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BEPOHNKA
The Scope Gallente Federation
74
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Posted - 2013.04.18 20:21:00 -
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Hello,
Wondering if you would like concord to hold targets down which turn red, and let the players do the killing . You dont get time to eject options will be turn off during the time you get touch by concord...  |

Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
3168
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Posted - 2013.04.18 20:23:00 -
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If theyre red, you can hold them down yourself.
CONCORD is dispenser of law, not fast tackle. Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings? |

BEPOHNKA
The Scope Gallente Federation
74
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Posted - 2013.04.18 20:26:00 -
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Just image the other way would sure make fun... shame we can't pay concord or some NPC force to hunt down people and kill them for you... concord makes a market for black book list, and you can pay concord to kill them with out them knowing it. Can be done any time or any were . |

Vincent Athena
V.I.C.E.
1759
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Posted - 2013.04.18 20:33:00 -
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I think the idea would be to switch that around; Make CONCORD be the fast tackle, and let the players dispense the law. If such a change were make, would it be good? I see other things needed. Like concord neuting, jamming, and eventually applying DPS if there are no players around to do it. http://vincentoneve.wordpress.com/ |

Solstice Project
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
3235
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Posted - 2013.04.18 20:53:00 -
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Look at the coward seeking easy kills ... |

Tank Talbot
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
8
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Posted - 2013.04.18 20:58:00 -
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BEPOHNKA wrote:Just image the other way  would sure make fun... shame we can't pay concord or some NPC force to hunt down people and kill them for you... concord makes a market for black book list, and you can pay concord to kill them with out them knowing it. Can be done any time or any were .
Why? I mean who wants to pay a dumb old NPC group powered by nothing more than an 8 bit AI to do that when you could be smart and hire REAL PLAYERS to do it for you right now... The more ISK making jobs in EVE for real players the better. |

Manny Moons
New Order Logistics CODE.
20
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Posted - 2013.04.18 21:49:00 -
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People would still laugh at you for whoring on CONCORD killmails.
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RubyPorto
SniggWaffe YOUR VOTES DON'T COUNT
3237
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Posted - 2013.04.19 02:11:00 -
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Sure. Let CONCORD only apply warp disruption but no DPS. Leave the Self-Destruct button active, but disable eject.
Sounds like a great plan. I'm sure it will have the exact effects you're looking for. This is EVE - Everybody Versus Everybody.
"the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built and we want to keep that (infact, this is much more representative of the consensus opinion within CCP)." -CCP Solomon |

dark heartt
I Own Four Sheep The Methodical Alliance
99
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Posted - 2013.04.19 02:17:00 -
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BEPOHNKA wrote:Just image the other way  would sure make fun... shame we can't pay concord or some NPC force to hunt down people and kill them for you... concord makes a market for black book list, and you can pay concord to kill them with out them knowing it. Can be done any time or any were .
No, that would be terrible and completely against the idea of emergent gameplay and the sandbox concept of Eve. If you want someone dead, go and hunt them down yourself or hire a merc corp to do it for you. We need less NPC interaction and more player interaction.
As for the Concord being tackle, that idea has some merit, as it allows players to interact more. Seem's ok, but it is unlikely to ever get implemented.
Edit: Actually I just thought of a way that people could be trolled with this system. Don't kill them. Concord holds them indefinitely. That would inspire some tears I'm sure. |

SmilingVagrant
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1559
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Posted - 2013.04.19 04:33:00 -
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RubyPorto wrote:Sure. Let CONCORD only apply warp disruption but no DPS or other EWAR. Leave the Self-Destruct button active, but disable eject.
Sounds like a great plan. I'm sure it will have the exact effects you're looking for.
It would have an effect I'm looking for. |

Octoven
Phoenix Productions Headshot Gaming
72
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Posted - 2013.04.19 08:14:00 -
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If you get a shot off before CONCORD pops them...then you can still shoot them while they are red  |

Arronicus
Shadows of Vorlon The Marmite Collective
549
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Posted - 2013.04.19 08:29:00 -
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Nice comedy thread. "I'm SO incredibly, unbelievably terrible at pvp, that I want invincible npcs to tackle, jam, scramble, and neut targets for me, so I can kill them without any hope of them shooting back at me, or running away." |

