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Blood Stain
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Posted - 2005.09.09 02:52:00 -
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Is it just me or has our universe become small? I loved the days when systems were still undiscovered, one or two corps romaing about in an area. Now its just a hodgepodge cluster of inconsiderate, ignorant, roid hugging, gate camping, and market monopolozing toons making you play the game they want to play.
There was once a decent community... and now I think the idea of bringing hope back to the universe is overshadowed by a bunch of meatheads who own way too much ISK and make billions by logging in 3 hours a week.
There is something wrong here... and I can't excactly put my finger on it. On one side you got people harping and whining about the "right" way to play... and on the other side you got people who just want to play the game they pay for. All I'm trying to point out is that we have too many people in this universe... myself included.
Is there not anyplace that hasnt been expolored and tagged with a huge can that annoys everyone? I'm wonderng what the intentions of the game originally were and what they became. How do we solve a community clustered together all doing the same thing over and over? I guess when if you look at it that way, thats the intent of any game.
What EVE doesnt need is constant new skills, ships, items... it needs space expansion. Give each racial region a new worm hole that sucks you in to another universe.
Ok... I think I'm done.
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SengH
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Posted - 2005.09.09 02:56:00 -
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its called 0.0.
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Blood Stain
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Posted - 2005.09.09 02:57:00 -
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Edited by: Blood Stain on 09/09/2005 02:57:51
 Originally by: SengH
its called 0.0.
yea... where you get smoked every turn you make... not an option.
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Rawne Karrde
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Posted - 2005.09.09 02:58:00 -
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Honestly leave caldari space. There is tonnes of systems not being used in other races space.
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Hllaxiu
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Posted - 2005.09.09 03:01:00 -
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Originally by: Blood Stain
yea... where you get smoked every turn you make... not an option.
You sound prejudiced. More 0.0 for the restof us I guess..
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Jewel Earli
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Posted - 2005.09.09 03:09:00 -
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I disagree. There are the rich and elite in Eve as in life. There are those who are so far ahead of me skill wise I might never catch up to them. Does this affect my Eve experience? Only to make it richer and deeper.
Just because I ain't rich and I can't hold my own in a fire fight against a veteran pilot doesn't mean the game is dead for me. I like knowing there are bigger fish than me out there. We need the Bill Gates of Eve as much as we need the front line grunt Ensign Expendables like me. One day I'll be the veteran pilot, the vet of today will be even more deadly although the rule of diminishing returns means the gap between us is smaller. Hopefully there will still be many new grunts, nuggets and noobs joining the ranks. Speaking as a nub I have to say there is a great community here. Perhaps you should spend some time with the proles?
I reckon it would be nice to add more and more systems to the 'edges' of space but I reckon CCP would like to see a bit more done with the existing 0.0 before creating more of it. There is a lot of life left in Eve as it is, add to that all the additions and it really is limitless.
Frankly it sounds to me like you have just gotten stuck in a rut and need to shake things up a bit for yourself. 
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SengH
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Posted - 2005.09.09 03:10:00 -
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its called having to interact with the people around you and not bargin in and demanding things. I'm sure if you put in the time to talk to people you could find a way to live in 0.0 as much as you want. Its never the super gankfest most people make it out to be.... I dont know alot of the problem I guess stems from the fact that when people first start the game, their told... DONT GO INTO <0.5 and ESP not 0.0 or you'll get WTFBBQED. For the new player this is pretty much true, but after 3-4 mths some basic knowledge of how to exist in 0.0 is all you need. Sure you'll lose a couple ships occasionally , but its not the total you'll get BBQed in 10s deal unless your stupid enuff to jump straight into a chokepoint/gatecamp.
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F'nog
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Posted - 2005.09.09 03:23:00 -
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Look at Players in Space once in a while. You'll notice that the majority of systems are still completely empty. Get away from the hubs and you'll have plenty of open range to play in.
Originally by: Idio T
Only two types of people I hate in this game: People who discriminate against other races, and the French.
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Layrex
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Posted - 2005.09.09 03:23:00 -
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Only empire huggers would think Eve is even remotley crowded.
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Justin Cody
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Posted - 2005.09.09 03:26:00 -
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Edited by: Justin Cody on 09/09/2005 03:25:46
Yeah bring some more traffic down to aridia...we need moneh!!
"Ill armed and half starved, they were still desperate men, to whom danger had lost all fears: for what was death that they should shun it to cling to such a life as theirs?"--- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle |
Gamer4liff
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Posted - 2005.09.09 03:47:00 -
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Get out of caldari space if you dont want to be crowded.
