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Trak Cranker
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Posted - 2005.09.05 15:21:00 -
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Pretty sure they have said several times that it would in theory be possible to run without or with fewer downtimes. But that there was several reasons that was easier they liked it the way it was now. Afair. Not much more specific than that I'm afraid.
Verone:
As long as the debated subject has nothing to do with in game happenings or relations, what does it matter if its an alt or not?
I like to think that Eve players are mature enough not to take a difference on out of game subjects like this into the game. But I understand if some might not take that chance.
(And some might be posting at times when they should be doing other stuff. :)
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Abdalion
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Posted - 2005.09.05 15:23:00 -
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 Originally by: Gotfrik Hudwin
That's no fair Eris. Verone wants to have my babies and now it looks like he wants yours.
I will not share Verone with anyone!
Wonder what Verone thinks about this.
I know I would run, Alts scare me.
Then again, I am an alt too. Hmmm.
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Verone
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Posted - 2005.09.05 15:25:00 -
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Originally by: Abdalion
Wonder what Verone thinks about this.
I know I would run, Alts scare me.
Then again, I am an alt too. Hmmm.
Techinically, and legally I am the property of Miss Discordia.
Anyone wishing to loan, hire or physically interact with me must first consult with the forementioned lady  .
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Eshtir
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Posted - 2005.09.05 15:26:00 -
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Originally by: Abdalion
Wonder what Verone thinks about this.
I know I would run, Alts scare me.
Then again, I am an alt too. Hmmm.
I usually dont spam but 
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Malarkey
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Posted - 2005.09.05 15:29:00 -
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Of course, Verone would continue to post amarrian babbling nonsense throughout each DT, so I guess there's no point, really. (or no hope) (or both) (oops, I'm babbling)
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Matthew
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Posted - 2005.09.05 15:32:00 -
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Originally by: Jaabaa Prime
I remember a dev posting that this "might" change to weekly in the future but that was about 2 years ago.
I remember them going through a period of trying only having DT every 48 hours. It would work sometimes, but they ended up having to do several uncheduled reboots when the server got too clogged up.
Most of the stuff that happens during DT could be done with the server live, which is probably what they were hoping to move to. The problem is that there isn't enough spare server capacity to do the tasks fast enough without impacting playability. So the clean-up queue gets longer and longer and the server eventually chokes on it's own trash. Some of this is obvious stuff like respawning roids, updating market data etc. But it will also be to do with things like the database struture.
In a database optimised for reads and/or writes (which I would assume eve's is), deleting something can become a very computationally expensive operation. To stop the server grinding to a halt everytime someone decides to clean out their bookmarks folder, a flagging system is used. As a write is quicker than a delete, a special indicator is written to the "deleted" value that basically says "this is deleted". Any further queries to the database see that flag and duly ignore the entry. So the delete appears to happen very quickly. Unfortuantely, the entry is still in the database, clogging it up.
Usually, these flagged entries are properly deleted by a background process that makes use of spare capacity so as not to dusrupt live operations. But if there isn't enough spare capacity for the delete agent to work as fast as people are deleting items, then the database will slowly get clogged with deleted items, and you'll need a DT for the delete agent to catch up, or face a gradual slowing down of your database.
Now, consider the sheer scale at which things are being deleted from the DB. Every time you combine 2 stacks into one, there's an item deleted. Every time a ship gets blown up, the ship, every module fitted and all the cargo that's destroyed must be deleted. Every rat that gets killed, every can that's popped. Every time you build something, the build requirements get deleted. Every time you repackage the ship, the original ship is deleted and replaced with a repackaged version (similarly for assembling ships). Every time you refine something, the ore/module/etc gets deleted. Every time you trash something. Every time you start a skill training from a skill book. Every time you give something to an agent, or sell something to an NPC. That's a very considerable amount of junk trying to clutter up the DB.
Of course, the regular DT's do also help a lot when there are dropped nodes, hotfixes etc that need addressing.
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Sadist
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Posted - 2005.09.05 15:37:00 -
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Originally by: Deja Thoris
Originally by: Zanner
Please consider changing downtime to GMT 5AM.
Justification:
Just about Every company that I worked for in IT required us to reboot servers during NON Production hours, usually anywhere from 12AM-6AM.
Thank you.
The world is round.
pwnt.
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Zanner
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Posted - 2005.09.05 15:49:00 -
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Thanks to all who posted.
The feedback to my original post was overwhelming and quite encouraging.
If Verone is the Alt of a Moderator, then I am very sorry for the Bounty. But it is all in good fun.
I can hardly wait to meet Verone, seems like an Alt who knows how to have FUN.
Zanner
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Verone
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Posted - 2005.09.05 16:13:00 -
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Originally by: Zanner
If Verone is the Alt of a Moderator, then I am very sorry for the Bounty. But it is all in good fun.
I can hardly wait to meet Verone, seems like an Alt who knows how to have FUN.
Zanner
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Verone
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Posted - 2005.09.05 23:12:00 -
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Originally by: Verone
Originally by: Eris Discordia
Edited by: Eris DIscordia on 05/09/2005 14:49:49
Originally by: Verone
Originally by: Eris Discordia
Originally by: Verone
Enter smiley here
More sensible was said here
Someone said something here as well
Eris Discordia was here
I love you, and your hair. Bear my children.
this post has been manipulated by Eris for Verone
Dammit.
Pwnt 
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JForce
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Posted - 2005.09.06 00:43:00 -
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As a player in NZ, I don't mind the DT toooooo much, as it currently hits at 11pm, which kind of forces me to go to bed.
Once daylight saving stops again here, it will be back to midnight, which is even better.
But the Aussies must hate it, as it would be bang on their playtime, at about 9-10pm....now THAT would suck.....
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SexySexy
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Posted - 2005.09.06 03:06:00 -
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Edited by: SexySexy on 06/09/2005 03:09:28
9:00 to 15:00 GMT is 18:00 to 24:00 GMT+9 !!
we can't play eve a day.
damn ccp, change this time!
compensate for a day. 
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