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 Zan Tu    |
Posted - 2005.09.06 01:03:00 -
[31]
Its a VERY tuff item to come by, I consider myself very lucky. The cyber V is whats keeping me from plugging in now. Im a miner/trader and Ive been scoffed at for even the 250m price (when others are selling it on escrow for 450-500m) I don't think its outrageous, given those comparisons If I don't sell it by the time ive trained to V, its getting plugged up.. Zan |
 Zan Tu |
Posted - 2005.09.06 01:03:00 -
[32]
Its a VERY tuff item to come by, I consider myself very lucky. The cyber V is whats keeping me from plugging in now. Im a miner/trader and Ive been scoffed at for even the 250m price (when others are selling it on escrow for 450-500m) I don't think its outrageous, given those comparisons If I don't sell it by the time ive trained to V, its getting plugged up.. Zan "R&D Lottery: A Tax on people with poor math skills..." |
 sonofollo |
Posted - 2005.09.06 20:42:00 -
[33] mmmm suddenly said agent becomes very popular lol. 200m sounds like a fair and reasonable price for those with excess ISK |
 sonofollo Caldari Doomheim |
Posted - 2005.09.06 20:42:00 -
[34] mmmm suddenly said agent becomes very popular lol. 200m sounds like a fair and reasonable price for those with excess ISK Im a happy little camper now - CCP 4tw. |
 Matthew |
Posted - 2005.09.07 11:38:00 -
[35] The key thing to remember with this implant is that the more you pay for it, the longer it takes to pay for itself. Now, if you're going for this, it's fair to assume you're a serious miner, so I'm going to assume you're mining with a large barge with modulated strip miners and the appropriate T2 mining crystals, and all skills maxed. Which gives you yields of: Without implant: 1132m3/min With implant: 1188.6m3/min So the implant is giving you 56.6m3/min of ore as payback. The exact time to payback the 400mill investment depends on the ore you're mining. If you decide to stick to empire cause you've suddenly got a hugely valuable head, then the best you can do is Omber at approx 150isk/m3. That means the implant is generating: 150*56.6 = 8490isk/min 400mill/8490 = 785 hours payback time. That's nearly 33 days of miner-active time. Now, if we assume you have a life outside eve, so only play a max of 6 hours a day, that means it'll be 4 months before you make back in ore what you spent on the implant. And that's just miner-active time, you've still got hauling time etc on top of that. Now, lets go for the best possible case, of arkonor at approx 700isk/m3. You're then generating: 700*56.6 = 39620 isk/min 400mill/39620 = 168 hours payback time. That's 7 days of miner time. On 6 hour days, that means payback in a month, plus hauling times. Of course to do that, you have to be confident that you can survive mining in deep 0.0 for a month without being podded once. In my opinion, current prices make this implant a status symbol rather than a viable business investment. Prices would have to drop to around 150mill before I'd consider it a viable business purchase. Beware those beyond here, for they cannot see evil. |
 Matthew Caldari BloodStar Technologies |
Posted - 2005.09.07 11:38:00 -
[36] The key thing to remember with this implant is that the more you pay for it, the longer it takes to pay for itself. Now, if you're going for this, it's fair to assume you're a serious miner, so I'm going to assume you're mining with a large barge with modulated strip miners and the appropriate T2 mining crystals, and all skills maxed. Which gives you yields of: Without implant: 1132m3/min With implant: 1188.6m3/min So the implant is giving you 56.6m3/min of ore as payback. The exact time to payback the 400mill investment depends on the ore you're mining. If you decide to stick to empire cause you've suddenly got a hugely valuable head, then the best you can do is Omber at approx 150isk/m3. That means the implant is generating: 150*56.6 = 8490isk/min 400mill/8490 = 785 hours payback time. That's nearly 33 days of miner-active time. Now, if we assume you have a life outside eve, so only play a max of 6 hours a day, that means it'll be 4 months before you make back in ore what you spent on the implant. And that's just miner-active time, you've still got hauling time etc on top of that. Now, lets go for the best possible case, of arkonor at approx 700isk/m3. You're then generating: 700*56.6 = 39620 isk/min 400mill/39620 = 168 hours payback time. That's 7 days of miner time. On 6 hour days, that means payback in a month, plus hauling times. Of course to do that, you have to be confident that you can survive mining in deep 0.0 for a month without being podded once. In my opinion, current prices make this implant a status symbol rather than a viable business investment. Prices would have to drop to around 150mill before I'd consider it a viable business purchase. ------- There is no magic Wand of Fixing, and it is not powered by forum whines. |
 Ricdic |
Posted - 2005.09.07 18:09:00 -
[37] Edited by: Ricdic on 07/09/2005 18:10:19 Nice post, disregard before my edit. I re-read mathews post, and understand what he is explaining now. ------------------------------------------ Dreadnought Production INC is recruiting Join DPI Channel Or Visit (IGB) http://www.mmorpg-online.net/intro.html |
 Ricdic Caldari Corporate Research And Production Pty Ltd Zzz |
Posted - 2005.09.07 18:09:00 -
[38] Edited by: Ricdic on 07/09/2005 18:10:19 Nice post, disregard before my edit. I re-read mathews post, and understand what he is explaining now. Sick of the waits with empire research slots? Use mine! |
sonofollo |
Posted - 2005.09.07 23:48:00 -
[39] the above is a key bit of advice - its a status symbol and not a ISK generator unless more players use this agent and more are dropped then prices fall and it becomes more value adding |
sonofollo Caldari Doomheim |
Posted - 2005.09.07 23:48:00 -
[40] the above is a key bit of advice - its a status symbol and not a ISK generator unless more players use this agent and more are dropped then prices fall and it becomes more value adding Im a happy little camper now - CCP 4tw. |
 ashimo |
Posted - 2007.05.12 08:50:00 -
[41] found this on a different thread Go to Otomainen system. Warp to Rusty Ridge Mine Speak to Zabon Michi who will offer (1 of 3 Lost Love) Go to Contested Gurista Complex in same system and head to second stage. Kill Manchura who spawns in a Cruiser and collect his tag Return to Zabon and collect prize Speak to Zabonn again and accept (2 of 3 Lost Love) Run a 6 stage ultra high damage mission in which your objective is to capture Wei Todaki. Bring her back to Agent Speak to Zabonn Michi to accept (3 of 3 Lost Love) Bring Wei Todaki 7 jumps and deposit in station. Speak to Zabon remotely to pick up: Michis Mining Augmentor x 1 Improved "Guise" cloaking Device x 1 Possible Cosmos BPC (random) tough lvl 4 agent  |
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