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TomB
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Posted - 2003.07.29 14:34:00 -
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These blueprints were missing on the market and will be available on the live server on next patch update: (chaos should get updated with this soon)
Microwarpdrive I
EMP L
EMP S
Fusion M
Phased Plasma L
Phased Plasma M
Phased Plasma S
Acolyte I
Heavy Beam Laser I
Medium Beam Laser I
Tachyon Beam Laser I
Multifrequency L
Multifrequency M
Multifrequency S
Antimatter L
Antimatter M
Antimatter S
Plutonium L
Plutonium M
Plutonium S
150mm Railgun I
425mm Railgun I
Heavy Neutron Blaster I
1400mm Howitzer Artillery I
280mm Howitzer Artillery I
780mm Howitzer Artillery I
Large Shield Extender I
Photon Scattering Field I
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Hippey
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Posted - 2003.07.29 14:45:00 -
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Welcome back, TomB 
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If you kill them, they will die!
Sport the war, war support
The sport is war, total war
When victory's really a massacre.
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drunkenmaster
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Posted - 2003.07.29 14:49:00 -
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superb, thanks for the heads up.
except you forgot the BP for 'Drunktech super 5800mm heavy gauss hybrid projectile laser mk III (with shield boost)'
I'll note this as an oversight, and be expecting it in the next update. 
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Johnson McCrae
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Posted - 2003.07.29 15:03:00 -
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Edited by: Johnson McCrae on 29/07/2003 15:03:07
Thank you TomB. Was wondering why AM bp's were harder to find than chicken teeth. 
It ain't over till the fat lady falls on ya!
[ 2004.10.09 02:50:23 ] (combat) Your 425mm Compressed Coil Gun I perfectly strikes Guardian Sentry, wrecking for 747.3 damage.
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Blood Hawk
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Posted - 2003.07.29 15:12:00 -
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I can supply with AM S and M bp's
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zincol
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Posted - 2003.07.29 16:03:00 -
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Edited by: zincol on 29/07/2003 16:04:03
cool,and when will this be taking places....
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Grymwulf
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Posted - 2003.07.29 16:36:00 -
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These blueprints were missing on the market and will be available on the live server on next patch update: (chaos should get updated with this soon)
Note the statement: next patch update
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zincol
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Posted - 2003.07.29 16:39:00 -
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Quote:
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These blueprints were missing on the market and will be available on the live server on next patch update: (chaos should get updated with this soon)
Note the statement: next patch update
yesssss but when is da next patch lol!!!
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Virulence
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Posted - 2003.07.29 17:00:00 -
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what about the missing skills?
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Hottie
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Posted - 2003.07.29 22:50:00 -
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And there was much rejoicing! 
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Thano
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Posted - 2003.07.29 23:02:00 -
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oooohhh looks like im going to have to start saveing even more money
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ga'ia
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Posted - 2003.07.30 00:07:00 -
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wb TomB, glad to have u back
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Jarjar
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Posted - 2003.07.30 01:46:00 -
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Edited by: Jarjar on 30/07/2003 01:48:30
Mmmmm tachyons. *drool*
Edit: I believe Astrogeology, Metallurgy and Research will make it to the market, too. |
Falzone
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Posted - 2003.07.30 08:32:00 -
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is tomb the head dev the guy that was on vacation if so i'd just like to thank you for going on vacation, keeping our money and doing very little to improve the game.
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ga'ia
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Posted - 2003.07.30 11:31:00 -
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Falzone, you should apologize to TomB! The devs have worked on EVE without any vacation for atleast two, do u think you could work for two years without a break!? baka
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Balack
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Posted - 2003.07.30 11:32:00 -
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I realise I'm gonna get royally flamed here but...
This is a joke, what do you mean "missing"? they weren't missing, just nobody except a few bought them before you magically removed all the copies from the market last time.
Talk about **** the market up even more, you should've done it properly in the first place and only released a certian number of BP's that way you'd know that 20,000 original plutinium (or whatever) existed.
As it stands the economy is boosted by demand for these rare BP's, not for long though soon everyone will be making ammo, and thats another market ****ed.
Playing Eve isnt about planning a mega corp its about seconded guessing how CCP will **** you in the a55 next.
And what about the missing drone BP's like berserker!!!!!
PS, get your edit pen out, or just simply remove my post, I couldn't care less I'm so mad right now
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Robomonkey
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Posted - 2003.07.30 13:25:00 -
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I must say I'm very disapointed (borderline disgusted) with this update.
