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Lurtz
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Posted - 2005.09.04 19:00:00 - [1]

ok... seen a few on escrow, at 400-450m

where do they come from if I want to go get my own?
if it is an LP offer, how many lp and what corp or faction?
if it is a cosmos reward, what agent to start with?
if Michi is an officer, where does he fly around?

any info would be helpful

Thanks

Lurtz
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Posted - 2005.09.04 19:00:00 - [2]

ok... seen a few on escrow, at 400-450m

where do they come from if I want to go get my own?
if it is an LP offer, how many lp and what corp or faction?
if it is a cosmos reward, what agent to start with?
if Michi is an officer, where does he fly around?

any info would be helpful

Thanks

Sno Wite
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Posted - 2005.09.05 01:35:00 - [3]

LOL

If there's 400 to 450 mil to be made per item, what makes you think that anybody is going to share information about it with you?

It's a cruel selfish world in here, get used to it.


Zan Tu
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Posted - 2005.09.05 01:35:00 - [4]



Ive got one, ill sell ya for 250m

Ive sen those 400-500mil ones on escrow....outrageous.


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Zan Tu
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Posted - 2005.09.05 01:35:00 - [5]



Ive got one, ill sell ya for 250m

Ive sen those 400-500mil ones on escrow....outrageous.


Mail me in game if interested. Forge area, Secure space.

Zan



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Posted - 2005.09.05 01:35:00 - [6]

LOL

If there's 400 to 450 mil to be made per item, what makes you think that anybody is going to share information about it with you?

It's a cruel selfish world in here, get used to it.


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Posted - 2005.09.05 02:49:00 - [7]

Originally by: Sno Wite
LOL

If there's 400 to 450 mil to be made per item, what makes you think that anybody is going to share information about it with you?

It's a cruel selfish world in here, get used to it.




It's a helpful community.

Not all members are as self absorbed as you.

I'm sure the answer will come along.
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Posted - 2005.09.05 02:49:00 - [8]

Originally by: Sno Wite
LOL

If there's 400 to 450 mil to be made per item, what makes you think that anybody is going to share information about it with you?

It's a cruel selfish world in here, get used to it.




It's a helpful community.

Not all members are as self absorbed as you.

I'm sure the answer will come along.
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Posted - 2005.09.05 04:16:00 - [9]

Edited by: SengH on 05/09/2005 04:17:04
my random guess... a l4 important multipart kill mission/hauling mission from a mining agent or pirate l4 mining important mission.
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Posted - 2005.09.05 04:16:00 - [10]

Edited by: SengH on 05/09/2005 04:17:04
my random guess... a l4 important multipart kill mission/hauling mission from a mining agent or pirate l4 mining important mission.
Lurtz
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Posted - 2005.09.05 07:32:00 - [11]

Originally by: Sno Wite
LOL

If there's 400 to 450 mil to be made per item, what makes you think that anybody is going to share information about it with you?

It's a cruel selfish world in here, get used to it.




well obviously as a noob with less than 6 months in game you don' know me, and aren't one of the literally 100s of people i've help in the last 2 years. Don't know who put you off on the game, but there are good, friendly people in here. If you don't know, no need to post. But thanks for the bump.


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Posted - 2005.09.05 07:32:00 - [12]

Originally by: Sno Wite
LOL

If there's 400 to 450 mil to be made per item, what makes you think that anybody is going to share information about it with you?

It's a cruel selfish world in here, get used to it.




well obviously as a noob with less than 6 months in game you don' know me, and aren't one of the literally 100s of people i've help in the last 2 years. Don't know who put you off on the game, but there are good, friendly people in here. If you don't know, no need to post. But thanks for the bump.


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Posted - 2005.09.05 09:40:00 - [13]

And what is that item, it sounds like a miner named Confused
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Posted - 2005.09.05 09:40:00 - [14]

And what is that item, it sounds like a miner named Confused
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Linia
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Posted - 2005.09.05 10:57:00 - [15]

If im not wrong its the +5% mining thing implant :)

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Posted - 2005.09.05 10:57:00 - [16]

If im not wrong its the +5% mining thing implant :)
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Posted - 2005.09.05 11:22:00 - [17]

brought in in the last patch i think - very rare would be a storyline or a high end agent offer - to be worth 400m at this stage would indicate if LP offer would come in range of 40,000-65000 LP
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Posted - 2005.09.05 11:22:00 - [18]

brought in in the last patch i think - very rare would be a storyline or a high end agent offer - to be worth 400m at this stage would indicate if LP offer would come in range of 40,000-65000 LP
Im a happy little camper now - CCP 4tw.
Michi Noketsuna
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Posted - 2005.09.05 11:47:00 - [19]

Public notice:

I will not drop such an implant when podded.

