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Kirjava
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.04.08 12:34:00 -
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Telegraph Guardian
Died of a stroke aged 87 this morning.
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Nadia Fey
Perkone Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.04.08 12:48:00 -
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The most British women in the world died . Whose every word morphs into a chip butty as is passes through the air.  Who do we look to next? FREEDOM!!!! |

GallowsCalibrator
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
247
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Posted - 2013.04.08 12:48:00 -
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Predicting this thread will be a shitstorm in 3... 2... 1...
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Kirjava
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
1870
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Posted - 2013.04.08 12:54:00 -
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GallowsCalibrator wrote:Predicting this thread will be a shitstorm in 3... 2... 1...
Keep it civil in here please, regardless of personal opinions a woman is dead.
That said, she will not be receiving a state funeral it seems.
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Rain6637
Team Evil
859
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Posted - 2013.04.08 12:58:00 -
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oh wow.
why no state funeral? by choice? http://themittani.com/ | http://evenews24.com/ || Vincent Athena-á||-áflycatcher waaaaat |

GallowsCalibrator
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
248
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Posted - 2013.04.08 13:03:00 -
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I'd imagine if they provided a state funeral for her half of the UK would erupt in riots.
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Rain6637
Team Evil
859
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Posted - 2013.04.08 13:05:00 -
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I apologize. it seems I am not well informed. With respect to the deceased, I have only positive mental connotations associated with that name. http://themittani.com/ | http://evenews24.com/ || Vincent Athena-á||-áflycatcher waaaaat |

Kirjava
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
1872
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Posted - 2013.04.08 13:08:00 -
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Rain6637 wrote:I apologize. it seems I am not well informed. With respect to the deceased, I have only positive mental connotations associated with that name. Liverpool was second city of Britain. Thatcher came. Liverpool wishes it could be Detroit.
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Rain6637
Team Evil
859
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Posted - 2013.04.08 13:12:00 -
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Ah, I have heard of Liverpool. something about a housing crash, or a credit meltdown http://themittani.com/ | http://evenews24.com/ || Vincent Athena-á||-áflycatcher waaaaat |

Indahmawar Fazmarai
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Posted - 2013.04.08 13:27:00 -
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Rain6637 wrote:I apologize. it seems I am not well informed. With respect to the deceased, I personally have only positive connotations associated with that name.
She was president Reagan's best friend, and to a good chunk of the planet, they're just a couple steps above of Adolf the meme-maker in terms of despicability.  The Greater Fool Bar-áis now open for business, 24/7. Come and have drinks and fun somewhere between RL and New Eden!-áIngame chat channel: The Greater Fool Bar |

Nadia Fey
Perkone Caldari State
46
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Posted - 2013.04.08 13:45:00 -
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Well to be honest... the Poll tax thing was pretty unfair but she has shown to be a great leader in times of crisis . No matter the Falkan wars or the colonial handovers or even the economic revival of the entire country .
Credits where its due , she served her country well.  FREEDOM!!!! |

Drone Rogue
Aliastra Gallente Federation
4
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Posted - 2013.04.08 13:51:00 -
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Indahmawar Fazmarai wrote:Rain6637 wrote:I apologize. it seems I am not well informed. With respect to the deceased, I personally have only positive connotations associated with that name. She was president Reagan's best friend, and to a good chunk of the planet, they're just a couple steps above of Adolf the meme-maker in terms of despicability. 
That seems ridiculous. Comparing a woman who's economic policies differ from yours to an extreme social darwinist is absolute bullshit.
In any case, she died peacefully and lived a long successful life. Not tragedy in my opinion, but still, she was a great woman. |

baltec1
Bat Country
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Posted - 2013.04.08 13:51:00 -
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I give it less than two days before a union boss end up in the papers for a "dancing on her grave" comment. |

Kirjava
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
1872
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Posted - 2013.04.08 14:31:00 -
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She is being cremated, probably to stop people disrespecting her grave.
She is adored in some circles, and despised in others. Deregulation has not improved the British economy, the recent collapse indicates that. Most of the increase in GDP went to the top bracket, the majority outside London has stagnated and in many cases reversed.
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Christopher AET
Segmentum Solar Nulli Legio
359
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Posted - 2013.04.08 14:32:00 -
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I would not be surprised to see one of the RNs new frigates called HMS Iron Lady I drain ducks of their moisture for sustenance. |

