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Rolstra Moo's Mudpit 7	Posted - 2013.04.03 11:54:00 - [1] - Quote I read something, somewhere that it was going to be considered the same as Botting soon. Unfortunately I cant find it, anyone else read what I am describing, and can link it, I would apreciate it. Thanks
Dave Stark 2348	Posted - 2013.04.03 12:13:00 - [2] - Quote 0/10 poor attempt, you can do better. you waste time reading this?
Rolstra Moo's Mudpit 7	Posted - 2013.04.03 12:49:00 - [3] - Quote So you didn't read it?
Spurty V0LTA Verge of Collapse 839	Posted - 2013.04.03 12:52:00 - [4] - Quote Knowing only one person that has ever used it (but aware if others), would say do not bother. Nothing here but headaches (perm bans not much fun). --- GÇ£If you think this Universe is bad, you should see some of the others.GÇ¥ GÇò Philip K. ****
Rolstra Moo's Mudpit 7	Posted - 2013.04.03 12:57:00 - [5] - Quote Yeah all I can find is this blog pointing to a change but I can't find anythign specific on it from CCP. of course even Google fails sometimes. :) Well i wasn't interested in using it I was trying to convince a corpie to not put all his time and effort into it, as I am sure the game is fun with one or even two but 15 makes it a job. http://nosygamer.blogspot.co.uk/2013/03/ccps-war-on-bots-inner-space.html
Hobgo Togenada Tinfoil Hat Club 4	Posted - 2013.04.03 13:51:00 - [6] - Quote IS Boxer: Are you Goonswarm? Yes - legal No - illegal Feel like spreading "false" rumors? Trolling random alts? Then "TINFOIL HAT CLUB" is for you! Apply today and spread the "truth."
Djana Libra The Black Ops Black Core Alliance 131	Posted - 2013.04.03 14:04:00 - [7] - Quote yes no wait.... 0/10 I'm sure someone will post the 239847293874 topics from last week on this with the dev reply stating they will not just change it blah blah
Rolstra Moo's Mudpit 7	Posted - 2013.04.03 15:02:00 - [8] - Quote Ok I can see that this topic has many fans, and even more trolls. But using the search function results in GÇÿno topics foundGÇÖ under IS Boxer, perusing the forums line by line is rather ridiculous as persisting in this course of action requires delineating 5mil troll posts from the one or two constructive and helpful posts. My question was simply: Does anyone have any information about CCPGÇÖs proposed future position on IS Boxer, and could they link that information? Lacking anything constructive to add to the conversation? Then please donGÇÖt add anything.
Pak Narhoo Splinter Foundation 929	Posted - 2013.04.03 15:15:00 - [9] - Quote Rolstra wrote: Ok I can see that this topic has many fans, and even more trolls. But using the search function results in GÇÿno topics foundGÇÖ under IS Boxer, perusing the forums line by line is rather ridiculous as persisting in this course of action requires delineating 5mil troll posts from the one or two constructive and helpful posts. My question was simply: Does anyone have any information about CCPGÇÖs proposed future position on IS Boxer, and could they link that information? Lacking anything constructive to add to the conversation? Then please donGÇÖt add anything. Search function suked in the past as much as it suks today. Better google it with 'EVE' as first search string. Other then that what I read, I don't use it since I'm on a Mac is that it uses some code that is used by botmakers for their bot sh*tware so you have a chance to be detected as 'positive' by whatever CCP is using to detect botters. If you where me I stayed on the safe side and used what most of us use a mouse and a keyboard and stay far away from anything that can even remotely be seen as automation software. Oh here: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=215648 Whatever looks like its ok. For now.
Tippia Sunshine and Lollipops 13437	Posted - 2013.04.03 15:18:00 - [10] - Quote Rolstra wrote: Ok I can see that this topic has many fans, and even more trolls. But using the search function results in GÇÿno topics foundGÇÖ under IS Boxer, If you spelled it correctly, you'd find 25 pages instead. Quote: My question was simply: Does anyone have any information about CCPGÇÖs proposed future position on IS Boxer, and could they link that information? No, and it doesn't matter anyway. Their current position is clear and well-known, and it's the only one that is of any relevance. Vote Malcanis for CSM8.
Rolstra Moo's Mudpit 7	Posted - 2013.04.03 15:22:00 - [11] - Quote Pak Narhoo wrote: Rolstra wrote: Ok I can see that this topic has many fans, and even more trolls. But using the search function results in GÇÿno topics foundGÇÖ under IS Boxer, perusing the forums line by line is rather ridiculous as persisting in this course of action requires delineating 5mil troll posts from the one or two constructive and helpful posts. My question was simply: Does anyone have any information about CCPGÇÖs proposed future position on IS Boxer, and could they link that information? Lacking anything constructive to add to the conversation? Then please donGÇÖt add anything. Search function suked in the past as much as it suks today. Better google it with 'EVE' as first search string. Other then that what I read, I don't use it since I'm on a Mac is that it uses some code that is used by botmakers for their bot sh*tware so you have a chance to be detected as 'positive' by whatever CCP is using to detect botters. If you where me I stayed on the safe side and used what most of us use a mouse and a keyboard and stay far away from anything that can even remotely be seen as automation software. Oh here: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=215648 Whatever looks like its ok. For now. Thanks that was very helpfull.