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Posted - 2005.09.05 11:47:00 - [20]

Public notice:

I will not drop such an implant when podded.

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Posted - 2005.09.05 13:53:00 - [21]

Originally by: Michi Noketsuna
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I will not drop such an implant when podded.

CoolCoolCool

Awww just when I had a whole bunch of locator agents tracking your every move......Crying or Very sadWink
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Posted - 2005.09.05 13:53:00 - [22]

Originally by: Michi Noketsuna
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I will not drop such an implant when podded.

CoolCoolCool

Awww just when I had a whole bunch of locator agents tracking your every move......Crying or Very sadWink
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Posted - 2005.09.05 15:14:00 - [23]

The implant was in before COSMOS patch BTW.
Wish I had bought the one I saw for 125 mil. *sighs*

Other then this, I have no idea, and I wish I did.

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Posted - 2005.09.05 15:14:00 - [24]

The implant was in before COSMOS patch BTW.
Wish I had bought the one I saw for 125 mil. *sighs*

Other then this, I have no idea, and I wish I did.



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Lurtz
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Posted - 2005.09.05 16:02:00 - [25]

Originally by: Zan Tu


Ive got one, ill sell ya for 250m

Ive sen those 400-500mil ones on escrow....outrageous.


Mail me in game if interested. Forge area, Secure space.

Zan



tempting..... very tempting, but as I don't have cybernetics 5 trained up yet, and won't for a little while, I'm really more interested in getting it myself, than buying it now and letting it sit in my hanger till then.


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Posted - 2005.09.05 16:02:00 - [26]

Originally by: Zan Tu


Ive got one, ill sell ya for 250m

Ive sen those 400-500mil ones on escrow....outrageous.


Mail me in game if interested. Forge area, Secure space.

Zan



tempting..... very tempting, but as I don't have cybernetics 5 trained up yet, and won't for a little while, I'm really more interested in getting it myself, than buying it now and letting it sit in my hanger till then.


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Posted - 2005.09.05 17:26:00 - [27]

There is an agent called Zabon Michi. A crazy old coot, last I heard he was hauled up somewhere in the Okkelen constellation.
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Posted - 2005.09.05 17:26:00 - [28]

There is an agent called Zabon Michi. A crazy old coot, last I heard he was hauled up somewhere in the Okkelen constellation.
Lurtz
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Posted - 2005.09.05 17:37:00 - [29]

Originally by: Zrakor
There is an agent called Zabon Michi. A crazy old coot, last I heard he was hauled up somewhere in the Okkelen constellation.


ah... Michi is the last name... no wonder I didn't see it when I searched for agents... thanks Zrakor


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Posted - 2005.09.05 17:37:00 - [30]

Originally by: Zrakor
There is an agent called Zabon Michi. A crazy old coot, last I heard he was hauled up somewhere in the Okkelen constellation.


ah... Michi is the last name... no wonder I didn't see it when I searched for agents... thanks Zrakor


Zan Tu
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Posted - 2005.09.06 01:03:00 - [31]

Originally by: Lurtz
Originally by: Zan Tu


Ive got one, ill sell ya for 250m

Ive sen those 400-500mil ones on escrow....outrageous.


Mail me in game if interested. Forge area, Secure space.

Zan



tempting..... very tempting, but as I don't have cybernetics 5 trained up yet, and won't for a little while, I'm really more interested in getting it myself, than buying it now and letting it sit in my hanger till then.





Its a VERY tuff item to come by, I consider myself very lucky.

The cyber V is whats keeping me from plugging in now. Im a miner/trader and Ive been scoffed at for even the 250m price (when others are selling it on escrow for 450-500m) I don't think its outrageous, given those comparisons

If I don't sell it by the time ive trained to V, its getting plugged up..


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Posted - 2005.09.06 01:03:00 - [32]

Originally by: Lurtz
Originally by: Zan Tu


Ive got one, ill sell ya for 250m

Ive sen those 400-500mil ones on escrow....outrageous.


Mail me in game if interested. Forge area, Secure space.

Zan



tempting..... very tempting, but as I don't have cybernetics 5 trained up yet, and won't for a little while, I'm really more interested in getting it myself, than buying it now and letting it sit in my hanger till then.





Its a VERY tuff item to come by, I consider myself very lucky.

The cyber V is whats keeping me from plugging in now. Im a miner/trader and Ive been scoffed at for even the 250m price (when others are selling it on escrow for 450-500m) I don't think its outrageous, given those comparisons

If I don't sell it by the time ive trained to V, its getting plugged up..


