| Pages: [1] :: one page |
|
|
| Author |
Thread Statistics | Show CCP posts - 0 post(s) |
Brother Welcome
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
0
   |
Posted - 2013.04.07 03:52:00 -
[1] - Quote
As a public service announcement I wanted to let people know that Sundering, who as of posting have a recruitment ad in the in-game Corporatiions/Recruitment, are running a recruitment scam. They interview you. Make positive noises. And give you a sponsor key to apply on http://www.goonfleet.net/. There you enter your api key and get back an application ID that looks straight up.
The site includes the information that 'Most applications will require some form of security deposit, as calculated by the risk of your account being a spy. This deposit (if any) will be refunded in 30 days of non-spy behavior, or if you choose to leave us earlier' I'd guess this stie is in some way a tolerated fake.
Sundering's recruiter then asks you for a hefty deposit (1 bil in my case) to be paid to the corporation. And starts discussing things like getting your stuff to 0.0... fishing for you to contract it all to them. Till here they seem straight up.
Upon your despositing they produce a problem or additional condition. In my case to kill someone in high sec. If you question this they'll likely quit out of the channel and not respond to a convo request. Or they'll lead on further as they'd obviously like you to contract them your stuff and send them more ISK.
I didn't expect a corp like Sundering could need ISK this badly. Live and learn. I hope others eager to get back into 0.0 will be more cautious than I was.
|
Derath Ellecon
Washburne Holdings
Situation: Normal
1271
|
Posted - 2013.04.07 03:58:00 -
[2] - Quote
Easy solution. There isn't a Corp in eve so elite I would pay to join. |
Brother Welcome
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
0
|
Posted - 2013.04.07 04:04:00 -
[3] - Quote
Some productive tips from my learning experience
1. Research corps you plan to join carefully. If I had I've have seen info about most Goons recruitment being scams (although I'm puzzled that it is tolerated in the in-game formal recruitment area: that really suckered me).
2. A corp that honestly wants you to join probably won't ask for a hefty deposit (they might ask for a small amount to prevent being spammed by join requests)
3. Don't pack up your expensive ships and gear for shipment right away (I didn't, thankfully). Take something cheap down and if all is going well bring more down later.
Hope that helps. |
Hammar Wolf
Money First
41
|
Posted - 2013.04.07 05:11:00 -
[4] - Quote
Brother Welcome wrote:As a public service announcement I wanted to let people know that Sundering, who as of posting have a recruitment ad in the in-game Corporatiions/Recruitment, are running a recruitment scam. They interview you. Make positive noises. And give you a sponsor key to apply on http://www.goonfleet.net/. There you enter your api key and get back an application ID that looks straight up. The site includes the information that ' Most applications will require some form of security deposit, as calculated by the risk of your account being a spy. This deposit (if any) will be refunded in 30 days of non-spy behavior, or if you choose to leave us earlier' I'd guess this site is in some way a tolerated fake. Sundering's recruiter then asks you for a hefty deposit (1 bil in my case) to be paid to the corporation. And starts discussing things like getting your stuff to 0.0... fishing for you to contract it all to them. Till here they seem straight up. Upon your despositing they produce a problem or additional condition. In my case to kill someone in high sec. If you question this they'll likely quit out of the channel and not respond to a convo request. Or they'll lead you on further as they'd obviously like you to contract them your stuff and send them more ISK. I didn't expect a corp like Sundering could need ISK this badly. Live and learn. I hope others eager to get back into 0.0 will be more cautious than I was.
I reflect on a year having passed. Google the words "Sundering" and "Scam" and read this post from a previous rocket scientist like yourself: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=82848
Or just notice that they are Goons.....
Smack talk to me gently, I'm new at this. |
No More Heroes
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
2293
|
Posted - 2013.04.07 06:24:00 -
[5] - Quote
Clearly this is all a big misunderstanding
. |
Psychotic Monk
The Skunkworks
Petition Blizzard
1017
|
Posted - 2013.04.07 06:33:00 -
[6] - Quote
Did they ask you if you wanted to be interacted with in this way first?
Psychotic Monk for CSM.
Belligerent Undesirables Blog. |
Kamden Line
Serenity Prime
Kraken.
