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Entity X-Factor Industries Synthetic Existence 391	Posted - 2013.04.18 15:36:00 - [1] - Quote CCP Peligro wrote: Please, consider the fact that cache scraping can be used for illegitimate purposes which are damaging to the overall health of the game, Cars can be used to run over people. I don't see the government issuing blanket threats to car drivers. GòªGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGòæGûæGûæGûæGòöGòùGûæGòæGûæGòæGûæGòöGòùGûæGòªGòæGûæGòöGòùGòöGòªGòùGòöGòù GòæGûæGòöGòùGòöGòùGòöGòúGûæGòöGòùGòáGûæGûæGòáGûæGòáGòùGòáGò¥GûæGòæGòáGûæGòáGò¥GòæGòæGòæGòÜGòù Gò¬GòÉGòÜGò¥GòæGûæGòÜGò¥GûæGòÜGò¥GòæGûæGûæGòÜGò¥GòæGòæGòÜGò¥GûæGò¬GòÜGò¥GòÜGò¥GòæGûæGòæGòÜGò¥ Got Item?
Entity X-Factor Industries Synthetic Existence 391	Posted - 2013.04.18 15:38:00 - [2] - Quote Also http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=734561&page=1#9 GòªGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGòæGûæGûæGûæGòöGòùGûæGòæGûæGòæGûæGòöGòùGûæGòªGòæGûæGòöGòùGòöGòªGòùGòöGòù GòæGûæGòöGòùGòöGòùGòöGòúGûæGòöGòùGòáGûæGûæGòáGûæGòáGòùGòáGò¥GûæGòæGòáGûæGòáGò¥GòæGòæGòæGòÜGòù Gò¬GòÉGòÜGò¥GòæGûæGòÜGò¥GûæGòÜGò¥GòæGûæGûæGòÜGò¥GòæGòæGòÜGò¥GûæGò¬GòÜGò¥GòÜGò¥GòæGûæGòæGòÜGò¥ Got Item?
Entity X-Factor Industries Synthetic Existence 397	Posted - 2013.04.18 15:56:00 - [3] - Quote CCP Peligro wrote: Entity wrote: CCP Peligro wrote: Please, consider the fact that cache scraping can be used for illegitimate purposes which are damaging to the overall health of the game, Cars can be used to run over people. I don't see the government issuing blanket threats to car drivers. Hi Entity! There are no blanket threats here, I'm sorry you see it that way. We've stated our intent numerous times, and I'll do it again; the policies are in place to protect the well being of the game. We'll use these policies to get rid of cheaters, and I'm sure you don't want them around any more than we do. Obviously I do not want cheaters screwing with the game any more than you. The problem is, having had the only 100% compatible cache decoder since pretty much the launch of the game, being a labor of love, you can understand that I am a bit concerned about the legal status and continued life of my pet project. A project which was given the green light by high-ups in CCP after internal discussion back then when I submitted it for review. Additionally, explicit public permission for decoding the cache was granted. So yeah, I'm not particularly happy atm. GòªGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGòæGûæGûæGûæGòöGòùGûæGòæGûæGòæGûæGòöGòùGûæGòªGòæGûæGòöGòùGòöGòªGòùGòöGòù GòæGûæGòöGòùGòöGòùGòöGòúGûæGòöGòùGòáGûæGûæGòáGûæGòáGòùGòáGò¥GûæGòæGòáGûæGòáGò¥GòæGòæGòæGòÜGòù Gò¬GòÉGòÜGò¥GòæGûæGòÜGò¥GûæGòÜGò¥GòæGûæGûæGòÜGò¥GòæGòæGòÜGò¥GûæGò¬GòÜGò¥GòÜGò¥GòæGûæGòæGòÜGò¥ Got Item?
