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Chessur
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Posted - 2013.04.28 02:35:00 -
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So Navy BC's
Harb Navy Issue: This ship is amazing and I love what CCP has done with it. Shield fit this ship is sporting close to 700 DPS with scorch, out to 35K with a medium neut and decent EHP. This thing is a sex machine and I can't wait to fly it.
Drake Navy Issue: Huge tank..... and that's about it. RLM fit it doesn't have the range to really be usable with its speed / agility. HML's have been unusable since the nerf, as the drake has anemic DPS and application while using them. So HAM's again damage application is a huge issue. But it can be worked around because the drake has a few spare mids to give up. So in my view, the drake is now relegated to a pure HAM brawler. It will do this job the way it always has and be decent.
Brutix: Again an armor brawler or shield gank. That is all it will ever be. Talos is much better at Blaster kiting thanks to projection, and even with the tracking bonus- brutix with rails is still complete ****. If med rails were made better, it could have some use. But for the time being is currently 100% outclassed by the harb. A one dimensional role, but it will do that role well.'
Fleet Cane: So the old cane is back. The new TE nerfs severly neutor it from doing any significant kiting. But dual med neuts really can't be ignored. I am glad to see the cane back. But with the lack of projection, the shield cane is going to have a tight window of opportunity. But Its possible. Armor cane is going to be secksy as always. |
Chessur
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Posted - 2013.05.07 15:51:00 -
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Airto TLA wrote:Jerick Ludhowe wrote:Gunther Nhilathok wrote:I have an idea. Scrap the new navy BCs and give us back our canes. OP ships are bad for overall game balance... Even morons are capable of understanding this  No they are not, if they were caple of understanding this point internet forums would be really boring. 
Canes were never OP in the first place. I wish forums would not be filled with idiots who simply spout of talking points, and repeat lines that are not based in fact |
Chessur
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Posted - 2013.05.08 02:50:00 -
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Airto TLA wrote:The cane was OP first of since it was a teir 2 battle cruiser they were all good, 2nd it had been desgned to be able to fit artillery which the game designers caused to cost to much fitting, so when cane pilots switched ot autocannons they had ton of fitting left, 3rd it had my 6 guns equal your 7 or eight and take no cap, so it had 2 aux slots with fitting and cap to uses them, 4th it Minnie so it was the quickest, 5th it had the most reliable useful wep system (capless, significant damage projection,even when not the best at a range, and damage selectable) , 6th it had a true flexibility to shield tank or armor tank.
All these added up to to make it the best of the best class in the game (at least until the potentially overpowered teir 3 BC).
The only question will the already nerfed to blanced ship be forced to a lower rung by the TE nerf ?
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Canes have no projection. Yes they were fast, but that was about it. Drakes smashed canes. The cane like all mini ships suffer from projection issues massively. Cane was never OP. |
Chessur
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Posted - 2013.05.08 02:52:00 -
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Barrogh Habalu wrote:Chessur wrote:Canes were never OP in the first place. I wish forums would not be filled with idiots who simply spout of talking points, and repeat lines that are not based in fact If we pretend that half of the former BCs never existed, then yes, cane was fine. Why do you need different ships when you can just fit a Cane in different ways and be capable of engaging pretty much anything any other CBC can engage, while being less predictable for your target still? You weren't wtfpwn'ing anything with a cane maybe, but it's not what defines being OP, it's just extreme case of OPness which cane (or pretty much any ship at the moment) wasn't.
Fit a ship different ways to accomplish different things?!?!!?? And your trying to tell me that the cane is the only ship that has this unique power? Wow your an idiot. You don't WTFBBQ stuff with all cane fits. As for predictability- its pretty easy to tell how a ship is fitted from looking at two things:
1. Guns
2. Speed
Then again in order to do those two things, you have to do more in pvp than click approach and F1. My guess is that is a bit too complex for you, so i suppose in that sense I can understand where you would mistakenly believe canes were too powerful. |
Chessur
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Posted - 2013.05.08 03:03:00 -
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Jerick Ludhowe wrote:Chessur wrote:
Canes were never OP in the first place. I wish forums would not be filled with idiots who simply spout of talking points, and repeat lines that are not based in fact
If you think that the original cane was not op, you're bad and you should feel bad. It had nothing to do with "talking points" it had everything to do with over the top slot numbers, mobility, and fitting potential.
Why was the cane OP? Explain this to me? It used AC's. Which have no projection... past 22K. The cane was pretty fast I give you that, but what is the point? Shield AC fit, it didn't have the DPS to fight an armor brawler, and didn't have the projection to really kite effectively. Armor fit the cane was not fast enough to catch shield BC's that kited the **** out of it. It had weaknesses no matter what- like most ships. You just have to know how to fight / fly against it.
In fact I have a youtube video of myself (in a Caracal navy issue), an armor cane, zealot and drake taking on and killing 5 canes and a drake. the only thing we lost was our armor cane. So I don't understand your point? Other than you most likely have no PvP experience and are talking out of your butt like 99% of the eve online forum goers. The sad thing is, CCP actually listens to the masses. Even if the masses are filled with pvp morons.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IYElqXIuI28
Im not kidding. |
Chessur
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Posted - 2013.05.08 11:12:00 -
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Perihelion Olenard wrote:Chessur wrote:
Wow your an idiot.
If you're going to call someone else an idiot, the least you could do is use the proper version of "you're". Otherwise it makes you look like an idiot, too.
You know when you are winning an argument when the opposing party begins to attack your grammar.
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Chessur
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Posted - 2013.05.08 11:18:00 -
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Colt Blackhawk wrote:Quote:Canes have no projection. Yes they were fast, but that was about it. Drakes smashed canes. The cane like all mini ships suffer from projection issues massively. Cane was never OP. ROFL. HAHAHAHAHAHAHA. That was a good one. Had to laugh. Really. Rofl. Seldom saw so much irony and sarcasm in 4 sentences. Rofl.
I am glad you find this so funny.
How ever I find it more amusing that you say all of these things with out offering a shred of evidence to the contrary. As I have said before eve online forum goes are 99% pvp morons, and 1% competent pilots. You seem to fall into the latter category.
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