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Call Rollard
K For Kill
35
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Posted - 2013.04.21 12:34:00 -
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I've been online just before downtime multiple times before and I have seen lots of empty belts near Jita.
Move system and check other belts more. |
Anderron Shi
1st MC Phobia.
34
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Posted - 2013.04.21 14:02:00 -
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Atroken Ahashion wrote:And going to null or low sec, LOL, why, us newbs are already getting ganked in high sec mining belts, why should i add to my frustrations, protection is not always guaranteed.
Am sorry to say, i might be looking at quitting this game, not favourable for north american market. lol 1st MC-á --á Phobia. Recruitment Officer Check out our recruitment thread at https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=215780&find=unread Join in-game channel '1stmc_pub' today! Get some! |
dark heartt
I Own Four Sheep The Methodical Alliance
121
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Posted - 2013.04.21 14:13:00 -
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I play just before downtime, and I never have trouble finding ore to mine. You must be in a popular system, so move to somewhere a further away from the trade hubs. |
Olf Barrenbur
Guardians of Asceticism
24
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Posted - 2013.04.21 15:10:00 -
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OP you must come down and mine in Teonusude or the Molden Heath region. Many good ores here. I will say hello to you in my cata. |
Gargep Farrow
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
1
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Posted - 2013.04.21 20:41:00 -
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Captain Tardbar wrote:This thread makes me smile because I know everyone that replied to this thread before now has been trolled.
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Also it seems people are continuing to be trolled.
It is possible you are correct.
The topic does bring up a bit of imbalance in the Eve Universe though. With a static downtime there will always be timezones that are at a disadvantage when it comes to getting the choice ores. Putting the Eve universe on a 25 hour clock would give us rolling downtime's and give everyone a chance at the choice ore, or just the chance to play without being forced to always have to log out during their prime play time. |
Indahmawar Fazmarai
1520
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Posted - 2013.04.21 21:47:00 -
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But, but... wasn't mining supposed to be a risk-free, no-PvP profession?
Now seriously, there's plenty of asteroids even right before downtime. Use any of the online ore maps to locate systems with 20 or more fields and at least 1 station, and go give a peek. If population is below 40, there are enough asteroids of your liking and/or there are no secure containers in the belts, it likely is a quiet system with no resident corporation and thus a good candidate to being your home system.
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Solstice Project
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
3251
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Posted - 2013.04.21 22:02:00 -
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This, actually, is hilarious !
If you see it from a different angle, then he's basically complaining about not being able to be afk in a worthwhile fashion. ^_^ |
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ISD Ezwal
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
210
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Posted - 2013.04.21 22:10:00 -
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I have removed some off topic posts.
26. Off-topic posting is prohibited.
Off-topic posting is permitted within reason, as sometimes a single comment may color or lighten the tone of discussion. However, excessive posting of off-topic remarks in an attempt to derail a thread may result in the thread being locked, or a forum warning being issued.
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Eugene Kerner
TunDraGon Drunk 'n' Disorderly
646
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Posted - 2013.04.22 05:43:00 -
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ISD Ezwal wrote:I have removed some off topic posts.
26. Off-topic posting is prohibited.
Off-topic posting is permitted within reason, as sometimes a single comment may color or lighten the tone of discussion. However, excessive posting of off-topic remarks in an attempt to derail a thread may result in the thread being locked, or a forum warning being issued.
O what a relief...first I wanted to rant around and insult the OP in the most hilarious ways....glad I did not...
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Liltha
Lost My Way Enterprises
1
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Posted - 2013.04.22 06:28:00 -
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Chokichi Ozuwara wrote:Atroken Ahashion wrote:Am sorry to say, i might be looking at quitting this game, not favourable for north american market. People with a quitter mentality will struggle to prosper in Eve. Eve is not easy. But in return for being hard, it can be very rewarding, if you're willing to push your personal boundaries. Atroken Ahashion wrote:And going to null or low sec, LOL, why, us newbs are already getting ganked in high sec mining belts, why should i add to my frustrations, protection is not always guaranteed. Protection in hisec is also not guaranteed. Concord arrives AFTER you are attacked. Look, you should find people to play with. A group. Then you should go to nullsec. And mine. And plex. And rat. And PvP. Play this game. Hiding in hisec looking for 'roids to shoot is the least imaginative way to play this game. Work with other people. Take some calculated risks. Explore the universe, most of it has already been settled for you, and in many cases, Null systems can be a lot safer than hisec.