Entity X-Factor Industries Synthetic Existence 402	Posted - 2013.04.18 16:06:00 - [4] - Quote Callic Veratar wrote: Entity wrote: CCP Peligro wrote: Please, consider the fact that cache scraping can be used for illegitimate purposes which are damaging to the overall health of the game, Cars can be used to run over people. I don't see the government issuing blanket threats to car drivers. Really, these things are all over the place around here. That is not a blanket threat. That's saying "if you use your vehicle to do bad things, you will get slapped", which is fine. To keep with the car analogy, what CCP just said is "Driving a car is now illegal, but if you behave, we probably won't take action if you are driving one". GòªGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGòæGûæGûæGûæGòöGòùGûæGòæGûæGòæGûæGòöGòùGûæGòªGòæGûæGòöGòùGòöGòªGòùGòöGòù GòæGûæGòöGòùGòöGòùGòöGòúGûæGòöGòùGòáGûæGûæGòáGûæGòáGòùGòáGò¥GûæGòæGòáGûæGòáGò¥GòæGòæGòæGòÜGòù Gò¬GòÉGòÜGò¥GòæGûæGòÜGò¥GûæGòÜGò¥GòæGûæGûæGòÜGò¥GòæGòæGòÜGò¥GûæGò¬GòÜGò¥GòÜGò¥GòæGûæGòæGòÜGò¥ Got Item?
Entity X-Factor Industries Synthetic Existence 412	Posted - 2013.04.18 16:27:00 - [5] - Quote Callic Veratar wrote: They have stated there is an group looking into moving the market data (and more) into CREST. Once that happens there's no reason to scrape the cache as there's an official, supported, and equal method for everyone to access all of the data. In an ideal world, that'd be an acceptable solution. Unfortunately we're living in a world where these can happen: - API is down. - CCP does not release database dumps in a timely manner. - Dump does not contain some information or is otherwise faulty. - Internet connection is down. There are many, many legitimate reasons to read the cache and bulkdata. My library exists to not depend on CCP for completely harmless and useful data that is already sitting right there on my harddisk. GòªGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGòæGûæGûæGûæGòöGòùGûæGòæGûæGòæGûæGòöGòùGûæGòªGòæGûæGòöGòùGòöGòªGòùGòöGòù GòæGûæGòöGòùGòöGòùGòöGòúGûæGòöGòùGòáGûæGûæGòáGûæGòáGòùGòáGò¥GûæGòæGòáGûæGòáGò¥GòæGòæGòæGòÜGòù Gò¬GòÉGòÜGò¥GòæGûæGòÜGò¥GûæGòÜGò¥GòæGûæGûæGòÜGò¥GòæGòæGòÜGò¥GûæGò¬GòÜGò¥GòÜGò¥GòæGûæGòæGòÜGò¥ Got Item?
Entity X-Factor Industries Synthetic Existence 417	Posted - 2013.04.18 16:49:00 - [6] - Quote Ranger 1 wrote: Except of course that they point blank explained that they won't, and why. You choose to ignore that. Yeah, because policy made in a forum post that will get buried in time by many other posts and threads is so assuring, right? Oh wait! Edit: this post editor sucks so bad for reverting to old drafts randomly. GòªGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGòæGûæGûæGûæGòöGòùGûæGòæGûæGòæGûæGòöGòùGûæGòªGòæGûæGòöGòùGòöGòªGòùGòöGòù GòæGûæGòöGòùGòöGòùGòöGòúGûæGòöGòùGòáGûæGûæGòáGûæGòáGòùGòáGò¥GûæGòæGòáGûæGòáGò¥GòæGòæGòæGòÜGòù Gò¬GòÉGòÜGò¥GòæGûæGòÜGò¥GûæGòÜGò¥GòæGûæGûæGòÜGò¥GòæGòæGòÜGò¥GûæGò¬GòÜGò¥GòÜGò¥GòæGûæGòæGòÜGò¥ Got Item?
Entity X-Factor Industries Synthetic Existence 422	Posted - 2013.04.18 17:52:00 - [7] - Quote Ranger 1 wrote: War Kitten wrote: Can we have a list of programs that you're currently tolerating instead? :) The problem with list is that some of these pieces of software include things that can easily be used to go beyond their simple function as a utility. Providing a list opens a loop hole that would be much more difficult to plug. Yup. My library for example, can be used for evil (by combining it with other things). I sincerely hope people aren't doing that though, I didn't write it for that. And I don't expect CCP to greenlist anything really. They can't. I know that. But this "rule by fear/terror" thing is not the way to handle the bigger issue (people abusing the otherwise harmless game data to cheat) here. Punish people that cheat. Leave us 3rd party devs increasing the value of CCP's product go about our business in peace. GòªGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGòæGûæGûæGûæGòöGòùGûæGòæGûæGòæGûæGòöGòùGûæGòªGòæGûæGòöGòùGòöGòªGòùGòöGòù GòæGûæGòöGòùGòöGòùGòöGòúGûæGòöGòùGòáGûæGûæGòáGûæGòáGòùGòáGò¥GûæGòæGòáGûæGòáGò¥GòæGòæGòæGòÜGòù Gò¬GòÉGòÜGò¥GòæGûæGòÜGò¥GûæGòÜGò¥GòæGûæGûæGòÜGò¥GòæGòæGòÜGò¥GûæGò¬GòÜGò¥GòÜGò¥GòæGûæGòæGòÜGò¥ Got Item?
