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Cujo	Posted - 2005.09.11 14:46:00 - [1] The SE/SA conflict will proceed. But this time it will be on our terms. All of this could have been avoided and there was a agreement made which Trigger reneged on. Since then we still tried to negotiate a peace. We offered to give SA the Stain region and our support. We also offered to drop the SE name at their request and all we ask in return was the Catch region.... it was rejected. But in SA's arrogance's and greed for power and publicity they have lost more than to be seen at the moment. If everyone would have let us fight this war without outside interference the situation wouldn't have become as inflated as it did. The Five Alliance claim that they had no part in it. This is not true. By the 5 declaring support for SA it caused SE members to jump ship. With that statement alone caused more damage than any fleet battle. The 5 Alliance set us to a negative standing and started blockading the Catch corridor as well as sending pilots into Stain space. This negative standing came with the post with SA's intention. We have always had good relations with the 5 until then. With FIX's desire to obtain FAT-6P it created a 3 front war which we could not win. If the 5 was and supposably still not involved then why are we still set negative? BoB has earned the respect of SE for not getting involved. SE also respects ASCN for trying to keep it at least fair and working in a neutral manner in an attempt to see this matter resolved. At no time did SE try to recruit outside help. The Catch region was the Stain Empires property and the Empire was well within our rights to deal it to FIX. So a deal with the Stain Empire and the FIX Alliance for the entire Stain claimed Catch region was made. The property lines are as stated. HY-RWO where the super hwy leads to the FAT area and the back route through Catch which starts at MY-W1V. From these two systems all the way to 4-0. We will continue to keep the Stain Empire name as a reminder to all of eve how big Alliance's can corrupt. It will also be a strong reminder to all of SA who chose to stand behind an inactive power hungry person who wanted to be called Emperor. The only thing Trigger has done is kill Stain forever. SA publicly stated their intentions so we will state ours. At this point it is the Stain Empires intention to regroup and continue aggressions against SA now that outside forces are not getting involved. We have intentionally dealt the Catch region and placed resources through out Stain space. Now we have nothing to defend or lose. As soon as were settled and regrouped, Stain will be invaded by multiple gank squads with the sole purpose of killing SA people. Split groups will be sent in different populated areas through out Stain to disrupt all SA corporate operations. We will not negotiate and we will not leave until SA is broken up. If you have SA in your description or bio you will be KOS. Any corporation contacting us informing SE of their departure from SA will be set to a positive standing. Stain will not be a safe place to live. We have tried to be a prominent property holding figure within the southern region offering support to all our neighbors, after seeing where it got us we have thrown politics out the window..... (translation) We don't care what anyone thinks. If we are agressed by other Alliances we will make a home in your space. What we are asking is that outside alliances stay out of this conflict. ------------------------------
shivan	Posted - 2005.09.11 14:48:00 - [2] Signed Species forever Loyalty for Life --------------------------------------- (\_/) (O.o) (> <) This is Bunny. Copy Bunny into your signature to help him on his way to world domination http://ZeldereX.com/?topic=7599
Kozak	Posted - 2005.09.11 14:54:00 - [3] Long Live The Empire!
SpearZ 1	Posted - 2005.09.11 14:58:00 - [4] Long Live Species , Long Live the Empire Yes thats right EMPIRE , not the ALLAINCE
Manux187	Posted - 2005.09.11 14:59:00 - [5] Why do you decide to publish your diary?
SpearZ 1	Posted - 2005.09.11 14:59:00 - [6] Long Live Species , Long Live the Empire Yes thats right EMPIRE , not the ALLAINCE
thebold	Posted - 2005.09.11 15:01:00 - [7] Edited by: thebold on 11/09/2005 15:01:55 Well Cujo you can't win and we will never be able to kill you. Because in eve it isnt possible to destroy a entity that doesnt want to die. Wish you best of luck with your gank units in Stain space hope you have some fun, and goodluck:) ============================================== We do the Blowing up thingy
Masta Killa	Posted - 2005.09.11 15:05:00 - [8] a) SE think too highly of themselves b) The war is almost won; all SE fled to empire last night except for Xenobytes but their route up the pipe was pretty blocked last night c) You crawled under Mama Fix's apron and are shouting threats from under there f) Having species come to stain is a welcome thing since we all know how bad you are at ganking. j) God I like tempests n) I may be imitating an old post of trig-nub's x) In 7 days we collapsed the unremarkable stain empire and for 7 days we shall mine veldspar to make mining barges for me and my alts. -------------------------------------- Hail Stian Allaince and the emperor who can't spell. ;]
Nache1	Posted - 2005.09.11 15:05:00 - [9] So by reading your "Official Announcement" and seeing that you "Now we have nothing to defend or lose" I take that to mean SA has won Stain space ( except the FAT area ), and that you will be attacking when and where you can all SA members. Ok thank you
P1rate Dave	Posted - 2005.09.11 15:07:00 - [10] Quote: The Five Alliance claim that they had no part in it. This is not true. By the 5 declaring support for SA it caused SE members to jump ship. With that statement alone caused more damage than any fleet battle. The 5 Alliance set us to a negative standing and started blockading the Catch corridor as well as sending pilots into Stain space should have picked your friends better, take note southern alliances good luck i think your going to need it --------------------------- "I`m not your mama. Why do you crying to me then ?" - Evil Thug
UnIQu3	Posted - 2005.09.11 15:09:00 - [11] Ok, let me get this straight? Ya give up ? fledge to empire? Then you plan to reqruop.. Then make gank squads into SA space? Can a SE please say they given up all the regions ?