150
|
Posted - 2013.04.07 07:46:00 -
[7] - Quote
I don't think you're allowed to put up a thread in the recruit forum if you're scamming? Not certain and too lazy to look.
But I know for certain that you're not allowed to recruitment scam in the recruitment channel, so somebody go slap them on the hand.
Anyhow, a corp in GSF recruitment scamming? Must be a day that ends with y. Anybody know which website Sundering is? |
Monnty
MIN0R THREAT
81
|
Posted - 2013.04.07 10:59:00 -
[8] - Quote
I love this game. |
Wescro2
New Order Logistics
CODE.
127
|
Posted - 2013.04.07 11:16:00 -
[9] - Quote
I agree with you OP, you shouldn't trust anything at face value in this game. Which means I don't entirely trust your side of the story either. We haven't heard the Sundering side of the story, maybe you are leaving out some crucial details. Now, it's a well known fact that goons have run recruitment scams, but in your case, perhaps you did exhibit "spy like behavior" and therefore forfeited the ISK under terms you agreed upon? I mean you did refuse to kill the person the recruiter ordered you to, that would be enough to mark you a spy in my corporation. Alternatively, you may be someone upset at goons (HBC alt?), sullying their good name.
Until we have more information, I don't think there is enough reason to write off the usefulness of security deposits in weeding out spies, or the good repute of Sundering and other GSF corporations. |
Alec Enderas
14th Legion
Eternal Evocations
64
|
Posted - 2013.04.07 11:37:00 -
[10] - Quote
I am missing some kind of proof here, as it stands right now it is your word against theirs. |
|
|
Hammar Wolf
Money First
42
|
Posted - 2013.04.07 15:02:00 -
[11] - Quote
Alec Enderas wrote:I am missing some kind of proof here, as it stands right now it is your word against theirs.
the proof is goons were on the other end of the transaction
Smack talk to me gently, I'm new at this. |
im mrmessy
SUNDERING
Goonswarm Federation
16
|
Posted - 2013.04.07 15:23:00 -
[12] - Quote
I am a director in sundering.
If you would let me know who allegedly scammed you (evemail is prefered) I will investigate your claims. Your application ID would also be useful in speeding up the process.
If you have indeed been scammed, I will personally kick the scammer out of the corporation. |
ErrorRon
Bad Security.
40
|
Posted - 2013.04.07 16:21:00 -
[13] - Quote
Goonfleet.net is a scam?? Whodathunkit  |
Ersahi Kir
Freelance Mining Company
77
|
Posted - 2013.04.07 17:35:00 -
[14] - Quote
I wouldn't even give anyone my API key at this point because it doesn't matter. There's nothing useful they can tell from an API key, it's not like someone is going to make a spy on the same account as their super duper secret goon character is on.
If you join a corp you're not thoroughly familiar with the largest risk you should ever take is your current clone and current ship. If they ask you to risk anything more than this just walk the hell away. |
flakeys
Arkham Innovations
Paper Tiger Coalition
941
|
Posted - 2013.04.07 18:56:00 -
[15] - Quote
Only players that are less then 6 months old should get any sympathy for this oldie scam .... if you're playing any longer and still don't know about goonrep you are really playing a single player game here .
And even then , paying 1B to get into a corp ? Really ? .......
We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.
|
Jonah Gravenstein
Khalkotauroi Defence Labs
7857
|
Posted - 2013.04.07 19:02:00 -
[16] - Quote
For a small fee I'd be willing to take up the OPs grievance with the GSF/Sundering Internal Affairs department. No guarantees but I believe I'd get some giggles out of it.
|
Jint Hikaru
OffWorld Exploration Inc
563
|
Posted - 2013.04.08 11:35:00 -
[17] - Quote
The site includes the information that 'Most applications will require some form of security deposit, as calculated by the risk of your account being a spy. This deposit (if any) will be refunded in 30 days of non-spy behavior, or if you choose to leave us earlier' I'd guess this site is in some way a tolerated fake.
Probably should change that to "will be refunded to 30 days of non-MORON behaviour"
You failed that when you handed over the 1Bil.....
As an experiment I just typed "joining goonswarm federation" into Google.
I then clicked on the first link.
Now, let me pause a second here, up to now this has taken me about 3 seconds..... yes I know it's tough and hard work, but stick with me.