Entity X-Factor Industries Synthetic Existence 427	Posted - 2013.04.18 18:36:00 - [8] - Quote Oh got an even better analogy now. Problem: People are using cars to run over other people! Dear God! We need some legislation to punish people for doing that! Do you: A) Ban cars, but make a legally non-binding promise you won't punish someone using one for benign purposes, even though they remain in violation of this law. B) Ban using cars to run people over. C) Ban the act of running people over through any means and leave cars (which are just the means to achieve a result which could be achieved in many other ways) out of it. CCP chose A. (Hint: C is the correct response, but B would be acceptable) GòªGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGòæGûæGûæGûæGòöGòùGûæGòæGûæGòæGûæGòöGòùGûæGòªGòæGûæGòöGòùGòöGòªGòùGòöGòù GòæGûæGòöGòùGòöGòùGòöGòúGûæGòöGòùGòáGûæGûæGòáGûæGòáGòùGòáGò¥GûæGòæGòáGûæGòáGò¥GòæGòæGòæGòÜGòù Gò¬GòÉGòÜGò¥GòæGûæGòÜGò¥GûæGòÜGò¥GòæGûæGûæGòÜGò¥GòæGòæGòÜGò¥GûæGò¬GòÜGò¥GòÜGò¥GòæGûæGòæGòÜGò¥ Got Item?
Entity X-Factor Industries Synthetic Existence 433	Posted - 2013.04.18 19:53:00 - [9] - Quote Uppsy Daisy wrote: What a load of rubbish. You could download Process Monitor from Microsoft, set it up it monitor the cache folder, filter out the eve process, then you would see straight away if any other processes accessed any cache files, which would be illegal. Okay, and how you would detect this if your detection process (the game client) isn't even running? Or hey, I what if I backup the My Documents folder? Am I violation now? the backup accessed those files to copy them? It really is not enforceable. I think everyone will agree cache reading/scraping is an enabler (to cheating), but on its own it's just a tool, which you can use for good or bad. CCP should go after people doing the latter, but not outlaw a widely used tool JUST because it might perhaps maybe be used for bad things. If you extended the reasoning CCP displayed here, mice should be banned (they can control bot software), keyboards should be banned (they can be used to write bots/execute macros), etc. GòªGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGòæGûæGûæGûæGòöGòùGûæGòæGûæGòæGûæGòöGòùGûæGòªGòæGûæGòöGòùGòöGòªGòùGòöGòù GòæGûæGòöGòùGòöGòùGòöGòúGûæGòöGòùGòáGûæGûæGòáGûæGòáGòùGòáGò¥GûæGòæGòáGûæGòáGò¥GòæGòæGòæGòÜGòù Gò¬GòÉGòÜGò¥GòæGûæGòÜGò¥GûæGòÜGò¥GòæGûæGûæGòÜGò¥GòæGòæGòÜGò¥GûæGò¬GòÜGò¥GòÜGò¥GòæGûæGòæGòÜGò¥ Got Item?
Entity X-Factor Industries Synthetic Existence 437	Posted - 2013.04.18 20:40:00 - [10] - Quote Inquisitor Kitchner wrote: Just out of curiosity, if you're saying the EULA hasn't changed, what exactly was it the Dev Blog was supposed to achieve? If cache scraping was always against the EULA, but you're still not going to ban "legitimate" EVE players, what purpose was the Dev Blog supposed to achieve? I can think of a few things! - Causing fear and confusion that hits mostly just the good guys and not the bad guys (who really don't give a hoot about all this). - Show the playerbase they are allegedly still "on the ball" when it comes to cheaters by posting figures on banning accounts of people who use a fairly low impact hack (WarpToZero) instead of the ones that actually severely degrade the game experience (market bots, mining bots, etc). I mean, yay, congratulations, you succesfully banned people that used a hack that was literally one line of code. golfclap - Reminder cheating is bad (it is!) (Not saying the WarpToZero ones shouldn't be banned, but you know, wooptidoo, etc). I apologize for the sarcasm laden post, but I'm really not amused by how this was all done. GòªGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGòæGûæGûæGûæGòöGòùGûæGòæGûæGòæGûæGòöGòùGûæGòªGòæGûæGòöGòùGòöGòªGòùGòöGòù GòæGûæGòöGòùGòöGòùGòöGòúGûæGòöGòùGòáGûæGûæGòáGûæGòáGòùGòáGò¥GûæGòæGòáGûæGòáGò¥GòæGòæGòæGòÜGòù Gò¬GòÉGòÜGò¥GòæGûæGòÜGò¥GûæGòÜGò¥GòæGûæGûæGòÜGò¥GòæGòæGòÜGò¥GûæGò¬GòÜGò¥GòÜGò¥GòæGûæGòæGòÜGò¥ Got Item?

