OP, let me tell you what happened to me so it doesn't happen to you.

I didn't forget to update my clone. Yet I lost a good bit of skill points anyway. What happened was, I had a long skill training. When skills train, apparently the skill point counter doesn't stay current. I kept checking the counter, and my clone seemed fine. But it wasn't, because unbeknownst to me, my skills had surpassed my clone's ability to preserve them because of this... bug... feature... whatever it is. So I died, lost skill points, filed a petition, didn't get reimbursed.

Long story short, if you have a skill training as you always should, PAUSE THE TRAINING to get the updated skill point count.

Anyway, I didn't quit after this debacle, and arguably the loss wasn't even my fault because I did my due diligence in checking my clone. So don't quit, just hang in there and get back in the saddle again. It has happened to us all.

The thing that gets me is i dont see anyone choosing to take a lower clone. When you undock you are risking what ever your flying and when it dies it was your choice but skill losses are only mistakes never choices.

I hope CCP devs extract something useful from this.

Clones and SP lost after death. I've dabbled in PVP and had a real go at faction warfare in the last few weeks. However, being a PVP noob I routinely die and lose the occasional pod. On two occasions I've forgotten to update my clone after death and I've now been set back 20+ days in training. Is this feature necessary? After death, I expect most pilots will be eager to re-enter the fight but forget to fulfill this arbitrary mechanic. Is this isk-sink worthwhile at the expense of disheartened subscribers who leave?

At this point I'm looking at almost a month of re-training. Since this may happen again, I just don't want to put up with this risk.

Two kinds of eve players:

1. Those who play for a few weeks to maybe a month. Quit and never to be seen again.
2. Those who play for about 3-6 months, are hooked for life.

Either youll be 1 and we will never see you again or youll be 2 and I will see you back soon.

Making death more meaningful would help retain players. Catering for mentally deficient 12 year olds that need hand holding throughout the entire game is what would kill this game.

Make pod death meaningful, have it erase the harddrive of whatever is running the Eve client at the time.

Like permadeath?

If you want something meaningful don't pussyfoot around, make it hurt.

But can't have what really hurts right? So make amends and just huff and puff about being tough instead.

:shakes head:

Like permadeath?

If you want something meaningful don't pussyfoot around, make it hurt.

But can't have what really hurts right? So make amends and just huff and puff about being tough instead.

:shakes head:

Make pod death meaningful, have it erase the harddrive of whatever is running the Eve client at the time.

Permadeath is a stupid idea as you lose every inch of progression you've made with your character in one instant. So I guess you were just being ret@rded there.

Permanent death would be the only mechanic really harsh but "they" don't want it. That's why they play Eve online and claim to be uber tough instead of playing games with real consequences for actions. (Lineage II ho noes too hard and there's no space ships...)

They don't want neither to get SP loss when killed by concord. They just want Concord protection instead of getting a real pair and move on to null, instead it's blob excuse here blob excuse there carebears are all pussies etc etc etc. We know who are the pussies and the majority of those are not high sec carebears.

They don't want neither to see OGB go permanently and definitively away, the day this will happen I'll get my self drunk reading forum tears from them, ho hell I'll be trolling them hard until I get forum banned.

They want T3 frigates with heavy cruiser HP and Pirate cruisers DPS.

Nothing new, same old rabble, same rage quitting pussies as soon as something that touches their tr+ál+ál+á changes etc etc.

Killing a pod should be the ultimate means of destroying a player. Then ransoms and bounties would actually mean something, and killing your most hated opponents pod would be all the more savoured, and also would actually give you an in game benefit over the players by reducing their SP.

Eve would just be a much better and improved game if there were more consequences for losing your pod, I think it was a big mistake for CCP to go back on this general principle.

Permadeath is a stupid idea as you lose every inch of progression you've made with your character in one instant. So I guess you were just being ret@rded there.

Yeah it is so bad an idea that is why CCPs next MMO World of Darkness has permadeath...

Killing a pod should be the ultimate means of destroying a player. Then ransoms and bounties would actually mean something, and killing your most hated opponents pod would be all the more savored, and also would actually give you an in game benefit over the players by deleting their character.

Eve would just be a much better and improved game if there were more consequences for losing your pod, I think it was a big mistake for CCP to go back on this general principle.

/it's fun picking an arbitrary line and saying everything on one side of it is carebear no consequence, everything on the other side is stupid

That's complete bull.

Making a checkbox for automatic updating or having a reminder for updating it
COMPLETELY REMOVES THE WHOLE POINT OF HAVING TO UPDATE IN THE FIRST PLACE !

I myself liked BattleCruiser V so much, i've skilled it two times !
Did i complain ? No !


Those who can't deal with it ... well ... too bad, gtfo !

You seem to be angry...late with school homework or drunk?

Hmm, you are shouting, so I shall go with drunk.

I hope CCP devs extract something useful from this.

Clones and SP lost after death. I've dabbled in PVP and had a real go at faction warfare in the last few weeks. However, being a PVP noob I routinely die and lose the occasional pod. On two occasions I've forgotten to update my clone after death and I've now been set back 20+ days in training. Is this feature necessary? After death, I expect most pilots will be eager to re-enter the fight but forget to fulfill this arbitrary mechanic. Is this isk-sink worthwhile at the expense of disheartened subscribers who leave?

At this point I'm looking at almost a month of re-training. Since this may happen again, I just don't want to put up with this risk.

Thread moved to Out Of the Pod Experience, because that is where quit threads like to live.