Head for amarr space, it is a great place to mine where you know almost everyone's name in local. Seriously amarr space is like living in the peaceful country.
yeeeep.
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Pwyle Kenobi
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Posted - 2005.09.09 03:54:00 -
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More people = more profit!
BRING IT ON!
I'm not a miner mind you, and I can understand how they might have a different view.
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Sadist
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Posted - 2005.09.09 03:58:00 -
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Eve small? Dude, they nerfed the highways last patch, wtf are you on?
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Marcsens Lil'Helper
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Posted - 2005.09.09 04:01:00 -
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Edited by: Marcsens Lil''Helper on 09/09/2005 04:01:12
Originally by: Blood Stain
Edited by: Blood Stain on 09/09/2005 02:57:51
Originally by: SengH
its called 0.0.
yea... where you get smoked every turn you make... not an option.
Not true. Absolutely not true. I for one have been living in 0.0 for most of my Eve-time (i'm playing for more than two years now) and lost maybe two or three ships in fights i didnt want to fight. You just have to act foresighted and considerate and you'll be fine.
Greetings,
Marcsen
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Jaabaa Prime
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Posted - 2005.09.09 04:11:00 -
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 @ Blood Stain
You have been playing less than 48 hours and are already ranting about EVE being too small.
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"Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former."
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Malthros Zenobia
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Posted - 2005.09.09 04:24:00 -
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I've been alone in systems 2-3 jumps off the 'highway' systems. High sec space (0.7-1.0), and only a few people coming in now and then. One place had alot of dense/concentrated veldspar, and some other mineral that was slightly better. But I hate mining, so I didn't pay attention to the name, and left because the rats there weren't worth the time. :/
I'm pretty sure you won't have a hard time being b yourself in some of the remote 0.0 systems.
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Sochin
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Posted - 2005.09.09 05:22:00 -
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Originally by: Blood Stain
Edited by: Blood Stain on 09/09/2005 02:57:51
Originally by: SengH
its called 0.0.
yea... where you get smoked every turn you make... not an option.
Maybe not an option for you, but thousands of other players live almost exclusively in 0.0 space without much complaint. I haven't been to empire in 3 months probably. I'm probably safer in 0.0 then I am in low sec empire. Plus I get to shoot whoever I want, which is always a plus.
Nemo me impune lacessit
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Blood Stain
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Posted - 2005.09.09 06:33:00 -
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Edited by: Blood Stain on 09/09/2005 06:35:21
Edited by: Blood Stain on 09/09/2005 06:33:52
Originally by: SengH
its called having to interact with the people around you and not bargin in and demanding things. I'm sure if you put in the time to talk to people you could find a way to live in 0.0 as much as you want. Its never the super gankfest most people make it out to be.... I dont know alot of the problem I guess stems from the fact that when people first start the game, their told... DONT GO INTO <0.5 and ESP not 0.0 or you'll get WTFBBQED. For the new player this is pretty much true, but after 3-4 mths some basic knowledge of how to exist in 0.0 is all you need. Sure you'll lose a couple ships occasionally , but its not the total you'll get BBQed in 10s deal unless your stupid enuff to jump straight into a chokepoint/gatecamp.
I think many of your forget the fact that to head to 0.0... you obviously have to run thru camped gates... then you have to get somewhere where you can develop... then you have to build and move your corp there... along with maintaining safety for you and your members... in addition to people claiming to own the space... alliances everywhere fighting for space... and if you are not in an alliance you might as well forget heading there... not to mention the huge bills and requirement alliances hand out to you... and lets not forget the wars against alliances then mean all flights thru empire are now forever screwed.
talk 0.0 all you want, but many dont head there, because many dont want to go there... simple facts. so if we are mostly in empire... until 0.0 is somewhat a decent place to go, the game will be based in Empire. ccp forcing those into 0.0 is not a game based on people doing what they want to do.. its then a game based on ccp manipulating players.
facts are... empire is getting crowded more every day... i'm tired of new content... we need a restructured space... more space... more empire.
