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Xython
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Posted - 2011.10.17 04:55:00 -
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Darius III wrote: I concur with OP. What Mittani has done, as chairman no less, clearly shows he doesnt take his position seriously and should be voted out. +1
This is rich coming from someone who didn't respect his CSM position enough to honor the NDA he signed when taking up said position.
(For those not in the know, cute little cuddly wuddly Darius III here was caught leaking CSM information to his friend Riverini for River's Eve news tabloid, EN24. He's also in the midst of a losing war against Goonswarm, and thus has a confirmed and rather obvious bias.)
This thread, and all the others like it, show the disgusting disparity between the fat afk botting pubbies that make up the backbone of highsec and the people in nullsec who actually enjoy the game enough to pay attention to it.
They didn't have a problem with Mittani and Goons as long as we were the dirty hippies "over there". The second we came to highsec to remind them they're in a sandbox pvp game, welp, OFF WITH HIS HEAD.
Pathetic. |
Xython
Merch Industrial
Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.10.17 04:59:00 -
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non judgement wrote:Phew, While reading this thread, for a second there, I thought the CSM ran CCP and EVE. Like they were the ones in power.
They are only advisers.
CCP really is dumb enough to not be able to tell when one of their advisers has a vested interest in a part of their world?
So you're saying the ideal CSM ... wouldn't have any interest in the game?
I know, lets hire the Final Fantasy 14 GM team for our CSM staff next time! They'll definitely not have any "vested interest" in the game.
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Xython
Merch Industrial
Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.10.17 05:19:00 -
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I still don't quite understand how playing the game means he's abusing the trust he gets as a CSM?
For one, he wasn't even ganking those ships as "The Mittani", he had an alt doing it. So the name recognition isn't there. It's not like these random bots saw "Username: The Mittani" and went "User is SQL table "CSM_Delegates". Resuming ICE_Miner_Bot script."
Actually, let us go into that with a bit more detail.
People trust Mittani? If you asked the average ice miner out there who Mittani is, you know what they'd say?
Absolutely nothing, because they're botting and not actually at the keyboard.
Even if you found one of the 3 or 4 who actually aren't botting, they wouldn't have a clue who Mittani was. They know who Goonswarm is. Sorta. They know the cartoon caricature these pubbie crybabies are putting forth, anyway.
Apparently the AFK Botter faction will only be happy when the CSM is staffed by other people who don't like the game enough to actually play it, like them. |
Xython
Merch Industrial
Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.10.17 07:03:00 -
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The Apostle wrote:Trainwreck McGee wrote:I am killin an ice miner everytime someone QQ's about Goons
Seriously who ******* cares if Goons are killing ice bots and ice zombies? The ice zombies care. More to the point, why do YOU care if a player decides to be an ice zombie anyway? Wtf does that have to do with you? You payin' his subs or what?
No, but his flooding the market with "free" isk and oxytopes is ruining the goddamned game.
It screws up the economy, it screws up the player/ccp interaction (see also: l4 mission buff), it skews the game closer and closer towards a game that you play while AFK as opposed to an actual fun one.
Remember people, these botters do not actually like EVE. If they liked EVE, they'd play it. Instead, they found a way to "play" the game without actually having to play. They are the enemy and should be treated as such by all upstanding and honorable Capsuleers.
Think about this: If we Goons had been destroying those pathetic ice bots for the past 2 years, maybe, just maybe, CCP would have revamped mining so that it requires a little bit of interaction and made it more dynamic. And then maybe, juuuuuuuust maybe, people wouldn't be so soul crushingly bored when mining that they resort to botting it out instead.
I'm an old, OLD Asheron's Call vet. I've seen what accepted unattended macroing does to a game, and if you had any common sense, you would be out there podding ice bots too.
Do your part to save EVE: Kill a botter today! |
Xython
Merch Industrial
Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.10.17 07:06:00 -
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KrakizBad wrote:The classic "you wouldn't understand what I'm doing anyway" defense. Does it involve forum whining? Oh please?
I think the hilarious thing is the Apostle has like 430 likes and literally all he posts is "WAAAAAAAH MITTANI IS A BIG FAT STUPIDHEAD MEANIE!!!"