Entity X-Factor Industries Synthetic Existence 442	Posted - 2013.04.19 00:12:00 - [11] - Quote Rosewalker wrote: Boris Borison wrote: If you want to make cache scrapping illegal, just encrypt it, or am I missing something here? My understanding is that the cache files are encrypted You can stop there, your understanding is wrong. GòªGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGòæGûæGûæGûæGòöGòùGûæGòæGûæGòæGûæGòöGòùGûæGòªGòæGûæGòöGòùGòöGòªGòùGòöGòù GòæGûæGòöGòùGòöGòùGòöGòúGûæGòöGòùGòáGûæGûæGòáGûæGòáGòùGòáGò¥GûæGòæGòáGûæGòáGò¥GòæGòæGòæGòÜGòù Gò¬GòÉGòÜGò¥GòæGûæGòÜGò¥GûæGòÜGò¥GòæGûæGûæGòÜGò¥GòæGòæGòÜGò¥GûæGò¬GòÜGò¥GòÜGò¥GòæGûæGòæGòÜGò¥ Got Item?
Entity X-Factor Industries Synthetic Existence 444	Posted - 2013.04.19 15:56:00 - [12] - Quote Muul Udonii wrote: CCP Stillman wrote: In addition, we also may consider eliminating the cache to eliminate this practice and for performance reasons. But then what will you ask us to clear every time we report a problem with your game? I lolled GòªGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGòæGûæGûæGûæGòöGòùGûæGòæGûæGòæGûæGòöGòùGûæGòªGòæGûæGòöGòùGòöGòªGòùGòöGòù GòæGûæGòöGòùGòöGòùGòöGòúGûæGòöGòùGòáGûæGûæGòáGûæGòáGòùGòáGò¥GûæGòæGòáGûæGòáGò¥GòæGòæGòæGòÜGòù Gò¬GòÉGòÜGò¥GòæGûæGòÜGò¥GûæGòÜGò¥GòæGûæGûæGòÜGò¥GòæGòæGòÜGò¥GûæGò¬GòÜGò¥GòÜGò¥GòæGûæGòæGòÜGò¥ Got Item?
Entity X-Factor Industries Synthetic Existence 444	Posted - 2013.04.19 19:12:00 - [13] - Quote CCP Peligro wrote: "It doesn't impact gameplay negatively for the vast majority of players." Oh really? What is this based on? Modified clients place additional load on the servers, they are therefore detrimental to the ability of our legitimate players to enjoy EVE Online. Modified clients can definitely cause undue load, but that depends entirely on what they do. GòªGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGòæGûæGûæGûæGòöGòùGûæGòæGûæGòæGûæGòöGòùGûæGòªGòæGûæGòöGòùGòöGòªGòùGòöGòù GòæGûæGòöGòùGòöGòùGòöGòúGûæGòöGòùGòáGûæGûæGòáGûæGòáGòùGòáGò¥GûæGòæGòáGûæGòáGò¥GòæGòæGòæGòÜGòù Gò¬GòÉGòÜGò¥GòæGûæGòÜGò¥GûæGòÜGò¥GòæGûæGûæGòÜGò¥GòæGòæGòÜGò¥GûæGò¬GòÜGò¥GòÜGò¥GòæGûæGòæGòÜGò¥ Got Item?