UnIQu3	Posted - 2005.09.11 15:10:00 - [12] Edited by: UnIQu3 on 11/09/2005 15:11:08 Double post - DELETE!
Wraithstorm	Posted - 2005.09.11 15:11:00 - [13] On behalf of FIX, in regards to the borders drawn by SE. Consider this signed. FIX has no desire to step on peoples toes in regards to the Travel routes used. The borderlines drawn make it very very clear. There is no need to enter these systems. Entities who do not have travel rights through FIX space "proper" and are seen in this area of space will be treated as if they were in Querious. That ofc is KOS. We are allowing SE the Courtesy of travel rights through FIX space as they voluntarily clear out of the CATCH region. Should SA wish to address this same issue, and leave CATCH to FIX without fight, FIX will be more then happy to offer the same courtesy. As was clearly shown yesterday FAT and all of CATCH is a non aggression zone. If SA are granted temporary travel rights to clear out of FAT neither SE or SA are to engage eachother. Failure to adhere to This would result in an immediate action by FIX forces. As it stands right now SA are not authorized entrance into FIX space. SA forces seen in CATCH and/or Querious at this moment in time will be seen as hostile. FIX Command asks that if you feel you need to travel through CATCH for any reason you contact a FIX Official. FIX would make an official statement but we feel all of the facts have been brought up in others. You can contact us ingame with any questions. Again, our respect to SA/SE forces yesterday. Great display of honor from both sides.
Antoinette Civari	Posted - 2005.09.11 15:13:00 - [14] Originally by: Cujo By the 5 declaring support for SA it caused SE members to jump ship. With that statement alone caused more damage than any fleet battle. The 5 Alliance set us to a negative standing and started blockading the Catch corridor as well as sending pilots into Stain space. This negative standing came with the post with SA's intention. We have always had good relations with the 5 until then. The faster the civil war is over the faster we have political stability in the south again, as it stands the south is a political mess. So we picked the stronger side and helped a bit to push the outcome in the right direction.
Kozak	Posted - 2005.09.11 15:13:00 - [15] Originally by: Masta Killa a) SE think too highly of themselves b) The war is almost won; all SE fled to empire last night except for Xenobytes but their route up the pipe was pretty blocked last night c) You crawled under Mama Fix's apron and are shouting threats from under there f) Having species come to stain is a welcome thing since we all know how bad you are at ganking. j) God I like tempests n) I may be imitating an old post of trig-nub's x) In 7 days we collapsed the unremarkable stain empire and for 7 days we shall mine veldspar to make mining barges for me and my alts. You have not won. You lost a major part of your realestate. All you have doen is destabalize the reagion. That's not what you guys wanted. You wanted a stronger Stain, you will never have it. Just because we don't base out of FAT anymore means nothing, it means we are just going to be that much harder to engage in fleets. Anyway, all those mining corps that joined SA for some peace, start mining, we'll see you shortly.
SeverusSnape	Posted - 2005.09.11 15:14:00 - [16] Originally by: Wraithstorm Again, our respect to SA/SE forces yesterday. Great display of honor from both sides. You mean how the server crashed and the fix blobb got inside fat unharmed
thebold	Posted - 2005.09.11 15:18:00 - [17] Yea that spoiled allot of fun @:/ I need to put a tank on my ships for fleet fights i might die less :D ============================================== We do the Blowing up thingy
Cujo	Posted - 2005.09.11 15:21:00 - [18] Edited by: Cujo on 11/09/2005 15:23:21 No, the war is not over. For the ones who cant understand we still have claim to Stain space. What we did is set it up to where we are on the offense and not sitting in a defensive posture. We all know you can not defend Stain space. ------------------------------
Kantar	Posted - 2005.09.11 15:23:00 - [19] This is my personal opinion......... So basically you and FOFF took all the assets and minerals out of Stain yours and SEL ( that btw dont belong to you) give FAT to FIX and now threating us with your gank squad ( finally), quile the rest of the corp in SE get slaughter in sounth you didnt move a finger to help them? Well Cujo we all saw what kind of leader you are your intrest first. I only got respect for the corp that fight agaist us feel sorry for them to have belived you. Many saw thru what you was really up to but few didnt and left out in dry. My 2 cent.
