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BOOFER
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Posted - 2005.09.11 15:48:00 -
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Edited by: BOOFER on 11/09/2005 15:50:11
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BOOFER
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BOOFER
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Posted - 2005.09.11 15:48:00 -
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BOOFER
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Posted - 2005.09.11 15:48:00 -
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Edited by: BOOFER on 11/09/2005 15:50:11
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Valdi
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Posted - 2005.09.11 15:48:00 -
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Edited by: Valdi on 11/09/2005 15:53:19
Wraithstorm u do know that catch is in the middle of stain and empire.. so going threw catch is something we need to do when travelling to empire.
and now ur tellin us that we're KOS in catch ??
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BOOFER
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Posted - 2005.09.11 15:49:00 -
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Edited by: BOOFER on 11/09/2005 15:51:27
Edited by: BOOFER on 11/09/2005 15:49:49
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Stupid lagg 
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BOOFER
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Posted - 2005.09.11 15:49:00 -
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Edited by: BOOFER on 11/09/2005 15:51:27
Edited by: BOOFER on 11/09/2005 15:49:49
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Stupid lagg
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Kcel Chim
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Posted - 2005.09.11 15:49:00 -
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Edited by: Kcel Chim on 11/09/2005 15:51:10
 Originally by: Kozak
We still have assets in Stain and Paragon Soul. The war will be officially over when the tags of either alliance stop flying through Stain Region.
Thats due to gamemechanics impossible unless everyone leaves one of the tags. Closed space is "open" to t1 frigs as any empire system is.
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The war goes on.
You still don't get Omyst back.
You don't have Catch.
Ironically none of the above is actually your achievement.
Ascn took omyst, Fix too catch and the only thing u are even part of is getting beaten up so the war goes on.
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You can say with certainty that SA has won? I don't see it. Last night Species was flying patrol through the corridor, we saw a couple of SA member in shuttles and an intercepor go through within a couple of hours. Catch, Stain, Paragon Soul was comletely empty on the map. Sure looks like SA won to me  (Extreme Sarcasm)
the rest is pretty much rabble rabble rabble.
As for the op now trying to shift blame to 5, please dont attempt to lie here.
5 did not engage SE within your borders the only handfull kills actually scored were frigs in catch.
5 offered their support after you gained support from V and others, without you whining on the forums about it or telling them you "want to solve it yourself", shows abit of doublemoral here or ?
If members left you because we declared support of SA then maybe your internal arguments werent strong enough to tie your alliance together. Seems pretty weak if a mere standing change already makes you break.
As a conclusion after this post it seems our leadership was wise enough to set our money on the right horse.
edit: im sure ascn will keep word and hand over omyst shortly after reading through your post where u admit that u gave up on stain and just strike as a guerilla troop now instead of beeing the upright governmental institution.
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Kcel Chim
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Posted - 2005.09.11 15:49:00 -
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Edited by: Kcel Chim on 11/09/2005 15:51:10
Originally by: Kozak
We still have assets in Stain and Paragon Soul. The war will be officially over when the tags of either alliance stop flying through Stain Region.
Thats due to gamemechanics impossible unless everyone leaves one of the tags. Closed space is "open" to t1 frigs as any empire system is.
Quote:
The war goes on.
You still don't get Omyst back.
You don't have Catch.
Ironically none of the above is actually your achievement.
Ascn took omyst, Fix too catch and the only thing u are even part of is getting beaten up so the war goes on.
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You can say with certainty that SA has won? I don't see it. Last night Species was flying patrol through the corridor, we saw a couple of SA member in shuttles and an intercepor go through within a couple of hours. Catch, Stain, Paragon Soul was comletely empty on the map. Sure looks like SA won to me (Extreme Sarcasm)
the rest is pretty much rabble rabble rabble.
As for the op now trying to shift blame to 5, please dont attempt to lie here.
5 did not engage SE within your borders the only handfull kills actually scored were frigs in catch.
5 offered their support after you gained support from V and others, without you whining on the forums about it or telling them you "want to solve it yourself", shows abit of doublemoral here or ?
If members left you because we declared support of SA then maybe your internal arguments werent strong enough to tie your alliance together. Seems pretty weak if a mere standing change already makes you break.
As a conclusion after this post it seems our leadership was wise enough to set our money on the right horse.
edit: im sure ascn will keep word and hand over omyst shortly after reading through your post where u admit that u gave up on stain and just strike as a guerilla troop now instead of beeing the upright governmental institution.
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Trina Tron
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Posted - 2005.09.11 15:51:00 -
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So basicly your going to shoot people.
hmmmmm
I like it 
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Trina Tron
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Posted - 2005.09.11 15:51:00 -
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So basicly your going to shoot people.
hmmmmm
I like it
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Dr Tetrahydrocannabinol
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Posted - 2005.09.11 15:54:00 -
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Originally by: SeverusSnape
Originally by: Wraithstorm
Again, our respect to SA/SE forces yesterday. Great display of honor from both sides.
