.minerbumping.com for more info. |

Feleq Hakoke
Keep It Burning Stupid
0
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Posted - 2014.02.04 07:04:00 -
[366] - Quote
250mil sent, got 500mil back. 1bil sent, got no money back just evemail excuse about having to go.
Next day my (polite) evemails ignored, convo invite ignored, went offline straight after I sent "Would you be so kind and agree to my convo invite, please?" evemail.
Well, easy come easy go. I guess CODE. will enjoy some new catalysts :)
Just posting my testimonial to her thread just as she asked. |

Allas-Ruii
Beyond New Frontier
4
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Posted - 2014.02.05 00:49:00 -
[367] - Quote
Maximillian Stark wrote:Abrei-Kaii wrote:Sabriz Adoudel wrote:Abrei-Kaii wrote: Okay you may be right, but given rules the 2nd play is still illegal, because it had to be atleast 800m since she 'Just received' 400m. She only played 400m... So I ask you again, Explain to me how she got scammed again. And by the way the 3rd play at any amount would have been illegal based on the fact she received nothing for her first illegal play. 0x2 = 0.
By the way I'm not trying to make anyone look good. I even said in my 1st post in this thread that it seemed scammy to me. I'm just trying to get through your thick skull that this person 'wasn't scammed' because she did break the rules. Would she have been scammed regardless? Probably... But erotica1 does have an argument in this case.
I'll learn to read English when you learn simple math...
You are actually incorrect as to the third play. The third play did not violate the "must be at least double" rule. It did, however, violate two others. The details of these are trade secrets that I will not reveal. But both are in Ero's bio. I must be missing something i'll have to look into it later, but I just saw where even the 1st play is illegal though. She is lucky to even had gotten the first play to be doubled :p I know you're not the smartest on this block but this admittal makes me have a little more faith in you, keep on going. Don't trust the scammer people, Sabriz aka. Erotica is trying too hard. It's not even fun.
You only make yourself seem dumber and dumber everytime you post. Please continue making yourself look like an idiot, I find it cute :p |

Fi Gus
5
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Posted - 2014.02.10 08:13:00 -
[368] - Quote
moar plz
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Siegfried Cohenberg
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2014.02.11 12:45:00 -
[369] - Quote
http://i.imgur.com/Q1AdNng.png
regardless i'd still vouch that erotica 1 is a legit isk doubler anyone else in jita chat is just a straight up scammer |

Sylphy
TSOE Po1ice TSOE Consortium
35
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Posted - 2014.02.12 14:46:00 -
[370] - Quote
Siegfried Cohenberg wrote:http://i.imgur.com/Q1AdNng.png
regardless i'd still vouch that erotica 1 is a legit isk doubler anyone else in jita chat is just a straight up scammer
That ISK double only took 1 hour and 45 minutes to complete, during which time, you've spent 1.061.023.112,81 ISK.
Don't blame us if we don't imediately believe into your stories. It's common knowledge everyone defending Erotica with "proof" are Erotica's alts or corp buddies.
We all know s/he doesn't have any friends. That would actually require some compassion. Not to mention being a pathological liar doesn' t help either. |

Leto Thule
Sons of Retribution
395
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Posted - 2014.02.12 14:52:00 -
[371] - Quote
Why the hate? Killboard
https://zkillboard.com/character/90841161/ |

Siegfried Cohenberg
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
2
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Posted - 2014.02.12 15:53:00 -
[372] - Quote
Quote: That ISK double only took 1 hour and 45 minutes to complete, during which time, you've spent 1.061.023.112,81 ISK.
Don't blame us if we don't imediately believe into your stories. It's common knowledge everyone defending Erotica with "proof" are Erotica's alts or corp buddies.
We all know s/he doesn't have any friends. That would actually require some compassion. Not to mention being a pathological liar doesn' t help either.
damn you sound really salty. I'm not even in ero 1's corp or any related corp. I'm in an npc corp m8 I'm completely unrelated to ero 1. I can just spot an outstanding trustworthy entrepreneur when i see one |