Keorm	Posted - 2005.09.11 15:25:00 - [20] We're sorry something happened to our planck bubble stabilizer!
Cujo	Posted - 2005.09.11 15:29:00 - [21] Edited by: Cujo on 11/09/2005 15:33:23 Originally by: Kantar This is my personal opinion......... So basically you and FOFF took all the assets and minerals out of Stain yours and SEL ( that btw dont belong to you) give FAT to FIX and now threating us with your gank squad ( finally), quile the rest of the corp in SE get slaughter in sounth you didnt move a finger to help them? Well Cujo we all saw what kind of leader you are your intrest first. I only got respect for the corp that fight agaist us feel sorry for them to have belived you. Many saw thru what you was really up to but few didnt and left out in dry. My 2 cent. Kantar, its really not that hard to understand. Try reading thoroughly before posting. Nothing has been moved from Stain. We moved out of Catch because it is now FIX property. Assets will always be safe in NPC stations. ------------------------------
Max Thunder	Posted - 2005.09.11 15:35:00 - [22] Originally by: Cujo Edited by: Cujo on 11/09/2005 15:23:21 No, the war is not over. For the ones who cant understand we still have claim to Stain space. What we did is set it up to where we are on the offense and not sitting in a defensive posture. We all know you can not defend Stain space. I guess you mean you couldn't defend Stain Space... And you certainly will be in a defensive position when other "Gank Squads " attack your stragglers and miners in Fat area. I bet you regret making SGE and RI KOS ..oh yeh..Have a nice day
Kozak	Posted - 2005.09.11 15:36:00 - [23] We still have assets in Stain and Paragon Soul. The war will be officially over when the tags of either alliance stop flying through Stain Region. The war goes on. You still don't get Omyst back. You don't have Catch. You can say with certainty that SA has won? I don't see it. Last night Species was flying patrol through the corridor, we saw a couple of SA member in shuttles and an intercepor go through within a couple of hours. Catch, Stain, Paragon Soul was comletely empty on the map. Sure looks like SA won to me (Extreme Sarcasm)
spyonyou	Posted - 2005.09.11 15:37:00 - [24] Edited by: spyonyou on 11/09/2005 15:38:25 So if SE have move back to Empire space is it still a civil war, if so why, and SE is going to start ganking that sounds like a pirate not a alliance.
Kipkruide	Posted - 2005.09.11 15:39:00 - [25] yeah kicking taur out off sel so you could raid it for your own pocket was kind of low, we never had much use for it anywayz, but the least you could do was devide the remining assets of sel among the remaining se corps.
Proconsul Para	Posted - 2005.09.11 15:41:00 - [26] You mean Catch is now FIXs, and I have to go like, ermm... "Hi FIX, can I travel thru to HED-GP ?" and stuff !? Shield Inversion works best at lighting cigarettes in windy weather.
Cujo	Posted - 2005.09.11 15:44:00 - [27] Edited by: Cujo on 11/09/2005 15:50:17 Again, please read thoroughly before posting. With threats of a 3 front war we could not win. Now that outside alliances claim they are not involved the situation is completely different. And no, we do not regret making SGE KOS and we never made RI KOS. Action taken against SGE was justified for threats made. Also, FIX does not claim the coridor. Plz read thoroughly before posting. The property lines was explained. ------------------------------
corporal hicks	Posted - 2005.09.11 15:45:00 - [28] Originally by: Proconsul Para You mean Catch is now FIXs, and I have to go like, ermm... "Hi FIX, can I travel thru to HED-GP ?" and stuff !? TBH cant see FIX caring about hed or that corridor to curse, am sure FIX are only interested in the lower catch region where the stations are. " Stay Frosty "
BOOFER	Posted - 2005.09.11 15:48:00 - [29] Edited by: BOOFER on 11/09/2005 15:50:36 EDIT: Duplicate _______________________________________________
BOOFER	Posted - 2005.09.11 15:48:00 - [30] Edited by: BOOFER on 11/09/2005 15:50:56 EDIT: duplicate _______________________________________________

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