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Belthazor4011 Battle BV 124	Posted - 2013.04.01 14:34:00 - [1] - Quote Leaving Officer mods out of it. Which ship can deal the most DPS at a 100km or over? Tank not needed, pain only. Best I've gotten without implants and T1 ammo (not faction, the real cheap T1) is 1100 DPS from a Navy Domi, is there something better available? Please keep in mind that you also need to be able to lock that far, preferably even over 150km. Cause I forgot that at first lol
Kodama Ikari Concordiat Spaceship Samurai 60	Posted - 2013.04.01 14:40:00 - [2] - Quote excluding capital ships, probably not. Some first-hand PI tips
Belthazor4011 Battle BV 124	Posted - 2013.04.01 14:45:00 - [3] - Quote Yeah sub cap ofcourse
Antillie Sa'Kan Forging Industries Silent Infinity 26	Posted - 2013.04.01 15:08:00 - [4] - Quote I think your Domi fit is about as good as your going to get without jumping to capitals. Just keep in mind that at 100km your sentry drones will be in deep falloff and will not apply their full DPS.
Faith Ecke Moon MMXIII 0	Posted - 2013.04.01 16:03:00 - [5] - Quote Naga 600dps @ 371km optimal + 40km falloff 376km lockrange 2000ms fast but with some fleet boosters and stuff you could probably get better stats
Ryuce 34	Posted - 2013.04.01 16:34:00 - [6] - Quote Did they remove the cap on lock range, or didn't Faith do her home work very well?
sabre906 Old Spice Syndicate Sailors of the Sacred Spice 922	Posted - 2013.04.01 17:33:00 - [7] - Quote Rail Vindi with 5 wardens and lots of sebos, or Tach NM with 3 wardens... Why would you need something like this anyway? Standings Improvement Service https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=19454
Bluestone Not Enough Time 1	Posted - 2013.04.01 17:56:00 - [8] - Quote sabre906 wrote: Rail Vindi with 5 wardens and lots of sebos, or Tach NM with 3 wardens... Why would you need something like this anyway? Im gonna guess for gate camping.
Liang Nuren Heretic Army Atrocitas 3260	Posted - 2013.04.01 18:38:00 - [9] - Quote I don't think it's gate camping because he's looking at battleships. Battleships have terrible lock time and sustained damage barely matters at all. The Correct Answer for gate camping is Arty Nado at 155km from the gate. My guess is POS assault. -Liang Normally on 5:00 -> 9-10:00 Eve (Aus TZ?) Blog: http://liangnuren.wordpress.com PVP Videos: http://www.youtube.com/user/LiangNuren/videos Twitter: http://twitter.com/LiangNuren
Belthazor4011 Battle BV 124	Posted - 2013.04.01 18:52:00 - [10] - Quote sabre906 wrote: Rail Vindi with 5 wardens and lots of sebos, or Tach NM with 3 wardens... Why would you need something like this anyway? Vindi and NM came out lower at least not better than the cheaper Navi Domi
Drake Doe SVER True Blood Unclaimed. 102	Posted - 2013.04.01 20:20:00 - [11] - Quote Sniper nado?
Belthazor4011 Battle BV 124	Posted - 2013.04.01 20:37:00 - [12] - Quote Awesome Alpha, but DPS is no where close on a Nado. Its not for ganking so DPS over Alpha
Unsuccessful At Everything The Troll Bridge 3050	Posted - 2013.04.01 20:37:00 - [13] - Quote Sniper Tornado for Alpha, Sniper Naga (or Rohk) for DPS. *Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?*
Belthazor4011 Battle BV 124	Posted - 2013.04.01 20:40:00 - [14] - Quote Naga and Rokh dont do the DPS I get out of the Navy Domi sadly
Georgina Parmala Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 39	Posted - 2013.04.01 21:04:00 - [15] - Quote I'm having trouble seeing how your Navy Domi can do 1100 DPS at 100+KM. (I'm looking at just T2, no bling, perfect skills) 425 rails with Antimatter with 3 stabs and 5 warden2's with 4 DDA's. Paper DPS is 1096. 600 drone, 496 gun But that gun DPS is at 51+58km with 3 range scripted TC's. It will only do 248 dps at 100km. Thorium will get you 372 paper 364 applied at that range. Thorium with navy mag stabs brings it up to 384, or a total of 993 dps. That's a ways off 1100. The drones will reach out 114 km with two omni's and a SeBo rounding out mids. But do 0 DPS at 100km. You can only order them to attack targets up to 60km away without dropping rails for drone link augmentors. Need two for 108km control range, down to ~850 dps at 100km. Using three Drone control range rigs on a dedicated ship just for this you get 105k drone range, but that still needs a 1% power implant. Needs navy mag stabs to fit with 3 CPU to spare - With drone rigging 5 that is. Drone rig 4 needs a 3% CPU implant. That still applies only 992 dps at 100k. What am I missing?