You mean how the server crashed and the fix blobb got inside fat unharmed 
server didnt crash
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Dr Tetrahydrocannabinol
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Posted - 2005.09.11 15:54:00 -
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Originally by: SeverusSnape
Originally by: Wraithstorm
Again, our respect to SA/SE forces yesterday. Great display of honor from both sides.
You mean how the server crashed and the fix blobb got inside fat unharmed
server didnt crash
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Kantar
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Posted - 2005.09.11 15:54:00 -
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Originally by: BOOFER
Originally by: Kantar
This is my personal opinion.........
So basically you and FOFF took all the assets and minerals out of Stain yours and SEL ( that btw dont belong to you) give FAT to FIX and now threating us with your gank squad ( finally),
quile the rest of the corp in SE get slaughter in sounth you didnt move a finger to help them?
Well Cujo we all saw what kind of leader you are your intrest first.
I only got respect for the corp that fight agaist us feel sorry for them to have belived you.
Many saw thru what you was really up to but few didnt and left out in dry.
My 2 cent.
Your 2 cents aint worth 2 cents. FOFF does not have any access to the Stain Dollar funds. That was and is controlled by Internal Affairs, and as far as I know its still there. As for leaving corps to be slaughtered? As I understand it the corps you refer to are kicking your arse. Xenobytes and IGS have been doing heavy damage to your fleets with very small losses. Our gank squad threatning you finally? We have been threatining you constantly and running you off. I have made personal challenges and none has taken me up on it.
Thats my 2 pence and we all know thats more valuable than 2 cents :)
Erm......are you playing EVE or some other game?
The only battle FOFF been involve is the forum one unless your people fly under another corp tag.
Anyway 2 cents this days are not worth anything but so is your words.
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Kantar
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Posted - 2005.09.11 15:54:00 -
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Originally by: BOOFER
Originally by: Kantar
This is my personal opinion.........
So basically you and FOFF took all the assets and minerals out of Stain yours and SEL ( that btw dont belong to you) give FAT to FIX and now threating us with your gank squad ( finally),
quile the rest of the corp in SE get slaughter in sounth you didnt move a finger to help them?
Well Cujo we all saw what kind of leader you are your intrest first.
I only got respect for the corp that fight agaist us feel sorry for them to have belived you.
Many saw thru what you was really up to but few didnt and left out in dry.
My 2 cent.
Your 2 cents aint worth 2 cents. FOFF does not have any access to the Stain Dollar funds. That was and is controlled by Internal Affairs, and as far as I know its still there. As for leaving corps to be slaughtered? As I understand it the corps you refer to are kicking your arse. Xenobytes and IGS have been doing heavy damage to your fleets with very small losses. Our gank squad threatning you finally? We have been threatining you constantly and running you off. I have made personal challenges and none has taken me up on it.
Thats my 2 pence and we all know thats more valuable than 2 cents :)
Erm......are you playing EVE or some other game?
The only battle FOFF been involve is the forum one unless your people fly under another corp tag.
Anyway 2 cents this days are not worth anything but so is your words.
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Qell
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Posted - 2005.09.11 15:55:00 -
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A few, unrelated comments:
To the 5 pilot who claimed that 5 chose to side with the stronger side: I'm fairly sure that SA only became the stronger side when 5 aligned with them, causing several SE corps to jump ship.
ASCN are the only entity involved that look able to retain any dignity.
SA had better hope that 5 don't have any ulterior motives, because they wouldn't stand a chance if 5 had their eyes on the Stain regions.
Stain is dying. Regardless of who wins the civil war, that side will be substantially weaker than the old SE or original SA. One of the neighbouring alliances will take advantage of that and wade in. |
Qell
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Posted - 2005.09.11 15:55:00 -
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A few, unrelated comments:
To the 5 pilot who claimed that 5 chose to side with the stronger side: I'm fairly sure that SA only became the stronger side when 5 aligned with them, causing several SE corps to jump ship.
ASCN are the only entity involved that look able to retain any dignity.
SA had better hope that 5 don't have any ulterior motives, because they wouldn't stand a chance if 5 had their eyes on the Stain regions.
Stain is dying. Regardless of who wins the civil war, that side will be substantially weaker than the old SE or original SA. One of the neighbouring alliances will take advantage of that and wade in. |
Wraithstorm
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Posted - 2005.09.11 15:55:00 -
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Edited by: Wraithstorm on 11/09/2005 15:56:34
FIX does not claim the travel Corridors people. Read the post, and if you think youve read it do me the favor and read it again. The border lines drawn are clear cut and precise. you do not need access through our borders for travel purposes.
