It looks like something out of 2005. I can't help but think that an Archon would do the job better. That said, this should be using meta-4 energy neutralizers, not storyline. But people already told you that here.

As a general rule in Eve, trying a fit a ship to do everything will make it do everything poorly so I wouldn't recommend it. Out of the list of things you want to do it, only the first and the last are a remotely good use for it.
A carrier makes a terrible mining fleet guard and there are much better options for site running.

As for your last question, a carrier by itself can't refit without an SMA, however two carriers can use eachothers fitting services.

if im not mistaken c4 will allow capital escalation .

and the defence and pos reps are a given ..
abouy mining guard if u have it and ur not fighting off invation or repping a pos and there is no sites to escalate why not hover in it close to the miners :)

shure a hauler or another hulk would make the mining much more effective.




thanks about the answer to my question :)

You are mistaken. Capital escalations only happen in c5/c6.

As for the mining guard idea, if I found a lone carrier in a mining site, I'd call in the rest of the corp and kill your carrier as well as your mining fleet. It might scare off a lone stealth bomber, but I'm not even sure of that.

[quote=Aamrr]It looks like something out of 2005. I can't help but think that an Archon would do the job better. That said, this should be using meta-4 energy neutralizers, not storyline. But people already told you that.


just notised . updating acordingly

edit why would an arcon be better ?

edit why would an arcon be better ?

Capital escalation is caused when you warp certain types of capital ships into a site. Capital escalation appears to be tied to two, and only two, classes of capitals (it should be obvious which two), with each having their own escalation chain. For each class, the first capital will spawn 6 Sleepless Guardians, the 2nd capital will spawn 8 Sleepless Guardians, additional capitals will not trigger any further escalation. This form of escalation was put in place to provide an additional challenge when bringing capital ships into a site. Capital escalation only happens on combat sites (i.e. Anomalies, Magnetometric, Radar) and does not occur at gas or asteroid belts (i.e. Ladar and Gravimetric).


from http://eve-survival.org/wikka.php?wakka=WormholeSpace


so c4 will spawn a capital escalations acording to this.

I actually use a Thanatos in a C4, so i can give some real-life (eve-life) advice, not just forums quotes.

My thanatos:

High: 2 Cap armor transfer, 1 cap energy transfer, 1 adv drone link (extra fighter) and 2 faction smartbombs
Medium: sensor booster with scan res script, rest are cap rechargers
Low: 2 faction/deadspace EANM, 1 centum a-type Exp energized, 2 Cap armor reps, 1 damage control T2
Rigs: 2 Cap control circuit T2, 1 CCC T1

This ship can easily tank anything a C4 can throw at it. I have done solo ops with it, but i normally wont since the fighters are costly to lose.

C4 sites DO NOT ESCALATE, believe me, i've done tons of them, and i would have noticed.

With the 2 cap rr's, none of my fleet mates need active reps, they just rely on the RR and fit extra DMG. Watch your overwatch and you shouldn't have issues.

I've never even come close to bein nueted out by the sleepers.

The smartbombs sync up with my systems bonus (magnetar), and with it my fleet never has to target frigates. Smartbombs take them out in 2 cycles. Without the system bonus it'd be much less effective (not just DMG but range). I would reccommend swapping for more drones, or for whatever floats your boat (i know alot who use heavy faction nuets "just in case".

That's not what it says at all. That quote you picked out mentions literally NOTHING about which classes of wormholes spawn capital escalations.

Here, see for yourself:

C4 combat site - Note the lack of capital escalation listings
C5 combat site - Note that the capital escalation waves *are* listed

I actually use a Thanatos in a C4, so i can give some real-life (eve-life) advice, not just forums quotes.

My thanatos:

High: 2 Cap armor transfer, 1 cap energy transfer, 1 adv drone link (extra fighter) and 2 faction smartbombs
Medium: sensor booster with scan res script, rest are cap rechargers
Low: 2 faction/deadspace EANM, 1 centum a-type Exp energized, 2 Cap armor reps, 1 damage control T2
Rigs: 2 Cap control circuit T2, 1 CCC T1

This ship can easily tank anything a C4 can throw at it. I have done solo ops with it, but i normally wont since the fighters are costly to lose.

C4 sites DO NOT ESCALATE, believe me, i've done tons of them, and i would have noticed.

With the 2 cap rr's, none of my fleet mates need active reps, they just rely on the RR and fit extra DMG. Watch your overwatch and you shouldn't have issues.

I've never even come close to bein nueted out by the sleepers.

The smartbombs sync up with my systems bonus (magnetar), and with it my fleet never has to target frigates. Smartbombs take them out in 2 cycles. Without the system bonus it'd be much less effective (not just DMG but range). I would reccommend swapping for more drones, or for whatever floats your boat (i know alot who use heavy faction nuets "just in case".

Well if you're going to solo some crap, then you're going to need some target painters in mid. Find they're very useful for some small crap (if its just you and your salvager)

look, like i said on your BC post, your fit is fine for kspace but it has no place in WHs.
there are MANY subcap ships that are better (much better) at killing sleepers and for pvp, it needs to be propper triage fit.

as someone initially mentioned, archon is about a million times better than a thanny if you have that option at all.

Regarding the smartbombs, My system is magnetar which bonuses smartbombs by 68% range and DMG. This puts the faction ones out to 12.4km, 654 DMg every 8 seconds. We never even have to lock sleeper frigates, the smartbombs just rip them open. This doesn't work as well in non-magnetar's though, since even with a 7.5km range the frigates will not be inside that range for long.

Other items you might put in those slots could be: Extra RR energy Xfer, more drones(DPS), faction heavy nuets (they will mess up any tackler in range of you).