Sabriz Adoudel
Mission BLITZ
2032
|
Posted - 2014.02.12 20:53:00 -
[373] - Quote
Sylphy wrote:Siegfried Cohenberg wrote:http://i.imgur.com/Q1AdNng.png
regardless i'd still vouch that erotica 1 is a legit isk doubler anyone else in jita chat is just a straight up scammer That ISK double only took 1 hour and 45 minutes to complete, during which time, you've spent 1.061.023.112,81 ISK. Don't blame us if we don't imediately believe into your stories. It's common knowledge everyone defending Erotica with "proof" are Erotica's alts or corp buddies. We all know s/he doesn't have any friends. That would actually require some compassion. Not to mention being a pathological liar doesn' t help either.
I have never been in a corp with Erotica 1, nor am I her alt. (This thread would really descend into Smeagol/Gollum levels of insanity if I was her alt, look at the conversations we've had). https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=238931 - an idea for a new form of hybrid PVE/PVP content. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=318489 - Proposal for a new type of tech 2 Destroyer If you want to mine in highsec, read www.minerbumping.com. |

Abe Atlas
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
77
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Posted - 2014.02.12 22:53:00 -
[374] - Quote
Sabriz Adoudel wrote:Sylphy wrote:Siegfried Cohenberg wrote:http://i.imgur.com/Q1AdNng.png
regardless i'd still vouch that erotica 1 is a legit isk doubler anyone else in jita chat is just a straight up scammer That ISK double only took 1 hour and 45 minutes to complete, during which time, you've spent 1.061.023.112,81 ISK. Don't blame us if we don't imediately believe into your stories. It's common knowledge everyone defending Erotica with "proof" are Erotica's alts or corp buddies. We all know s/he doesn't have any friends. That would actually require some compassion. Not to mention being a pathological liar doesn' t help either. I have never been in a corp with Erotica 1, nor am I her alt. (This thread would really descend into Smeagol/Gollum levels of insanity if I was her alt, look at the conversations we've had).
Which is exactly why you're so pathetic. |

Sabriz Adoudel
Mission BLITZ
2034
|
Posted - 2014.02.12 23:53:00 -
[375] - Quote
Abe Atlas wrote: Which is exactly why you're so pathetic.
Please keep personal attacks out of this thread.
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=238931 - an idea for a new form of hybrid PVE/PVP content. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=318489 - Proposal for a new type of tech 2 Destroyer If you want to mine in highsec, read www.minerbumping.com. |

Erotica 1
Krypteia Operations CODE.
3657
|
Posted - 2014.02.14 06:00:00 -
[376] - Quote
Today's 100th client is playing right now. The event is being livestreamed by one of the escrow agents.
Will he win?
http://www.twitch.tv/kristallnachte/
See Bio for isk doubling rules. If you didn't read bio, chances are you funded those who did. |

Sabriz Adoudel
Mission BLITZ
2044
|
Posted - 2014.02.14 06:18:00 -
[377] - Quote
I hope so, it's been a while since we've had a 20b+ payout, and they are great publicity.
Wish I wasn't at work, so that I could watch it. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=238931 - an idea for a new form of hybrid PVE/PVP content. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=318489 - Proposal for a new type of tech 2 Destroyer If you want to mine in highsec, read www.minerbumping.com. |