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Wraithstorm
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Posted - 2005.09.11 15:55:00 -
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Edited by: Wraithstorm on 11/09/2005 15:56:34
FIX does not claim the travel Corridors people. Read the post, and if you think youve read it do me the favor and read it again. The border lines drawn are clear cut and precise. you do not need access through our borders for travel purposes.
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BOOFER
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Posted - 2005.09.11 15:57:00 -
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Originally by: Kcel Chim
As for the op now trying to shift blame to 5, please dont attempt to lie here.
5 did not engage SE within your borders the only handfull kills actually scored were frigs in catch.
5 offered their support after you gained support from V and others, without you whining on the forums about it or telling them you "want to solve it yourself", shows abit of doublemoral here or ?
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Guess ill have to dig up that screeny of 5 pilots in DSS, or the multiple kill mails by 5 pilots? V offered to shoot SA if they entered their space..... If they were way over there they deserved to be shot for desertion. So hardly a comparison.
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BOOFER
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Posted - 2005.09.11 15:57:00 -
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Originally by: Kcel Chim
As for the op now trying to shift blame to 5, please dont attempt to lie here.
5 did not engage SE within your borders the only handfull kills actually scored were frigs in catch.
5 offered their support after you gained support from V and others, without you whining on the forums about it or telling them you "want to solve it yourself", shows abit of doublemoral here or ?
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Guess ill have to dig up that screeny of 5 pilots in DSS, or the multiple kill mails by 5 pilots? V offered to shoot SA if they entered their space..... If they were way over there they deserved to be shot for desertion. So hardly a comparison.
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Hithero Wolf
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Posted - 2005.09.11 15:57:00 -
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Originally by: Proconsul Para
You mean Catch is now FIXs, and I have to go like, ermm... "Hi FIX, can I travel thru to HED-GP ?" and stuff !?
IMHO, FIX desided to become a part of this war and try and take Catch. Cujo cant give away what isnt his. SE had no control over any space, that was all in SA hands.
Now again, imho, if FIX wants to part of this war, it suits me well, Cujo and his merry men didnt put up much of a fight. Hopefully FIX will.
Cujo tried to sell Catch to FIX so he could get a safe backdoor to hump all his riches out while leaving the rest of SE to dry in 0.0.
Catch is contested since FIX is trying to claim it. The rest is SA since Cujo and his merry men is leaving for empire.
Note, these are my personal opinions and not MASS official.
I applaud those SE that made a stand. Those who sold them out while securing their own riches, be ashamed.
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Hithero Wolf
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Posted - 2005.09.11 15:57:00 -
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Originally by: Proconsul Para
You mean Catch is now FIXs, and I have to go like, ermm... "Hi FIX, can I travel thru to HED-GP ?" and stuff !?
IMHO, FIX desided to become a part of this war and try and take Catch. Cujo cant give away what isnt his. SE had no control over any space, that was all in SA hands.
Now again, imho, if FIX wants to part of this war, it suits me well, Cujo and his merry men didnt put up much of a fight. Hopefully FIX will.
Cujo tried to sell Catch to FIX so he could get a safe backdoor to hump all his riches out while leaving the rest of SE to dry in 0.0.
Catch is contested since FIX is trying to claim it. The rest is SA since Cujo and his merry men is leaving for empire.
Note, these are my personal opinions and not MASS official.
I applaud those SE that made a stand. Those who sold them out while securing their own riches, be ashamed.
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BOOFER
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Posted - 2005.09.11 16:00:00 -
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Originally by: Kantar
Originally by: BOOFER
Originally by: Kantar
This is my personal opinion.........
So basically you and FOFF took all the assets and minerals out of Stain yours and SEL ( that btw dont belong to you) give FAT to FIX and now threating us with your gank squad ( finally),
quile the rest of the corp in SE get slaughter in sounth you didnt move a finger to help them?
Well Cujo we all saw what kind of leader you are your intrest first.
I only got respect for the corp that fight agaist us feel sorry for them to have belived you.
Many saw thru what you was really up to but few didnt and left out in dry.
My 2 cent.
Your 2 cents aint worth 2 cents. FOFF does not have any access to the Stain Dollar funds. That was and is controlled by Internal Affairs, and as far as I know its still there. As for leaving corps to be slaughtered? As I understand it the corps you refer to are kicking your arse. Xenobytes and IGS have been doing heavy damage to your fleets with very small losses. Our gank squad threatning you finally? We have been threatining you constantly and running you off. I have made personal challenges and none has taken me up on it.
Thats my 2 pence and we all know thats more valuable than 2 cents :)
Erm......are you playing EVE or some other game?
The only battle FOFF been involve is the forum one unless your people fly under another corp tag.
Anyway 2 cents this days are not worth anything but so is your words.
Kantar, havent seen you either. You been hiding under a rock obviously as you seem so uninformed. If you want FOFF we are always there and willing, would love to see you.
