Kill It With Fire.........does it make me a bad person when I think how lame some of your pilots are for fielding a carrier against our little corp after killing a legion of yours?

I was there...

Even if the numbers were balanced (130 vs 110), i admit that we had a huge fleet composition.

110? We had less than half that number http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_related&kll_id=17075714

But kudos for being so quick. Also the logistic work of moving so many caps is impressive.

But i'd like to know : how many rolls did you do before finding Loveshack ?

Day 2, probably 200-300 WHes....We K1-ed into our home twice.

Talocan also attempted rolling to join the fight but without success.

Great fight folks, thank you!

Polarized. perspective:

http://evenews24.com/2013/04/04/battle-report-video-operation-patty-cake/

Thanks to everyone that gave us a good fight. It would have been very boring without you!

I hope this is the last big engagement we see like this for a while... Personally, i want to see C5/C6 dwellers move away from all this blue blob and arranged fight BS.

p.s that was a very we put together video. Thanks for sharing.

[31-Mar-13 18:26:37] Cipreh --: also I am paying handsomely for a kspace route into the TL wormhole
[31-Mar-13 18:26:53] Cipreh --: because we have been rolling for 3 days straight
[31-Mar-13 18:26:57] Cipreh --: over 340 wormholes
[31-Mar-13 18:27:01] Cipreh --: and still not gotten in

n++[ 2013.04.03 02:51:30 ] Bane Nucleus > i expected this to be the beginning
n++[ 2013.04.03 02:51:32 ] Kais Murtan > that was a bunch of folks going hey, lok, an opportunity
n++[ 2013.04.03 02:51:33 ] Bane Nucleus > not the end
n++[ 2013.04.03 02:51:41 ] Kais Murtan > if you wanted a fight you would hav let them in
n++[ 2013.04.03 02:51:46 ] Kais Murtan > not this 6v1 ****
n++[ 2013.04.03 02:51:54 ] Bane Nucleus > who said we wanted a fight?
n++[ 2013.04.03 02:52:00 ] Kais Murtan > max
n++[ 2013.04.03 02:52:06 ] Vincent Gaines > Chista
n++[ 2013.04.03 02:52:12 ] Kais Murtan > hathrul
n++[ 2013.04.03 02:52:13 ] fox weik > BANE! got more songs yet?
n++[ 2013.04.03 02:52:14 ] Bane Nucleus > ah i am unaware of that

n++[ 2013.04.03 02:36:02 ] Bane Nucleus > if i wanted to take, you wouldnt have had a choice
n++[ 2013.04.03 02:36:02 ] Vincent Gaines > You asked we go with you, or we leave
n++[ 2013.04.03 02:36:07 ] Vincent Gaines > that's not really asking
n++[ 2013.04.03 02:36:08 ] Tanaka Atsuko > you may have killed the flag runner but we still control the flag
n++[ 2013.04.03 02:36:15 ] Bane Nucleus > i asked to take the name
n++[ 2013.04.03 02:36:19 ] Bane Nucleus > i didnt demand
n++[ 2013.04.03 02:36:26 ] Kalseth > did you guys not see the chat logs of the conversation with gunner ?
n++[ 2013.04.03 02:36:33 ] Bane Nucleus > if i wanted to take, i would have just booted you guys
n++[ 2013.04.03 02:36:37 ] Bane Nucleus > and told you tough luck
n++[ 2013.04.03 02:36:53 ] Vincent Gaines > You must have missed the idea for Inhale.
n++[ 2013.04.03 02:36:54 ] Bane Nucleus > that was never the intention
n++[ 2013.04.03 02:36:58 ] Bane Nucleus > we were leaving
n++[ 2013.04.03 02:37:01 ] Bane Nucleus > with our without the name

and




Please, sirs, allow me a moment to interject from the en24 circlejerk.

(By the way, you all were hardly "covert")

This will be a quick personal statement, as I am not a TL diplo, leader, or any sort of person that pretends to be important in a game.


We, as in TL, have always provided "good fights" to anyone we rolled into or rolled into us. Any alliance can attest to us. We have no only provided fights, but have fought when we shouldn't we have fought in glorious 3 ways. We have fought in a null dive, only to come back and reship to armor to engage another WH entity.