(Granted, he mixes it up a bit now and then. Sometimes he whines about Goons being mean in general.) |
Xython
Merch Industrial
Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.10.17 07:08:00 -
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Vaffel Junior wrote:Alpheias wrote:Vaffel Junior wrote:
Mittens.... you are NOT getting my vote
He is already in, numbnut. So... hes CSM for life ? 
He's *my* CSM for life. <3 <3 <3 |
Xython
Merch Industrial
Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.10.17 07:20:00 -
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Just Another Toon wrote:This is why you should be removed.. Your core fundamentals are wrong and you are not fit to serve any of the eve playerbase. Your represent everything that is bad about eve. Everything! You are in a position of TRUST!! You are not worthy or fit to hold that postition. You gain your position by manipulation. This is corruption to the core.
So no one from nullsec should be on the CSM?
In other words, you're a pubbie with no clue about, oh, 60% of the game's mechanics? Good to know. |
Xython
Merch Industrial
Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.10.17 07:34:00 -
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non judgement wrote:Xython wrote:non judgement wrote:Phew, While reading this thread, for a second there, I thought the CSM ran CCP and EVE. Like they were the ones in power.
They are only advisers.
CCP really is dumb enough to not be able to tell when one of their advisers has a vested interest in a part of their world?
So you're saying the ideal CSM ... wouldn't have any interest in the game? I know, lets hire the Final Fantasy 14 GM team for our CSM staff next time! They'll definitely not have any "vested interest" in the game. I wrote a nice and long reply to this but then stopped and decided not to post it. Since you're obviously a troll. What I said is very straight forward and I didn't mean anything more.
Not a troll, a Goon. Merch Industrial; specifically, KiTA from the Penny-Arcade forums.
But what you said certainly did not come across as very straight forward. Yes, every CSM has vested interests in the game -- they're passionate about EVE. That's why they are going through the hassle of being on the CSM and doing stuff like flying to CCP's home offices to help clean up their mess when they drop the ball.
And yes, some of them are PVPers. Fancy that, since this is a PVP Sandbox game. And yes, that includes suicide PVPing highsec people with no frustration tolerance. It's fun.
Remember CCP's motto? Harden the **** up.
But by all means, please explain if I'm misunderstanding. You appear to be suggesting he's abusing his CSM authority in some way, shape, or form by participating in PVP. Care to clarify that? |
Xython
Merch Industrial
Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.10.17 07:38:00 -
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Renan Ruivo wrote:Stop talking to yourself thats silly!
This is a silly thread and we should all be ashamed to be posting in it.
At least it's not another Apostle dropping, though. |
Xython
Merch Industrial
Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.10.17 07:43:00 -
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Just Another Toon wrote:Vile rat wrote:Just Another Toon wrote:
Read the first post, might help a bit...
Your OP included no corruption nor abuse. You just whined that because he's an in game scammer you can't trust him and because you can't trust him you think he's a bad CSM. That's fine, you have your vote and all, but you haven't detailed any corruption nor abuse. So what else you got? Think you need to read again..everyone else seems to understand it..
I don't. Please explain. Use small words, I'm a Goon after all. |
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Xython
Merch Industrial
Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.10.17 07:45:00 -
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Just Another Toon wrote:So whats the point?
The point of the CSM? To represent the player base and bring things up in an orderly fashion.
(If I recall correctly, wasn't the CSM founded after some CCP Dev got caught leaking information to Band of Brothers, or somesuch nonsense? I'm not fully versed in my ancient New Eden history.)
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Xython
Merch Industrial
Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.10.17 07:46:00 -
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non judgement wrote:Xython wrote:non judgement wrote:Xython wrote:non judgement wrote:Phew, While reading this thread, for a second there, I thought the CSM ran CCP and EVE. Like they were the ones in power.
They are only advisers.
CCP really is dumb enough to not be able to tell when one of their advisers has a vested interest in a part of their world?