Guess what popped up on my screen, in bright red text so even morons can't miss it.....
Joining GoonWaffe
If you gave isk to join GoonWaffe then you were scammed and you're **** out of luck.
OP is obviously role playing an idiot.
Jint Hikaru - Miner / Salvager / Explorer / SpaceBum
In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move. |
Buhhdust Princess
Mind Games.
Suddenly Spaceships.
2093
|
Posted - 2013.04.08 12:15:00 -
[18] - Quote
..Damn I got kicked from Sundering. |
Karadion
Vasilkovsky Interstellar
Goonswarm Federation
740
|
Posted - 2013.04.08 13:37:00 -
[19] - Quote
Total misunderstanding here. If you wish, I will help you out resolve this issue. Please contact me. |
Velicitia
Nex Exercitus
1345
|
Posted - 2013.04.08 14:13:00 -
[20] - Quote
it's hilarious in this day and age that people are *still* falling for the Goon recruitment scams.
and then posting a PSA about it (because guess what -- this has been done a lot in the past ... and obviously it hasn't helped you)
One of the bitter points of a good bittervet is the realisation that all those SP don't really do much, and that the newbie is having much more fun with what little he has. - Tippia
Malcanis for CSM8 |
|
|
Mostlyharmlesss
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
43
|
Posted - 2013.04.08 15:37:00 -
[21] - Quote
Hi Brother Welcome
I'm sorry to hear about your loss.
This is of course not how we usually treat out new potential recruits, so on behalf of the alliance, I'd like to apologize.
Now, down to business. I might have an idea of whom this recruiter is, as we have received a few complaints about him before.
Please send me a list of lost assets and the amount of ISK that you have lost (Please add screenshots as proof), and I will initiate an investigation.
Kind regards
MH |
im mrmessy
SUNDERING
Goonswarm Federation
17
|
Posted - 2013.04.09 08:01:00 -
[22] - Quote
Mostlyharmlesss wrote:Now, down to business...
Since I am a director of the corporation involved, it would make more sense if I were to do the investigation |
000-111-B
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
0
|
Posted - 2013.04.09 08:53:00 -
[23] - Quote
I joined Goonwaffe yesterday without handing any isk / api over or having any kind of background check done / being required to kill anything. The fact that I was kicked 10 hours later is irrelevant.
You're obviously lying and should be flagged as a scammer.
|
omegafire
Viziam
Amarr Empire
0
|
Posted - 2013.04.09 09:51:00 -
[24] - Quote
hehe its funny to see the goons arguing over who is going to get the rights to charge him for their 'investigation'
Im sure the cost of the investigation will be refunded once they have confirmed the facts. |
Kristopher Rocancourt
Quality Assurance
The Marmite Collective
104
|
Posted - 2013.04.09 13:48:00 -
[25] - Quote
000-111-B wrote:I joined Goonwaffe yesterday without handing any isk / api over or having any kind of background check done / being required to kill anything. The fact that I was kicked 10 hours later is irrelevant.
You're obviously lying and should be flagged as a scammer.
actually you are posting on a forum alt with zero credibility.
Proud member of MYM8 Jita Police.
|
000-111-B
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
0
|
Posted - 2013.04.09 15:15:00 -
[26] - Quote
Kristopher Rocancourt wrote:000-111-B wrote:I joined Goonwaffe yesterday without handing any isk / api over or having any kind of background check done / being required to kill anything. The fact that I was kicked 10 hours later is irrelevant.
You're obviously lying and should be flagged as a scammer.
actually you are posting on a forum alt with zero credibility.
Actually you're Marmite and therefore lulz at the irony. |
La Nariz
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
843
|
Posted - 2013.04.09 17:39:00 -
[27] - Quote
Kristopher Rocancourt wrote:000-111-B wrote:I joined Goonwaffe yesterday without handing any isk / api over or having any kind of background check done / being required to kill anything. The fact that I was kicked 10 hours later is irrelevant.
You're obviously lying and should be flagged as a scammer.
actually you are posting on a forum alt with zero credibility.
I'm affirming this, and you guys owe me a maelstrom  .
This post was loving crafted by a member of the Official GoonWaffe recruitment team. |
|
|
| |
|
| Pages: [1] :: one page |
| First page | Previous page | Next page | Last page |