We recall a time SSC caught some of us with Ventures- they let us go, we reshipped into armor, and we had a fight. This is Transmission Lost.

Most of us were not in the alliance when it was Narwals. There goes that excuse.

Hey guys,

Just wanted to say Zer01 + POSHU had lots of fun with this operation. Although we have friends on both sides of this conflict we had alot of fun being the defenders for once . Either way all of our guys had lots of fun on comms and we enjoyed shooting each other haha. Hopefully we can all move forward from this and resume the good fights soon. I hope to see you all on the battlefield.

2) This was not an EA op. We were invited by Polarized to attend. The credit for the hard work and planning should go to them.

3) No one was ever paid to attend this operation. People were either motivated by what they thought would be a huge fight, or people just didn't like TL.

4) I am in fact butthurt. Sitting on my ass for three days rolling a c5 static will do that.

Thanks to everyone that gave us a good fight. It would have been very boring without you!

I hope this is the last big engagement we see like this for a while... Personally, i want to see C5/C6 dwellers move away from all this blue blob and arranged fight BS.

p.s that was a very well put together video. Thanks for sharing.

Its pretty simple to stop this blobbing bullshit, stop invading a single entity with like 6 allainces do it yourself for fucksake then ppl wouldnt be trying to coem help the person being invaded, i know for a fact if 1 group invaded another and they asked us for help we would tell them to **** off

Vincent Gaines you truly need to get a new tune. I am busy so will keep this short.

Bane went to gunner and explaned that some people wanted to leave TL and that he would like to take the name. He gave him time to talk it out and said things like "I do not want to be a ****" and "want to give you guys time to talk about it". The reply was to do a midnight vote to change ownership with an alt corp putting it over the top. This is also with MOST of the corps acually in the allaince not being on the on the councel and able to vote.

Bane came to the loveshack guys and tried to talk about it and they did a midnight take over. SO all deniels of there being some shaddy business needs to .. how did you say it. STOP RIGHT NOW.

EA was asked to join polarized. We did not start this we where ask to come in. No one was paid.

You KNEW for 3 days that we where rolling in and did NOTHING until the last day. Then did not have any courdination with your Alliess when they did get in to help. THEN through a ***** fit at them for trying to help.

I know that nothign we say will change your mind. Arguments can legititmly made about eveictions vrs fights and so forth. Mabye your leadership should conduct themself in such a way that they do not annoy so many people to this lvl.

n++[ 2013.04.03 03:02:44 ] Bane Nucleus > the hate for dj is trong
n++[ 2013.04.03 03:02:49 ] Bane Nucleus > strong*
n++[ 2013.04.03 03:02:57 ] Bane Nucleus > lol
n++[ 2013.04.03 03:02:58 ] fox weik > LOL!
n++[ 2013.04.03 03:03:20 ] Vincent Gaines > Hating in a game is kinda ********.

Seeing the fleet that came to support Hard Knocks when they got invaded, it would have been a tactical error to not get extra support. Face it, the bat phone is here to stay in wormhole space, whether we like it or not. Once we heard SSC was coming to help, we expected a HUGE fleet to come help.

Also, we were rolling for three days prior to getting in, which was known to just about everyone in wh space. Why TL didn't use that time to prepare better is a mystery to me.

Lastly, I want to clear up a few things I have heard over the last few days.

1) My group was never booted from TL. No one was ever booted from TL. We had planned to leave and that is what happened.

2) This was not an EA op. We were invited by Polarized to attend. The credit for the hard work and planning should go to them.

3) No one was ever paid to attend this operation. People were either motivated by what they thought would be a huge fight, or people just didn't like TL.

4) I am in fact butthurt. Sitting on my ass for three days rolling a c5 static will do that.

Nobody twisted 1%'s arm. Nobody twisted R-NAT's arm. DDOWN industry was put in months before this happened. Who was discussing tin-foil again? I don't even need to bring up the name issue. Both Bane and yourself have shown that it's still a painful memory and really you should just let it go.

