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Hello all,

Great game. Have studied hard and am doing very well i think as a new player.
Am in high sec as a solo "carebear" and i'll tell u several reasons why.

Analysing corps for joining and taking into account all of the alts this game has, it is hard to trust certain criteria corps. You join a corp, then their alts take u out in that corp, corp loses members and the cycle begins again.
Even though i'm new, it didnt take long for a pattern to emerge.
Wardec histories and alliance statistics give certain red flags for me.
One point for NPC corps.

When i did find great newer/younger corps to join that really wanted to make a go of it, they are being wardecced at every opportunity.
Again another point for npc corps.

End result for new players, when in high sec can mine, do missions, epics, and have a great npc crew to talk to without the hassle of wardecs. They can actually get things done and build without having to "rebuild" on a weekly basis.
There are public mining fleets with orcas, where we all work together, we help each other in missions and other matters, just like a player corp.
The willingness and determination is out there amongst new players/corps in eve.
Another point for npc corps.

My suggestion, have high sec (1.0,0.9) areas free of wardecs on corps. Conditions apply for corps to move out of that sector for re-establishment and integration into eve; once having reached said amount of members or timeframe.
These conditions will motivate the corps to hire, train and succeed to move on. Plus ur getting good operational new corps into eve environment.

Why, well once established and new players/corps get some knowledge, then wardecs would be appropriate, and at that time bigger corps can add them as an alliance.
This would enhance better stability for new players, as the learning curve is steep enough in eve.

AND, for you pvpr's the wardecs would be more juicy looking corps, and wont make u look so bad going after eve players who know nothing, lol. Seriously, anyone proud of a defenseless miner kill record is a waste of human skin, lol.

Again, am new, and just relaying what my observations are so far.
Your points and views would be appreciated.


Thank you kindly

My suggestion, have high sec (1.0,0.9) areas free of wardecs on corps.

Hello all,

Great game. Have studied hard and am doing very well i think as a new player.
Am in high sec as a solo "carebear" and i'll tell u several reasons why.

Analysing corps for joining and taking into account all of the alts this game has, it is hard to trust certain criteria corps. You join a corp, then their alts take u out in that corp, corp loses members and the cycle begins again.
Even though i'm new, it didnt take long for a pattern to emerge.
Wardec histories and alliance statistics give certain red flags for me.
One point for NPC corps.

When i did find great newer/younger corps to join that really wanted to make a go of it, they are being wardecced at every opportunity.
Again another point for npc corps.

End result for new players, when in high sec can mine, do missions, epics, and have a great npc crew to talk to without the hassle of wardecs. They can actually get things done and build without having to "rebuild" on a weekly basis.
There are public mining fleets with orcas, where we all work together, we help each other in missions and other matters, just like a player corp.
The willingness and determination is out there amongst new players/corps in eve.
Another point for npc corps.

My suggestion, have high sec (1.0,0.9) areas free of wardecs on corps. Conditions apply for corps to move out of that sector for re-establishment and integration into eve; once having reached said amount of members or timeframe.
These conditions will motivate the corps to hire, train and succeed to move on. Plus ur getting good operational new corps into eve environment.

Why, well once established and new players/corps get some knowledge, then wardecs would be appropriate, and at that time bigger corps can add them as an alliance.
This would enhance better stability for new players, as the learning curve is steep enough in eve.

AND, for you pvpr's the wardecs would be more juicy looking corps, and wont make u look so bad going after eve players who know nothing, lol. Seriously, anyone proud of a defenseless miner kill record is a waste of human skin, lol.

Again, am new, and just relaying what my observations are so far.
Your points and views would be appreciated.


Thank you kindly

Is there not a general consensus about too many new corps?

Stopped reading when you said you are a 'solo carebear'.
why play a massive multiplayer game solo?

OP...

The problem with your idea is that every part of the game competes and affects with every other area of the game. Miners who ply their trade in high-sec indirectly affect the economy in deep null-sec.

If you create a "safe zone" (which is what your idea will eventually lead to if we follow the "slippery slope" to its eventual conclusion) then you are basically making an area of the game where you are allowed to affect everyone else without being adversely affected yourself.
At this point you are no longer playing a "sandbox" game.


And those veterans you briefly talked about in your OP? The ones using alts in corps to kill you and other new players? What will stop them from creating new alts/accounts to conduct their business in these "safe zones" themselves? They will effectively be "safe" to fund and provide logistical support to their people in the rest of the game without being in much danger themselves.

"Starter systems" already have exceptional "unofficial" rules and they do exactly what they need to and nothing more. No need to expand this.

Stopped reading when you said you are a 'solo carebear'.
why play a massive multiplayer game solo?

Would we all not want everyone to move out of highsec into low sec and beyond to enjoy the rest of eve?

Stopped reading when you said you are a 'solo carebear'.
why play a massive multiplayer game solo?

NPC Corp member trying to talk authoritatively about player run corps.

He's just saying why he's put off applying to player corps at the moment. Which makes sense if his only experience is with terri...inexperienced and ineffective player corps.

Yup, two things are killing EVE

NPC corps
Badly run player corps.

Surely you are being sarcastic.

NPC's are a necessity.

Badly run player corps fail and vanish.

I see no problems.

Badly run player corps give new players a BAD first impression. Thats a problem for new player retention.

NPC corps need to be nerfed, period. The only advantage player corps really have over NPC corps is being able to anchor a POS, adjustable taxes, alliances and corp hangers.

There should be major limits to things such as manufacturing and mineral refining that can be done from players in NPC corps. I'm not getting into details since it's a toptic that has been brought up MANY times.