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ShadowandLight
Gladiators of Rage R O G U E
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Posted - 2013.04.07 06:15:00 -
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wlm4XrR0VvU
Let me know what you think.
Ill make another video soon showing mining and how to effectively use multiple accounts. |

Domina Trix
McKNOBBLER DRINKING CLAN
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Posted - 2013.04.07 09:45:00 -
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considering the popularity of multi-boxing I can see this thread going downhill quickly 
Two of the defining characteristics of a carebear are wanting other players to play the way the carebear wants and whining on the forums for the game to change when they don't. Yet I see more threads on these forums from gankers than I do miners whining about wanting the game changed to suit them. |

Thelonious Blake
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Posted - 2013.04.07 10:06:00 -
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Doesn't having multiple accounts make the game to feel too much as a "job"?
Maybe it's just me, but I prefer playing with only one account at a time. I currently have only 1 account, and haven't had another one ever. I can "afford it" (via PLEXes) but I'm afraid it will suck out the fun of the game for me. |

Rebecha Pucontis
Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.04.07 10:19:00 -
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Nice video. But I don't think I would particularly enjoy running 16 accounts like that myself. |

Sentamon
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Posted - 2013.04.07 10:28:00 -
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Thelonious Blake wrote:Doesn't having multiple accounts make the game to feel too much as a "job"?
Maybe it's just me, but I prefer playing with only one account at a time. I currently have only 1 account, and haven't had another one ever. I can "afford it" (via PLEXes) but I'm afraid it will suck out the fun of the game for me.
No ~ Professional Forum Alt -á~ |

Thelonious Blake
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Posted - 2013.04.07 10:51:00 -
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OK. |

Sentamon
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Posted - 2013.04.07 11:03:00 -
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Good! ~ Professional Forum Alt -á~ |

Brooks Puuntai
Solar Nexus.
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Posted - 2013.04.07 11:27:00 -
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Thelonious Blake wrote:Doesn't having multiple accounts make the game to feel too much as a "job"?
Maybe it's just me, but I prefer playing with only one account at a time. I currently have only 1 account, and haven't had another one ever. I can "afford it" (via PLEXes) but I'm afraid it will suck out the fun of the game for me.
Depends. Having 2-3 isn't bad, more so then that yes.
Don't Vote for Malcanis
New Eden Training Simulation. -áIdea to improve NPE. |

Tauranon
Weeesearch
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Posted - 2013.04.07 11:35:00 -
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Thelonious Blake wrote:Doesn't having multiple accounts make the game to feel too much as a "job"?
Maybe it's just me, but I prefer playing with only one account at a time. I currently have only 1 account, and haven't had another one ever. I can "afford it" (via PLEXes) but I'm afraid it will suck out the fun of the game for me.
Having one account in an orca effectively caddying a set of spaceships around for me is fun, and other ways the 2 accounts work together. That and having a full trained indy acct, that isn't messed in with this characters combat training.
What I didn't find fun was plexing an account, so I wound up paying for both of mine, so that eve doesn't become like 9-5.
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Ace Uoweme
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.04.07 13:42:00 -
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Domina Trix wrote:considering the popularity of multi-boxing I can see this thread going downhill quickly 
It's not that multiboxing is evil (I multibox), it's when players don't use good judgment when using so many alts. If you were in a game and met a 40+ multiboxer, you'll learn quickly to dislike them being in group activities (no real way to counter them. Tactics like identifying and killing the main don't even work anymore). It makes a game not a "game" anymore.
In WoW it's gotten to be in PvP with such multiboxers it's which team with less bots and multiboxers wins. Lead a BG there when a 40 boxer showed up. Manage to make the dude wait almost 2hrs for his "guaranteed win", but the outcome was assured as there's no means in the instance to remedy the situation.
Solo activities no one cares. But in groups it becomes a bot vs bot fest. That isn't good. "In a world of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." ~George Orwell
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Jack Miton
Aperture Harmonics K162
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Posted - 2013.04.07 13:54:00 -
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I have no idea why CCP do not consider this an exploit but they really should. I run multiple accounts a LOT myself but don't use any lame ass software to bot it.
If I was to change one single thing about EVE EULA it's make this garbage a ban-able offense. |

ShadowandLight
Gladiators of Rage R O G U E
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Posted - 2013.04.07 15:23:00 -
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Thelonious Blake wrote:Doesn't having multiple accounts make the game to feel too much as a "job"?
Maybe it's just me, but I prefer playing with only one account at a time. I currently have only 1 account, and haven't had another one ever. I can "afford it" (via PLEXes) but I'm afraid it will suck out the fun of the game for me.
There is certainly a point of diminishing returns depending on what you want to do with your alts. Dual boxing PVP accounts is pretty doable but beyond that it becomes hard to keep track of the battlefield.
Thats why mining (for an example) is one area where you can maximize the effectiveness of your alts, although keeping up with the hauling can be tough :)
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Sentamon
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Posted - 2013.04.07 15:42:00 -
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Jack Miton wrote:I have no idea why CCP do not consider this an exploit but they really should. I run multiple accounts a LOT myself but don't use any lame ass software to bot it.
If I was to change one single thing about EVE EULA it's make this garbage a ban-able offense.
rage! 
I think you should use a separate computer for each of your accounts, and with specs that only CCP allows! So there mr smart guy! ~ Professional Forum Alt -á~ |

