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LuisWu
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Posted - 2013.04.09 14:52:00 -
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I was going to say I don-¦t like the new changes, but after read the gallente battleship omni-nerf I feel almost relief.
Just one question, -+are lasers going to be rebalanced? (reducing cap usage) |
LuisWu
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Posted - 2013.04.10 17:10:00 -
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So now the faction with the strongest (lore-wise) armor tank has lost the only 8 low bs in the game, I guess its because this thread doesn-¦t had enough ragequit, insults and all that stuff compared with gallente-¦s one.
It's that the way this it's gonna work from now? |
LuisWu
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Posted - 2013.04.10 17:46:00 -
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BTW 7cap/sec increase in the Apoc its lightyears far from solve anything. You are crippling a ship for months? years? (I never know with you guys) until the laser overhaul arrives. |
LuisWu
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Posted - 2013.04.24 11:56:00 -
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CCP Rise wrote:
We aren't gone. Fozzie and Ytterbium and I have been talking about the battleships almost every day still. After our last round of reviews we still feel that Amarr is likely in the best place it can be for Odyssey. We will keep watching closely as everything heads to sisi and if more adjustments are needed we will make them.
Yes, because cap problems and fitting problems are solved, the new armageddon has stolen the hearts of the community, and this thread is full of happiness and love.
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LuisWu
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Posted - 2013.04.25 11:03:00 -
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The more I read the new changes the less I understand them, I strongly recommend to rethink and actually read some of the post written in this thread, which is not the same than appear each 20-30 pages to say that everything its ok. |
LuisWu
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Posted - 2013.04.26 07:26:00 -
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Asmodai Xodai wrote:... I think that would be far more effective than trying to reason with these people...
Its imposible to reason with this people they live in a world where you can eliminate a 50% cap bonus and solve it with a 10% reduction in cap use, also a world where a cap warfare ship that can-¦t fit 7 x meta 4 large neut + 2 meta 4 large cap booster + some (again) meta 4 buffer tank without 2 fitting modules its "a fun one" ship to fly, but its ok , because: CCP Rise wrote:amarr ship are in the best place it can be for Odyssey. |
LuisWu
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Posted - 2013.04.26 08:30:00 -
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Veshta Yoshida wrote:LuisWu wrote:Asmodai Xodai wrote:... I think that would be far more effective than trying to reason with these people... Its imposible to reason with this people they live in a world where you can eliminate a 50% cap bonus and solve it with a 10% reduction in cap use, also a world where a cap warfare ship that can-¦t fit 7 x meta 4 large neut + 2 meta 4 large cap booster + some (again) meta 4 buffer tank without 2 fitting modules its "a fun one" ship to fly, but its ok , because: CCP Rise wrote:amarr ship are in the best place it can be for Odyssey. Does the Guardian fit a full rack large reps, plate, prop., etc without fitting mods? No ship except for the few remaining broken ones, are (or should be) able to max performance without sacrifice in the form of fitting mods. The whole idea, one that Amarr has in general lived with for years, is that to squeeze those last delicious drops out of the lemon one has to accept hand cramps .. the only problem in that respect is that there are some hulls (predominantly Minmatar) that require too little in the way of sacrifice to max performance, those are the ones you should be howling at.
I agree, few ships can use the dream-fit without going faction or meta4 (and its part of the game), but something its wrong when the actual Armageddon its a more effective neuting platform than the propossed one, right now you can fit a full rack of large neuts (8, one more than the new one) + 2 cap booters + microwarp + 142K hep with only 1 L ACC , of course you dont have the extra 13 km (wich is a good bonus, but 25,2 km its not bad) but you have a 15% more neut power and due the long cycle of large neuts you are more effective against enemy cap boosters, but hey i guess this ship its not a "fun one"
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LuisWu
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Posted - 2013.04.26 11:15:00 -
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fail, sorry |
LuisWu
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Posted - 2013.04.26 14:19:00 -
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He must be grateful because there isn't a dislike button.
On a more serius note if he doesn-¦t care about 98 pages of feedback why is he going to care about the "likes" |
LuisWu
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Posted - 2013.04.26 15:36:00 -
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Maybe I am wrong, but i think you will recieve the reimbursement of your skillpoints right after me being married with Scarlett Johansson , but before we reach the worldwide peace.
Until then we have around 2 months of skill points between guns and ship stuck in the amarr line. |
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LuisWu
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Posted - 2013.04.26 18:26:00 -
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The situation its even more infuriating because CCP Rise has been until almost yesterday a player, so he knows what feels a player when devs take decisions without consulting/attending players feedback that affect the ships you use everyday and you have trained for a long period.
And yet... |
LuisWu
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Posted - 2013.04.27 14:36:00 -
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Tonto Auri wrote:Ashlar Vellum wrote:CCP Rise tries to explain stuff there. click Did he said anything other than "new exciting roles fo each ship" bullshit? Anyone have transcript?
He more or less repeats the same of his first post. Best part is when he ask the people to talk with him about ships in the fanfest because he loves to talk about ships, as we have all seen in this post... |
LuisWu
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Posted - 2013.04.27 14:50:00 -
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Well, been nervous in that kind of situation its understable, I think. |
LuisWu
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Posted - 2013.04.28 07:18:00 -
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Nevyn Auscent wrote:Ruze wrote:
I actually like some variation. Want to use rockets/missiles? We've got a few boats that can do that, but can still use lasers. Want to use drones? We've got a few boats that can do that, too, but still use lasers.
