Hey guys

We're going to post a few tweaks tomorrow based on feedback from all the threads, minmatar included.

To answer a couple things though -

I think the comparison between the raven and the typhoon is kind of surprising. Both ships will now be able to field 6 missile launchers, so they have that in common, but thats really where it stops. The typhoon is the fastest of all the battleships by a substantial margin. It has the fastest align time and fastest mwd speed of anything available. This strikes me as very 'minmatar'. Along with that, while its losing some of the extreme versatility it had before, it still supplies quite a few options both offensively and defensively, while the Raven is quite clearly a dedicated shield ship.

As for the tempest, I think what we are now looking at is having the tempest be part of the 'attack' category as well as the typhoon. It already behaves more or less like an attack ship, and maybe adding hp and increasing sig wasn't adding much to the overall ship. So we will likely bring the sig back down to near where it was before, take some of the hp back, and increase its speed slightly.

Both ships will still offer flexibility in the way they are used that is fairly unique to minmatar.

Check back for tweaks in the next couple days and keep the feedback coming =)

Another option would always be to give tempest antoher 600 PG and give it a 7th turret slot. After all an ATTACK battleship with 2 of its bonuses focuse don damage.. deserves to be deadly :P I woudl not evne care if its badnwidth was reduced to 25 m to compensate.

But the previous post ide is not bad as well.

I've been toying with some Cruise Missile Typhoon fits and... Boy, it's a damn beast. For reference, the point of it all is a small (4-5 person), really cheap gang with large amounts of mobility.

I think in the Pest vs Gal boats comparison the problem lies in the overcorrection of gal boats on their first pass.

Hyperion has everything pest has to offer + more. There is an illusion that assumes AC's outrange Blasters. A Neutron blaster with Null ammo outdps's a pest with barrage up to 25k (30k if both ships have two te's). Tempest is 26m/s(1067vs 1041) faster while hype is more agile. Hyp has same amount of med slots and higher base shield. Hyp has more low slots and higher base armor AND rep bonus. Oh it also has a full drone bay.....with spares!!

Same mobility
Better DMG
Better DMG projection at intended ranges
Better Tank (Both shield and armor)
Better Drones

What does pest have? A second neut.....and capless guns.

That is a awkward comparison mainly because *grasp* isnt the tempest equal to the mega? so compare those two and see.