Batelle
Komm susser Tod
1744
|
Posted - 2014.02.14 06:39:00 -
[378] - Quote
Sabriz Adoudel wrote:I hope so, it's been a while since we've had a 20b+ payout, and they are great publicity.
Wish I wasn't at work, so that I could watch it.
Has there ever been any proof of anyone getting such a payout? And by anyone, I mean like real people that have left their fingerprints all over killboards, forums, corps. I mean, there were supposedly gobs of proof about GMs reimbursing skillpoints of that one guy, but after days of forum sperging, not a shred was ever provided.
The rules (at least the ones in the bio) aren't that complicated either, its pretty obvious where the tricks are, and its pretty obvious which tricks are intended to be obvious. I won't deny they're well crafted, but making them out to be more than they are is just smoke and mirrors to disarm the wary. The moment you think you've got them figured out and you can "win," is the moment you've been played for a fool.
Also, podding the gullible in alpha clones is probably the cruelest thing I've ever heard of in this game. If you like, you can take that as a compliment. "CCP is changing policy, and has asked that we discontinue the bonus credit program after November 7th. So until then, enjoy a super-bonus of 1B Blink Credit for each 60-day GTC you buy!"
Never forget. |

Erotica 1
Krypteia Operations CODE.
3658
|
Posted - 2014.02.14 06:45:00 -
[379] - Quote
Batelle wrote:Sabriz Adoudel wrote:I hope so, it's been a while since we've had a 20b+ payout, and they are great publicity.
Wish I wasn't at work, so that I could watch it. Has there ever been any proof of anyone getting such a payout? And by anyone, I mean like real people that have left their fingerprints all over killboards, forums, and corp histories (and also never sold). I mean, there were supposedly gobs of proof about GMs reimbursing skillpoints of that one guy, but after days of forum sperging, not a shred was ever forthcoming. The rules (at least the ones in the bio) aren't that complicated either, its pretty obvious where the tricks are, and its pretty obvious which tricks are intended to be obvious. I won't deny they're well crafted, but making them out to be more than they are is just smoke and mirrors to disarm the wary. The moment you think you've got them figured out and you can "win," is the moment you've been played for a fool. Also, podding the gullible in alpha clones is probably the cruelest thing I've ever heard of in this game. If you like, you can take that as a compliment.
yep See Bio for isk doubling rules. If you didn't read bio, chances are you funded those who did. |

Batelle
Komm susser Tod
1744
|
Posted - 2014.02.14 06:54:00 -
[380] - Quote
Erotica 1 wrote: yep
*edit* api in your inbox. I won't discuss Heavy Rayne in the forums after CCP's final decision.
Thanks. I'll just take on faith that he was at one point reduced to way lower SP than it shows now. I never actually doubted that particular story for a minute, btw. "CCP is changing policy, and has asked that we discontinue the bonus credit program after November 7th. So until then, enjoy a super-bonus of 1B Blink Credit for each 60-day GTC you buy!"
Never forget. |

Erotica 1
Krypteia Operations CODE.
3658
|
Posted - 2014.02.14 06:56:00 -
[381] - Quote
Batelle wrote:Erotica 1 wrote: yep
*edit* api in your inbox. I won't discuss Heavy Rayne in the forums after CCP's final decision.
Thanks. I'll just take on faith that he was at one point reduced to way lower SP than it shows now. I never actually doubted that particular story for a minute, btw.
you don't need faith, you have the api *wink. See Bio for isk doubling rules. If you didn't read bio, chances are you funded those who did. |

Divine Entervention
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
22
|
Posted - 2014.02.14 18:52:00 -
[382] - Quote
scam |

Erotica 1
Krypteia Operations CODE.
3670
|
Posted - 2014.02.14 18:56:00 -
[383] - Quote
Divine Entervention wrote:scam
Says the guy who can't spell his own name. See Bio for isk doubling rules. If you didn't read bio, chances are you funded those who did. |

Divine Entervention
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
22
|
Posted - 2014.02.14 19:00:00 -
[384] - Quote
Erotica 1 wrote:Divine Entervention wrote:scam Says the guy who can't spell his own name.
I'd rathar have setonces filed with speling erors then be a scamer. |

Plastic Psycho
Necro-Economics
1264
|
Posted - 2014.02.14 22:20:00 -
[385] - Quote
Divine Entervention wrote:Erotica 1 wrote:Divine Entervention wrote:scam Says the guy who can't spell his own name. I'd rathar have setonces filed with speling erors then be a scamer. Congratulations. Mission accomplished. |
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