Of course, seems like you couldn't when Cipreh came on comms Monday evening asking for the name back.

We knew you were coming, we knew the names of your scouts. We dispatched at least one and had another in just a pod. We knew you were rage rolling to get in, and we kept sig watch and hole control for 3 days. We did not "do anything" if you are referring to batphoning because we don't run to friends at the first sign of trouble. Only with an unlucky roll did you get in, and it's actually hilarious irony how it happened.

Lastly, regarding TL leadership. EA leadership has held no qualms about hating on DJ. It's well known.



As I said there, it's kinda stupid (I used a different word).

And I can only laugh when people think of DJ as some kind of mastermind. But hey, the less you know the better

I never said that this was a long standing plot or that the alt corp was brought in for that porpose. I did say that Bane went with good intentions and got spit in the face. Which you have convinently keep on ignoring in your replys.

I could care less about the Name .. i was in TL for like a month before this all went down. I have no axe to grind I am just speaking about what happened and my prosptective in it.

You did batphone before they got in. You just sucked at cordination once you did.

I haver not commented ont he invastion vrs good fight thing becuase I do not know abotu that .. and unlike you I can acually admit it.

Now I remember you. You never even flew with us... your opinion means absolutely nothing.

Please don't waste my time.

This was not a contract as is the usual motivation of a mercenary alliance, but a simple adventure to encourage a fight.

At this time, Polarized./Existential/Atztek took wormhole control with a fleet of fifty sub-capital ships.

We knew you were coming, we knew the names of your scouts. We dispatched at least one and had another in just a pod. We knew you were rage rolling to get in, and we kept sig watch and hole control for 3 days. We did not "do anything" if you are referring to batphoning because we don't run to friends at the first sign of trouble. Only with an unlucky roll did you get in, and it's actually hilarious irony how it happened.

Thirdly, I can totally relate to your painful multi day rolling session so you can evict a group of players with whom you parted on poor terms. Yeah this whole thing was for good fights for sure Roll

Unlike some of you I don't believe in using a lot of words when a few will do.

Was there for a big fight. OP Success.

Obvious you weren't looking for a real fight by hitting on a Monday. This is of course your right, and tactically sound. That being said you still got one.

You did batphone before they got in. You just sucked at cordination once you did.

You KNEW for 3 days that we where rolling in and did NOTHING until the last day.

Same stuff after every invasion regardless of outcome.. Glad we didn't show up

gfs

Yeah... no. As someone who was involved in talking with other diplo's while the rolling was going down, we said time and time again to other pvp groups "We will not batphone until they do". I had offers for groups to seed in with us on Friday and Saturday, and we turned them down because we are not faggots who need other people to do our fighting for us on even terms.

We willfully kept people from allying with us and out of our hole, until you guys showed your true colors and had 6 alliances in our hole with 100+ peeps. Could we have gotten alot more in before you were physically in the hole. Of course. If I had to do it all over again, would I have tried getting blues in earlier? Hell no. W-space should not be the place where this silly meta-gaming and politics takes place. And if it is, well congrats, you now have one less target to shoot at whom normally would take any fight we possibly could.

Then I was wrong sorry about that point.

My other points still stand though.

Edit ... this is too funny DJ https://soundcloud.com/terumah/omg-we-all-died

Then I was wrong sorry about that point.

My other points still stand though.

Edit ... this is too funny DJ https://soundcloud.com/terumah/omg-we-all-died

Edit ... this is too funny DJ https://soundcloud.com/terumah/omg-we-all-died
I cried.