Morrigan LeSante The Lost and Forgotten Troopers 230	Posted - 2013.04.01 22:48:00 - [16] - Quote Georgina Parmala wrote: I'm having trouble seeing how your Navy Domi can do 1100 DPS at 100+KM. (I'm looking at just T2, no bling, perfect skills) [[snipped]] What am I missing? I thought it was just me. The best lolfits I could manage were: [Machariel, lolfail] Gyrostabilizer II Gyrostabilizer II Gyrostabilizer II Gyrostabilizer II Drone Damage Amplifier II Drone Damage Amplifier II Drone Damage Amplifier II Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range Script Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range Script Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range Script Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range Script Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range Script 800mm Repeating Artillery II, Barrage L 800mm Repeating Artillery II, Barrage L 800mm Repeating Artillery II, Barrage L 800mm Repeating Artillery II, Barrage L 800mm Repeating Artillery II, Barrage L 800mm Repeating Artillery II, Barrage L 800mm Repeating Artillery II, Barrage L Drone Link Augmentor II Large Projectile Burst Aerator II [empty rig slot] [empty rig slot] Ogre II x4 1287 (paper) DPS @84km on drones (that's approx 100km....right?) using barrage @9+116 For something you might actually use and apply the paper damage: [Rattlesnake, loldps] Drone Damage Amplifier II Drone Damage Amplifier II Drone Damage Amplifier II Drone Damage Amplifier II Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II [empty med slot] [empty med slot] [empty med slot] [empty med slot] [empty med slot] [empty med slot] [empty med slot] Cruise Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Inferno Cruise Missile Cruise Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Inferno Cruise Missile Cruise Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Inferno Cruise Missile Cruise Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Inferno Cruise Missile Drone Link Augmentor II Drone Link Augmentor II Large Warhead Calefaction Catalyst II [empty rig slot] [empty rig slot] Ogre II x5 Mids...meh, whatever. 1155dps with fury. 1099dps with faction missiles. 1066 with T1. All over 100km range and if you're shooting a station it'll actually DO that damage. Amusingly, that rattler can still sport a couple of hundred DPS [almost] passive tank.
Faith Ecke Moon MMXIII 0	Posted - 2013.04.01 22:55:00 - [17] - Quote [Dominix Navy Issue, test] Drone Damage Amplifier II Drone Damage Amplifier II Drone Damage Amplifier II Drone Damage Amplifier II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range Script Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range Script Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range Script Omnidirectional Tracking Link II Omnidirectional Tracking Link II Omnidirectional Tracking Link II 425mm Railgun II, Lead Charge L 425mm Railgun II, Lead Charge L 425mm Railgun II, Lead Charge L 425mm Railgun II, Lead Charge L 425mm Railgun II, Lead Charge L 425mm Railgun II, Lead Charge L Bouncer II x5 this one pulls out 1030 dps and i didnt even used rigs or imps or faction/T2 Ammo, and both turrets and drones got 100km + optimalrange u could use rigs for targeting range or more dmg, whatever, to answer the first question,i dont think that there are many ships that can reach this stats
Georgina Parmala Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 39	Posted - 2013.04.01 23:31:00 - [18] - Quote Faith Ecke wrote: this one pulls out 1030 dps and i didnt even used rigs or imps or faction/T2 Ammo, and both turrets and drones got 100km + optimalrange u could use rigs for targeting range or more dmg, whatever, to answer the first question,i dont think that there are many ships that can reach this stats, but its easily doable with a rattlesnake for example You have 60 km drone control range. You can't get those bouncers to actually shoot something 100km away. Using rigs to fix that, You're 8.2% over CPU. You have to Navy the Mag Stabs AND have Drone Rigging 5 AND a 4% CPU implant and a 1% power implant with that fit. You also have a 87.5 KM lock range, and no rigs left to fix that. But bouncers do work better. With some adjustments, perfect skills (i can't stress that enough) and 1% cpu and power implants, you can apply 1050 dps at 100km. [Dominix Navy Issue, Siege] Federation Navy Magnetic Field Stabilizer Federation Navy Magnetic Field Stabilizer Federation Navy Magnetic Field Stabilizer Drone Damage Amplifier II Drone Damage Amplifier II Drone Damage Amplifier II Drone Damage Amplifier II Omnidirectional Tracking Link II Omnidirectional Tracking Link II Omnidirectional Tracking Link II F-90 Positional Sensor Subroutines, Targeting Range Script Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range Script Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range Script 425mm Railgun II, Lead Charge L 425mm Railgun II, Lead Charge L 425mm Railgun II, Lead Charge L 425mm Railgun II, Lead Charge L 425mm Railgun II, Lead Charge L 425mm Railgun II, Lead Charge L Large Drone Control Range Augmentor I Large Drone Control Range Augmentor I Large Drone Control Range Augmentor I Bouncer II x5 If it's not otherwise an issue, Ogres will work even better and apply 1192 dps at 100km with that fit.