Entity X-Factor Industries Synthetic Existence 444	Posted - 2013.04.19 20:51:00 - [14] - Quote Vibramycin wrote: Entity wrote: CCP Peligro wrote: "It doesn't impact gameplay negatively for the vast majority of players." Oh really? What is this based on? Modified clients place additional load on the servers, they are therefore detrimental to the ability of our legitimate players to enjoy EVE Online. Modified clients can definitely cause undue load, but that depends entirely on what they do. It also negatively impacts gameplay by making it artificially safe and fast using cheaty autopilot. Autopilot (the regular non-cheaty) used to warp you to zero, but CCP changed that intentionally and, IMHO for good reasons. Not disagreeing with this (or any other) hack being bad for the game. By all means terminate cheating players with extreme prejudice. I'm merely not subscribing to Peligro's sweeping statement. It's not as bad as the "I'll create a GUI interface using Visual Basic, see if I can track an IP address" video he linked to, but it's still wrong enough to make me go "". Heck, It's entirely possible to create client mods that behave nice, are benign, do not cause any additional load, improve UI usability, etc. In the end, it's all python code and 3rd party programmer's code need not be any different than CCP's own code. (And no, I don't use client mods myself, nor do I recommend it ;-) GòªGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGòæGûæGûæGûæGòöGòùGûæGòæGûæGòæGûæGòöGòùGûæGòªGòæGûæGòöGòùGòöGòªGòùGòöGòù GòæGûæGòöGòùGòöGòùGòöGòúGûæGòöGòùGòáGûæGûæGòáGûæGòáGòùGòáGò¥GûæGòæGòáGûæGòáGò¥GòæGòæGòæGòÜGòù Gò¬GòÉGòÜGò¥GòæGûæGòÜGò¥GûæGòÜGò¥GòæGûæGûæGòÜGò¥GòæGòæGòÜGò¥GûæGò¬GòÜGò¥GòÜGò¥GòæGûæGòæGòÜGò¥ Got Item?
Entity X-Factor Industries Synthetic Existence 444	Posted - 2013.04.19 23:50:00 - [15] - Quote dr mineral wrote: ah , 2 of my acounts are banned , this char not , and have the same crime . so , not everybody with a crime is punished . Someone, quick, give this man a Darwin Award before CCP reads this! GòªGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGòæGûæGûæGûæGòöGòùGûæGòæGûæGòæGûæGòöGòùGûæGòªGòæGûæGòöGòùGòöGòªGòùGòöGòù GòæGûæGòöGòùGòöGòùGòöGòúGûæGòöGòùGòáGûæGûæGòáGûæGòáGòùGòáGò¥GûæGòæGòáGûæGòáGò¥GòæGòæGòæGòÜGòù Gò¬GòÉGòÜGò¥GòæGûæGòÜGò¥GûæGòÜGò¥GòæGûæGûæGòÜGò¥GòæGòæGòÜGò¥GûæGò¬GòÜGò¥GòÜGò¥GòæGûæGòæGòÜGò¥ Got Item?
Entity X-Factor Industries Synthetic Existence 445	Posted - 2013.04.21 04:09:00 - [16] - Quote Bloody Wench wrote: stuff An analogy probably helps to make the less programming savvy understand. Here's the general method used to detect modified clients: Fact: CCP only issues black executive cars. Observation: You are driving a CCP car that is acid green, has spinners, stickers of manufacturers of stuff not even present in the car, fake carbon hood, pink neon UFO lighting, and a stupid huge spoiler, mounted backwards on the supports because you're a lame ricer. Conclusion: There is a reasonable chance your car might be modified. No wait, I'm just kidding. Your car is modified, durrr. Action: Ban, lol. (to be fair, if CCP only checked the seats, you'd probably still be in the clear if you didn't change those! ;-) GòªGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGòæGûæGûæGûæGòöGòùGûæGòæGûæGòæGûæGòöGòùGûæGòªGòæGûæGòöGòùGòöGòªGòùGòöGòù GòæGûæGòöGòùGòöGòùGòöGòúGûæGòöGòùGòáGûæGûæGòáGûæGòáGòùGòáGò¥GûæGòæGòáGûæGòáGò¥GòæGòæGòæGòÜGòù Gò¬GòÉGòÜGò¥GòæGûæGòÜGò¥GûæGòÜGò¥GòæGûæGûæGòÜGò¥GòæGòæGòÜGò¥GûæGò¬GòÜGò¥GòÜGò¥GòæGûæGòæGòÜGò¥ Got Item?