My corp is currently mainly based around selling researched BP copies, in fact we recently purchased an original medium Phased Plamsa for many millions of isk, and when the market presented itself (before highways and shuttles) we spent days if not weeks visiting all the other regions to get a copy of each BP, both of these endouvers are now wasted time and money.
I apperciate that 90% of people will welcome this change, this is because 90% of people don't have the BP's. Even though copies are all still available you just have to watch the trade channel.
I think this is also very badly implemented, why are you telling people of this change TomB????, I'd really like to know, all it does is kill the current market and lets scammers sell any originals they currently have for large sums of cash to the unaware.
These extra copies should also be introduced gradually, so as to slowly decline the demand, not just wipe it out in one go. Good story line!!!!!, what happened, every station in the galaxy suddenly found a long lost supply????
This sort of change should just be implemented without any advance notice, as now people who have the time to read the boards are at an advantage to those that don't, same as the lab slots, why tell people what you're going to do, just do it and then tell people, that way everyone is on an even playing field.
These changes keep being made, but no allowance is ever made for the effects they have, just like the corps that were mining Arka from day one, they still have 100's millions of isk in bank, after the change other players cannot even hope to come close to this.
This is the third time my corp has been screwed now, we seem to keep putting a lot of effort and thought into things that just get thrown away with a patch.
A very unhappy and disapointed Robo.
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annoing
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Posted - 2003.07.30 13:39:00 -
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Hey Robomonkey --
The reason being is that have to take care of the carebears and their mega corp friends who missed out when they were first released.
That is CCP and the EVE dev team for you
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The Inquisition
Long live the Inquisition
Long live the Emperor
Long live Amarr!
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annoing
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Posted - 2003.07.30 13:39:00 -
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Hey Robomonkey --
The reason being is that have to take care of the carebears and their mega corp friends who missed out when they were first released.
That is CCP and the EVE dev team for you
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The Inquisition
Long live the Inquisition
Long live the Emperor
Long live Amarr!
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j0sephine
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Posted - 2003.07.30 13:51:00 -
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"we spent days if not weeks visiting all the other regions to get a copy of each BP, both of these endouvers are now wasted time and money."
Thanks to your endeavours you had quite a few weeks of headstart to research your BPs and cash on being practically exclusive supplier.
How's that 'wasted time and money'?..
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Varsuuk
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Posted - 2003.07.30 14:12:00 -
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It really has to do with reducing the extremely negative affects of the bp change (for the better as long as it is not impossible to buy originals) coming. Some bps disappeared because they went from huge (too many) to tiny amounts on market FROM a DEV CHANGE... not being bought - then they were bought out. For some reason EMP M was reintroduced and I had hoped for others, but never came.
As for ammo suppliers... I am one. I'd love to know what regions you are supplying, I am sure you DO sell ammo - but do you cover all the emp regions? cos boy do we need more ammo vendors (well, I am happy we dont have that many ;P) I am not too worried about ammo as long as it isn't overdone. There is not much profit and alot of maintenance in selling AMMO, vs the BP (likely what is bothering some most) This can easily be determined by seeing just how LITTLE of the rare bp ammo is SOLD ;)
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Robomonkey
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Posted - 2003.07.30 14:13:00 -
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How is it wasted time and money???
We spent a large proportion of out profits on a phased plasma BP, about 4-5 days ago, that money is wasted.
And its wasted time because we now have a set of original researched BP's that are all worthless.
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kewl007
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Posted - 2003.07.30 14:14:00 -
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Edited by: kewl007 on 30/07/2003 14:16:59
i would just like to say that Falzone is a moron and that he should be banned for insulting a DEV like that... i mean c'mon you never take vacation maybe ? Falzone=foo
Having that said i would like to thank TomB for adding those BPs... 425mm railgun was just inexistant and the rarity of those BP only contributed to make a monopoly situation... now you guys have to explain me why in a capitalist economy a market in monopoly is a good situation... IT IS NOT. Players should be able to compete with each other regarding the price of those items not one player selling Tachyons for 5M a piece..
and Robomoney.. that's the price to pay to see the game improves... last time they added production efficiency a couple of ppl were ****ed coz they had bought the skill 3 days before patch for 25M.... coz it used to be rare and loot only. sry to say but that's a small and needed price to pay to see this game improves..
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JaminBen
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Posted - 2003.07.30 14:24:00 -
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So whats the point in introducing another load of bp originals,are u gonna do the same again in two months time when they are all sold out again and totally screw the bp copy market.