Sentamon
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Posted - 2013.04.07 15:45:00 -
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Ace Uoweme wrote: In WoW it's gotten to be in PvP with such multiboxers it's which team with less bots and multiboxers wins. Lead a BG there when a 40 boxer showed up. Manage to make the dude wait almost 2hrs for his "guaranteed win", but the outcome was assured as there's no means in the instance to remedy the situation.
Solo activities no one cares. But in groups it becomes a bot vs bot fest. That isn't good.
Mutiboxers can only beat terrible players in PvP, and I mean REALLY terrible players. ~ Professional Forum Alt -á~ |

Ace Uoweme
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.04.07 16:13:00 -
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Sentamon wrote:So how exactly does the OP hurt you in EVE.
Jump in with a small fleet and watch his computer melt.
Easy kills.
Have you met a multiboxer with such software? I show who I met...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=amDdn8Iiqc0
Managed to ride his tail for almost 2hrs (only option available, as 35 accounts shooting at you is instagib). We pulled back so he wouldn't get his IWINs, and did our best to waste his time. Until he had a friend on OUR side who did his best to give him 40+ deaths by running up to him to die.
That's how these dudes "win".
You face that, you will never think it's "easy" to kill them, nor that it should be in the game. "In a world of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." ~George Orwell
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Thelonious Blake
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Posted - 2013.04.07 18:28:00 -
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Ace Uoweme wrote:Sentamon wrote:So how exactly does the OP hurt you in EVE.
Jump in with a small fleet and watch his computer melt.
Easy kills. Have you met a multiboxer with such software? I show who I met... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=amDdn8Iiqc0Managed to ride his tail for almost 2hrs (only option available, as 35 accounts shooting at you is instagib). We pulled back so he wouldn't get his IWINs, and did our best to waste his time. Until he had a friend on OUR side who did his best to give him 40+ deaths by running up to him to die. That's how these dudes "win". You face that, you will never think it's "easy" to kill them, nor that it should be in the game.
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xarjin
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.04.07 18:54:00 -
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ShadowandLight wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wlm4XrR0VvU
Let me know what you think.
Ill make another video soon showing mining and how to effectively use multiple accounts.
Great video thanks.
more transparency and direction about multiboxing in eve is whats needed. this can only serve to further help dilute misunderstanding about multiboxing being botting.
As someone that knows dozens of people within the multiboxing community including the author of pwnboxer who liked your video aswell i might add i'll be sure to pass this video around to others to promote eve multiboxing :)
Another friend of mine multiboxes eve with 9 carcals and he'e been playing for around month and lives in nullsec.
Multiboxing 9 Carcals |

Deriah Book
Fox Clan The Brotherhood Alliance
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Posted - 2013.04.07 22:26:00 -
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Jack Miton wrote:I have no idea why CCP do not consider this an exploit but they really should. I run multiple accounts a LOT myself but don't use any lame ass software to bot it.
If I was to change one single thing about EVE EULA it's make this garbage a ban-able offense.
That being said, I have met players in Eve for whom this type of box control would be, not only not a benefit, but a hindrance to their effectiveness.
So the question is, does this type of functionality hurt Eve?
If that mini swarm in the video came upon you, would it enhance your game? Sure, there is a lot of DPS. But there is also a fundamental flaw in how the pilot approaches the engagement mentally. Strategically. |

I Love Boobies
All Hail Boobies
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Posted - 2013.04.07 23:20:00 -
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Be a man, try that without a cheat program.  *removed inappropriate signature* - CCP Eterne |

James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation RAZOR Alliance
4538
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Posted - 2013.04.08 00:42:00 -
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Jack Miton wrote:I have no idea why CCP do not consider this an exploit but they really should. I run multiple accounts a LOT myself but don't use any lame ass software to bot it.
If I was to change one single thing about EVE EULA it's make this garbage a ban-able offense. More quality posts from Jack Miton. Apparently multiboxing software is "botting". Malcanis for CSM 8 Module activation timers are buggy - CCP please fix |

