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Ivy Romanova
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
862
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Posted - 2013.04.03 10:33:00 -
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I was reading the papers about people using false credentials online to fool teenage girls into a "struggle snuggle party" the other day...
As I was dived deeper into the story , something hit me.
First , we have the Pay For Your Game with PLEX.
Then, we had the character exchange for PLEX .
Now, we have the character re sculpt for PLEX .
The future, why not have a clean slate reboot for PLEX?
For the price of 10 PLEX , you'll have
A new name ,A new race , new credentials (employment history will change to : Unknown) , while still retaining all the SP you've trained over the years .
Why don't we have that in game?
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Emma Royd
Maddled Gommerils
219
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Posted - 2013.04.03 10:39:00 -
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Because the idea has been done to death, and overall the general opinion is it's a bad idea. |
Ivy Romanova
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
862
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Posted - 2013.04.03 10:40:00 -
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Emma Royd wrote:Because the idea has been done to death, and overall the general opinion is it's a bad idea.
because spies are bad?
Not really that much of a reason imh
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Frank Millar
133
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Posted - 2013.04.03 10:45:00 -
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Erm... Biomassing is already ingame, and it's free. |
Mascha Tzash
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
68
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Posted - 2013.04.03 10:45:00 -
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I still dislike the proposition to wipe the entire corp history.
I could accept a marker, where a change of ownership for this character has taken place.
This would still show the past of that char including an indicator, when the playstyle and/or behavior of this toon might have changed. |
Solhild
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
922
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Posted - 2013.04.03 10:48:00 -
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Ivy Romanova wrote:I was reading the papers about people using false credentials online to fool teenage girls into a "struggle snuggle party" the other day... As I was dived deeper into the story , something hit me. First , we have the Pay For Your Game with PLEX.
Then, we had the character exchange for PLEX .
Now, we have the character re sculpt for PLEX .
The future, why not have a clean slate reboot for PLEX? For the price of 10 PLEX , you'll have A new name ,A new race , new credentials (employment history will change to : Unknown) , while still retaining all the SP you've trained over the years . Why don't we have that in game?
I'm not completely against this idea. It's almost the same as saying start a new char with 5mill sp for 10 plex then apply sp where you want etc.
Personally I'd insist on a 10 million sp maximum for re-setting old chars or creating new ones.
(slippery slope?) |
Emma Royd
Maddled Gommerils
219
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Posted - 2013.04.03 10:48:00 -
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I was mid edit when I was quoted, so edited the edit and ..
There's a big difference between spending 500mil isk on some cosmetic surgery, or to move your char to another account, as opposed to spending 5bil isk on a complete history blank - ie you never existed anywhere, no jobs etc.
5 Billion isk isn't a right lot of isk for someone who has pulled off a corp theft and bought the plex.
If you steal from a corp then you should be forever known as a scumbag thief so any potential recruiters can check forums etc to see if there's any history of theft against you.
If you're known as an awoxer then why should you be able to wipe that from your record.
Basically in eve there are consequences, and you have to live with them, not be able to fork out a fairly insignificant amount of isk and be able to get rid of them.
The amount of isk is irrelevant, be it 1 plex, 10 plex, 50 plex or 100 plex, it's a system that should it ever be brought in, be fair to all, not those rich kids with daddy's credit card. |
Ivy Romanova
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
862
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Posted - 2013.04.03 10:56:00 -
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Emma Royd wrote:I was mid edit when I was quoted, so edited the edit and ..
There's a big difference between spending 500mil isk on some cosmetic surgery, or to move your char to another account, as opposed to spending 5bil isk on a complete history blank - ie you never existed anywhere, no jobs etc.
5 Billion isk isn't a right lot of isk for someone who has pulled off a corp theft and bought the plex.
If you steal from a corp then you should be forever known as a scumbag thief so any potential recruiters can check forums etc to see if there's any history of theft against you.
If you're known as an awoxer then why should you be able to wipe that from your record.
Basically in eve there are consequences, and you have to live with them, not be able to fork out a fairly insignificant amount of isk and be able to get rid of them.
The amount of isk is irrelevant, be it 1 plex, 10 plex, 50 plex or 100 plex, it's a system that should it ever be brought in, be fair to all, not those rich kids with daddy's credit card.
because this is EvE .
A place where alts already provides you with the "enjoyment" of AWOXING and being a general Jita scambot .