Take his advice. Only weirdos like me stay in high sec. Much more fun to be had in low or null sec for the non-weirdo crowd and nowhere near the danger there used to be.
If you want to stay in high sec though you might want to explore a bit more, there are many many places with full belts up in the dead of night 30minutes before downtime still. Wander around a bit during your active time, see how many belts various systems have and the numbers of miners, pick a slow area and belt and mine yourself silly.
Or if you are exceptionally stubborn and resistant to either movement or change take up exploration and mine grav sites.
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Katran Luftschreck
Royal Ammatar Engineering Corps Interstellar Online Network
1431
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Posted - 2013.04.22 07:36:00 -
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The secret to winning at EvE:
#1) Open map #2) Find yourself #3) Find Jita #4) Move in opposite direction of Jita until you can't go any further #5) Live in profit, joy and happiness forever Q: Just how bad were missiles and drones nerfed?-á A: They're adding them to Amarr ships now. |
pussnheels
The Fiction Factory
1143
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Posted - 2013.04.22 08:14:00 -
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Katran Luftschreck wrote:The secret to winning at EvE:
#1) Open map #2) Find yourself #3) Find Jita #4) Move in opposite direction of Jita until you can't go any further #5) Live in profit, joy and happiness forever this there are plenty of high sec backwater constellations that have more belts than people in them further you move away from the major hubs less people you find another secret a station in system isd NOT mndatory I do not agree with what you are saying , but i will defend to the death your right to say it...... Voltaire |
Anunzi
High House Of Shadows Tribal Band
109
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Posted - 2013.04.22 08:20:00 -
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Posting in the best troll thread so far this year. 10/10, would read again.
On the off chance that the OP is serious ( I find it hard to believe anybody can be that dense however), I mine in HS on an alt sometimes when I want to make isk, but cba watching local. The system I mine in is about 10 jumps from Jita. Never once have all the belts been empty.
If you want to mine, find some backwater little system. Its not rocket surgeryGǪ
"On we fly, on wings of thunder, never more to sheath our swords" |
Frying Doom
2398
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Posted - 2013.04.22 08:27:00 -
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Dear North American Market.
You, like Europe have a large percentage of the population of EvE online, so it is rather a bonus for those in a TZ where we can barely find anyone to speak too in a corp, that we actually have something to do.
Now there are always asteroid belts in places like Metropolis that are never touched, so you just need to move further away from a trade hub. There are asteroids all over the place after down time, you just need to look.
So in wrapping up I just have to say to the North American Market is, get bent.
Yours Sincerely,
Someone who does not live in North America. Any spelling and grammatical errors are because frankly, I don't care!! |
Britta Nolen
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
1
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Posted - 2013.04.22 09:25:00 -
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Suicide gank the other miners. TAKE WHATS YOURS |
Obsidian Dagger
Nitrus Nine
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Posted - 2013.04.22 09:30:00 -
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I can find hi-sec belts with top-end high sec ore even an hour before downtime, within 2 jumps of my home system. It's not hard, just don't be ********, fit a goddamn tank, and stay aligned.
Or in other words Dear America, get off your lazy fat arse and go somewhere other than 1.0 and 0.9 |
Grund Soul
Interstellar Military Assistance Corporation SpaceMonkey's Alliance
0
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Posted - 2013.04.22 10:08:00 -
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Atroken Ahashion wrote:Hi all, Well i'm getting tired of finding asteroid fields when i get on eve at my time frame.
This is due to the fact that reboot time for eve is at 3am my time, so when i get on 6 hours later, there are no asteroid fields left in high sec to spend productive mining time on.
They are mostly depleted.
I have moved several times, going some days up to 6 jumps in a retriever to find anything cause local systems are empty, that is a waste of my real game time money.
And going to null or low sec, LOL, why, us newbs are already getting ganked in high sec mining belts, why should i add to my frustrations, protection is not always guaranteed.
Am sorry to say, i might be looking at quitting this game, not favourable for north american market.
