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wallenbergaren
Garoun Investment Bank
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Posted - 2013.04.09 09:56:00 -
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This thread has the most replies out of all the BS change threads for a reason.
The changes lack direction and they don't solve any problems.
Instead of embracing the Mega as a fleet BS (it was the closest thing Gallente had) you took away a lowslot making it completely unsuitable for a large armor tanking gang. Now it's just a brawler with with the same problem the Hyperion always had, ONE TOO FEW LOWs. What about the Hyperion? It's still a brawler but swapping a med for a low doesn't do it any good. It doesn't have a tracking bonus, it needs scram + web, but it also needs two injectors.
What are we left with? A Mega with bonuses that fit a fleet ship but with a gimped slot layout, and a Hyperion that's brawler with.. a bad slot layout.
Isn't this your opportunity to fix stuff, not just shuffle it around? The Gallente BS need a lot more love if anyone is going to come out of this feeling good about them. They sure as hell don't need awkward slot layouts and fitting issues like they've had since I dunno forever. Get rid of that crap.
Hyperion needs 7low / 5mid even if you drop a high (which you shouldn't, just give it 20 slots).
Mega needs 7 lows as well.
Or you could actually change stuff, like give the Hyperion an optimal + RoF bonus so it'd be a decent fleet ship. |
wallenbergaren
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.04.09 10:15:00 -
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Prometheus Exenthal wrote:I understand that MANY of you (if not the majority) use the Mega as a fully plated low-sec gatecamping machine, and you *could* still do that. But why would you? The Hyperion would now be the same price and does the job better (even in the Megas current state). Like the Tempest, the new Megathron is one step closer to becoming a roamers DREAM battleship.
So we're back to plating the ship with an active tank bonus?
I thought tiericide was about fixing stuff, not shuffling it around. Is it so god damned hard to give Gallente a decent gang BS? |
wallenbergaren
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.04.09 10:36:00 -
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Andski wrote:wallenbergaren wrote:So we're back to plating the ship with an active tank bonus? What, do you only plate ships with a resist bonus?
No, but it means the rep bonus is completely useless.
As the only Gal BS that can now fit a good passive tank its bonuses don't complement that at all. |
wallenbergaren
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.04.09 14:52:00 -
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Suicide Smith wrote:Bouh Revetoile wrote:Red Teufel wrote:hyp is so bad ccp. drop the active rep for a falloff bonus or something. Yeah, turn the Hyperion into a minmatar ship, cool idea... Well it's a blaster boat.. so give it optimal range.. Not as good as the Rokh, but every little bit helps with Blasters.
Blasters are falloff weapons just like ACs, that's why all all the ranged bonused hybrid ammo is so **** for blasters. Aside from Null none of them give a falloff bonus, only optimal. |
wallenbergaren
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.04.10 11:27:00 -
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Pattern Clarc wrote:The Megathron's never looked as distinctive as it does now. No longer competeting against the Talos or even Hyperion, it becomes the principle Gun Ship with the best slot layout for an armour sniper, with the agility and sensors to match.
Although plated armour and speed don't synergise well and I would have prefered the hyperion being the attack ship, this stops the megathron completely butting heads with BeamLand(tm).
Would never have expected the Art Dept to allow the hyperion lose turrets but I guess that's the best way to keep the most people happy.
Yeah they need to shuffle some things around. It makes more sense for the Hyperion to be fast and for the passive tanking ship (the mega) to have the larger buffer of the two. |
wallenbergaren
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.04.10 12:14:00 -
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Omnathious Deninard wrote:Askulf Joringer wrote:Omnathious Deninard wrote:Askulf Joringer wrote:Akirei Scytale wrote:I'm toying with the new Mega atm - the ship is still extremely CPU starved, but the new layout is incredible. If only it could take full advantage of all its slots. CPU rigs hurt to fit. Stop being bad and fit c-type adaptives Don't balance a ship around dead space, faction and officer mods. Yeah, lets not balance a ship around available content... With this argument, we may as well balance every with t1. If you balance the ship around dead space, faction and officer mods then the ship has to use them to be effective, and that sets an unacceptable barrier for vets vs. noobs.
Well then use a T2 ANP, christ |
wallenbergaren
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.04.10 19:40:00 -
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Julius Foederatus wrote:The drones make up the difference on the Hype, but neither has enough DPS at this point to make up for the deficiencies in the ships themselves.
Nah, the Hype has more than enough DPS for having that much utility, but the Mega could use a smidge more. |
wallenbergaren
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.04.11 07:41:00 -
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Asuka Solo wrote:Use the extra low slots and fit modules to boost your falloff.
If you want to shield tank a blaster boat with falloff bonuses, fly a Rokh.
You mean a Deimos, a blaster ship that actually has a falloff bonus?
Falloff bonuses are great for blaster boats and I agree that the Mega should have one instead of the tracking bonus. |
wallenbergaren
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.04.15 11:32:00 -
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The new Megathron does not stand out to me as being that much more turret focused than the Hyperion.
9.3333 effective turrets vs 9, 50mbit less drones. Shouldn't the Mega be gankier than the Hype? |
wallenbergaren
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.05.14 10:57:00 -
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Jeen Seeker wrote:Roime wrote:Why does the Mega have so little CPU?
It's really hard to fit.
That extra low fit a CPU on it -_- /end troll
Well there's some general truth to it.
That extra low is used up just to make up for the nerfs it got. Unless you put a magstab there it actually loses dmg. |
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