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Ydnari
Estrale Frontiers Project Wildfire
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Posted - 2013.04.02 20:00:00 -
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Will there be support in the EVE API for the per-character container? i.e. within http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/EVE_API_Corporation_Asset_List
There's a few outcomes I could think of, from worst to best:
(1) API broken for anyone who anchors one of them (2) Contents don't show in API (3) Contents show, but all jumbled together (4) Contents show, in separate subcontainers, but no indication who owns what. (5) Contents show, in separate subcontainers, and a characterID attribute on the subcontainer showing whose it is.
vote steve https://community.eveonline.com/community/csm/candidate?id=7933451 |
Ydnari
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Posted - 2013.04.02 21:55:00 -
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Rengerel en Distel wrote:CCP Masterplan wrote:Quote:Lots of questions about roles The role system is responsible for a lot of the limitations of the current behaviour. To solve a lot of those issues, we're going to have to dedicate a good amount of time to reworking that system first. There simply isn't the scope for doing that in this release. This is the sort of thing we'll need to dedicate a team to for a full release cycle. (omg dat roles UI!) How about just adding that you have to be a director to cancel someone elses job?
Yep, is this going to be in Odessey at last? Simple fix to a long standing problem, since the rest of the problems in this area are manageable with all the existing corp hangar roles. vote steve https://community.eveonline.com/community/csm/candidate?id=7933451 |
Ydnari
Estrale Frontiers Project Wildfire
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Posted - 2013.04.09 18:15:00 -
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CCP Masterplan wrote:For all you players asking about the roles for cancelling jobs (and this applies to regular station jobs also) I'm going to have a look and see if there is something we can do about it. Take this with a hefty slice of Expectation Management Pie, but one simple possibility I'm thinking of is restricting the ability to cancel corp jobs to director roles only. With just the Factory-Manager role, you'd still be able to cancel your own corp jobs, but not those corp jobs belonging to your corpmates. What do you think about this idea? Be aware this is a very specific, focused fix to an problem that has come up a few times. Please don't feature-creep on me, or there's simply no scope for it happening!
Yes. Please do exactly this. vote steve https://community.eveonline.com/community/csm/candidate?id=7933451 |
Ydnari
Estrale Frontiers Project Wildfire
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Posted - 2013.04.10 09:45:00 -
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DoToo Foo wrote:CCP Masterplan wrote:For all you players asking about the roles for cancelling jobs ... restricting the ability to cancel corp jobs to director roles only. With just the Factory-Manager role, you'd still be able to cancel your own corp jobs, but not those corp jobs belonging to your corpmates. ... Stabase fuel technician would be a better role for this than director. I might want to set up someone to trust with my POS, but not give them full director permissions to access everything (including other wallets). A Stabase fuel technician can already stop everyones job simply by making the POS offline. If I trust them with that much permission, I could also trust them to stop someone's job; but I would not need to give them permisison on everything corp related.
I disagree; a person may be given access to add fuel to a wormhole POS, but that doesn't mean they should as a result have access to cancel all the corp jobs in highsec NPC stations.
Whilst this has come up in a POS thread, it applies to all industry, not just POS jobs. (And personally I am more interested in preventing cancelling station-based corp jobs than POS ones, although the POS ones are important too).
Even in POS jobs, starbase fuel tech can't cancel jobs; taking the tower offline pauses the jobs, you need to unanchor or destroy the labs/arrays to actually cancel the jobs; so someone with Config Starbase Equipment can do that (as well as unanchoring and stealing your POS).
In the absence of a new "job canceller" role which is not going to happen, Director is the right choice. vote steve https://community.eveonline.com/community/csm/candidate?id=7933451 |
Ydnari
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Posted - 2013.05.13 13:59:00 -
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CCP Fozzie wrote:Latest Update:
We are in the process of investigating changes to what roles are required to cancel corp jobs in a Starbase. I can't promise that it will make it into Odyssey but we'll do our best. To be clear does this change apply to all corp jobs as previously posted, not just those in Starbases? I'm much more concerned about the corp jobs in NPC stations - I want to be able to let junior members build their own frigates using locked-down corp BPOs without being able to cancel bigger corp jobs (and that's been a common user story in the threads about this over the years).
The solution you posted earlier about only Directors being able to cancel any corp job that wasn't started by them - whether it's in a POS or NPC station or wherever - looked perfect.
You've got me a bit worried now that it specifically mentions Starbases; I'm really hoping it includes Starbases but is not limited to Starbases.
Also: please please please do implement it -- |
Ydnari
Estrale Frontiers Project Wildfire
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Posted - 2013.05.20 17:02:00 -
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CCP Fozzie wrote:Hey guys CCP Masterplan was able to finish the change to the permissions required to cancel corporation jobs.
After Odyssey, the only people who will be able to cancel a corporation job will be the person who installed the job, and directors of the corp. Factory managers will still be able to install and manage their own jobs, but not cancel jobs installed by others.
This applies to all varieties of corporation manufacturing and research jobs, in all locations and facilities.
awesome -- |
Ydnari
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Posted - 2013.06.14 13:37:00 -
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Smoking Blunts wrote:CCP Fozzie wrote:Hey guys CCP Masterplan was able to finish the change to the permissions required to cancel corporation jobs.
After Odyssey, the only people who will be able to cancel a corporation job will be the person who installed the job, and directors of the corp. Factory managers will still be able to install and manage their own jobs, but not cancel jobs installed by others.
This applies to all varieties of corporation manufacturing and research jobs, in all locations and facilities. yes this dosnt work. did it not actually get fixed?
which bit doesn't work? tested the "non-directors can't cancel jobs that aren't their own" just now and that seems to work, are there holes in this where they still can cancel stuff? -- |
Ydnari
Estrale Frontiers Project Wildfire
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Posted - 2013.06.14 17:17:00 -
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Interested to hear your results because I tried it with an alt with Factory Manager and it wasn't able to cancel a research job. -- |
Ydnari
Estrale Frontiers Project Wildfire
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Posted - 2013.06.14 17:48:00 -
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Smoking Blunts wrote:Ydnari wrote:Interested to hear your results because I tried it with an alt with Factory Manager and it wasn't able to cancel a research job. button shows, but I pressed it and got the you don't have roles... I would feel better if there was no button though...lol
Yeah well that's the whole industry UI isn't it, shows buttons or menu options that don't make sense and only lead to errors several clicks later. -- |
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