Entity X-Factor Industries Synthetic Existence 445	Posted - 2013.04.21 16:58:00 - [17] - Quote Midnight Firestarter wrote: Can CCP ban me for using it .. I would love to see them try .... I have no issue filing a small claim for 10+ years subscription for a total cost to me of -ú50 in a UK court and see them having to fly over from Iceland to defend or pay up. You seem to have missed the part where CCP can legally refuse service to you for any or no reason. GòªGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGòæGûæGûæGûæGòöGòùGûæGòæGûæGòæGûæGòöGòùGûæGòªGòæGûæGòöGòùGòöGòªGòùGòöGòù GòæGûæGòöGòùGòöGòùGòöGòúGûæGòöGòùGòáGûæGûæGòáGûæGòáGòùGòáGò¥GûæGòæGòáGûæGòáGò¥GòæGòæGòæGòÜGòù Gò¬GòÉGòÜGò¥GòæGûæGòÜGò¥GûæGòÜGò¥GòæGûæGûæGòÜGò¥GòæGòæGòÜGò¥GûæGò¬GòÜGò¥GòÜGò¥GòæGûæGòæGòÜGò¥ Got Item?
Entity X-Factor Industries Synthetic Existence 461	Posted - 2013.04.25 22:11:00 - [18] - Quote AirRep wrote: So, re-texturing( if possible) is okay? 9. C 4th paragraph You may not copy, distribute, rent, lease, loan, modify or create derivative works of, adapt, translate, perform, display, sublicense or transfer any information accessible through the System, including without limitation, any part of the Game Content or User Content, or any item, object or character in your Account, except that, solely to the extent permitted by the System, you may modify certain Game Content and User Content only for your own purposes in playing the Game. GòªGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGòæGûæGûæGûæGòöGòùGûæGòæGûæGòæGûæGòöGòùGûæGòªGòæGûæGòöGòùGòöGòªGòùGòöGòù GòæGûæGòöGòùGòöGòùGòöGòúGûæGòöGòùGòáGûæGûæGòáGûæGòáGòùGòáGò¥GûæGòæGòáGûæGòáGò¥GòæGòæGòæGòÜGòù Gò¬GòÉGòÜGò¥GòæGûæGòÜGò¥GûæGòÜGò¥GòæGûæGûæGòÜGò¥GòæGòæGòÜGò¥GûæGò¬GòÜGò¥GòÜGò¥GòæGûæGòæGòÜGò¥ Got Item?
Entity X-Factor Industries Synthetic Existence 462	Posted - 2013.05.02 18:11:00 - [19] - Quote gabriel7a7 wrote: I also remember that this history I present below also was the subject of analysis at the time and never did anything about it from your company. Now they want to be neat and clean saying there are privileged few or no advantage over other, less even than several have been perma banned for use according to CCP programs take isk easy. Any remember!!! Quote: The cheating scandal in EVE Online begins to clear. . . One of the developers of EVE Online, called "t20", has admitted fraudulently obtained items in this massively multiplayer online title. The developer won eight planes in June 2006, that have reported earnings billionaires in game virtual currency. An internal investigation initiated by CCP, the studio that developed the game, uncovered irregularities, but despite complaints from other players, the studio closed the subject with a verbal reprimand, and that similar behaviors previous occasions resulted in the dismissal. The case officially closed as CCP continues to rivers of ink in the forums of the game by outraged users. never never never ccp take account banned. Happy day CCP Broken english aside, there's no reason to dig this one up again. For the record, CCP did take action. Just not the action the angry mob called for at the time. t20's accounts were all banned. He was allowed to remain at CCP because you don't pass judgement on someone and then way later on fire him for the same crime. But again, what does this have to do with this thread? GòªGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGòæGûæGûæGûæGòöGòùGûæGòæGûæGòæGûæGòöGòùGûæGòªGòæGûæGòöGòùGòöGòªGòùGòöGòù GòæGûæGòöGòùGòöGòùGòöGòúGûæGòöGòùGòáGûæGûæGòáGûæGòáGòùGòáGò¥GûæGòæGòáGûæGòáGò¥GòæGòæGòæGòÜGòù Gò¬GòÉGòÜGò¥GòæGûæGòÜGò¥GûæGòÜGò¥GòæGûæGûæGòÜGò¥GòæGòæGòÜGò¥GûæGò¬GòÜGò¥GòÜGò¥GòæGûæGòæGòÜGò¥ Got Item?

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