Faith Ecke Moon MMXIII 0	Posted - 2013.04.01 23:59:00 - [19] - Quote what XD my fitting tool shows me that the drones (which are sentry drones) have more than 100km optimal range, i dont need any drone control modifications, only some targetingrange which is doable with rigs
Georgina Parmala Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 39	Posted - 2013.04.02 00:23:00 - [20] - Quote That is their optimal firing range. There is also drone control range. You can only tell a drone to attack a target up to a range of 20km + 5 per level of scout drone operation + 3 per level in electronic warfare drone interfacing. For a total of 60km with perfect skills. To tell a drone to shoot something beyond that range, you need to fit drone control range rigs or drone link augmentors in the high slots.
DHB WildCat Caldari Provisions Caldari State 195	Posted - 2013.04.02 00:38:00 - [21] - Quote Realistic - CNR Highs - 1x Heavy Unstable Neut 7x T2 Cruise Launchers - Scourge Fury Cruise Mids - 1x Prototype MWD 1x Sensor Booster 1x XL ASB 1x EM resist amp 1x Invuln 1x Heavy Brave Cap Booster Lows - 1x DCU 4x Caldari Navy BCU Drones - 3x Warden Rigs - 1x Anti Termal 2x Field Extenders 1300 dps at 180km. (Overloaded) Unrealistic..... Raven State Issue - 1800 dps at 249km
Georgina Parmala Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 39	Posted - 2013.04.02 00:43:00 - [22] - Quote Hey look, overheated dps with T2 missiles. So useful for OP's purpose, which looks to be bashing down a POS I love how it's named "Realistic" to top it off.
DHB WildCat Caldari Provisions Caldari State 195	Posted - 2013.04.02 00:44:00 - [23] - Quote Georgina Parmala wrote: Hey look, overheated dps with T2 missiles. So useful for OP's purpose, which looks to be bashing down an offline pos in high sec. I love how it's named "Realistic" to top it off. okay fine 1100 DPS not overloaded *******
Georgina Parmala Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 39	Posted - 2013.04.02 01:14:00 - [24] - Quote DHB WildCat wrote: okay fine 1100 DPS not overloaded ******* What implants are you using? Cause I'm getting 964 DPS on paper with that. But not at 180 KM. You can only lock targets out to 150km you see. And not 964 DPS, but 829 at 100km. You see, it drops at the 60 km mark. You can't tell your drones to attack beyond that. Even if you could, your drones have a 75km optimal with 30km falloff and would barely contribute 80 dps at 100k range. You also don't want to be shooting T2 ammo at a building, cheap sustained fire was the whole premise of the OP. Regular Nova missiles put your fit at 592 dps at 100+ km out to your 150k lock range. This is starting to be an interesting exercise
Tasiv Deka The Pulsar Innovation 71	Posted - 2013.04.02 01:27:00 - [25] - Quote Georgina Parmala wrote: This is starting to be an interesting exercise In futility it would seem Oh, Do go on... no seriously ive got nothing better to do then listen to all the petty arguments and feeble trolling attempts...-á The sad thing is i'm not sure if i'm telling the truth.
DHB WildCat Caldari Provisions Caldari State 195	Posted - 2013.04.02 02:39:00 - [26] - Quote Georgina Parmala wrote: DHB WildCat wrote: okay fine 1100 DPS not overloaded ******* What implants are you using? Cause I'm getting 964 DPS on paper with that. But not at 180 KM. You can only lock targets out to 150km you see. And not 964 DPS, but 829 at 100km. You see, it drops at the 60 km mark. You can't tell your drones to attack beyond that. Even if you could, your drones have a 75km optimal with 30km falloff and would barely contribute 80 dps at 100k range. You also don't want to be shooting T2 ammo at a building, cheap sustained fire was the whole premise of the OP. Regular Nova missiles put your fit at 592 dps at 100+ km out to your 150k lock range. This is starting to be an interesting exercise Dude seriously use the implants for rate of fire, and cruise missile damage. (are you using t2 fury cruise like my original post states, or just faction like an idiot?) Then drop drones off at 40 and MWD away. Way are you trolling so hard. This is paper dps like the op asked for. Stop being an ass also have a gang member for more locking range.
loki energon Voodoo Children Workers Trade Federation 13	Posted - 2013.04.02 03:56:00 - [27] - Quote with all Vs and my cruise missile clone, my CNR that i use all the time, is lock and fire at 155km, 851dps un-heated just missiles. not counting drones. its not what the OP asked for, i just hate trolls who use a spreadsheet program to talk mad sheet about how much smarter they are than everyone else. kill em all.
