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Ioci
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Posted - 2013.05.17 08:27:00 -
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So much effort in eliminating flexibility in working fits.
Why not just modular fit all ships and be done with it?
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Posted - 2013.06.01 19:36:00 -
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The reason these changes seem to be creating more stink than the frigateand cruiser ones is, they added no role bonus.
As an example if the Geddon had a Neutralizer activation role bonus either to drain or activation cost, it would look like the cheaper and single nation roles version of the Bhaalgorn they seem to want it to be. Bhaalgorn would still be superior with webber and 100% damage bonus but fielding a neut boat Geddon would be more obvious in large scale engagements where a Bhaalgorn would be an obvious bulls eye.
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Posted - 2013.06.01 23:05:00 -
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J A Aloysiusz wrote:Ioci wrote:The reason these changes seem to be creating more stink than the frigateand cruiser ones is, they added no role bonus.
As an example if the Geddon had a Neutralizer activation role bonus either to drain or activation cost, it would look like the cheaper and single nation roles version of the Bhaalgorn they seem to want it to be. Bhaalgorn would still be superior with webber and 100% damage bonus but fielding a neut boat Geddon would be more obvious in large scale engagements where a Bhaalgorn would be an obvious bulls eye.
I think this is an interesting idea; I'll piggyback... What if the 'geddon was modified to occupy a niche like the scorpion? (the scorpion has 3 ship bonuses - 2 to ecm, 1 to ECM burst). It's always seemed awkward to me that the scorpion is the only ship in its "disruption" class. The addition of a +5% neut amount per level would help define the Armageddon's (currently ambiguous) role, as well as give the scorpion a peer.
And to expand the idea a bit further, put an ECM burst on the scorp in roles not tied to level and make it 125% Add drone ECM bonus too. An ECM burst roles bonus makes a Scorp harder to drone mob, that is very Caldari of it.
For Phoon, it could be a webber boat with web role bonus. Ideally to web range as the 10km makes it a frigate module for all practical purpose. Having a Webber phoon is pretty Minmatar. Keep you where I want you so I can shoot you or get the hell out when I need to. Target Painting Phoon wouldn't be as attractive but it would work too.
Neut for Geddon. The only high slot role based ship but neuting is also hand over fist the most cap taxing of the roles.
Sensor Damp for Domi. The virtue being obvious. You need to get a little closer and getting a little closer to a Gallente fleet is usually a very bad idea.
Bonus to both the module and the drone respective. I'm not going to pretend any of this will change the face of warfare in EVE but a diversified choice will open the door and it will put the horse before the cart for a change. Tools in, then see where you can change it to make EVE less about blobbing damage.
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Posted - 2013.06.10 03:40:00 -
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Unit757 wrote:Wait, people actually think they consider how well a ship can shoot red crosses when they balance these?
lol...
It's less about the PvE and more about solo, small gang or blob. Amarr work well in blobs but after a certain number all ships work well in blobs and the only thing that really defines you is who as the better scan res. Amarr actually have that war won against Gallente and Caldari but in the end it's Winmatar who carry the flag. Blobs of battleships haven't happened in years so it's really a non issue. They are only good at killing other battleships and if nobody brings any, they aren't missed.
From a useful point of view the Geddon is the new king of boats because I can vamp any hull with the power of a battleship. A dozen ships could cripple a Nyx.
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