Rolstra Moo's Mudpit 7	Posted - 2013.04.03 15:24:00 - [12] - Quote Tippia wrote: Rolstra wrote: Ok I can see that this topic has many fans, and even more trolls. But using the search function results in GÇÿno topics foundGÇÖ under IS Boxer, If you spelled it correctly, you'd find 25 pages instead. Quote: My question was simply: Does anyone have any information about CCPGÇÖs proposed future position on IS Boxer, and could they link that information? No, and it doesn't matter anyway. Their current position is clear and well-known, and it's the only one that is of any relevance. And thanks to you too, having never used it I assumed the spelling would have been seperated with a space. I will peruse through those 25 pages and see if there is any clues as to the future legality of it.
Micheal Dietrich Kings Gambit Black 1429	Posted - 2013.04.03 15:45:00 - [13] - Quote Rolstra wrote: But using the search function results in GÇÿno topics foundGÇÖ under IS Boxer Rolstra wrote: of course even Google fails sometimes. :) Perhaps its the user. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=215467 https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=162999 https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=140702 https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=114732 https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=215101 https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=212935 https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=204696 https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=200503 Out of Pod is getting In the Pod - Join in game channel IG OOPE
Rolstra Moo's Mudpit 7	Posted - 2013.04.03 15:47:00 - [14] - Quote Micheal Dietrich wrote: Rolstra wrote: But using the search function results in GÇÿno topics foundGÇÖ under IS Boxer Rolstra wrote: of course even Google fails sometimes. :) Perhaps its the user. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=215467 https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=162999 https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=140702 https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=114732 https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=215101 https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=212935 https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=204696 https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=200503 Yeah it was user I thought it was 'IS Boxer' not 'ISBoxer'
b777777 State War Academy Caldari State 2	Posted - 2013.04.08 16:01:00 - [15] - Quote A mysterious question with a mysterious answer ? So it's illegal or not CCP a simple answer YES.... NO.....
Miilla Hulkageddon Orphanage 446	Posted - 2013.04.08 16:01:00 - [16] - Quote I will vote for whoever on the CSM wants to ban all automation.
Tippia Sunshine and Lollipops 13511	Posted - 2013.04.08 16:05:00 - [17] - Quote b777777 wrote: A mysterious question with a mysterious answer ? So it's illegal or not CCP a simple answer YES.... NO..... What's mysterious about the clear and unequivocal GÇ£yesGÇ¥ they have provided on numerous occasions? Miilla wrote: I will vote for whoever on the CSM wants to ban all automation. All automation is already banned. Vote Malcanis for CSM8.
b777777 State War Academy Caldari State 2	Posted - 2013.04.08 17:32:00 - [18] - Quote Tippia wrote: b777777 wrote: A mysterious question with a mysterious answer ? So it's illegal or not CCP a simple answer YES.... NO..... What's mysterious about the clear and unequivocal GÇ£yesGÇ¥ they have provided on numerous occasions? Miilla wrote: I will vote for whoever on the CSM wants to ban all automation. All automation is already banned. How do you know exactly ?
Beekeeper Bob Beekeepers Anonymous 587	Posted - 2013.04.08 17:35:00 - [19] - Quote Tippia wrote: b777777 wrote: A mysterious question with a mysterious answer ? So it's illegal or not CCP a simple answer YES.... NO..... What's mysterious about the clear and unequivocal GÇ£yesGÇ¥ they have provided on numerous occasions? Miilla wrote: I will vote for whoever on the CSM wants to ban all automation. All automation is already banned. Recently they stated, it's still ok...but it may actually break the EULA....Which is does... I wouldn't worry though, CCP will do anything to keep people buying alts.... The single biggest danger to EVE is the proliferation of ALTS! Kill an alt today! Petition for a Minimum bounty of 10 mil. Prevent useless bounties!
Micheal Dietrich Kings Gambit Black 1459	Posted - 2013.04.08 17:39:00 - [20] - Quote b777777 wrote: Tippia wrote: b777777 wrote: A mysterious question with a mysterious answer ? So it's illegal or not CCP a simple answer YES.... NO..... What's mysterious about the clear and unequivocal GÇ£yesGÇ¥ they have provided on numerous occasions? Miilla wrote: I will vote for whoever on the CSM wants to ban all automation. All automation is already banned. How do you know exactly ? Because unlike other users, Tippia can read. Out of Pod is getting In the Pod - Join in game channel IG OOPE
Jenahl Brave Newbies Inc. 14	Posted - 2013.04.08 17:42:00 - [21] - Quote I havent been on the forums long, but even I know this subject has been done to death.
Tippia Sunshine and Lollipops 13512	Posted - 2013.04.08 17:45:00 - [22] - Quote b777777 wrote: How do you know exactly ? Because-áthey-ásaid so. Beekeeper Bob wrote: Recently they stated, it's still ok...but it may actually break the EULA....Which is does... I wouldn't worry though, CCP will do anything to keep people buying alts.... More accurately: they stated that it's ok and that it does not break the EULA, because they say so. Vote Malcanis for CSM8.