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Jaabaa Prime
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Posted - 2005.09.09 06:42:00 -
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Originally by: Blood Stain
Edited by: Blood Stain on 09/09/2005 06:35:21
Edited by: Blood Stain on 09/09/2005 06:33:52
Originally by: SengH
its called having to interact with the people around you and not bargin in and demanding things. I'm sure if you put in the time to talk to people you could find a way to live in 0.0 as much as you want. Its never the super gankfest most people make it out to be.... I dont know alot of the problem I guess stems from the fact that when people first start the game, their told... DONT GO INTO <0.5 and ESP not 0.0 or you'll get WTFBBQED. For the new player this is pretty much true, but after 3-4 mths some basic knowledge of how to exist in 0.0 is all you need. Sure you'll lose a couple ships occasionally , but its not the total you'll get BBQed in 10s deal unless your stupid enuff to jump straight into a chokepoint/gatecamp.
I think many of your forget the fact that to head to 0.0... you obviously have to run thru camped gates... then you have to get somewhere where you can develop... then you have to build and move your corp there... along with maintaining safety for you and your members... in addition to people claiming to own the space... alliances everywhere fighting for space... and if you are not in an alliance you might as well forget heading there... not to mention the huge bills and requirement alliances hand out to you... and lets not forget the wars against alliances then mean all flights thru empire are now forever screwed.
talk 0.0 all you want, but many dont head there, because many dont want to go there... simple facts. so if we are mostly in empire... until 0.0 is somewhat a decent place to go, the game will be based in Empire. ccp forcing those into 0.0 is not a game based on people doing what they want to do.. its then a game based on ccp manipulating players.
facts are... empire is getting crowded more every day... i'm tired of new content... we need a restructured space... more space... more empire.
And I think there are TONS of >= 0.1 systems with few to no players in them, it would appear that you want more >= 0.5 space to move a new freighter about in and trade.
BTW You seem have very well defined views for a 48 hour old character, cut the crap and whine with your main.
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Blood Stain
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Posted - 2005.09.09 06:48:00 -
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now is there really a difference what character i use to talk? or is that an ego boost for you to think it makes me shimmer in my pants... LOL
I'm talking about new areas... new ventures... more empire for people to go to.. without dealing with the crap hacks in 0.0.... capeesh?
I think a wormhole in each 4 racial regions that allowe for 4 new universes is somthing that will eventually have to be opened up... and possibly even making each new universe ONLY accessable by that regions race. Now that will bring out a WHOLE new edge to EVE.
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mirel yirrin
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Posted - 2005.09.09 06:50:00 -
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Originally by: Blood Stain
Edited by: Blood Stain on 09/09/2005 02:57:51
Originally by: SengH
its called 0.0.
yea... where you get smoked every turn you make... not an option.
No, not really.
There are not enough people and manpower to maintain 24/7 camps everywhere, so if you wnna go live there, go :)
Join a alliance, get a small corp of 5/6 ppl and go stake a claim on a few systems in deep 0.0 
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I love Eris Discordia! She is teh sexo4
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mirel yirrin
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Posted - 2005.09.09 06:51:00 -
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Originally by: Blood Stain
now is there really a difference what character i use to talk? or is that an ego boost for you to think it makes me shimmer in my pants... LOL
I'm talking about new areas... new ventures... more empire for people to go to.. without dealing with the crap hacks in 0.0.... capeesh?
I think a wormhole in each 4 racial regions that allowe for 4 new universes is somthing that will eventually have to be opened up... and possibly even making each new universe ONLY accessable by that regions race. Now that will bring out a WHOLE new edge to EVE.
Lol :)
People will just use alts.
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I love Eris Discordia! She is teh sexo4
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mirel yirrin
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Posted - 2005.09.09 06:54:00 -
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Originally by: Blood Stain
Edited by: Blood Stain on 09/09/2005 06:35:21
Edited by: Blood Stain on 09/09/2005 06:33:52
Originally by: SengH
its called having to interact with the people around you and not bargin in and demanding things. I'm sure if you put in the time to talk to people you could find a way to live in 0.0 as much as you want. Its never the super gankfest most people make it out to be.... I dont know alot of the problem I guess stems from the fact that when people first start the game, their told... DONT GO INTO <0.5 and ESP not 0.0 or you'll get WTFBBQED. For the new player this is pretty much true, but after 3-4 mths some basic knowledge of how to exist in 0.0 is all you need. Sure you'll lose a couple ships occasionally , but its not the total you'll get BBQed in 10s deal unless your stupid enuff to jump straight into a chokepoint/gatecamp.
