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Posted - 2013.05.13 01:01:00 -
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Pattern Clarc wrote:Zarnak Wulf wrote:I
The only Tempest Fit I found that I liked used a LAAR and a LAR2. It would rep 980 DPS and put out 900 DPS as well. It has a bit more projection and speed then the Hyperion. It definitely was a low sec toy though. With a dual rep tank I can fit very little in the 2 high slots, medium smart bombs or heavy missiles, even then I often run out of cpu. With 3 damage mods, you have 640 turret dps with barrage. That's not much at any range these days: With Hail it's almost 900 dps with 3+18km but compare that with the phoon - almost 790 dps with fury missiles, with 100km range. And that's with cruise missiles, and not including drones -  I'm kinda disposed to the idea of the tempest being a mini-nagflar with 5 turrets and a 7.5% damage bonus now - it'll have 2 spare highs and 6 mids and 6 lows. Give it +200 cpu and +3000 grid leaving us free to fit it however we like.
Been reading through this thread and the state of the Tempest does not seem to be in good shape at all like it is now, reading about the Cruise Missile changes makes me think that they might be too powerful.
I think the biggest problem the Tempest has is that in a shield role people want to make it perform similarly to a Hurricane, but to do that it starts to compete with the Tornado. (Personally I think Tier 3 BCs being able to fit close range weapons interfere too much with other ship classes, cruisers, hacks and even BS, testified by their proliferation, though I doubt people will accept them only being able to Long Range weapon turrets.)
To make it good it would need more speed and then either a falloff bonus or a hefty damage bonus (which would be difficult to balance) it would also start stepping into Machariel territory. (Which is due for a nerf probably.)
So to give it a role it needs something unique, but what that should be isn't exactly clear but I have some crazy ideas that perhaps could be brainstormed further...:
Make it possible to fit a capital turret on it: This could produce some hilarious results, double alpha of current Maelstrom but half ROF. Tracking is terrible anyways and it would cement it in the niche of "capital ganking" it already has, but its other applications might either be too underwhelming or too overpowered. (Low tracking high DPS (2000ish) at 40km in a cheap hull is not healthy to infrastructure...)
Give it a giant speed bonus when using ABs (1-1.2 k m/s)... not exactly sure of the application or consequences of this but I suspect it would be OP as hell.
Ridiculously short cool down for MJDs, and then give it a bomb launcher... this could become the source of some epic hilarity but could turn it into something truly terrifying and fun in the classic wheelchair uzi fashion.
Web Strength bonus? -80% speed instead of -60% with a small range bonus 2-3% per level, though this would make the ship way too dangerous to smaller ship classes, though thinking about this on a fleet level is intriguing...
Go in the direction of the classic SFI with active armor tanking, agility, tracking and signature as traits but that seems to niche and does not fit a BS hull well, though it would be interesting to see what a Tempest with good mobility and a large tracking bonus would be capable of if it wouldn't be doomed to become a roaming ship that would never be used in a fleet scenario. |