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Mikhem
Taxisk Unlimited
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Posted - 2013.04.06 12:33:00 -
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When I came to EVE 2007 there was lots of capsuleer shipwrecks at high sec gates and near stations. One "profession" I took was that I salvaged those shipwrecks and got isk from them. Nowadays I rarely see shipwrecks at highsec gates or near highsec stations.
I created this thread to ask what has changed in recent years? Why shipwrecks have vanished? Has there been decrease in shipwreck despawn timers or something like that? Mikhem
Before Retribution I was lonely guy. After Retribution Im now WANTED. Bee sound effect |

ElQuirko
Jester Syndicate WHY so Seri0Us
1229
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Posted - 2013.04.06 12:34:00 -
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Fewer gankers. Try near jita, they'll be centralised there - although you'll probably have to fight the professional gankers to get at the wrecks before they get looted and salvaged. CISPA - Readin' your secret corptheft mails since 2012 |

silens vesica
Corsair Cartel
1252
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Posted - 2013.04.06 12:38:00 -
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HiSec has grown increasingly dangerous for Gankers. Look near ice belts if you want wrecks to salvage. Tell someone you love them today, because life is short. But scream it at them in Esperanto, because life is also terrifying and confusing.
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Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
4047
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Posted - 2013.04.06 13:06:00 -
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Mikhem wrote: I created this thread to ask what has changed in recent years? Why shipwrecks have vanished? Has there been decrease in shipwreck despawn timers or something like that?
They adapted so they do not die. There is much to be said in favour of modern journalism. By giving us the opinions of the uneducated, it keeps us in touch with the ignorance of the community.-á-á-á-á - Oscar Wilde |

snake pies
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
86
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Posted - 2013.04.06 13:15:00 -
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more people have trained salvagers and aren't afraid to loot and run |

Pepper Mind
Spicy Enterprises
18
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Posted - 2013.04.06 13:19:00 -
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Wrecks can camp now, cloaked |

baltec1
Bat Country
5826
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Posted - 2013.04.06 13:20:00 -
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Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:Mikhem wrote: I created this thread to ask what has changed in recent years? Why shipwrecks have vanished? Has there been decrease in shipwreck despawn timers or something like that?
They adapted so they do not die.
They have done no such thing. We simply salvage the stuff ourselves. |

Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
4047
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Posted - 2013.04.06 13:26:00 -
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I kinda noticed this too, tbh. There is not nearly as much stuff floating aound gates as a few years ago.
If I was in my Prowler, I'd salvage most of the time, but I just don't see the wrecks anymore.
Best ever was a Blue Can by a gate in Genesis. Upon opening it contained 4 6-Packs of Quafe Zero. Strange thing to deliberately abandon for sure. There is much to be said in favour of modern journalism. By giving us the opinions of the uneducated, it keeps us in touch with the ignorance of the community.-á-á-á-á - Oscar Wilde |

Rengerel en Distel
Amarr Science and Industry
1310
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Posted - 2013.04.06 13:47:00 -
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So you saw an opportunity to make nearly risk free isk, and assumed no one else EVER would decide to do the same thing? Okay.
With the increase in shiptoasting, the Report timer needs to be shortened.
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Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
4047
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Posted - 2013.04.06 13:48:00 -
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Rengerel en Distel wrote:So you saw an opportunity to make nearly risk free isk, and assumed no one else EVER would decide to do the same thing? Okay.
Who exactly is this aimed at. Makes no sense tbh. There is much to be said in favour of modern journalism. By giving us the opinions of the uneducated, it keeps us in touch with the ignorance of the community.-á-á-á-á - Oscar Wilde |

Angelique Duchemin
Serenity Prime Kraken.
397
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Posted - 2013.04.06 13:59:00 -
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Other people are taking the wrecks. Simple as that. We miss you Saede. |

Turelus
Caldari Independent Navy Reserve The Fourth District
334
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Posted - 2013.04.06 14:59:00 -
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Head over to the Onirvura constellation and wait for Red vs Blue to have a fight, you'll find some wrecks!  [00:18:15] Intex Encapor > THIS NOW IN: TURELUS 5% MORE BITTER THAN INTEX |

