Originally by: Vee Bot

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so if CCP boost it so its not the worst anymore will you start a thread asking to boost the next worst gun?

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Originally by: j0sephine

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"125 IIs (the railgun) do more dps on a wolf than 250 IIs(which gets a 25% damage bonus!!), for less fitting. 75mm gatling rails do about 3% less dps on a wolf than 250 IIs (which get a 25% damage bonus!!) for only 2 grid."

Yup; try to fire these hybrid guns with nos on you, though... and consider that on the mentioned Wolf the 250 II will have ~50% bigger optimal than the 125mm tech.2 rail, and double the optimal of 75mm tech.2 rail. If you swap the ammo in rails to match that better range, i believe you'll see damage numbers come far closer within one another.

(fitting are probably on the bit too high side for the damage these things do, though)

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Originally by: DrunkenOne

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Yes, 250s do have their place. That place is the worst gun in the game.

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Originally by: j0sephine

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Edited by: j0sephine on 07/09/2005 16:18:47

"jo i was simply making a point, I wasn't actually suggesting fitting rails over 250s on a wolf, just that the rails would actually do more damage, which is ridiculous, considering that the wolf gets a damage bonus for 250s, and they use similar (same? too lazy) grid."

Well the 250's suck bad damage-wise, i'll give you that ^^ with the other (small) turrets the damage difference between 'best' and 'second best' is very small, and the penalty is reduced range... but the 250mm artillery guns have something like 10% less dps than 280's, on top of the shorter range. It doesn't really make much sense like that :/

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Originally by: Bracius

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The XXXXX has established itself as one
of the most feared and respected
battleships around. Since its first
appearance almost two decades ago it has
seen considerable service in the
troublesome regions on the outskirts of the
Federation, helping to expand and defend
Gallentean influence there.

Too bad that none of this is true.


Or maybe:
HEAVY NEUTRON BLASTER:
Particle blasters operate on a similar principle
as the railgun except they fire a magnetically
contained ball of subatomic particles. No other
turret class can match the sheer destructive
power of particle blasters, but due to the
rapid dispersion of the containment field, it
also has the worst range of all turrets.

Should add:
Too bad it doesn't fit on any gallente cruiser.

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Originally by: HippoKing

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and the description on the cerbereus to:

"This missile-spitting abomination is a very expensive way to commit sucide"

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Originally by: Frezik

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There's one place where 250 II's work: when you don't have enough cpu on your claw to fit 3x280 II's. If your choice is between 3x250s and 2x280s, then the 250 fitting will give you better DOT (though not as good range, IIRC).

But this can be fixed with only a few weeks of skill training, and it's 280s from then on.

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Originally by: Nafri

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Originally by: Frezik

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There's one place where 250 II's work: when you don't have enough cpu on your claw to fit 3x280 II's. If your choice is between 3x250s and 2x280s, then the 250 fitting will give you better DOT (though not as good range, IIRC).

But this can be fixed with only a few weeks of skill training, and it's 280s from then on.

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then better fir 200mm autocannons

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Originally by: Agnar Koladrov

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Originally by: Nafri

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Originally by: Frezik

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There's one place where 250 II's work: when you don't have enough cpu on your claw to fit 3x280 II's. If your choice is between 3x250s and 2x280s, then the 250 fitting will give you better DOT (though not as good range, IIRC).

But this can be fixed with only a few weeks of skill training, and it's 280s from then on.

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then better fir 200mm autocannons

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Not everyone likes autocannons

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Originally by: Agnar Koladrov

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Originally by: Nafri

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Originally by: Frezik

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There's one place where 250 II's work: when you don't have enough cpu on your claw to fit 3x280 II's. If your choice is between 3x250s and 2x280s, then the 250 fitting will give you better DOT (though not as good range, IIRC).

But this can be fixed with only a few weeks of skill training, and it's 280s from then on.

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then better fir 200mm autocannons

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stay at 8km and use your falloff, should give you better damage
Not everyone likes autocannons

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Originally by: DrunkenOne

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Originally by: Agil Scout

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250's are great in a gang and thats it, wreking for 280+ againts most ships upto 25k great for the killmail ***** who dont like to move far from the gate.

AC is where it's at.

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No, they arent. 250s are the worst gun in the game, please stop spreading lies that they dont suck. 125 IIs (the railgun) do more dps on a wolf than 250 IIs(which gets a 25% damage bonus!!), for less fitting. 75mm gatling rails do about 3% less dps on a wolf than 250 IIs (which get a 25% damage bonus!!) for only 2 grid.

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