James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation RAZOR Alliance
4538
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Posted - 2013.04.08 00:44:00 -
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Ace Uoweme wrote:Sentamon wrote:So how exactly does the OP hurt you in EVE.
Jump in with a small fleet and watch his computer melt.
Easy kills. Have you met a multiboxer with such software? I show who I met... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=amDdn8Iiqc0Managed to ride his tail for almost 2hrs (only option available, as 35 accounts shooting at you is instagib). We pulled back so he wouldn't get his IWINs, and did our best to waste his time. Until he had a friend on OUR side who did his best to give him 40+ deaths by running up to him to die. That's how these dudes "win". You face that, you will never think it's "easy" to kill them, nor that it should be in the game. LOL You used a WoW video to explain why multiboxing shouldn't be in EVE... Malcanis for CSM 8 Module activation timers are buggy - CCP please fix |

Roime
Shiva Furnace
2444
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Posted - 2013.04.08 05:37:00 -
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Ban ISBoxer
-á- All I really wanted was to build a castle among the stars - |

Ace Uoweme
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
127
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Posted - 2013.04.08 07:32:00 -
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James Amril-Kesh wrote:You used a WoW video to explain why multiboxing shouldn't be in EVE...
Correct.
Because an EvE bot-a-thon would put everyone to sleep.
   "In a world of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." ~George Orwell
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Miilla
Hulkageddon Orphanage
445
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Posted - 2013.04.08 07:34:00 -
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Multiboxing automation should be banned as it gives an unfair advantage over normal players.
This iswhat is wrong with gaming today... lazy people who cheat. |

Jenn aSide
STK Scientific Initiative Mercenaries
1587
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Posted - 2013.04.08 12:29:00 -
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ShadowandLight wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wlm4XrR0VvU
Let me know what you think.
Ill make another video soon showing mining and how to effectively use multiple accounts.
Nice video, even if it is from a firefighter (cops rule, hose-draggers drool :) ) .
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Jenn aSide
STK Scientific Initiative Mercenaries
1587
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Posted - 2013.04.08 12:36:00 -
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Thelonious Blake wrote:Doesn't having multiple accounts make the game to feel too much as a "job"?
Maybe it's just me, but I prefer playing with only one account at a time. I currently have only 1 account, and haven't had another one ever. I can "afford it" (via PLEXes) but I'm afraid it will suck out the fun of the game for me.
Not if you do it right. I don't use ISBoxer, but I do use two ships to run missions and when it's fairly safe to do so, three ships to rat/do anoms in null sec. In high sec missions I do a Mach supported by a Fof missle Tengu. In Null Sec I use mach or (if thats to dangerous) a Maelstrom + two Dominixes (Dominii, whatever lol)
Among MMOs, EVE is just about uniquely set up to allow multiboxing unassisted by outside programs. Fleet Warping, FoF missles, The ability to assist drones and assign fighters etc etc. Because my crappy Commodore 64-like PC can't really handle more than 4-5 clients at a time, I don't have much incentive to use stuff like ISBoxer.
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Skeln Thargensen
Filthy Carebear Tax Avoidance Shell Corp
84
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Posted - 2013.04.08 13:17:00 -
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Miilla wrote:Multiboxing automation should be banned as it gives an unfair advantage over normal players.
This iswhat is wrong with gaming today... lazy people who cheat.
I put effort into having fun in a game, i actually play the game without any "attachments" to boost my "capabilities".
You must be really shat at gaming if you have to resort to "tools".
And what annoys me more is CCP's attitude to it, only because these people pay more in subscriptions. Well fine, but that means if they start leaving it hurts more, than a large volume of single account owners which can spread the loss of income wheras one player with 10 automated accounts is harder to absorb the loss with.
If CCP focused on making the game fun, and started to ban multiboxers, they should focus on having a large number of single account owners instead of depending on multi account owners which is a huge business risk as we saw during Incarna.
while i agree the game would be better without alts and multiboxing it's obvious from the marketing that not only is it legit but encouraged. It doesn't annoy me that people do this so much as CCP still pretends this is a single account game, though at least they changed the bounty system at last.
cool vid though, was wondering the logistics of that. freelance space bum |

Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
1696
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Posted - 2013.04.08 13:34:00 -
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What if CCP would just put this kind of functionality (but better) into the regular client ? :p http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/User:Akita_T
T2 BPO poll: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=114789
Buying this: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=147098 |

Miilla
Hulkageddon Orphanage
445
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Posted - 2013.04.08 13:37:00 -
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Akita T wrote:What if CCP would just put this kind of functionality (but better) into the regular client ? :p
They cannot put effort into a simple expansion theme / feature nevermind add something to automate something.
They did talk about having some automation that you could pay for, presumably with AUR :)
The game is dying enuf as it is, why add more death features. |

Skeln Thargensen
Filthy Carebear Tax Avoidance Shell Corp
84
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Posted - 2013.04.08 13:44:00 -
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well, given how simple it is to do this, I can't imagine the functionality could be that hard to implement.
And any rage from us poors would be silenced by simply unlocking our two other slots for training and simultaneous use in-game. PLEX or pay for more extra toons instead of accounts. freelance space bum |
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