CopeLand
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Posted - 2005.09.05 05:32:00 -
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Edited by: CopeLand on 05/09/2005 05:48:53
 Originally by: BOOFER
When MASS, Species and Collective departed they took with them the majority of the pvpers and most of the leaders. As a result SE fell into chaos and it was other people who worked as you used to tty to bring this alliance up from the depths. With the reintergration of Species, SE finally had the bolster it needed again to rebuild and in that time SE has structured and grown to what we are today. That is due to the people who worked tirelessly to make it what it is now from when you all left. Now SE is strong again. Once again we can hold our heads up through our own work, not yours. And you want to simply takeover? What has Trigger done, what have you done to build the SE that exists today, from the chaos after you left. What right do you have to demand suddenly to just take what we have sweated and bled over and make it yours and change it as you see fit? I too have worked myself to the deficet of my corp and myself to better this alliance. And I see no reason to roll over for the "old guard" and their alliarance. Loyalty is for ever, not just when you feel like it.
Boofer
Ca went away. So did many of the old SA corps. NOw there was entity called stain empire, that held ties to all old sa corps.
This entity was in no real jeopardy at any time. It held its 3 regions and catch with out anyone making any real threats to them, and that with little or no pvp corps within its ranks. FOFF and Interstellar, Setenta and PSI all had their dedicated pvpers and that was it. By no means enough to hold 3 regions and catch. Naps all around and npcs and roids for the poor ones.
Over time the "rome" style corps grew balls and assaulted paragon, rubra,damage and their fa link came into play for short time in period basis. all this time connection between old sa and se was strong. Then fix happens in FAT. As expected, old sa was there and friends. Situation over.
Species rejoin SE and take it over in its entire form.
Now if u can agree with me so far . What has happened since and why?
ATM u are making mass, col and whoever else kos along with your good buddies in Storm Guard, simply cause these corps have supported Storm guard, from my perspective, in its dispute with what i can only see as greedy, manipulative, lying, control freaked out "new" and "better", as u call it, Stain Empire.
This is simply put, a dispute between Stain Empire and its former alliance member corps from old SA now reformed into a new SA. how did it happen? how did it come to this?
We all know there were attempts to solve this diplomatically with a possible good outcome for all those involved. And as we all know despite your claims, Mass laid down some terms, that were accepted by SE but lay and behold that acceptance was in fact nothing more than a lie. SE did not want mass, nor storm guard back, nor did it want peace or friendship with them. so be it.
Just dont paint yourself as some martyr for the working class in stain. I dont think paying 50m a week for having viiri on your ass is a good thing, nor do i think its a good thing to pay to follow the whims of a moody dictator. Ill rather pay Trigger 50m a week for classic forum posts.
One of your major points seems always to be that you somehow saved stain and trigger somehow destroyed it(or am i offbase?) i ,amongst others that have chosen to speak out on the subject have to disagree with your there. Ties were strong and came best into play during the 2nd fix war.
You have in stain atm a bunch of contractors making you a nice sum, you got a nice fleet together which starred in an infamous movie, and after that or around that you grew arrogant...
...to the point that it seems that you thought it was quite alright to follow in a very much personal vendetta vs old friends. The thing you did not see coming was the old glue that still exists between those old friends and other old friends. That glue is now an alliance once more
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