since we are having a moan about changes ive got a good one.

Once upon a time there was no such thing as tracking, any gun would hit anything perfectly well. and yes we are talking about BS guns slapping the crap out of frigs orbitting at 500m.

So i train for the tempest, im extremly excited i couldnt wait to start blapping stuff with my arties. The day i finished medium proj 4 ready to train large proj 1 it was patch day -> CCP were introducing tracking that very day.

My dream weapon system that took me a good while to train for (i had previously been using a raven) went from one of the best BS to gank with (along with the infamous gankgeddon) went from hero weapon to litterally the worst tracking weapon in game at the time (before capital XL guns etc).

I was not happy and pulled the dust cover off my raven which i had put on, only the day before, waah waah waah :"(

anywho, suck it up, balance is generally a good thing, your training plan be damned in the big picture.

Use a tempest or mael instead and like it. John Rourke did ok.

What player in their right mind, wants to fly a Phoon. It's a trash can and it belongs in one.

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Use a tempest or mael instead and like it. John Rourke did ok.

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What it is doing is dumbing down to the lowest common denominator.

Use a tempest or mael instead and like it. John Rourke did ok.

New player comes does some resurch and wants to go go typoon, pvp autocannon neut boat. nice ship worked out a nice fit and hes been training hard. he will finnally have the skills to fly it well 4 days after the nerf, Now he has to train missile skills for tourps. cut a long story short i recived a few contracts today with all his stuff hes gone.

Came in expecting latent WiS thread......left disappointed because it was true and that horse has been dead a long long time now.

I have played eve on many a toon for many years right from beta, But now i come to the point will i continue with playing eve.
Growing in eve is all about the fresh meat in the game seasoned players get lost in their neich and lost in there bubbles.
i have a new player friendly corp of which lately there has been a few more recuits thanx to the better interface with recuitment. But i have noticed that the players are not sticking to the game, I spoke with many a newer player all under 6 months old and all of which have left the game, Why becuase of the changes to eve they feel that they are been ignored as some what important.

Ok Check this out:

New player comes does some resurch and wants to go go typoon, pvp autocannon neut boat. nice ship worked out a nice fit and hes been training hard. he will finnally have the skills to fly it well 4 days after the nerf, Now he has to train missile skills for tourps. cut a long story short i recived a few contracts today with all his stuff hes gone.

In fact this isnt the only case i been spoken to alot with these changes by the newer players and they are all going.

With the removal of drone poo in eve costs are going up missions pay the same, incursions cripple somepeoples missions because of lack of standings to run lvl 4 missions else where. newer players can not aford to get out the the low end ships.

All the recent changes have nerfed the hell out of solo pvp now its who has the most ships, not player skill and ability

I rember this game been Great i loved it, CCP you are killing this game slowly, if this carries on from first hand experiance of actually talking to players, and noobs, For the love of god stop these changes and fix whats actually broken, there is a list 3 miles long on the fourms, i have bug reports on toons that are 3-4 years old with the bugs still there. How about some new missions, complexs and how about clack holes that actually kill you. Space is hazardious anyway.

This suggestion is made by all the people we talk to on teamspeak:

STOP NERFING THE HELL OUT OF SHIPS, WORK ON THE STATIONS WE WANT TO WALK AROUND AND PUNCH DUST BUNNIES IN THE FACE FOR NOT DOING THERE JOB, OH YEAH WAIT GET DUST PROPERLY LINKED TO EVE SO WE CAN FUND AND CONTRACT OUT SOME WORK SO WE CAN HAVE REASONS TO HIT THEM IN THE FACE!