Its pretty simple to stop this blobbing bullshit, stop invading a single entity with like 6 allainces do it yourself for fucksake then ppl wouldnt be trying to coem help the person being invaded, i know for a fact if 1 group invaded another and they asked us for help we would tell them to **** off

[Mister Al on EvE-ru is also stating that w-space was batphoned in anticipation of a batphone. G

-Æ -+-+-+-¦-¦-¦-+-î-+-+-¦ -¦-¦-ç-¦-Ç-+-+ -¦-+-+-¦-¦-¦-é -+-¦-+-Å -+-¦-+-+ -+-+ -¦-+-Ç-¦-¦-é-+-Ç-+-¦ -ò-É -+ -+-+-é-¦-Ç-¦-ü-â-¦-é-ü-Å, -+-¦ -¦-¦-+-¦-¦-+--+-+ -+-ï -+-+-+-+-ç-î -ü -ó-¢. -¥-¦-é, -ü -ü-¦-+-+-+-+ -ó-¢ -+-+-+ -â-¦-¦ -+-Ç-+-é-Å-+-â-é-ï-+ -¦ -ü-+-ü-é-¦-+-â -ü-+-Ç-¦-¦-Å-é-ü-Å, -+-+ -ó-¢ -¦-¦-é-ä-+-+-Å-é -¦-ü-æ, -ç-é-+ -+-+-¦-+-+ -+ -+-¦-+-î-+-Å. -¥-¦ -é-+-é -+-+-+-¦-+-é -â-¦-¦ -¦-ï-+-+ -+-+-¦-¦-ü-é-+-+, -ç-é-+ -+-+-+-+-¦-¦-é-î -+-+ -ü-+-¦-+-Ç-¦-¦-é-ü-Å -é-â-ü-+-¦-¦-¦ SSC/VoC/KILL/HK -+ -¦-ï-+-+ -ü-+-â-à-+, -ç-é-+ -+-+-¦-¦-é -¦-à-¦-Ç-+-ï -é-+-¦-¦ (-¦-Ç-+-¦-¦ -+-+-é-+-+ -+-¦ -+-+-¦-é-¦-¦-Ç-¦-+-+-+-ü-î, -+-+ -¦-Ç-¦-¦-+-¦-¦ -+-¦-Ç-¦ -+-ï -+-à -+-¦ -¦-+-¦-¦-+-+).

On the monday morning one of EA dirs convoed me and asked whether we want to help with TL. He said that TL itself is manageable but TL batphoned whatever it could and could not - it was known that ssc/voc/kill/hk are coming + rumors of aharm coming.

Its pretty simple to stop this blobbing bullshit, stop invading a single entity with like 6 allainces do it yourself for fucksake then ppl wouldnt be trying to coem help the person being invaded, i know for a fact if 1 group invaded another and they asked us for help we would tell them to **** off

Learn some russian before quoting eve-ru.
Direct quote.

i literally cannot believe I'm about to say this but ... I couldnt agree with ROSS more.
AHARM were asked to join this horrible blob fest too and personally I could not think of anything I wanted to do less then join in.

bottom line is no one here was interested in a fight.
the attackers came for an eviction and brought the numbers to ensure they would not get a good fight.
(the horrible blobbing they got to do was not a fight...)

Hey Rythm aren't you the neo-National Socialism Party white-supremacist from Fon's CSM thread?

Welcome!

)))

Learn some russian before quoting eve-ru.
Direct quote.

I am anarcho syndicalist if that matters but nonetheless thanks for the welcome.

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Oh noes, what wil I do without knowing Russian? And now for a real lesson in Russian. You will notice that the Russian version of the "-¦-¦-é-ä-+-+-Å-é" is an active voice verb as opposed to your translation to "batphoned" which is a passive voice. The implications are staggering, it literally means that TL is still in the process of batphoning while w-space is being batphoned. THUS bringing me to my original point of w-space being batphoned because the defenders who were already outnumbered had the audacity to ask for help. If you want to get schooled again I offer private lessons...

I believe that using google translate does not equate to being native speaker. In that context it meant that all invited people are coming. Russian is a tad more difficult language than pidgin english sorry ~

Here is example for your translation pleasure.
-» -é-¦ -¦-+-+-î-ê-¦ -ü-¦-¦-¦-â. -º-¦-+-+-¦-¦-¦ -+-+-¦-¦-é -ü-+-+-¦-¦ -ü-+-+-¦-+-¦-+-+ -+-¦-ü-é-¦-+-+ -+-¦-+-Å-é-î -+-é -¦-+-¦-+-+-¦-ü-¦-+-¦-+ -¦ -+-é-+-+-ç-+-+. -ÿ-+-+ -+-+-+-â-é-¦-¦-é -¦-Ç-¦-+-¦-+-¦. -ô-â-¦-+-î -é-Ç-¦-+-ü-+-¦-¦-é -ç-¦-Ç-¦-+ -ì-é-+ -+-Ç-+-à-+-¦-+-é -¦ -¦-¦-+-+-¦-+-¦ -â-¦-+-¦-+-¦-+-+-¦.