I think many of your forget the fact that to head to 0.0... you obviously have to run thru camped gates... then you have to get somewhere where you can develop... then you have to build and move your corp there... along with maintaining safety for you and your members... in addition to people claiming to own the space... alliances everywhere fighting for space... and if you are not in an alliance you might as well forget heading there... not to mention the huge bills and requirement alliances hand out to you... and lets not forget the wars against alliances then mean all flights thru empire are now forever screwed.
talk 0.0 all you want, but many dont head there, because many dont want to go there... simple facts. so if we are mostly in empire... until 0.0 is somewhat a decent place to go, the game will be based in Empire. ccp forcing those into 0.0 is not a game based on people doing what they want to do.. its then a game based on ccp manipulating players.
facts are... empire is getting crowded more every day... i'm tired of new content... we need a restructured space... more space... more empire.
You just want Arkronor back in 1.0 again don't you?
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I love Eris Discordia! She is teh sexo4
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Lord Jim
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Posted - 2005.09.09 06:55:00 -
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Edited by: Lord Jim on 09/09/2005 06:56:29
Originally by: blood stain
I think a wormhole in each 4 racial regions that allowe for 4 new universes is somthing that will eventually have to be opened up... and possibly even making each new universe ONLY accessable by that regions race. Now that will bring out a WHOLE new edge to EVE.
no it wont ****wit
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Blood Stain
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Posted - 2005.09.09 06:58:00 -
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Originally by: mirel yirrin
Originally by: Blood Stain
now is there really a difference what character i use to talk? or is that an ego boost for you to think it makes me shimmer in my pants... LOL
I'm talking about new areas... new ventures... more empire for people to go to.. without dealing with the crap hacks in 0.0.... capeesh?
I think a wormhole in each 4 racial regions that allowe for 4 new universes is somthing that will eventually have to be opened up... and possibly even making each new universe ONLY accessable by that regions race. Now that will bring out a WHOLE new edge to EVE.
Lol :)
People will just use alts.
what good is an alt that can't do crap?
I think its funny 0.0 egos who want people to change their ways and move out to 0.0... are just as scared of change themselves.
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Blood Stain
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Posted - 2005.09.09 07:01:00 -
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Originally by: Lord Jim
Edited by: Lord Jim on 09/09/2005 06:56:29
Originally by: blood stain
I think a wormhole in each 4 racial regions that allowe for 4 new universes is somthing that will eventually have to be opened up... and possibly even making each new universe ONLY accessable by that regions race. Now that will bring out a WHOLE new edge to EVE.
no it wont ****wit
new space wouldnt bring a whole new edge? you gotta be kidding me! HAHHAHA... new space is far better than some lame new mining drone.
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Blood Stain
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Posted - 2005.09.09 07:02:00 -
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Originally by: mirel yirrin
Originally by: Blood Stain
Edited by: Blood Stain on 09/09/2005 06:35:21
Edited by: Blood Stain on 09/09/2005 06:33:52
Originally by: SengH
its called having to interact with the people around you and not bargin in and demanding things. I'm sure if you put in the time to talk to people you could find a way to live in 0.0 as much as you want. Its never the super gankfest most people make it out to be.... I dont know alot of the problem I guess stems from the fact that when people first start the game, their told... DONT GO INTO <0.5 and ESP not 0.0 or you'll get WTFBBQED. For the new player this is pretty much true, but after 3-4 mths some basic knowledge of how to exist in 0.0 is all you need. Sure you'll lose a couple ships occasionally , but its not the total you'll get BBQed in 10s deal unless your stupid enuff to jump straight into a chokepoint/gatecamp.
I think many of your forget the fact that to head to 0.0... you obviously have to run thru camped gates... then you have to get somewhere where you can develop... then you have to build and move your corp there... along with maintaining safety for you and your members... in addition to people claiming to own the space... alliances everywhere fighting for space... and if you are not in an alliance you might as well forget heading there... not to mention the huge bills and requirement alliances hand out to you... and lets not forget the wars against alliances then mean all flights thru empire are now forever screwed.
talk 0.0 all you want, but many dont head there, because many dont want to go there... simple facts. so if we are mostly in empire... until 0.0 is somewhat a decent place to go, the game will be based in Empire. ccp forcing those into 0.0 is not a game based on people doing what they want to do.. its then a game based on ccp manipulating players.
facts are... empire is getting crowded more every day... i'm tired of new content... we need a restructured space... more space... more empire.
You just want Arkronor back in 1.0 again don't you?
if i wanted arkronor i'd go to 0.0 you muppet.  