Any ideas, suggestions or areas of amarr i have not mined in, or anyone feeling up to helping this new player out, that would be most welcome.
tyvm
Wow do you need some cheese with that whine, seriously I live in the US and I can say personally 5 minutes before downtime there is plenty of roids untouched in every part of highsec / Lowsec / Null. You sir take lazy to a whole new level. |
TheGunslinger42
All Web Investigations
1240
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Posted - 2013.04.22 14:17:00 -
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There are lots of systems in highsec that have literally dozens of belts, and from my experience (which is mostly landing in belts to annoy other players, rather than mine anything...) the belts are fine even 9-10 hours after DT.
Try moving away from the trade hubs / newb systems. |
Xercodo
Xovoni Directorate
2291
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Posted - 2013.04.22 15:53:00 -
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While I understand the mentality of "LOL, move further nub!" I can see what he's getting at.
I'm starting to see it too. Almost every 0.5 we travel to seems to have people stripping it clean daily.
CCP, can we get some sort of metrics on how many roids deplete per system and/or how many systems ever reach belt depletion? The further and further out from trade hubs miners have to go the more adverse new people will be to mining.
It's kinda sad that Veldspar is more valuable than omber right now and scordite is the most valuable ore in all of highsec.
Do we really need that much pyerite and tritanium?! Scordite has been on top for a while now, and even though it is just as abundant as veldspar the price isn't being driven down much at all by people mining it.
We need either denser roids or new refiner values if we ever wanna make low end minerals actually have low end value (per m3 of ore mined).
Also why the hell does kernite show up in Caldari and Minmatar lowsec? why not dark ochre?!
ABCs and Mercoxit can be the null sec ores. The Drake is a Lie |
Vincent Athena
V.I.C.E.
1769
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Posted - 2013.04.22 16:06:00 -
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Ive noticed this issue too. I'm far from Jita and mine in a system with no stations and over a dozen belts. Usually there is ore, but many times its been stripped clean. I have sometimes had to go to system after system, belt after belt, to finally find ore. Going 6 jumps to find ore is not just doing 6 warps. A system with 10 belts requires 10 warps to see if any belt has ore. Do that 6 times: 60 warps. In an Exhumer. A few times I had to give up; I ran out of time to be on Eve before finding a system with ore.
Several suggestions I have seen to help the situation:
Have a long range scanner that will tell you how much ore is in each belt (to speed up the search). Have roids spawn all through the day. Have mission belts persist after the mission has been turned in. Add some low end grav sites with the basic ores. http://vincentoneve.wordpress.com/ |
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Skeln Thargensen
Filthy Carebear Tax Avoidance Shell Corp
105
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Posted - 2013.04.22 18:47:00 -
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use the map statistics if you're getting frustrated. 0.5 sec status systems with low activity or no station in system are always a good bet. if the system or the system next door has a station with the best base refine efficiency (50%?) then you've hit gold, or kenite more likely. and you can most likely tap this system every time you want to mine and contract the minerals if it's really far away from a trade hub, it's really very inexpensive. freelance space bum |
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
4035
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Posted - 2013.04.22 19:15:00 -
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Optionally, you could always train up one of your alts as a suicide ganker and force the competition out.
Hey, it's a valid lifestyle choice. To carve a successful niche for yourself in EVE you need to be able to out sell, out produce, out fight,-á out run, or out wit your competitors. If you can do none of the above, your only option is to complain on the forums that somehow you are at a disadvantage using the exact same tool set-áas the rest of the player base. |
Indahmawar Fazmarai
1522
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Posted - 2013.04.22 19:16:00 -
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Xercodo wrote:While I understand the mentality of "LOL, move further nub!" I can see what he's getting at.
I'm starting to see it too. Almost every 0.5 we travel to seems to have people stripping it clean daily.
CCP, can we get some sort of metrics on how many roids deplete per system and/or how many systems ever reach belt depletion? The further and further out from trade hubs miners have to go the more adverse new people will be to mining.
It's kinda sad that Veldspar is more valuable than omber right now and scordite is the most valuable ore in all of highsec.
Do we really need that much pyerite and tritanium?! Scordite has been on top for a while now, and even though it is just as abundant as veldspar the price isn't being driven down much at all by people mining it.
We need either denser roids or new refiner values if we ever wanna make low end minerals actually have low end value (per m3 of ore mined).
Also why the hell does kernite show up in Caldari and Minmatar lowsec? why not dark ochre?!
ABCs and Mercoxit can be the null sec ores.