So you're saying the ideal CSM ... wouldn't have any interest in the game? I know, lets hire the Final Fantasy 14 GM team for our CSM staff next time! They'll definitely not have any "vested interest" in the game. I wrote a nice and long reply to this but then stopped and decided not to post it. Since you're obviously a troll. What I said is very straight forward and I didn't mean anything more. Not a troll, a Goon. Merch Industrial; specifically, KiTA from the Penny-Arcade forums. But what you said certainly did not come across as very straight forward. Yes, every CSM has vested interests in the game -- they're passionate about EVE. That's why they are going through the hassle of being on the CSM and doing stuff like flying to CCP's home offices to help clean up their mess when they drop the ball. And yes, some of them are PVPers. Fancy that, since this is a PVP Sandbox game. And yes, that includes suicide PVPing highsec people with no frustration tolerance. It's fun. Remember CCP's motto? Harden the **** up. But by all means, please explain if I'm misunderstanding. You appear to be suggesting he's abusing his CSM authority in some way, shape, or form by participating in PVP. Care to clarify that? Okay here is a version of my first reply, that I had sitting in notepad off to the side still: I don't think I'm saying that at all. What I was saying is this: CCP are in control of what happens, not the CSM. CSM are only advisers. CCP know what Mittens is good at and they know he has a lot of knowledge about nullsec. I think he's a good person to have on CSM because he has good understanding of nullsec and probably most other areas (except maybe wormhole space). They would also know that Mittens would be looking out for his own interests first. Having a vested interest in his part of nullsec is obvious. I did not mean that having a vested interest was a bad thing. It's almost impossible to find someone who doesn't have a vested interest. Of course the people on CSM have vested interests in their part of the game. I'm saying that CCP know all this and most likely take it into consideration when any of the CSM people talk to them. That is all that I'm saying, nothing more.
Well, now that I agree with. Can you try to explain that to the OP? He seems to be off his meds. ;) |
Xython
Merch Industrial
Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.10.17 07:52:00 -
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Just Another Toon wrote:Xython wrote:Just Another Toon wrote:So whats the point? The point of the CSM? To represent the player base and bring things up in an orderly fashion. (If I recall correctly, wasn't the CSM founded after some CCP Dev got caught leaking information to Band of Brothers, or somesuch nonsense? I'm not fully versed in my ancient New Eden history.) No your point... and yes to REPRESENT THE PLAYERBASE.... think about that for the moment. also 'for the greater good of the playerbase' are you saying the actions of the mittani, his scamming etc is 'for the greater good' ??? really?
Yes, absolutely. He's killing ice miner bots. That is by definition the best possible thing people can do if they love EVE and want to see it continue.
A close second is creating "user content" -- and by god, the Gallente Ice fields haven't been this exciting in 3+ years. He's getting people to talk. He's getting people to login. He's shaking up the markets. He's making the game interesting again.
So yes, Mittani's most recent actions have been very, VERY good for the game. |
Xython
Merch Industrial
Goonswarm Federation
143
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Posted - 2011.10.17 07:54:00 -
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Malcanis wrote:I'm not asking what he's said (mittens loves to troll), but what he's actually DONE in the CSM that you think is so bad?
None of them have an answer for you.
Hell, I'd bet dollars to doughnuts they don't even know one thing he's done good OR bad in the CSM.
They're just mad that Goons have switched to pirating ice miners, killed their ice miner bots, and The Mittani is the most easily talked about name involved. That's it. They have no complaints about his activities as CSM, they're just desperately trying to use it as a wedge to control and/or punish him. |
Xython
Merch Industrial
Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.10.17 13:46:00 -
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Just Another Toon wrote:Tippia wrote:Just Another Toon wrote:oh dear..You keep digging that grave... Well sure GÇö it needs to be quite deep to fit you inside, seeing as how you can't even answer these simple questions: How is the CSM corrupt? Where's the abuse? How is it connected to their GÇ£positions of trustGÇ¥? The questions have been answered, perhaps you find it difficult to read. over 400 personal likes and 50+topic likes, still says alot of people agree with me, Like it or not tippia.. Anyway i really cant answer any more your posts, i know you probably stamping your feet like a 2 year old, but its time you went back in your play pen
It hasn't been answered at all. Back before I went to bed, every time you asked you said either "lol look at the OP" or "lol, I don't have to explain, you're a goon." Now your trying to explain that you're just so popular on spacebook that you don't HAVE to explain.
No.
Explain where your accusations of corruption are coming from. Give some form of evidence. Harden the **** up. |
Xython
Merch Industrial
Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.10.17 13:55:00 -
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Mr LaForge wrote:Someone was a miner and got blown up....and started an epic troll whine thread. Good show sir. I like the tears.
On a related note, if Mitanni scams and burns. I don't care. I have fun watching it. Its a game. His CSM duties are unrelated the what he can or can not do ingame as long as he doesn't break NDA. So far CSM has done what they said they would and for that Good job.