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Kar Brogan
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Posted - 2005.09.09 07:05:00 -
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Originally by: Blood Stain
now is there really a difference what character i use to talk? or is that an ego boost for you to think it makes me shimmer in my pants... LOL
I'm talking about new areas... new ventures... more empire for people to go to.. without dealing with the crap hacks in 0.0.... capeesh?
I think a wormhole in each 4 racial regions that allowe for 4 new universes is somthing that will eventually have to be opened up... and possibly even making each new universe ONLY accessable by that regions race. Now that will bring out a WHOLE new edge to EVE.
Your views will normally gain more support if you believe in them strongly enough to tie the reputation of your main to it.
But, forgetting that for now, at any given time there are at least a hundred empire systems totally empty, totally deviod of people and full of nice fat roids, stations and agents for you to utalise.Granted most of these are 0.4 and below, but if you want to be the explorer doing new things you have to be ready for risk.
As for your problems with 0.0, being unable to run through the camps and set up logistical support all in one day....jeez learn to walk before you can run. NOTHING worthwhile in eve can be accomplished in one day.
1.Negotiate access with a 0.0 alliance
2.Time your entry to co-incide with when the choke point camp is controlled by said alliance
3.Utalise said alliances logistical support, while building your own
4.After a long hard slog of building you own support, forming contacts,getting respect and learning the area roll the dice and go it alone.
5.?
6.profit (sorry had to be done)
It is THIS level of organisation,diplomacy and teamwork that is the next level of eve.If,as you wanted, empire space was suddenly expanded with new wormholes it would just be the same old crap your doing now, but with a different system name.
I hope that clears it all up
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Blood Stain
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Posted - 2005.09.09 07:10:00 -
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Originally by: Kar Brogan
Originally by: Blood Stain
now is there really a difference what character i use to talk? or is that an ego boost for you to think it makes me shimmer in my pants... LOL
I'm talking about new areas... new ventures... more empire for people to go to.. without dealing with the crap hacks in 0.0.... capeesh?
I think a wormhole in each 4 racial regions that allowe for 4 new universes is somthing that will eventually have to be opened up... and possibly even making each new universe ONLY accessable by that regions race. Now that will bring out a WHOLE new edge to EVE.
Your views will normally gain more support if you believe in them strongly enough to tie the reputation of your main to it.
But, forgetting that for now, at any given time there are at least a hundred empire systems totally empty, totally deviod of people and full of nice fat roids, stations and agents for you to utalise.Granted most of these are 0.4 and below, but if you want to be the explorer doing new things you have to be ready for risk.
As for your problems with 0.0, being unable to run through the camps and set up logistical support all in one day....jeez learn to walk before you can run. NOTHING worthwhile in eve can be accomplished in one day.
1.Negotiate access with a 0.0 alliance
2.Time your entry to co-incide with when the choke point camp is controlled by said alliance
3.Utalise said alliances logistical support, while building your own
4.After a long hard slog of building you own support, forming contacts,getting respect and learning the area roll the dice and go it alone.
5.?
6.profit (sorry had to be done)
It is THIS level of organisation,diplomacy and teamwork that is the next level of eve.If,as you wanted, empire space was suddenly expanded with new wormholes it would just be the same old crap your doing now, but with a different system name.
I hope that clears it all up
I guess you're right... golly. I'm a moron... sorry for the lame opinion folks. I just wanted to be somebody! 
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Persia
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Posted - 2005.09.09 07:50:00 -
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Originally by: Blood Stain
I guess you're right... golly. I'm a moron... sorry for the lame opinion folks. I just wanted to be somebody!
You can't be somebody in Empire space, you are just another face in the crowd. 0.0 is where it's at if you really want to build a legacy.
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MaiLina KaTar
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Posted - 2005.09.09 08:53:00 -
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Edited by: MaiLina KaTar on 09/09/2005 08:53:23
Originally by: Blood Stain
I think many of your forget the fact that to head to 0.0... blahblah
Sometimes I think the mods should put up a post starting with that sentence and some more standard whining phrases and make it a sticky so the whiners can just copy and paste.
Call it "Magix Whine Maker" or something...
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Sku1ly
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Posted - 2005.09.09 09:29:00 -
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Stop whining you daft bastard.
The place isn't too small, you're just too small minded to see. You join an alliance, you move in with them in the middle of nowhere. On my average trip from Empire to Home I see perhaps two people. Two people in thirty six different systems. Not very crowded.