Lord Zim
2345
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Posted - 2013.04.06 15:18:00 -
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Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:They adapted so they do not die. By learning to yell "daddy I made a poopoo, new nappy please", not by making any actual changes in how they themselves do things. Cyno's lit, bridge is up, but one pilot won't be jumping home. RIP Vile Rat |

Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
4047
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Posted - 2013.04.06 16:08:00 -
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Lord Zim wrote:Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:They adapted so they do not die. By learning to yell "daddy I made a poopoo, new nappy please", not by making any actual changes in how they themselves do things.
Actually, my comment is simply a lame joke. There is much to be said in favour of modern journalism. By giving us the opinions of the uneducated, it keeps us in touch with the ignorance of the community.-á-á-á-á - Oscar Wilde |

Fredfredbug4
Eve Defence Force Tribal Band
651
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Posted - 2013.04.06 16:20:00 -
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Much more players now than in 2007 (even really isn't dying).
More players results in more competition.
More competition results in less wrecks to be salvaged. I accidentally my assets, is this bad?-á |

David Grogan
The Motley Crew Reborn End of Life
317
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Posted - 2013.04.06 20:06:00 -
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Mikhem wrote:When I came to EVE 2007 there was lots of capsuleer shipwrecks at high sec gates and near stations. One "profession" I took was that I salvaged those shipwrecks and got isk from them. Nowadays I rarely see shipwrecks at highsec gates or near highsec stations.
I created this thread to ask what has changed in recent years? Why shipwrecks have vanished? Has there been decrease in shipwreck despawn timers or something like that?
because of noctis there are few wrecks on gates in high sec Everytime you buy something that says "made in china" you are helping the rising unemployment in your own country unless you are from china, Buy locally produced goods and help create more jobs. |

Rengerel en Distel
Amarr Science and Industry
1312
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Posted - 2013.04.07 00:37:00 -
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Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:Rengerel en Distel wrote:So you saw an opportunity to make nearly risk free isk, and assumed no one else EVER would decide to do the same thing? Okay.
Who exactly is this aimed at. Makes no sense tbh.
Sorry, guess i should have quoted the OP when making a response to his thread.
With the increase in shiptoasting, the Report timer needs to be shortened.
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Ace Uoweme
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
95
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Posted - 2013.04.07 00:40:00 -
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Lord Zim wrote:Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:They adapted so they do not die. By learning to yell "daddy I made a poopoo, new nappy please", not by making any actual changes in how they themselves do things.
Brit even... "In a world of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." ~George Orwell
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Hessian Arcturus
S.W.O.R.D. Navy
4
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Posted - 2013.04.07 03:07:00 -
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Wasn't it true that you also couldn't warp to zero on a gate unless you had a bookmark saved? I don't know when that changed as I didn't play EVE until this year. But wouldn't that be a benefactor? It's human nature to want to explore. To find your line and go beyond it. The only limit, is the one you set yourself. |

Da Dom
Wii R
44
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Posted - 2013.04.08 21:24:00 -
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You should have seen it when they introduced the dueling mechanic.
Wrecks were everywhere...
If your liberty is won by others then you are not free, you are merely protected. You who have enjoyed freedom, who have done nothing to earn it, your time has come. This time you will stand alone and fight for yourselves. Now you will pay for your freedom in the currency of honest toil and human blood |

Setaceous
Nexus Prima
21
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Posted - 2013.04.08 21:34:00 -
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Lord Zim wrote:Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:They adapted so they do not die. By learning to yell "daddy I made a poopoo, new nappy please", not by making any actual changes in how they themselves do things. Well actually, most newbies do a bit of research beforehand or get popped on Autopilot just once and then they learn how to approach a gate so that the high sec campers have no time to lock. Hell even in low sec I can easily avoid most campers in my T1 barely trained cargo ship due to them forgetting that advanced targeting skills are just as important as weapon skills :P
And if I do get shot up in low, it's normally my own stupid fault. |

DeMichael Crimson
Republic University Minmatar Republic
6452
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Posted - 2013.04.08 22:26:00 -
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No shipwrecks at gates anymore due to suicide gankers having loot/salvage alts.
The power of 2 strikes again.
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