Zan



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sonofollo
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Posted - 2005.09.06 20:42:00 - [33]

mmmm suddenly said agent becomes very popular lol. 200m sounds like a fair and reasonable price for those with excess ISK
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Posted - 2005.09.06 20:42:00 - [34]

mmmm suddenly said agent becomes very popular lol. 200m sounds like a fair and reasonable price for those with excess ISK
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Posted - 2005.09.07 11:38:00 - [35]

The key thing to remember with this implant is that the more you pay for it, the longer it takes to pay for itself. Now, if you're going for this, it's fair to assume you're a serious miner, so I'm going to assume you're mining with a large barge with modulated strip miners and the appropriate T2 mining crystals, and all skills maxed. Which gives you yields of:

Without implant: 1132m3/min
With implant: 1188.6m3/min

So the implant is giving you 56.6m3/min of ore as payback.

The exact time to payback the 400mill investment depends on the ore you're mining.

If you decide to stick to empire cause you've suddenly got a hugely valuable head, then the best you can do is Omber at approx 150isk/m3. That means the implant is generating:

150*56.6 = 8490isk/min

400mill/8490 = 785 hours payback time.

That's nearly 33 days of miner-active time. Now, if we assume you have a life outside eve, so only play a max of 6 hours a day, that means it'll be 4 months before you make back in ore what you spent on the implant. And that's just miner-active time, you've still got hauling time etc on top of that.

Now, lets go for the best possible case, of arkonor at approx 700isk/m3. You're then generating:

700*56.6 = 39620 isk/min

400mill/39620 = 168 hours payback time.

That's 7 days of miner time. On 6 hour days, that means payback in a month, plus hauling times. Of course to do that, you have to be confident that you can survive mining in deep 0.0 for a month without being podded once.

In my opinion, current prices make this implant a status symbol rather than a viable business investment. Prices would have to drop to around 150mill before I'd consider it a viable business purchase.

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Posted - 2005.09.07 11:38:00 - [36]

The key thing to remember with this implant is that the more you pay for it, the longer it takes to pay for itself. Now, if you're going for this, it's fair to assume you're a serious miner, so I'm going to assume you're mining with a large barge with modulated strip miners and the appropriate T2 mining crystals, and all skills maxed. Which gives you yields of:

Without implant: 1132m3/min
With implant: 1188.6m3/min

So the implant is giving you 56.6m3/min of ore as payback.

The exact time to payback the 400mill investment depends on the ore you're mining.

If you decide to stick to empire cause you've suddenly got a hugely valuable head, then the best you can do is Omber at approx 150isk/m3. That means the implant is generating:

150*56.6 = 8490isk/min

400mill/8490 = 785 hours payback time.

That's nearly 33 days of miner-active time. Now, if we assume you have a life outside eve, so only play a max of 6 hours a day, that means it'll be 4 months before you make back in ore what you spent on the implant. And that's just miner-active time, you've still got hauling time etc on top of that.

Now, lets go for the best possible case, of arkonor at approx 700isk/m3. You're then generating:

700*56.6 = 39620 isk/min

400mill/39620 = 168 hours payback time.

That's 7 days of miner time. On 6 hour days, that means payback in a month, plus hauling times. Of course to do that, you have to be confident that you can survive mining in deep 0.0 for a month without being podded once.

In my opinion, current prices make this implant a status symbol rather than a viable business investment. Prices would have to drop to around 150mill before I'd consider it a viable business purchase.
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Posted - 2005.09.07 18:09:00 - [37]

Edited by: Ricdic on 07/09/2005 18:10:19
Nice post, disregard before my edit. I re-read mathews post, and understand what he is explaining now.
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Posted - 2005.09.07 18:09:00 - [38]

Edited by: Ricdic on 07/09/2005 18:10:19
Nice post, disregard before my edit. I re-read mathews post, and understand what he is explaining now.

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Posted - 2005.09.07 23:48:00 - [39]

the above is a key bit of advice - its a status symbol and not a ISK generator unless more players use this agent and more are dropped then prices fall and it becomes more value adding
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Posted - 2005.09.07 23:48:00 - [40]

the above is a key bit of advice - its a status symbol and not a ISK generator unless more players use this agent and more are dropped then prices fall and it becomes more value adding
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Posted - 2007.05.12 08:50:00 - [41]

found this on a different thread

Go to Otomainen system.

Warp to Rusty Ridge Mine

Speak to Zabon Michi who will offer (1 of 3 Lost Love)

Go to Contested Gurista Complex in same system and head to second stage.

Kill Manchura who spawns in a Cruiser and collect his tag

Return to Zabon and collect prize

Speak to Zabonn again and accept (2 of 3 Lost Love)

Run a 6 stage ultra high damage mission in which your objective is to capture Wei Todaki. Bring her back to Agent

Speak to Zabonn Michi to accept (3 of 3 Lost Love)
Bring Wei Todaki 7 jumps and deposit in station. Speak to Zabon remotely to pick up:
Michis Mining Augmentor x 1
Improved "Guise" cloaking Device x 1
Possible Cosmos BPC (random)

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