If you want to insult me go ahead, at least i show my opinion and don't hide behind my Alt.
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NoNameNewbie
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Posted - 2005.09.09 09:36:00 -
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lol
10/10 in the whine of the day vote ....
boohoo we need more space .. pffft lol ... CCP should nerf the **** out of agents and bring back the good times with ppl in 0.0
Empire = major anoyance, so nerf it !
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Rodge
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Posted - 2005.09.09 10:40:00 -
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Most times when I'm playing, I run a feed on eve-live.
I go through 0.0 chokepoints every night, you can watch if you like.
It's a carebear myth that chokepoints are camped 23/7. They're not.
A few are camped more often than others (EC-P8R is the most camped, HED-GP is usually pretty busy too), but entry ways like G-5EN2, KBP7, 1-SMEB, 6-C(the one beside reblier), P3EN, M-O (beside Taisy) are all empty for vast portions of the day. I go to these places looking for a fight and I can't find anyone!
I travel through low sec and 0.0 all the time, rarely see anyone at all. Eve seems quite empty to me, so it's certainly not time to open up new systems in my view.
I'll bet if CCP could go back and do it again, one thing they'd change is putting L4 agents in 0.5+ at all. Even though their rewards have been trimmed, they still give people too much reason to stay in Empire and lead to systems like Oursulaert having 300+ people in them at a time.
[ 2005.04.17 00:34:30 ] Nagilam > u better leave Rodge, u will not gank any1 else 2nite......
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darth solo
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Posted - 2005.09.09 11:21:00 -
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Originally by: Blood Stain
Edited by: Blood Stain on 09/09/2005 02:57:51
Originally by: SengH
its called 0.0.
yea... where you get smoked every turn you make... not an option.
the dudes got a point, most alliances have came up with the silly idea that if its not BLUE, shoot it policy outwith their own area..... kinda poor and makes them pirates in my eyes.
d solo.
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Ithildin
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Posted - 2005.09.09 11:43:00 -
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Originally by: Blood Stain
Edited by: Blood Stain on 09/09/2005 02:57:51
Originally by: SengH
its called 0.0.
yea... where you get smoked every turn you make... not an option.
The problem isn't getting shot at in 0.0, most alliances have such poor security that it'd be simple to mine there. The problem is getting into 0.0 because the entry systems are almost ALL choke points. Where choke points are needed, they aren't needed in the entry systems.
Originally by: darth solo
the dudes got a point, most alliances have came up with the silly idea that if its not BLUE, shoot it policy outwith their own area..... kinda poor and makes them pirates in my eyes.
d solo.
There are several comments that can be made about this post. I'll try to avoid flaming, however, as I do not agree with you.
Suffice to say that there's a few reasons that alliances have an NBSI policy (cheers for the PR coop of NBSI alliance, by the way): a) "innocent" spies, b) belligerent bastards, c) real pirates, and d) unregistered enemy alliance pilots.
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Brolly
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Posted - 2005.09.09 11:48:00 -
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We had more space in the cosmos patch didn't we?. Anyhoo's, simple mining solution is find a place in gallente or amarr space if you want to play it safe ( the only places you can find all base minerals minerals ). D
o the old F10> pilots in space in the last 30 minutes and you'll find lost of systems with few residents or visitors. Once you've found a potential system look for stations and any services, then scout down there and check it out.
There are also plenty of 0.1-0.5 systems no-one frequents, the only downside is poor refineries but the upside is the occasional bit of zyd to balance it out in your favour.
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Summersnow
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Posted - 2005.09.09 12:38:00 -
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Originally by: NoNameNewbie
lol
10/10 in the whine of the day vote ....
boohoo we need more space .. pffft lol ... CCP should nerf the **** out of agents and bring back the good times with ppl in 0.0
Empire = major anoyance, so nerf it !
I'd much rather see them split servers and make an all 0.0 server with concord removed completely, gank away baybe and a carebear server where the only pvp allowed is via consensual wardecs and a third server just like the one we got with the death penalty lessened.
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MaiLina KaTar
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Posted - 2005.09.09 12:46:00 -
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Originally by: Summersnow
I'd much rather see them split servers and make...
This is pretty much my horror vision of Eve
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Moneta
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Posted - 2005.09.09 13:08:00 -
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Originally by: MaiLina KaTar
Originally by: Summersnow
I'd much rather see them split servers and make...
This is pretty much my horror vision of Eve
And mine,
none of them would work, thats the problem.