Skeln Thargensen
Filthy Carebear Tax Avoidance Shell Corp
84
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Posted - 2013.04.08 14:32:00 -
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GallowsCalibrator wrote:I'd imagine if they provided a state funeral for her half of the UK would erupt in riots.
yeah it's too controversial as she was a very divisive leader. freelance space bum |

Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
4054
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Posted - 2013.04.08 14:57:00 -
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Certainly a very controversial figure, but there is no doubt that the entire UK is a different place utterly than before her 'reign'.
And during the 80's the combined conservatism of her and Reagan at the same time seemed ominous to a lot of folks, understandably.
But, she was indeed a very powerful figure and image. There is much to be said in favour of modern journalism. By giving us the opinions of the uneducated, it keeps us in touch with the ignorance of the community.-á-á-á-á - Oscar Wilde |

Angelique Duchemin
Serenity Prime Kraken.
403
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Posted - 2013.04.08 15:10:00 -
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The Iron lady who sent the Royal Navy on the Argentinians when they flexed their muscles. Not just to get them off the Falklands but to encircle the enemy and force a surrender.
She had fortitude. I liked her... Had no idea she was still alive to be honest.
The movie about her was good too. Meryl Streep as the lead.
We miss you Saede. |

Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
4055
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Posted - 2013.04.08 15:16:00 -
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Angelique Duchemin wrote:
The movie about her was good too. Meryl Streep as the lead.
A film that singularly brought up the dialogue about if we are handing out Oscars to the best actors, or the best imitators...... There is much to be said in favour of modern journalism. By giving us the opinions of the uneducated, it keeps us in touch with the ignorance of the community.-á-á-á-á - Oscar Wilde |

Angelique Duchemin
Serenity Prime Kraken.
404
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Posted - 2013.04.08 15:31:00 -
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Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:Angelique Duchemin wrote:
The movie about her was good too. Meryl Streep as the lead.
A film that singularly brought up the dialogue about if we are handing out Oscars to the best actors, or the best imitators......
Oscars have nothing to do with good movies, They are specific set of awards for a specific set of "Oscar bait" movies (see Kings Speech and so on)
We miss you Saede. |

Graygor
1kB Realty 1kB Galactic
19691
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Posted - 2013.04.08 15:36:00 -
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I for one will mourn her loss. While I dont agree with everything she did, she certainly left her mark.
And unlike the current crop of MPs, she truly had balls.
In a way I'm glad shes gone though, through her dementia she was a shell of her former self and it must have been a terrible thing for her family.
And baltec you're probably right. I wouldnt put it past them. "I think you should buy a new Mayan calendar. Mine has muscle cars on it." --áKenneth O'Hara
"Something I don't say very often: The welshman is right." - Marcus Gord |

Random McNally
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
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Posted - 2013.04.08 15:38:00 -
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Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:Certainly a very controversial figure, but there is no doubt that the entire UK is a different place utterly than before her 'reign'. And during the 80's the combined conservatism of her and Reagan at the same time seemed ominous to a lot of folks, understandably. But, she was indeed a very powerful figure and image. Edit: Anyone else remember the Genesis video with puppets ?
Oh yea. I loved that video. Red Fed Grunt.-á Co-Host of the High Drag Podcast. http://highdrag.wordpress.com/
Mangala Solaris for CSM8.-á Free Saede!! |

Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
4055
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Posted - 2013.04.08 15:41:00 -
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Angelique Duchemin wrote:Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:Angelique Duchemin wrote:
The movie about her was good too. Meryl Streep as the lead.
A film that singularly brought up the dialogue about if we are handing out Oscars to the best actors, or the best imitators...... Oscars have nothing to do with good movies, They are a specific set of awards for a specific set of "Oscar bait" movies (see Kings Speech and so on)
Agreed for the most part, and "The Iron Lady" was certainly one of those. But then they do right sometimes like "LOTR: Return of the King" and "Amadeus".
There is much to be said in favour of modern journalism. By giving us the opinions of the uneducated, it keeps us in touch with the ignorance of the community.-á-á-á-á - Oscar Wilde |

Graygor
1kB Realty 1kB Galactic
19691
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Posted - 2013.04.08 15:43:00 -
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I'm going to have a Spitting Image marathon tomorrow in her honour I think.
Used to love that show as a kid. "I think you should buy a new Mayan calendar. Mine has muscle cars on it." --áKenneth O'Hara
"Something I don't say very often: The welshman is right." - Marcus Gord |

Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
4055
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Posted - 2013.04.08 15:45:00 -
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Graygor wrote:I'm going to have a Spitting Image marathon tomorrow in her honour I think. Used to love that show as a kid.
Wow, I have not even seen that since at least 1987. There is much to be said in favour of modern journalism. By giving us the opinions of the uneducated, it keeps us in touch with the ignorance of the community.-á-á-á-á - Oscar Wilde |

silens vesica
Corsair Cartel
1257
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Posted - 2013.04.08 16:02:00 -
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Skeln Thargensen wrote:GallowsCalibrator wrote:I'd imagine if they provided a state funeral for her half of the UK would erupt in riots.
yeah it's too controversial as she was a very divisive leader. Truth.
Yet, she said what she believed, did what she promissed (if at all possible), and demonstrated leadership in a time that badly needed it. She had a personal level of intgerity that has been historically lacking in the 'head of government' ranks. To many people in eastern Europe, especially, she's a hero.
Leadership doesn't always mean that you have a vision that all people agree with, only that you're able to get them to where you intend to go - Whatever may be found in that place.
Love her or loathe her, she's a signpost in history - people will use her to mark time: 'Before' and 'After' Thatcher.
Tell someone you love them today, because life is short. But scream it at them in Esperanto, because life is also terrifying and confusing.
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Noriko Satomi
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
177
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Posted - 2013.04.08 16:33:00 -
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Krixtal Icefluxor wrote: And during the 80's the combined conservatism of her and Reagan at the same time seemed ominous to a lot of folks, understandably.
Yes, all the hand-wringing Neville-Chamberlain-wannabes found their leadership to be most ominous.
Alfred Lord Tennyson wrote:... We are not now that strength which in old days Moved earth and heaven; that which we are, we are; One equal temper of heroic hearts, Made weak by time and fate, but strong in will To strive, to seek, to find, and not to yield.
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Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
4062
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Posted - 2013.04.08 16:38:00 -
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Noriko Satomi wrote:Krixtal Icefluxor wrote: And during the 80's the combined conservatism of her and Reagan at the same time seemed ominous to a lot of folks, understandably.
Yes, all the hand-wringing Neville-Chamberlain-wannabes found their leadership to be most ominous. Alfred Lord Tennyson wrote:... We are not now that strength which in old days Moved earth and heaven; that which we are, we are; One equal temper of heroic hearts, Made weak by time and fate, but strong in will To strive, to seek, to find, and not to yield.
Your point would be clearer if you used a different example than someone who passed in 1940. Even I had to 'look him up'. There is much to be said in favour of modern journalism. By giving us the opinions of the uneducated, it keeps us in touch with the ignorance of the community.-á-á-á-á - Oscar Wilde |

Noriko Satomi
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
177
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Posted - 2013.04.08 17:06:00 -
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Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:Noriko Satomi wrote:Krixtal Icefluxor wrote: And during the 80's the combined conservatism of her and Reagan at the same time seemed ominous to a lot of folks, understandably.
Yes, all the hand-wringing Neville-Chamberlain-wannabes found their leadership to be most ominous. Alfred Lord Tennyson wrote:... We are not now that strength which in old days Moved earth and heaven; that which we are, we are; One equal temper of heroic hearts, Made weak by time and fate, but strong in will To strive, to seek, to find, and not to yield.
Your point would be clearer if you used a different example than someone who passed in 1940. Even I had to 'look him up'. History, despite what you may have been told, is good for you. It is not baggage, it is context. Neville is one of those guys current academia tends to be ashamed of. He so clearly held the same sentiments they now do, and he so clearly demonstrated why acting on those sentiments fails. But that is a different discussion.
Thatcher and Reagan were most hated by the press, and by leftist elites, because they stood up to a Communist bully when everyone else said "shhhh, you'll make him angry." It's the same ridiculous impulse that makes Dennis Rodman say Kim Jong Un is a great guy. It's the same impulse that makes Jimmy Carter pronounce Venezuela's election process to be the best in the world because they have touchscreen voting. It is absurd theater, and heaven forbid someone like Thatcher or Reagan come along to disturb it with visions of reality.
You may notice that I am frustrated, but it is not at you Krixtal. |

Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
4062
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Posted - 2013.04.08 17:09:00 -
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Noriko Satomi wrote:
Thatcher and Reagan were most hated by the press, and by leftist elites, because they stood up to a Communist bully when everyone else said "shhhh, you'll make him angry."
You may notice that I am frustrated, but it is not at you Krixtal.
Thanks.
But the use of 'leftist elites' generally anymore means 'intellectuals'. There is much to be said in favour of modern journalism. By giving us the opinions of the uneducated, it keeps us in touch with the ignorance of the community.-á-á-á-á - Oscar Wilde |
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