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BOOFER
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Posted - 2005.09.11 16:00:00 -
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Originally by: Kantar
Originally by: BOOFER
Originally by: Kantar
This is my personal opinion.........
So basically you and FOFF took all the assets and minerals out of Stain yours and SEL ( that btw dont belong to you) give FAT to FIX and now threating us with your gank squad ( finally),
quile the rest of the corp in SE get slaughter in sounth you didnt move a finger to help them?
Well Cujo we all saw what kind of leader you are your intrest first.
I only got respect for the corp that fight agaist us feel sorry for them to have belived you.
Many saw thru what you was really up to but few didnt and left out in dry.
My 2 cent.
Your 2 cents aint worth 2 cents. FOFF does not have any access to the Stain Dollar funds. That was and is controlled by Internal Affairs, and as far as I know its still there. As for leaving corps to be slaughtered? As I understand it the corps you refer to are kicking your arse. Xenobytes and IGS have been doing heavy damage to your fleets with very small losses. Our gank squad threatning you finally? We have been threatining you constantly and running you off. I have made personal challenges and none has taken me up on it.
Thats my 2 pence and we all know thats more valuable than 2 cents :)
Erm......are you playing EVE or some other game?
The only battle FOFF been involve is the forum one unless your people fly under another corp tag.
Anyway 2 cents this days are not worth anything but so is your words.
Kantar, havent seen you either. You been hiding under a rock obviously as you seem so uninformed. If you want FOFF we are always there and willing, would love to see you.
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Kcel Chim
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Posted - 2005.09.11 16:00:00 -
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Originally by: BOOFER
Guess ill have to dig up that screeny of 5 pilots in DSS, or the multiple kill mails by 5 pilots? V offered to shoot SA if they entered their space..... If they were way over there they deserved to be shot for desertion. So hardly a comparison.
might have been a fleet moving in there from patrolling the corridor as its not too far however Killboard doesnt mention 100s of missing SE kills so i guess we are talking here about the odd handfull blown out of proportion to make you look "underdoggish" ?
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Kcel Chim
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Posted - 2005.09.11 16:00:00 -
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Originally by: BOOFER
Guess ill have to dig up that screeny of 5 pilots in DSS, or the multiple kill mails by 5 pilots? V offered to shoot SA if they entered their space..... If they were way over there they deserved to be shot for desertion. So hardly a comparison.
might have been a fleet moving in there from patrolling the corridor as its not too far however Killboard doesnt mention 100s of missing SE kills so i guess we are talking here about the odd handfull blown out of proportion to make you look "underdoggish" ?
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Tri33er
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Posted - 2005.09.11 16:02:00 -
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Stin Empare weel dye!
dam, rong caroter :/
ok so heres the deal, SE will retain its title & all previous claims to said regions except Catch which we glady gave to FIX,all SA are either 0.0 or -10 which means your dead both ways. We are now at liberty to conduct a guerilla tactics around any region we choose, the subversive tactics that MASS employed cant work anymore as we have no real goal apart from disruption & mayhem for the time being.
Enjoy your 'stronger stain' & dont reply with 'omg how could you do this to stain' we dont care anymore for the people who used the VIRII problem to stab cujo & then jump into bed with them so readily, shame on you.
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Tri33er
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Posted - 2005.09.11 16:02:00 -
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Stin Empare weel dye!
dam, rong caroter :/
ok so heres the deal, SE will retain its title & all previous claims to said regions except Catch which we glady gave to FIX,all SA are either 0.0 or -10 which means your dead both ways. We are now at liberty to conduct a guerilla tactics around any region we choose, the subversive tactics that MASS employed cant work anymore as we have no real goal apart from disruption & mayhem for the time being.
Enjoy your 'stronger stain' & dont reply with 'omg how could you do this to stain' we dont care anymore for the people who used the VIRII problem to stab cujo & then jump into bed with them so readily, shame on you.
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BOOFER
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Posted - 2005.09.11 16:05:00 -
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Originally by: Kcel Chim
Originally by: BOOFER
Guess ill have to dig up that screeny of 5 pilots in DSS, or the multiple kill mails by 5 pilots? V offered to shoot SA if they entered their space..... If they were way over there they deserved to be shot for desertion. So hardly a comparison.
might have been a fleet moving in there from patrolling the corridor as its not too far however Killboard doesnt mention 100s of missing SE kills so i guess we are talking here about the odd handfull blown out of proportion to make you look "underdoggish" ?
If you want to quote me do a decent job of it. I never said 100s, do not try to twist my words to justify what cant be justified. But there are plenty from the pipe. Not unusual places to find you guys, but you were actively hunting us which kinda makes a difference. As for being around DSS there were quite a few little raiding parties. But if you want more proof have a look at your own original post announcing hostilies.... I beleive he said "See you in DSS" .... Not so?
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