Originally by: Aneu Angellus
Iv held back from posting on this thread for quite some time, but i think the time had come for me to come in and post.
Aneu
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Magnum VII
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Posted - 2005.09.09 13:16:00 -
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Edited by: Magnum VII on 09/09/2005 13:16:57
Would you like some cheese with that whine?
Give me a brake will ya? You complaining there are people in an online game? Someone to interact with? Oh noooo! That is so terrible.
I go to 0.0 all the time and back to 1.0, it is fun and exciting both ways. And I do missions for agents. No way!!!
Get in groups or just be tactical or just don't buy a ship with your last isk and take it out to 0.0 and it's good to go.
Ah whatever, go play X2 and youÆll have space all to your self, it feels dead in that game, the makers tried but it just can't help but feel dead.
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Jonkai
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Posted - 2005.09.09 13:18:00 -
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Think you mis-understood Darth, Alliances that shoot people 'out off their own claimed space'.
Anyhoo... all this alliance stuff sucks 
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Spy4Hire
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Posted - 2005.09.09 13:47:00 -
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OP, dude, your name is Blood Stain, that in itself means 'kill me now, pleaze?' *LOL*
Seriously, EvE is far from crowded once you get out and away from the hub systems. I hunt regularly in 0.0 in a system not far from a station and I very, very rarely see anyone in local for more time than it takes to go from gate to gate (And my hunting grounds are on a highway).
Buck up, grow a pair, join a good strong PvP corp, and come out to 0.0 where the adolecents play.
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HUGO DRAX
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Posted - 2005.09.09 14:21:00 -
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I was in PF-346 and let me tell you it was empty, real empty.
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Magnum VII
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Posted - 2005.09.09 14:52:00 -
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If we do what the OP want, then the entire reason for EVE will be thrown out the window.
Because EVE is supposed to be were as the people playing the game are the ones running it.
Concord is not supposed to run the game like he wants.
Hay OP/Blood Stain, would you like a PESONAL worm hole to your OWN Galaxy?
What's the matter, did you get popped? And now you're jilted right?
Come on Boold Stain, don't be like all these whiners in all these MMOG's.
You are missing the point of EVE, I hope you find it.
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RedlegSA
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Posted - 2005.09.09 15:48:00 -
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I am in Empire because I am pretty new - I have ventured out in .3 and .4 and got nailed out there so I figured I needed more skills before I can survive beyond that. In any case, I am staying mainly in .5 areas and have not seen an overcrowding problem. In fact the system we frequent now has some really good folks in it and there is alot of cooperation which is nice.
A related item - at what point for a newer player would survival be possible in .0? I am anxious to see whats out there.
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Quanteeri
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Posted - 2005.09.09 15:54:00 -
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I think the OP should take a look at the map, then toggle between the SecRating views and Population views.
There's a ton of low sec available for the taking, much of it not too far from the hubs.
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CargoCult
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Posted - 2005.09.09 15:56:00 -
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at what point can you surivie?
Independatly - well probably wait till you can fly some (any ship well) 2 months maybe?
join and allready present corp
any time...
thought the earilyer you go our the more limited in what you can DO thier you will be - 0.0 rats are a bit of a jump up
suggestion
try flying out to the station rich areas of 0.0 like syndicate - A thier less chock pointed and B they have lots of places to hide
All the right letters, just not nescacarily in the right order - morcam and wise
Its not working sir!
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Demarcus
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Posted - 2005.09.09 16:15:00 -
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There is a bunch of empty space that CCP hasn't opened yet (Jove and some huge 0.0 regions next to it). Look at your f'n map before running your mouth.
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Siri Danae
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Posted - 2005.09.09 18:50:00 -
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Oy. There are 1000 systems in empire with less than 4 people on at any given moment, even on weekends. 500 of them are .5 and higher. If you can't find them, you're not looking hard enough.
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Rod Blaine
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Posted - 2005.09.09 19:01:00 -
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Edited by: Rod Blaine on 09/09/2005 19:01:29
I fully agree, eve is becoming much to crowded.
CCP, please terminate with expedient demise the accounts of all members of newb corps that have been playing longer then 6 months.
that should take care fo the issue, next.
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OffBeaT
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Posted - 2005.09.09 19:40:00 -
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the day always comes in eve when you or your corps have to get out there and grow up.. so i would say its time for you too step out into 00 and start making a stand about your belifs you wont too live buy in the game. that means if you got too fight for it then thats what you got too do i guess. it ant just gona hppen for you. you got to do it for yourself.