There is one reason why scordite holds better value, IMO: asteroids are small and thus less proficent to bot. The average scordite asteroid will waste most of any third cycle before depleting and triggering the bot to lock another one. The Greater Fool Bar-áis now open for business, 24/7. Come and have drinks and fun somewhere between RL and New Eden!-áIngame chat channel: The Greater Fool Bar |
Dyphorus
VC Academy
5
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Posted - 2013.04.22 20:14:00 -
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Considering that there is a constant amount of Ore at any given time, roids respawn in another system when depleted in one, you simply need to find them. |
Vincent Athena
V.I.C.E.
1769
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Posted - 2013.04.22 20:22:00 -
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Dyphorus wrote:Considering that there is a constant amount of Ore at any given time, roids respawn in another system when depleted in one, you simply need to find them. It does not work like that. That is the Cosmic Anomally and Cosmic Signature way of re-spawn. In the public belts roids re-spawn or grow at down time.
Oddly in the last month or so this problem has been slightly less. Last night I actually found plenty of ore with little searching. On a Sunday night (US west coast time), usually the worst possible time to get ore. http://vincentoneve.wordpress.com/ |
Thorleifer
Yeti Cave
3
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Posted - 2013.04.23 02:15:00 -
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Atroken Ahashion wrote:Hi all, Well i'm getting tired of finding asteroid fields when i get on eve at my time frame.
This is due to the fact that reboot time for eve is at 3am my time, so when i get on 6 hours later, there are no asteroid fields left in high sec to spend productive mining time on.
They are mostly depleted.
I have moved several times, going some days up to 6 jumps in a retriever to find anything cause local systems are empty, that is a waste of my real game time money.
And going to null or low sec, LOL, why, us newbs are already getting ganked in high sec mining belts, why should i add to my frustrations, protection is not always guaranteed.
Am sorry to say, i might be looking at quitting this game, not favourable for north american market.
Any ideas, suggestions or areas of amarr i have not mined in, or anyone feeling up to helping this new player out, that would be most welcome.
tyvm
I hear the goons space has tons and tons of unmined belts |
Tauranon
Weeesearch
155
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Posted - 2013.04.23 03:02:00 -
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(a) go to dotlan, click on your desired region, click on systems till you find one without a station. Congratulations you just found maxgrowth roids an hour before downtime. Bonus points for choosing a deadend that nobody goes to where you don't get ganked.
(b) mining missions
(c) do low level combat missions until you get a big belt, and then mine that - bonus points for being in a private deadspace where only combat probes can find you and enjoy your relatively gankfree existence.
(d) probe some gravs.
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Jonah Gravenstein
Khalkotauroi Defence Labs
8060
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Posted - 2013.04.23 03:19:00 -
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Tauranon wrote:(a) go to dotlan, click on your desired region, click on systems till you find one without a station. Congratulations you just found maxgrowth roids an hour before downtime. Bonus points for choosing a deadend that nobody goes to where you don't get ganked.
(b) mining missions
(c) do low level combat missions until you get a big belt, and then mine that - bonus points for being in a private deadspace where only combat probes can find you and enjoy your relatively gankfree existence.
(d) probe some gravs.
That involves effort, and thus will not happen. A war hasn't been fought this badly since Olaf the Hairy, High Chief of all the Vikings, accidentally ordered 80,000 battle helmets with the horns on the inside. |
dark heartt
I Own Four Sheep The Methodical Alliance
130
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Posted - 2013.04.23 04:30:00 -
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Xercodo wrote: Do we really need that much pyerite and tritanium?! Scordite has been on top for a while now, and even though it is just as abundant as veldspar the price isn't being driven down much at all by people mining it.
To answer that first question, yes. Yes we do. Tritanium is the basic building block of EVERYTHING and pyerite is pretty close to that too. |
Xercodo
Xovoni Directorate
2292
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Posted - 2013.04.23 04:43:00 -
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dark heartt wrote:Xercodo wrote: Do we really need that much pyerite and tritanium?! Scordite has been on top for a while now, and even though it is just as abundant as veldspar the price isn't being driven down much at all by people mining it.
To answer that first question, yes. Yes we do. Tritanium is the basic building block of EVERYTHING and pyerite is pretty close to that too.
That was partially rhetorical. Of course those are the two most needed minerals in volume, but why do they remain in such high value? They are so abundant that they should be driven into the ground in value.
The botting thing sorta makes sense....maybe. The Drake is a Lie |
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