Little kid, you should tell me more about the interchangeable nature of [the] words in [a] sentence formulation within the Russian language. Right now you are making so many hilarious assumptions, I just want you to keep going purely out of the profound amusement [that?] you are providing. [Please/Pray] Do tell me more.

You've made a couple of grammatic mistakes native to the speakers of the slavic languages. I assume you that hail from some tiny baltic country. This explains your tone and envy. You have to practi-üe more in russian to be able to properly understand the modern version.

-¥-â -+ -ç-â-¦-+-¦ -é-ï -+-¦-Ç-+-+-ê-¦. -Æ-¦-Ç-+-ê-î -+-¦-é -Ç-â-ü-ü-¦-+-¦ -é-ï -+-¦-+-+ -ä-+-¦ -+-+-+-+-+-¦-¦-ê-î -ç-¦-Ç-¦-+ -+-¦-+-î--¦-+-+-+-¦-â, -ç-é-+-¦-ï -é-ï -+-¦ -¦-+-+-¦-Ç-¦-¦-¦-+ =)

I hate breaking up the party here, but this is way off topic.

Ya we tried that, AHARM and the rest of the circle jerk didn't approve.

Talocan also attempted rolling to join the fight but without success.

Pot meets Kettle, circa Dec. 1 2012.

You've said a lot of mean things Gnaw, but that is just low

As far as i understood current attackers gathered on the grounds that its going to be hard knocks round 2 and it was pretty much expected to see the blob.

That is correct. After seeing the fleet that was mustered for the Hard Knocks defense, you have to plan for that. It would be silly and self defeating not to.

Yeah... no. As someone who was involved in talking with other diplo's while the rolling was going down, we said time and time again to other pvp groups "We will not batphone until they do". I had offers for groups to seed in with us on Friday and Saturday, and we turned them down because we are not faggots who need other people to do our fighting for us on even terms.

We willfully kept people from allying with us and out of our hole, until you guys showed your true colors and had 6 alliances in our hole with 100+ peeps. Could we have gotten alot more in before you were physically in the hole. Of course. If I had to do it all over again, would I have tried getting blues in earlier? Hell no. W-space should not be the place where this silly meta-gaming and politics takes place. And if it is, well congrats, you now have one less target to shoot at whom normally would take any fight we possibly could.

But.. but... you chose the "noble route" of not seeding "blue" forces and you paid the price. You did no fighting of your own. You showed up on field promising a triage carrier not once, but multiple times to SSC. Where was your dedicated triage carrier(s)? Oh, yeah, logged off. You ****** them and you ****** yourself. Burn, Loveshack, burn. You may have brought "gfs" at one time but when you're counted on, you disappoint. No regrets had here, even if you brought "gfs" in the past. Learn to wormhole.

~snip~

Lol theres these things called jobs and careers. Some of us have them. Most of our cap pilots were at work when the big fight went down. You know the sort of thing that's to be expected when an invasion begins on a Monday

I personally came for a big fight, not for the removal of TL from LS.

the truth is... tlost does have more kills than aharm since the start of the year

Don't think that people in other alliances are basement dwellers who don't have jobs.
It would have been a much more interesting fight if TL support would have POSed Up or Logged Off for a more coordinated fight later on.

I personally came for a big fight, not for the removal of TL from LS.

9 Bhalls LOL I counted 11.. We here fur good fites derp

QUICK 1 Bhall per logi.. We got this..

you seem jelly of my bhaal fleet friends.

9 Bhalls LOL I counted 11.. We here fur good fites derp

QUICK 1 Bhall per logi.. We got this..

Actually I spead out my neuts

you seem jelly of my bhaal fleet friends.