That's why I like the old mindset of different manufacturers making their own custom touches. Khanid ships are missiles and more mid slots. That kind of thing.
The issue is that Lasers don't work on unbonused hulls due to their crippling PG & Cap costs compared to the other weapons. But this is an issue with Lasers. To be honest, I'm really looking forward to all three hulls in Odyssey. Most of the complaints in this thread actually are talking about the crippling issue of Lasers. Not the hulls themselves being poor. Is the Geddon a huge change, yes, but it also no longer feels overshadowed.
Now if they could just fix lasers..... as the laser thread has been clammering for and half the pages here, then I would be a very happy pilot.
I agree, main problem its lasers, and in my opinion also the new armagedon-¦s PW. If CCP solves that we would have three very interesting ships (IMO).
Also Tempest having more base armor than apoc its a bit strange but not gamebreaking at all. |
LuisWu
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Posted - 2013.04.29 22:19:00 -
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-+108 pages and not even a smiley like the last time? I-¦m surprised, I though CCP RIse loved to talk about ships...
BTW resistance nerf is been already announced for all ships:
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=224880&find=unread |
LuisWu
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Posted - 2013.04.29 22:22:00 -
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.Double post? |
LuisWu
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Posted - 2013.05.04 23:03:00 -
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Next time I read the "we care about the feedback" bulIsh*t I will laugh so loud that my neighbours are going to kick me out from the building.
Lots of good ideas in this thread, not a single elaborated dev response. |
LuisWu
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Posted - 2013.05.08 19:25:00 -
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Meghel wrote:Quote:Yes, you can't kill anything with neut range bonus. Oh true, you cant kill anything directly with a neut Range Bonus. Of course, if the other side has no cap, he is yours to destroy.
I agree .... except if the other ship it-¦s minmatar o caldari, or a gallente droneship, or the enemy pilot knows how to sincronize a cap booster, or have a smartbomb, etc, etc, etc. But otherwise sure, its yours to destroy if you manage to fit a full rack off large neuts, wich doesn-¦t fit.
I think new geddon its going to be a good ship to have in a small camping fleet in low sec, there are lots of t1 cruiser logis that are going to suffer against it, also kitting fleets and offgrid-boosted videomakers will hate the ship for sure, but besides that...
BTW its good to see devs are reading the thread. |
LuisWu
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Posted - 2013.05.08 21:59:00 -
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Well, I-¦ve been testing the geddon in Duality, if you want more than 120ehp (and you want it, disruption ship with 450 meters of sig rad needs all the tank it can get) and 7 neuts you need 2 ancillary or one ancillary and one Reactor Control Unit II, besides that with a cargo full of cap charges ship is going to work less than 4 minutes (assuming you have 2 large Cap Boosters), after 3 minutes and a half you are sitting there with your drones. Also dps, mobility and agility is terribad (no surprise).
So yes the new armageddon its in the best place it can be for Odyssey. |
LuisWu
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Posted - 2013.05.08 22:11:00 -
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Avald Midular wrote:LuisWu wrote:Well, I-¦ve been testing the geddon in Duality, if you want more than 120ehp (and you want it, disruption ship with 450 meters of sig rad needs all the tank it can get) and 7 neuts you need 2 ancillary or one ancillary and one Reactor Control Unit II, besides that with a cargo full of cap charges ship is going to work less than 4 minutes (assuming you have 2 large Cap Boosters), after 3 minutes and a half you are sitting there with your drones. Also dps, mobility and agility is terribad (no surprise).
So yes the new armageddon its in the best place it can be for Odyssey. Sorry my sarcasm from text o-meter is broken, are you being sarcastic? Having to fit 2 PG mods and only running for 4 minutes sounds like all around bad news for me.
Yes, it was sarcasm. I'm sorry English it's not my native language so maybe it wasn't very clear  |
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LuisWu
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Posted - 2013.05.08 23:21:00 -
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BTW I dont want to act like a troll but the Abbadon can fit 8 large neuts + 3 cap boosters + MWD + 247ehp without a single fitting module. |
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Posted - 2013.05.08 23:52:00 -
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Theia Matova wrote:I haven't fitted Geddon that intensively but maybe you are looking it from the wrong angle? I mean does it really need lasers and missiles to go with the neuts? Why I made it such fuzz about it is that Geddon really is a drone boat. Yet you can buff the damage output quite intensively if you do fit missiles. Not sure about lasers but since everyone complain about PWG I guess those won't fit.
I am on Sisi just trying to fit the new NBCs but I have to give geddon another look.
Maybe you are right, but torps have horrible damage application and laser without weapon bonus are really really bad. Maybe I should try with projectiles (but i dont have the skills yet), mm... will try torp later. But at the end you are filling high slots with unbonussed modules. |
LuisWu
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Posted - 2013.05.09 13:02:00 -
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I too think the Apoc its not worth the money, no damage bonus means you need 3 heat sinks in order to actually have some damage to apply (around 730 dps with IMF and megapulses, not very impressive). But that leaves you with less than 100k ehp a bit low for a BS imo, I think as an ABS I would prefer to fly the new Tempest, a bit more armor, damage selection, utility slots, a bit less sig radius and slighty more speed, no cap weakness... I-¦m not saying it-¦s OP , just slighty better than the apoc.
But I admit I don-¦t have experience in large fleet fights so maybe it-¦s usefull there. |
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