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Brooks Puuntai
Solar Nexus.
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Posted - 2013.04.13 09:57:00 -
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Spondoo Lix wrote:Even a low-skilled player can be incredibly useful when working in a group.
My main can't PvP to save her life, yet she can do basic scanning, and so is very handy at finding wormholes, sitting on the the hole spamming d-scan and keeping her eyes open while the rest of the crew run a couple of anoms and huff all the Ladar sites.
I made more isk last night in 4 hours doing that than I would in 3 or 4 nights of running low-level missions.
TL-DR: All characters can be useful from day 1, with a little organization between players.
Telling a new player to sit on a gate/WH spamming a button, isn't really a good selling point for getting people into the game.
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New Eden Training Simulation. -áIdea to improve NPE. |
Spondoo Lix
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.04.13 10:01:00 -
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Brooks Puuntai wrote:
Telling a new player to sit on a gate/WH spamming a button, isn't really a good selling point for getting people into the game.
Maybe - I see it rather as: I can be useful to my team, possibly save their lives, make lots of money, all without having to run mind-numbing level 1 and 2 missions until I have a couple of million SP.
Plus....I volunteered.....no telling me to do it involved :) |
Brooks Puuntai
Solar Nexus.
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Posted - 2013.04.13 10:16:00 -
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Spondoo Lix wrote:
Maybe - I see it rather as: I can be useful to my team, possibly save their lives, make lots of money, all without having to run mind-numbing level 1 and 2 missions until I have a couple of million SP.
Plus....I volunteered.....no telling me to do it involved :)
Don't get me wrong, if you enjoy doing it then all power to you. However running l1-l2s and spamming a button sounds equally mind-numbing.
Really CCP needs to revert back to the starting professions and 900k-1m SP . Allowing new players to get into the game quicker, and not having to waste time with crap skills early on. The current system only favors alts.
Don't Vote for Malcanis
New Eden Training Simulation. -áIdea to improve NPE. |
Ai Shun
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Posted - 2013.04.13 10:24:00 -
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Daisai wrote:To the first poster, the number of 10bil was a figure of speech the price you spend on a character also depends on what you plan to do.
And does that mean that there is no cost to bypassing training for yourself? No, not really. Not quite sure what the argumentative and rude tone is for mate; it's not necessary when we're having a civil discussion.
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Mayhaw Morgan
State War Academy
Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.04.13 12:21:00 -
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What I think a lot of you posters are missing is that he's only been playing a month. He doesn't CARE about EVE the way some of you, with years invested into the game, do. The game has to offer him something. That's why he pays for it. If all he gets is his ass kicked, he has no reason to continue playing. To suggest that he pay for several months and just log in to update his skill queue is not something that will make any sense to a new player, not one that is interested in actually playing the game. Not everyone wants to sit and fantasize about killing others in a video game for 3 or 4 months while their character is cooking. You might as well be suggesting he go pay for phone service but not make any phone calls.
Those of you who would suggest that he has to go through the same stage of impotence that everyone else had to go through are missing the fact that the game isn't the same as it used to be. When many of you started, there weren't any 100 million skillpoint players. There weren't hordes of Tech II and Tech III ships. There wasn't the same level of refinement to the gameplay. Jumping in a Rifter and flying into low sec is just one style of play, and honestly, that just won't get it done, anymore, no matter how many fluke scenarios you reference where some Ibis killed an AFK Machariel.
We all know what new players have to make trade-offs, but really, what trade-offs do older players have to make? Isn't the whole leveling aspect of MMOs exactly the acquisition of advantage over other players? In other MMOs the price of leveling is effort, but in EVE, it is time, and as EVE goes on, that price for new players just gets higher and higher. |
Polaris Sagan
Sagan Enterprises
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Posted - 2013.04.13 12:22:00 -
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It's a shame to see anyone leave EVE really. But if its not for you then unfortunately, youre not going to start liking it any time soon. I would have stuck around until Oddessy but its upto you...
One question... Can I have your stuff?  |
Vaju Enki
Secular Wisdom
572
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Posted - 2013.04.13 12:35:00 -
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If you want instant gratification, go stimulate your genitals. EvE is Hard, deal with it. |
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ISD Cyberdyne
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
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Posted - 2013.04.13 13:15:00 -
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Quote:2. Be respectful toward others at all times.
The purpose of the EVE Online forums is to provide a platform for exchange of ideas, and a venue for the discussion of EVE Online. Occasionally there will be conflicts that arise when people voice opinions. Forum users are expected to be courteous when disagreeing with others.
5. Trolling is prohibited.
Trolling is a defined as a post that is deliberately designed for the purpose of angering and insulting other players in an attempt to incite retaliation or an emotional response. Posts of this nature are disruptive, often abusive and do not contribute to the sense of community that CCP promote.
Please remember to adhere to the forum rules. Be polite. Thank you.
ISD Cyberdyne
Lieutenant
Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs)
Interstellar Services Department |
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ISD Cyberdyne
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
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Posted - 2013.04.13 13:17:00 -
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Quote:3. Ranting is prohibited.
A rant is a post that is often filled with angry and counterproductive comments. A free exchange of ideas is essential to building a strong sense of community and is helpful in development of the game and community. Rants are disruptive, and incite flaming and trolling. Please post your thoughts in a concise and clear manner while avoiding going off on rambling tangents.
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ISD Cyberdyne
Lieutenant
Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs)
Interstellar Services Department |
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