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Posted - 2005.09.18 05:28:00 -
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Gotta agree with Ginger Magician here.
BEfore Coldwar/missile "nerf", my gallente spec char could beat a Raven using cap boosters and 1 large smartbomb. Needed the cap boosters and TWO large reps with 3 hardners to keep the tank long enough to kill Raven.
That Raven was flown by my alt with Caldari BS 3 and Torps 3.
After the patch, Torps 4, Caldari BS 3, all new missile skills at 1 or 2, my Megathron loses 8/10 fights when I go up close.
The Raven doesn't even fit cap boosters, the MEGATHRON in tank mode ALWAYS has to.
And both my accounts can fly Caldari BS to some extent lvl 3 and 4. But they are specced in Amarr and Gallente. And unfortunately, the blaster fitted Megathron is a VERY weak/niche ship. That doesn't even do exceptionally well in its on niche.
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Posted - 2005.09.18 16:06:00 -
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TBH, I don't mind losing to a Raven up close. IF the Raven pilot has invested time in training his skills on missiles and armor for the same amount time. But for a close range blasterthron to lose to a MUCH lower tanked Raven is wrong. Why lose to a ship thats not specced out while having all your skills maxed, all the right setup (save for ew)?
If they don't wish to up the dmg on blasters. I recommend giving them lowered cpu. Make the Neutron IIs *****ble in any kind of REASONABLE setup without having to get faction mods or cpu enhancements
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Posted - 2005.09.18 17:12:00 -
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Its not about Ginger and his ego, or your issues with what he does.
I have tested Ravens, Megas and Armas. And the Mega with blasters is the least feasible ship of the 3 for 1v1s, or for general solo pvp.
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Posted - 2005.09.18 21:17:00 -
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Could you please direct me to where it says the Mega is supposed to be the best at solo pvp ? -It doesn't say that anywhere Yes the Mega is supposed to be the top close range damage dealer in eve and honestly I believe it still is. CCP have said it many times that eve isn't a solo game. Get a corp member to fly a frigate / covert ops to give you a warp in point and the Raven is dead (ie. the Mega isn't gimping it's setup with a mwd) This unfortunately is the life of a close range pilot. These are the tactics that a Raven must employ if they decide to fight close range as fitting a mwd AND an injector AND a warp disruptor AND a tank isn't really an option -If you think that a Raven can tank a Megas damage at close range with 3 slots left over for a tank your off you're rocker. The Raven is a slow and clumbsy ship, it relies 100% on you approaching him. If you're stupid enough to approach and engage a torp raven solo then that's your fault, not the games. Change your tactics. Personally I think the game is getting pretty balanced. Just like there are tactics for taking out a gankageddon the same applies to a Raven.
Could you plz direct me to where I said that the Mega was supposed to be the best solo pvp ship?
Heres what I said
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I have tested Ravens, Megas and Armas. And the Mega with blasters is the least feasible ship of the 3 for 1v1s, or for general solo pvp.
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Posted - 2005.09.19 03:56:00 -
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The above statement implies that because it's at the bottom of your "solo" list everything else should be nerfed. How about the Domi or the Gallente HACS, or the Thorax...or the Gallente assault frigates. You guys have the some of the best solo ships in the game.
The above statement from me doesn't imply anything of the sort. It simply points out that for solo pvp or 1v1, the Geddon and Raven are just better/easier to fit than a Megathron.
My real concern was stated a few posts above that one
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TBH, I don't mind losing to a Raven up close. IF the Raven pilot has invested time in training his skills on missiles and armor for the same amount time. But for a close range blasterthron to lose to a MUCH lower tanked Raven is wrong. Why lose to a ship thats not specced out while having all your skills maxed, all the right setup (save for ew)?
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Posted - 2005.09.19 05:41:00 -
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Yeah, I do realise that quite a few Caldari ships are not what they used to be. Though for solo an ew Scorp does still sound uber :).
BTW, a tanked Megathron with tech II electron blasters does about 380dps... hardly uber. And after getting hit by kin/thermal hardners that drops QUITE a bit. I can get that much from my omen :)
This tanked Megathron requires a cap booster with full load of 800 cap boosters to be able to tank an averagely well skilled Raven pilot with torps. Since it is impossible to run 2 Large reps for ANY length of time on a decent setup.
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Posted - 2005.09.19 06:18:00 -
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only if it has cap boosters Rex
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Posted - 2005.09.20 07:27:00 -
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Mega - great sniper/top damage dealer/nice tank
Domi - top solo battleship
Raven = Great Tank, great volley dmg, great slot layout
Scorp = Top solo BS, Awesome shield tank capability.
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Posted - 2005.09.22 07:35:00 -
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The only ship that challenges it in close quarters is the Raven and only when the Mega is fitted with a mwd.
False.
Best close range ship if using cap boosters and tanks of any nature between Mega and Tempest. Tempest will win.
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