Anunzi
High House Of Shadows Tribal Band
108
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Posted - 2013.04.19 08:53:00 -
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BEPOHNKA wrote:Just image the other way  would sure make fun... shame we can't pay concord or some NPC force to hunt down people and kill them for you... concord makes a market for black book list, and you can pay concord to kill them with out them knowing it. Can be done any time or any were .
Or you could go and do it yourself... oh wait, that would be :effort:
Malcanis for CSM8, Its about damn time.
A vote for Malcanis is a vote for bacon! |

Old Fellow
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2013.04.19 11:49:00 -
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BEPOHNKA wrote:Hello, Wondering if you would like concord to hold targets down which turn red, and let the players do the killing  . You dont get time to eject options will be turn off during the time you get touch by concord... 
Sure, it would be neat if concord just permajams, webs, scrambles for a few minutes before execution, the theory behind this is they would be collecting evidence for your termination and in this time a beacon would go live and the target could be subject to mob justice |

Muad 'dib
The Imperial Fedaykin Amarrian Commandos
872
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Posted - 2013.04.19 12:21:00 -
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Vincent Athena wrote:I think the idea would be to switch that around; Make CONCORD be the fast tackle, and let the players dispense the law. If such a change were make, would it be good? I see other things needed. Like concord neuting, jamming, and eventually applying DPS if there are no players around to do it.
Concord ransoms ftw
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Cosmic signature detected. . . . |

Sergeant Acht Scultz
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
722
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Posted - 2013.04.19 14:02:00 -
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Solstice Project wrote:Look at the coward seeking easy kills ...
This story looks like the water closet mocking the toilets...
*removed inappropriate ASCII art signature* - CCP Eterne |

GreenSeed
268
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Posted - 2013.04.19 15:39:00 -
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how about this, we give concord a gun that turns the ship they shoot at into a mining barge, and forces the pilot not to ever leave it until 500km3 of ore/ice are mined as a form of punishment for their actions.
there you go, i just fixed ganking.
all we need now is for someone from CCP to ever read this forum, and for gankers not to find a way to gank miners in mining barges.
hm...
Gardes II?
could some gang of superheroes attempt that glorious kill mail? a barge killed by barges.
i dare you James, i dare you to deliver. |

Jonasan Mikio
Hateful Munitions Totally Consensual
14
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Posted - 2013.04.19 15:44:00 -
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BEPOHNKA wrote:Hello, Wondering if you would like concord to hold targets down which turn red, and let the players do the killing  . You dont get time to eject options will be turn off during the time you get touch by concord... 
I think that players should have to decide this is the kind of game they want to play.. maybe they could take missions, or "sign up" with concord to be part of the task force or something. I don't know..
Concord isn't fast tackle though! They are justice... umm depending on how you look at the word at least. |

Frostys Virpio
Lame Corp Name
385
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Posted - 2013.04.19 15:47:00 -
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RubyPorto wrote:Sure. Let CONCORD only apply warp disruption but no DPS or other EWAR. Leave the Self-Destruct button active, but disable eject.
Sounds like a great plan. I'm sure it will have the exact effects you're looking for.
If they apply no dps at all, do they appear on the kill mail? If not, we could generate some stupid kill board of exhumer/barge getting many kills with drone and pretend high sec is fighting back gankers. This would "prove" miners can fight back so no further nerf to high-sec ganking are required. I mean if a miners can defend themselves, anyone can. |

Haulie Berry
483
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Posted - 2013.04.19 15:53:00 -
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They need to bring back E-ON and do a Time Magazine style Shiptoaster of the Year. |

Zyress
Weapons of Divine Temper
135
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Posted - 2013.04.19 16:12:00 -
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Solstice Project wrote:Look at the coward seeking easy kills ...
LOL yep that pretty much describes every ganker in the game. |

Helga Drakkon
Rocky Mountain Twins
0
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Posted - 2013.04.19 16:19:00 -
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[quote=CONCORD is dispenser of law, not fast tackle.[/quote]
CONCORD is NOT a dispenser of law.... it is a dispenser of vengeance.
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Caldari Citizen 1897289768188
State War Academy Caldari State
184
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Posted - 2013.04.19 16:21:00 -
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Solstice Project wrote:Look at the coward seeking easy kills ...
OMG seriously? So blowing up defenseless freighters and miners is not cowardice?? You guys never cease to amaze with your justifications for clubbing baby seals on the beach. |