The consequences are only as binding as to the character , but not the person behind it .
And lets be fair , 5 billion isk to change everything pretty much just hacked at least 50% if not more of a medium sized heist.
Its A LOT of money .
We can always hack away the Employment history thing if you want .
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Ace Uoweme
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
38
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Posted - 2013.04.03 10:59:00 -
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I only would like a one time name change. Would like to level up toons for my family, and when they're ready to come over, they can chose the toon's name.
One time can prevent abuses.
"In a world of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act."
~George Orwell
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Degren
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
2369
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Posted - 2013.04.03 10:59:00 -
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I didn't read the rest of the post.
Let me preface this next statement by saying **** isn't funny.
"Struggle snuggle party" had me in tears.
Hello, hello again. |
Emu Meo
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
98
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Posted - 2013.04.03 11:48:00 -
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What exactly is a "stuggle snuggle party"? lol |
Sentamon
802
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Posted - 2013.04.03 11:51:00 -
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no .. and you should feel bad
~ Professional Forum Alt -á~ |
Markku Laaksonen
EVE University
Ivy League
100
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Posted - 2013.04.03 12:58:00 -
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Emma Royd wrote:
If you steal from a corp then you should be forever known as a scumbag thief so any potential recruiters can check forums etc to see if there's any history of theft against you.
If you're known as an awoxer then why should you be able to wipe that from your record.
Basically in eve there are consequences, and you have to live with them, not be able to fork out a fairly insignificant amount of isk and be able to get rid of them.
This part "If you're known as an awoxer then why should you be able to wipe that from your record." I still consider myself an outsider looking in, and I haven't understood this mentality of "EVE should have consequences" when you can make a new character specifically for awox'ing, or whatever other nefarious deeds, and CCP provides the character bazaar to avoid said consequences.
For instance, if I awox'ed a fellow Unista, it would forever be associated with this character. I could still try to awox and hope a recruiter doesn't check forums, doesn't check with previous corp, etc. But by and large, I would be denied from a majority of corps. Consequences. That's great.
Roll a new char, awox away. Consequences in this game are an illusion, and easily side stepped or avoided all together.
Edit: To state my position, rather than have one of you asshats state it for, I'm indifferent. I wouldn't care one way or another about a paid name change/corp history removal. When I think about it, a name change for characters bought from the bazaar would be nice, but I wouldn't lose any sleep over it if I bought a char and couldn't change the name, as would be the case now if I bought characters. Which I most assuredly don't. |
Markku Laaksonen
EVE University
Ivy League
100
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Posted - 2013.04.03 13:14:00 -
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Separate post because separate thought and only sort of related to OP.
If you really want consequences, and you love EVE and feel like consequences are what make this game apart from the rest, would you support payment method being linked to your API info? PLEX'ing could still avoid this, I assume, but for example, if I do low/null sec exploration on one account to fund ISK for various gank/awox/bastard accounts, and have subbed them with the same credit card, the fact that the same CC was used for multiple accounts could be indicated on a full API.
I'm no programmer, so I have no idea how it would be implemented. The gist of it is...
Would you support some way to link the person with the character? Consequences and such. |
Krax As
Silent Tears in Space
15
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Posted - 2013.04.03 14:00:00 -
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giving away the account payment infos b API is a bad idea.
Not everyone in this game plays multiple accounts just to hurt / scam others.
Yet some have two or more accounts and use them for totally different hings not complementing each other.
One pvp account, one trader... one freighter pilot.
what if the pvp char makes enemies and they find out anout the other two ? yeah its the same player but not the same character... the game and the players need to distinguish between those two.
if you give out the account-info of the example above you pave way for endless griefing. and killing a hauler who has done nothing wrong again and again just because some non related pvp pilot awoxed someone wouldnt make any sense.
what i do like is name and history change when toons are transferred via bazaar. it is a slippery slope but why should I be punished for buying a toon that was used for scams and theft and be accountable for it ? thats like marking me a criminal when I buy a car that was used for bankrobbery....
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Fredfredbug4
Eve Defence Force
Tribal Band
644
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Posted - 2013.04.03 14:07:00 -
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Because choices and actions have consequences. If CCP allowed this, it would change the game completely. You could betray and backstab without any negative repercussions for it.
If you want a clean slate, create a new account.
I accidentally my assets, is this bad?-á |
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