Also why are u posting this here its a damn outrage cos u have just created a temporay exploit for those ppl that havent read this tiny little post.I have seen ppl getting royaly screwed last night paying 25 mill for large anti matter original think they where getting a good deal only to find they can buy one on the market next patch day.
If you are gonna change the game peramiters then u have to let all the ppl know not just a select few who have the time to read this hidden post.Next time make a message appear on screen when u log into the game warning ppl this is happening.
One more thing TomB why dont u sod off back on holiday or where ever u where and leave us in peace cos yes i was one of those that wasted millions of isk last night GGRRRRRRR
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Robomonkey
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Posted - 2003.07.30 14:24:00 -
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Varsuuk...thats exactly the problem to start with there was like 50,000 copies of every BP in virtually every station, then the next day there was 10, hence they all became rare and valuable.
What should've happened is the Devs should've run queries to see how many copies of each BP had been sold and then made up the numbers to say 2000 each in the market. But thats not what happened.
And I agree that this is a change to make the limited production run change seem better.
Robo
PS I think I've seen you touting your wares on the trade channel 
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JaminBen
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Posted - 2003.07.30 14:26:00 -
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So whats the point in introducing another load of bp originals,are u gonna do the same again in two months time when they are all sold out again and totally screw the bp copy market.
Also why are u posting this here its a damn outrage cos u have just created a temporay exploit for those ppl that havent read this tiny little post.I have seen ppl getting royaly screwed last night paying 25 mill for large anti matter original think they where getting a good deal only to find they can buy one on the market next patch day.
If you are gonna change the game peramiters then u have to let all the ppl know not just a select few who have the time to read this hidden post.Next time make a message appear on screen when u log into the game warning ppl this is happening.
One more thing TomB why dont u sod off back on holiday or where ever u where and leave us in peace cos yes i was one of those that wasted millions of isk last night GGRRRRRRR
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BSOD
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Posted - 2003.07.30 14:29:00 -
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So whats the point in introducing another load of bp originals,are u gonna do the same again in two months time when they are all sold out again and totally screw the bp copy market.
Also why are u posting this here its a damn outrage cos u have just created a temporay exploit for those ppl that havent read this tiny little post.I have seen ppl getting royaly screwed last night paying 25 mill for large anti matter original think they where getting a good deal only to find they can buy one on the market next patch day.
If you are gonna change the game peramiters then u have to let all the ppl know not just a select few who have the time to read this hidden post.Next time make a message appear on screen when u log into the game warning ppl this is happening.
One more thing TomB why dont u sod off back on holiday or where ever u where and leave us in peace cos yes i was one of those that wasted millions of isk last night GGRRRRRRR
"BP copy market"
I think it should be obvious that the devs frown upon the "BP copy market". If you had ANY clue whatsoever, you wouldn't have been betting on the copy market in the past few weeks, as it was announced long ago that copies were going to be nerfed. Essentially, as of next patch, copies are going to become nearly worthless due to their usage limit.
If you had a business set up around selling BP copies, then too bad. The writing has been on the wall for weeks.
TomB: What about the following BPs:
Basic Coprocessor - I've been unable to find a BP for this for months.
Basic Magnetic Field Stabilizer - I don't think a BP was ever available for this, only pirate drops given the quantities available for sale. Why do projectile users get a damage mod with a BP available but hybrid users don't?
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Fallen Angel
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Posted - 2003.07.30 14:34:00 -
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limited... usage... next... patch?
wha?
Fallen Angel doesn't like those words because the only way his corp would have EVER afforded a battleship blueprint would be a copy.
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Robomonkey
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Posted - 2003.07.30 14:36:00 -
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Kewl007...How can this be an improvement?? all it means is another once valuable item is now common, thus reducing demand once again.
And how is it fair to people who paid 25m for PE 2-3 days before they were released on the market, these sort of changes should be made on a schedule, so if you know when they're gonna release new things or change the mechanics of the game and economy. They should announce it a month earlier, now what wrong with that??? a serious question, whats wrong with having a schedule???
If this was an improvement they would be released gradually and in different regions, but I bet on patch day every region will have as many copies as they want.
Also what about the Berserker BP???
Robo
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JaminBen
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Posted - 2003.07.30 14:39:00 -
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Hmmm no i dont think they wanna get rid of the copy market or they wouldnt have spent time on coding making the copies last a limited amount of time and what else are u gonna need the labs for maybe reverse engineering dont make me laugh we'll never see that in our life times the rate ccp are going.
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