Invasion? Eviction*

Seriously? Is there going to be a moral council after each invasion any WH group does? For a game that is famous for being a sandbox and having no rules, WH space sure has a lot of rules! It's funny how infiltrating a WH corp and tearing it down from the inside gets less moaning responses than an invasion...

Please, let's just play the game in stead of moaning about how others play it.

Well my guess was correct. "Hell hole of a country", some stupid rudeness and a lack of the ability to put proper articles when needed. While he maybe was born and lived in the glorious city of st. petersburg he definitely forgot russian and he is from some poor ethnicity opressed by the communists otherwise i just do not understand this existential anger. Or maybe its just his life... i do not know. Anyway back to the spaceships.

As far as i understood current attackers gathered on the grounds that its going to be hard knocks round 2 and it was pretty much expected to see the blob.

Well with that all being said, no more POS bashings for me, for a while.

POLARIZED DOESN'T BLOB

There's a difference between looking for a fight and looking for a guaranteed win.

Why would anyone evict someone with less than required force?

"Hey guys, lets try to evict LOST, but this time we do it so that we probably won't win and then people get to post on EVE-O how bad Exhalerized.com.dot.dot are at evictions, it'll polish our merc brand"

There's a difference between trolling for GFs and actually booting people out of their home. Whether or not LOST deserved the treatment they got is between them, obviously there was some sort of beef.

But now it's over, and everybody can get back to agreed fights with no podding and nothing really at stake, make new temp blues and all is fine in w-space again.

Just hoping that all those pvp'ers from TLOST will regroup and go for revenge!

I'm quite on the same page there.

You can't deny that the eviction led by the agressors was very well executed - they wanted to grind TL out of their system and they accomplished that. Though only from hearing, the environment did not seem to promote a GF.

Just hoping that all those pvp'ers from TLOST will regroup and go for revenge!

The thing is that they still say it was for good fights and not an eviction, why won't they admit is was not for goodfights?
I can understand that you release false information before you go in, but not after the fact... .

I think we always expect/look for good fights when we face a big wormhole group but in this case, we wanted to wipe the system out as well.

Wasn't that responsibility on you guys?

We had a good fight with SSC. It's a shame that the defence side couldn't have organised things a little better and made better decisions but this is just the way things go so times.

I have no hard feeling towards any of you guy and i can understand people getting upset but i'm sure LT will be back stronger than ever, which is a good thing in my book.

Wasn't that responsibility on you guys?

We had a good fight with SSC. It's a shame that the defence side couldn't have organised things a little better and made better decisions but this is just the way things go so times.

I have no hard feeling towards any of you guy and i can understand people getting upset but i'm sure LT will be back stronger than ever, which is a good thing in my book.

Derath Ellecon, you don't know what you are talking about so stay out of this unless you can get your facts straight.

Vincent Gaines, i have no control over your feeling i simply answered the question your wanted to know. But perhaps you are right and i shouldn't have been so courteous, so this is the last post i will make in this thread. o/

Derath Ellecon, you don't know what you are talking about so stay out of this unless you can get your facts straight.

Vincent Gaines, i have no control over your feeling i simply answered the question your wanted to know. But perhaps you are right and i shouldn't have been so courteous, so this is the last post i will make in this thread. o/

So much for all the smoke about gudfights, eh?

TRANSMISSION LOST that pvp corp who brings all the dreads (at least 20) when a 50 man t3 fleet jumps into their wormhole.
TRANSMISSION LOST that pvp corp who put up a fight and didn't self destruct ANY SHIPS inside the pos forcefields.
TRANSMISSION LOST the pvp corp who is really organized and disciplined when a someone tries to help them and promises them that TRIAGE IS ABOUT TO LAND on fleet comms.
OH trasmission lost, you bunch of capable and really good pvpers, you put up a real good fight. Just like someone who's about to get raped but thinks that he/she likes it

Any other entitiy and we would have fought with anything to the end.

Well you've obviously SHOWED THAT to everyone. Cause you guys have honor and ****. right. you make me laugh

I don't think I'll lose any sleep over it.