Dave Stark 2479	Posted - 2013.04.08 17:51:00 - [23] - Quote Beekeeper Bob wrote: but it may actually break the EULA....Which is does... not sure if troll, or stupid as hell.... Maggie Thatcher.
Rolstra Moo's Mudpit 14	Posted - 2013.04.08 18:18:00 - [24] - Quote Well once again to make sure everyone gets it. I misspelled ISBoxer in my original search, when I came here looking for advice. I see CCP has stated they have no plans to change their plans as of now. SO IS Boxer or even ISBoxer :) is going to be a commonplace thing in eve for the foreseeable future. Thanks for the help, and sorry about the extra thread.
Micheal Dietrich Kings Gambit Black 1459	Posted - 2013.04.08 18:21:00 - [25] - Quote Rolstra wrote: is going to be a commonplace thing in eve for the foreseeable future. Did we stop using them for the moment or something because I could of sworn they were commonplace now. Out of Pod is getting In the Pod - Join in game channel IG OOPE
Beekeeper Bob Beekeepers Anonymous 587	Posted - 2013.04.08 18:41:00 - [26] - Quote Dave Stark wrote: Beekeeper Bob wrote: but it may actually break the EULA....Which is does... not sure if troll, or stupid as hell.... Have trouble with reading comprehension? "You may not use your own or any third-party software, macros or other stored rapid keystrokes or other patterns of play that facilitate acquisition of items, currency, objects, character attributes, rank or status at an accelerated rate when compared with ordinary Game play." If you can't see the point, i'll explain it to you. Person A runs twenty accounts without any software assistance. Person B runs twenty accounts with ISBoxer. If you can't see that Person B is able to facilitate the accelerated acquisition of items compared with Person A, then you need to go back to school. The single biggest danger to EVE is the proliferation of ALTS! Kill an alt today! Petition for a Minimum bounty of 10 mil. Prevent useless bounties!
Athena Maldoran Special Nymphs On A Mission 1809	Posted - 2013.04.08 19:00:00 - [27] - Quote All ISboxer users should be cooked in steaming hot oil and then banned
Dave Stark 2481	Posted - 2013.04.08 19:03:00 - [28] - Quote Beekeeper Bob wrote: Dave Stark wrote: Beekeeper Bob wrote: but it may actually break the EULA....Which is does... not sure if troll, or stupid as hell.... Have trouble with reading comprehension? "You may not use your own or any third-party software, macros or other stored rapid keystrokes or other patterns of play that facilitate acquisition of items, currency, objects, character attributes, rank or status at an accelerated rate when compared with ordinary Game play." If you can't see the point, i'll explain it to you. Person A runs twenty accounts without any software assistance. Person B runs twenty accounts with ISBoxer. If you can't see that Person B is able to facilitate the accelerated acquisition of items compared with Person A, then you need to go back to school. thank you for proving you're an idiot, at least now i know you're not a troll and you are actually that stupid. Maggie Thatcher.
Athena Maldoran Special Nymphs On A Mission 1809	Posted - 2013.04.08 19:05:00 - [29] - Quote Dave Stark wrote: Beekeeper Bob wrote: Dave Stark wrote: Beekeeper Bob wrote: but it may actually break the EULA....Which is does... not sure if troll, or stupid as hell.... Have trouble with reading comprehension? "You may not use your own or any third-party software, macros or other stored rapid keystrokes or other patterns of play that facilitate acquisition of items, currency, objects, character attributes, rank or status at an accelerated rate when compared with ordinary Game play." If you can't see the point, i'll explain it to you. Person A runs twenty accounts without any software assistance. Person B runs twenty accounts with ISBoxer. If you can't see that Person B is able to facilitate the accelerated acquisition of items compared with Person A, then you need to go back to school. thank you for proving you're an idiot, at least now i know you're not a troll and you are actually that stupid. More like you shown your true colours ;)
Stray Bullets Perkone Caldari State 41	Posted - 2013.04.08 19:09:00 - [30] - Quote Tippia wrote: b777777 wrote: How do you know exactly ? Because-áthey-ásaid so. Beekeeper Bob wrote: Recently they stated, it's still ok...but it may actually break the EULA....Which is does... I wouldn't worry though, CCP will do anything to keep people buying alts.... More accurately: they stated that it's ok and that it does not break the EULA, because they say so. Actually, the links you present show exactly the opposite. GM Lelouch redid the old post, where he said it was fine. That post was rewritten and now states they cannot say if you're breaking the EULA or not when using ISBoxer. The rest of the posts are merely saying "Our policy has not changed" which makes it all bullshit as GM Lelouch had to edit a 3 year old post saying it was ok. If this is not a stealth policy change, I don't know what is. I've had a petition open regarding this and the senior GM confirmed that they can't allow any third party software. Some other Dev came up saying that they aren't going to ban anyone for using a TS Overlay because it's stupid ... but the fact is, even a TS overlay breaks the TOS/EULA. They just choose not to enforce it.

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