Zyress
Weapons of Divine Temper
135
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Posted - 2013.04.19 16:48:00 -
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Helga Drakkon wrote:[quote=CONCORD is dispenser of law, not fast tackle.
CONCORD is NOT a dispenser of law.... it is a dispenser of vengeance. [/quote]
Vengeance is Concord's saeth the CCP |

Loan--Wolf
Ace's And 8's
2
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Posted - 2013.04.19 20:55:00 -
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Solstice Project wrote:Look at the coward seeking easy kills ... so there wouldn't be any easy kills on your kill mail ? |

Zyress
Weapons of Divine Temper
137
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Posted - 2013.04.19 21:24:00 -
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Loan--Wolf wrote:Solstice Project wrote:Look at the coward seeking easy kills ... so there wouldn't be any easy kills on your kill mail ?
Of the 20 most recent kills on his killboard there are 3 shuttles, 8 capsules, 4 rookie ships, 1 mining frig with only a cyno fit, 1 slasher with no mods fit, 1 thrasher with a shield booster but no other tanking mods, 1 Iteron and 1 atron with no tanking mods. I'm sure he worked up a sweat killing them. |

RubyPorto
SniggWaffe YOUR VOTES DON'T COUNT
3237
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Posted - 2013.04.20 07:25:00 -
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Caldari Citizen 1897289768188 wrote:Solstice Project wrote:Look at the coward seeking easy kills ... OMG seriously? So blowing up defenseless freighters and miners is not cowardice?? You guys never cease to amaze with your justifications for clubbing baby seals on the beach.
They're not defenseless. They have access to the exact same tools to defend themselves as anyone else.
They also have (since you're bringing up a seals on the beach metaphor) a Sniper on the bluff shooting anyone who clubs a seal protecting them.
Frostys Virpio wrote:If they apply no dps at all, do they appear on the kill mail? If not, we could generate some stupid kill board of exhumer/barge getting many kills with drone and pretend high sec is fighting back gankers. This would "prove" miners can fight back so no further nerf to high-sec ganking are required. I mean if a miners can defend themselves, anyone can.
I'd imagine they'd show up for the EWAR applied. This is EVE - Everybody Versus Everybody.
"the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built and we want to keep that (infact, this is much more representative of the consensus opinion within CCP)." -CCP Solomon |

Sergeant Acht Scultz
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
724
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Posted - 2013.04.21 16:42:00 -
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Zyress wrote:Loan--Wolf wrote:Solstice Project wrote:Look at the coward seeking easy kills ... so there wouldn't be any easy kills on your kill mail ? Of the 20 most recent kills on his killboard there are 3 shuttles, 8 capsules, 4 rookie ships, 1 mining frig with only a cyno fit, 1 slasher with no mods fit, 1 thrasher with a shield booster but no other tanking mods, 1 Iteron and 1 atron with no tanking mods. I'm sure he worked up a sweat killing them.
How brave he is...
Or not.  *removed inappropriate ASCII art signature* - CCP Eterne |

Skaz
Skazmanian Industries
43
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Posted - 2013.04.21 17:51:00 -
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Tank Talbot wrote:BEPOHNKA wrote:Just image the other way  would sure make fun... shame we can't pay concord or some NPC force to hunt down people and kill them for you... concord makes a market for black book list, and you can pay concord to kill them with out them knowing it. Can be done any time or any were . Why? I mean who wants to pay a dumb old NPC group powered by nothing more than an 8 bit AI to do that when you could be smart and hire REAL PLAYERS to do it for you right now... The more ISK making jobs in EVE for real players the better.
Because real players would find a way to abuse it? You do realize this is EVE we're talking about?
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Rebecha Pucontis
Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic
168
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Posted - 2013.04.21 19:33:00 -
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What would be the point in this silly proposal? The only thing I can think off is to satisfy kill mail whores and make the killboards even more meaningless. |
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