The thing is, Mittani doesn't scam, outside of the standard nullsec diplomacy stuff. He doesn't have to, he basically has the entire Goonswarm wallet at his disposal, to say nothing about all the other ways he's made himself spacerich over the years. Hell, a major reason this whole thing with killing ice bots was so important was that it was fun an interesting enough to get Mittani to actually play EVE.
This is all stemming from some younger Goon selling some particularly clueless European(?) Alliance a supercap that didn't actually exist. When they became flighty, that goon brought in Mittani as a "neutral third party" and the twits handed over 11.5B isk without ever seeing the ship. This is generally considered a Faux Pas for this very reason -- he should have brought in a "Supercap director" or something similar instead of Mittani, but that's a discussion for another day.
Actually, given the similarities in writing style and avatar, I'd wager Just Another Toon is either Adum (the guy who was scammed out of 11.5B) or in the same alliance. That would explain a lot. If I was stupid enough to get scammed out of 11.5 billion isk I'd be posting some delicious forum tears, too. |
Xython
Merch Industrial
Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.10.17 14:04:00 -
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Just Another Toon wrote:
He was part of the scam, simple. Not getting out of it.
over 400 likes and over 50 actual topic likes, seems alot of people agree with me...sorry...
Quit waving your (nonexistant) epeen around, you pathetic little child. No one gives two squirts of **** about how many likes you have on spacebook. Especially when you can't provide any evidence for your claims other than "Look, MAH EPEEN IS BIG."
And no, he wasn't part of the scam. He just stood there and watched while someone particularly stupid fell for one. |
Xython
Merch Industrial
Goonswarm Federation
149
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Posted - 2011.10.17 14:09:00 -
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Page 29. New topic, then. With Goons destroying the Ice mining efforts in Gallente space, has anyone moved on to something else? Caldari mining, perhaps? |
Xython
Merch Industrial
Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.10.17 14:17:00 -
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Bloodpetal wrote:Xython wrote:Page 29. New topic, then. With Goons destroying the Ice mining efforts in Gallente space, has anyone moved on to something else? Caldari mining, perhaps? I'm mining lots of Caldari Ice and using it to buy Gallente ice in bulk and dumping it in Jita to help lower the prices on the markets. Everyone should do this. Next... 
Yes, everyone should definitely do this. The faster we burn through the Gallente Ice remaining on the market, the faster we'll hit the market crash point. Sometime soon people are going to go to refill their POSes and there won't be enough cheap stuff, so they'll stockpile, so there won't be even enough expensive stuff, and... Whee~! |
Xython
Merch Industrial
Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.10.17 14:23:00 -
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Just Another Toon wrote:FYI - Official petition has now been sent to CCP
Pubbies are so cute when they're clueless. |
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Xython
Merch Industrial
Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.10.17 14:27:00 -
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Just Another Toon wrote:Xython wrote:Just Another Toon wrote:FYI - Official petition has now been sent to CCP Pubbies are so cute when they're clueless. You are sending me to sleep now...
Goodnight, sweet moron, and may flights of goonies sing thee to thy rest.
With Caldari Navy Antimatter charges. |
Xython
Merch Industrial
Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.10.17 16:12:00 -
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Generals4 wrote:While i have nothing against the GOONS nor mittani i do find the whole concept of having someone who's sole purpose is to ruin this game to represent the players to be quite disturbing. I guess the better solution would be to ensure that everyone actually goes to the voting booth. I doubt someone like mittani would be elected for such a job ever again.
In what way is Mittani's sole purpose to ruin the game? That's the most foolhardy, strawman-filled nonsense I've read today, which is impressive cause I did in fact load EN24.
Sorry to say this, but The Mittani and the cartoon caricature of The Mittani you little pubbies have in your imaginations are not one and the same. He loves this game enough that he was willing to put his entire life on hold just to go to CCP's HQ and try to stop the Jita riots. If he didn't like the game, he would have been out in force in the gaming media throwing gas on the fire.
Listen, just because the big bad goonies destroyed your ice miner bot, it doesn't mean they want to destroy the game. In fact, as I'm pointed out several times in this thread, if you love this game, you'd be out destroying and reporting ice miner bots too. They are the cancer that is killing EVE, just like they were the cancer that all but killed Asheron's Call. |
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