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Kroma BaSyl
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Posted - 2005.09.09 20:54:00 -
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Originally by: Rod Blaine
Edited by: Rod Blaine on 09/09/2005 19:01:29
I fully agree, eve is becoming much to crowded.
CCP, please terminate with expedient demise the accounts of all members of newb corps that have been playing longer then 6 months.
that should take care fo the issue, next.
LMAO....signed
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Doppleganger
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Posted - 2005.09.09 21:36:00 -
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Originally by: Rod Blaine
I fully agree, eve is becoming much to crowded.
CCP, please terminate with expedient demise the accounts of all members of newb corps that have been playing longer then 6 months.
that should take care fo the issue, next.
Yeah thats a good idea.
Do that plus limit each person playing eve to one account only...... oh wait CCP likes that extra $$
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Goldengamegod
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Posted - 2005.09.10 00:42:00 -
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Edited by: Goldengamegod on 10/09/2005 00:46:55
Edited by: Goldengamegod on 10/09/2005 00:42:09
After reading a few of the OP rants it's obvious that he/she does not understand the simple concept of risk vs reward.
It is also obvious that the OP has either not played that long (alt. or no), or has only gone into 0.0 once.
EDIT: or both...
2004.12.11 03:07:32notifyThe Serpentis Mercenary is too far away, you need to be within 54625 meters of it but are actually 13193590680251 meters away.
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Sorja
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Posted - 2005.09.10 01:11:00 -
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0.0 is mostly wasted space.
Let's look at the west of Tribute region, e g, crap rats, crap roids, no complex, few stations, nobody goes there, many Empire systems are better.
On the other hand, some other regions are overcrowded because it's actually half possible to live out there if you have a patience thaaaaaaaaaat big and can have fun with belt hunting or mining *yawns*
There is plenty of 0.0 space much safer than low sec Empire atm, that should change for new alliance to emerge.
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Lorzon
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Posted - 2005.09.10 02:17:00 -
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Except to get to that supposedly "safe" region of 0.0 you gotta go through all the existing Alliance spaces.
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Cerberal
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Posted - 2005.09.10 03:19:00 -
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Edited by: Cerberal on 10/09/2005 03:23:12
FFS, i went into 0.0 my second month playing, there was no gate camp, then i strolled through more systems only to find people happily joking amongst each other in local. I was only in a Cyclone and yet none of them shot me. I revisited 0.0 a month later, and the deeper i went the less people i saw. I politely asked if i could hunt 0.0 rats in "Their" space and they were fine with it. At the time i couldnt take on the rat BS's solo, but the cruiser spawns were nice for me. I even ended up working together with some of the corp's members in that sector for belt hunting.
As for empire, every day i stroll through its all about Exploiting/Macroing/overpricing items to sell. The sad fact is that a lot of people DONT like working together, and are in it for SELF gain. Empire is perfect for this, you have your safe space, your pretty agents, your trade routes. Hell you can go AFK most the time while running trade routes, or mine in high security space while drinking coffee and watching TV. God forbid you actually have to play the game a bit in 0.0, or talk to people and socialize a bit.
Im gonna go calm down now, maybe drink coffee and watch TV...laters
Edit: In fact, the most fun ive had in empire was recently when i took on a mission for the RSS, got to my destination and it turned out another guy had the same mission, less than 15km from me, and got there at the same time
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CelticKnight
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Posted - 2005.09.10 07:31:00 -
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i bet 100k isk that the OP posted this because he decided to go mining in like, rens or somewhere.. mined a can and had a Stealer pinch it!! :)
I found a lovely way around stealers... mine in a system with NO STATIONS! :) hell.. even if it was a 1.0 (theres one near Rens) People wont steal in it because teh noobs, and non hardcore miners really CANNOT be bothered :) whereas.. i just mine happily, fill my can, my alt hauls said can 2 jumps to a station, and comes back for more!
Considering my alts instas 4tw.. easy, and FAST!
No stealers. more ore than anywhere else! :)
in a 0.7 just behind Reset.... there was a MAX of 4 people :) and they were ALL my corp.. dragged there by me :)
Easy! dont sit around where there are 60 - 200 people and expect to mine in peace!! Be adventurous :) devise a tank setup if need be.. or, just mine where there are no stations!! :P If you want to join me on my Carebearing safe (relatively so..) systems... Come Join me at RRJDS CORP :)
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