Morrigan LeSante The Lost and Forgotten Troopers 231	Posted - 2013.04.02 07:28:00 - [28] - Quote Hey, the lolfit rattler I posted was perfectly valid, I just couldnt be bothered populating the mids. Only the rig would be considered a permanent "deviation" from something most rattler owners have lounging in their hangers. One page one I wrote: 1155dps with fury. 1099dps with faction missiles. 1066 with T1. All over 100km range And that's with zero implants too.
Froggy Storm Paxton Industries Gentlemen's Agreement 20	Posted - 2013.04.02 10:02:00 - [29] - Quote If your looking to pos bash fast then just call in the dreds or supers. The battleship route isn't going to be cost effective to snipe over 100km and do it quickly. Since we have established it is not a camp but sustained DPS I assume this to mean you want to snipe pos guns beyond their range. Given that a battleship by its self is going to take a long time to chew through solo. You will need a fleet and account for response time. The shorter the response time the more members you will need. The key here is to add more ships not more DPS to a single lolfit ship. I'd say your best bet for the job will be a fleet of tach oracles. Best optimal for the investment and no ammo to carry
Sergeant Acht Scultz School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State 705	Posted - 2013.04.02 10:39:00 - [30] - Quote Georgina Parmala wrote: Faith Ecke wrote: this one pulls out 1030 dps and i didnt even used rigs or imps or faction/T2 Ammo, and both turrets and drones got 100km + optimalrange u could use rigs for targeting range or more dmg, whatever, to answer the first question,i dont think that there are many ships that can reach this stats, but its easily doable with a rattlesnake for example You have 60 km drone control range. You can't get those bouncers to actually shoot something 100km away. Using rigs to fix that, You're 8.2% over CPU. You have to Navy the Mag Stabs AND have Drone Rigging 5 AND a 4% CPU implant and a 1% power implant with that fit. You also have a 87.5 KM lock range, and no rigs left to fix that. But bouncers do work better. With some adjustments, perfect skills (i can't stress that enough) and 1% cpu and power implants, you can apply 1050 dps at 100km. [Dominix Navy Issue, Siege] Federation Navy Magnetic Field Stabilizer Federation Navy Magnetic Field Stabilizer Federation Navy Magnetic Field Stabilizer Drone Damage Amplifier II Drone Damage Amplifier II Drone Damage Amplifier II Drone Damage Amplifier II Omnidirectional Tracking Link II Omnidirectional Tracking Link II Omnidirectional Tracking Link II F-90 Positional Sensor Subroutines, Targeting Range Script Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range Script Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range Script 425mm Railgun II, Lead Charge L 425mm Railgun II, Lead Charge L 425mm Railgun II, Lead Charge L 425mm Railgun II, Lead Charge L 425mm Railgun II, Lead Charge L 425mm Railgun II, Lead Charge L Large Drone Control Range Augmentor I Large Drone Control Range Augmentor I Large Drone Control Range Augmentor I Bouncer II x5 If it's not otherwise an issue, Ogres will work even better and apply 1192 dps at 100km with that fit. To get a 100km control range and better dmg application I just tried this out on EFT but can't say it works properly (MJD just there for gtfo ability) [Dominix SnipeTheFool] Drone Damage Amplifier II Drone Damage Amplifier II Drone Damage Amplifier II Drone Damage Amplifier II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range Script Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range Script Sensor Booster II, Targeting Range Script Omnidirectional Tracking Link II Omnidirectional Tracking Link II Large Micro Jump Drive 425mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Thorium Charge L 425mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Thorium Charge L 425mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Thorium Charge L 425mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Thorium Charge L 425mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Thorium Charge L Drone Link Augmentor II Large Hybrid Burst Aerator I Large Drone Control Range Augmentor I [empty rig slot] Ogre II x5 This seems quite realistic but requires all 5's in drones, the ship it self (Gallente Battleship) and guns of course. 1212 DPS and if you add +5 turrets dmg x2 (hybrids + all turrets) you get 1250 DPS which is not a huge gain for a drone dmg based ship. These are just theoretical numbers, you get a better applied dmg with heavy drones than sentries but traveling time+the eventual loss is not taken in account neither. This, of course, has specific purposes. removed inappropriate ASCII art signature - CCP Eterne

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